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  • My theory on private vs. public - it's like flying in first class vs. coach. They both get you to exactly the same place in the end, but it's the tradeoff of less hassle, more comfort and extras, etc. vs. the price.

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    06.05.08, 06:10 PM [ Flag ]
    • ita

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      06.05.08, 06:11 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • >except if you count arts, music, and other extra classes private kids get, it's not exactly the same but if you mean by same place the colleges these kids will be going to, then yes.

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        06.05.08, 06:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Interesting point. I went to Princeton and a few of my public school friends had a hard time their first year. They were fine in the end, but they felt they didn't quite have it down.

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          06.05.08, 06:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I think public school kids kick @ss on math/science (and some private kids have a hard time) but in humanities, I agree.

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            06.05.08, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • as a public school product, i would agree that's a common experience at college; private works in a level of self-structuring, public doesn't instill that. so when these kids first leave home, guess which ones will thrive without the oversight of parents?

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            06.05.08, 06:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • NP: I just have to laugh at this. Personality is much more of a determining factor than private vs public in this regard.

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              06.05.08, 06:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • well i guess you can laugh in the face of our hs valedictorian who went to princeton and went back to visit former hs to talk to seniors about the critical importance of structuring their time once they enter cokkege. she really struggled with it; her parents were well educated folks too (dad hs calculus teacher with multiple degrees in humanities & science).

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                06.05.08, 06:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • My dd in public can't sleep unless she does her homework. I keep telling her to relax, it's only 3rd grade! I don't know what makes you think private school kids are better at structuring their study time -- wouldn't this be a matter of motivation and maturity? And what about all the Bronx Science kids, etc. -- can't they cut Princeton?

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              06.05.08, 06:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • It is about motivation and maturity, but it is also about how a school leads a child to develop skills. Does a school give long term projects? Are there tests on a regular basis? Are there midterms and finals? Does a child have a chance to confer with teachers about work in class they may not understand? (np)

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                06.05.08, 07:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • ^^^ the conferring with teachers happens during a weekly enrichment period, where students make appointments to see teachers and go over classroom material they may not understand (6th grade, private)

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                  06.05.08, 07:19 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • Yes. 7th grade, public.

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                    06.05.08, 08:09 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • I agree with this, especially in the younger grades. Private elementary schools spend a lot more time teaching study skills, organizational skills. The public schools don't have this luxury b/c even the great ones have to spend a lot of time of test prep in 3rd and 4th grade.

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                    06.06.08, 06:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Yes, us Bronx Science grads handled Princeton and the like quite nicely

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                06.05.08, 08:17 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • That should be "We Bronx Science grads" -- making the point about the lack of humanities in public

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                  06.06.08, 06:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • But that is you and your friends and your experiences of course. Thousands of others feel the same as you; thousands of others had the opposite experience. It's all anecdotal.

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            06.05.08, 06:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I went to Princeton after public high school and felt totally prepared. In fact, most of the people I knew sho suffered academically had gone to private school.

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            06.06.08, 07:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I liken it to working out. If you can afford a chef and private trainer, great. If you can't, then you have to more yourself, but doesn't mean you are doomed to be fat.

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      06.05.08, 06:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • makes sense

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      06.05.08, 06:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • interesting analogy.... although in that example, the flight attendants in coach would be better educated and make more money.

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      06.05.08, 06:13 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Teacher here (with private and public experience): technically, a public schol teacher has more education requirements -- but they may have gone to a crappy program.

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        06.05.08, 06:20 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • This is not true at all for many kids. There are some that will end up in the same place no matter what, but there are many that won't. You have to know your child to decide whether it would make the difference for him/her.

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      06.05.08, 06:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I disagree....there are very very few publics which have 100% attending college.

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      06.05.08, 06:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Yes, but if you are a kid who is likely to go to college, you will probably go whether you attend a public or private school.

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        06.05.08, 06:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Yes becasue those parents who spend $20k a yr for kindergarten will obviously make child go to college. Public school includes 1st generation immigrants etc - cultures that don't push college

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        06.05.08, 06:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yes but it is an advantage to be surrounded only by other kids preparing for college.

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          06.05.08, 06:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • yes & no - pushes the kids because it's more competitive, but hanging with only the same type of people with the same mindset is missing a little of an other kind of education & understanding about our town

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            06.05.08, 06:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • well you could have grad from my public HS w/a 4.0 and outstanding GPA and still not be in top 10% and not get into desired state univ. or Vanderbilt - second choice.

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            06.05.08, 06:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • This is absurd. First generation immigrants push college far more than anyone else in the same socio-economic bracket. They understand that's their ticket to better life and do everything to make it happen.

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          06.06.08, 06:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I think pretty much all of the selective NYC public HS have close to 100% going.

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        06.05.08, 06:37 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • a highly selective ... is not like a reg public...not a "coach" ticket

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          06.05.08, 07:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • (I can't reply to the above post but this is answer to "not a coach ticket"...) Are the selective NYC public HS like Premium Coach then? Business Class? Besides I would venture to say that most college-bound, middle class kids are either at a selective NYC public HS or private/parochial school. No one goes to a zoned public HS.

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          06.05.08, 08:08 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • lol. Zoned public HSs are full of kids, believe it or not. And when your dc is starting K you have no idea whether s/he will be Stuy material.

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            06.06.08, 07:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Education is not just flying to a destination. It's about what you see and learn along the way, and what you come to know and love and be passionate about.

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      06.05.08, 06:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • true but both private and public school kids receive an education - see and learn along the way

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        06.05.08, 07:15 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Depends on where you live. In New Orleans there are about 3 impossible to get into really good public schools all of the others are horrendous.

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      06.05.08, 07:12 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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