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End of Hillary tomorrow?
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06.02.08, 02:24 PM [ Flag ]
- i hope
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  06.02.08, 02:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- if she doesn't do it herself I bet a bunch of superdelegates will endorse to put obama over.
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  06.02.08, 02:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - ita
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    06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - The supers are ready to endorse, it's time to wrap this up. The primaries will be over, there is nothing else to wait for.
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    06.02.08, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - very few endorsed today...what are they waiting for????
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      06.02.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - The primaries to be over. There are two more tomorrow.
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        06.02.08, 02:30 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- hell yeah. ding dong..
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  06.02.08, 02:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- I'll be pissed if she forces herself into the VP spot
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  06.02.08, 02:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - no way to do that really
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    06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - Lots of party pressure...
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      06.02.08, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - you think so? obama should pick his own vp. i don't think an obama-clinton ticket be more "electable". it's a disaster waiting to happen
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        06.02.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Nope, but even more disastrous is Obama and Clinton in the white house. Talk about poisonous environment.
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        06.02.08, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        true, so true
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        06.02.08, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I agree that obama should decide his vp without any pressure from anybody but sometimes i think he's tooo nice and accomodating.
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        06.02.08, 02:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - I don't see how she could force her way in there, but there is a good argument for her being the VP nom.
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    06.02.08, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - No there isn't. Her rabid supporters won't vote for her as #2, and the rest will fall in line regardless.
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      06.02.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - The popular vote spread is less than 1% no matter how you slice it. Seems like it would be a lot easier for them to just come together than for Obama to have to make up that 49%.
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        06.02.08, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        My point is that some of these people won't vote for Obama no matter who is in #2 spot.
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        06.02.08, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ^^^plus I don't think Hillary wants to be a VP.
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        06.02.08, 02:33 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        i disagree...she goes back to the senate after most of the D senators supported obama?
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        06.02.08, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        She can make a play for a supreme court position, or a governor run. There are other options.
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        06.02.08, 02:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Really? I think her tone changed dramatically after the Indiana/NC primaries. Both of them actually. Like they couldn't say enough nice things about one another.
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        06.02.08, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I don't know. I think it's more of a party pressure on her not to try to tank Obama's candidancy at this point.
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        06.02.08, 02:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Except secretly visualizing his assasination
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        06.02.08, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        not so secretly even
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        06.02.08, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I think you're a scumbag for suggesting this
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        06.02.08, 09:22 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        I think a lot of Clinton supporters would be happy with a joint ticket.
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        06.02.08, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Honestly, can you see them having productive relationship in the white house? And how can he run as a candidate of change with Clinton on the ticket?
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        06.02.08, 02:38 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        A black man and a woman would be a big change for washington. I could see them running the way Bush/Cheney do (in a much smarter and less scary way) - Obama as the face, the voice, Hill as the workhorse.
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        06.02.08, 02:42 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        np: That is a pretty ugly slap at Obama, and I'm no fan of his.
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        06.02.08, 02:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
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        06.02.08, 02:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ^^^Also, Bush and Cheney are not typical Pres/VP relationship. In general VPs aren't doing much.
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        06.02.08, 02:44 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Exactly, and Hillary is not likely to do much as VP. She'd be better off with cabinet position, at least she'd be in charge of something.
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        06.02.08, 02:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        while she plots her way into the presidency...
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        06.02.08, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        They'd probably have to work together more if she did have a cabinet position!
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        06.02.08, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        She would be more manageable if she was in charge of something. VP is not in charge of anything.
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        06.02.08, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ITTTA. And totally off-putting, who wants another Bush-Cheney scenario.
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        06.02.08, 02:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Not meant to be at all. The Pres and VP don't have to be best buds.
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        06.02.08, 02:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        You basically just said Obama is incapable of being a real president, he's nothing more than a face the people like to listen to.
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        06.02.08, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        Nope, but Obama does not need Hillary's brain. Nor is he likely to delegate decisions to his VP the way GWB has to Cheney.
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        06.02.08, 02:46 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        That is not the way I meant it at all.
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        06.02.08, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        you obamites just love finding secret hidden meaning in everything, so eager to think the worst. It sucks. Everyone is always having to walk on eggshells because you make up things.
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        06.02.08, 09:24 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - No way. She'd rather be a big wig in Senate than the VP behind Michele. (She remembers how it can be with a strong smart woman in the White House. And Michele and Barrack seem to have a much healthier relationship.)
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    06.02.08, 02:47 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- i think she's trying to ruin obama's run for the presidency
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  06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - i agree. i feel bad for obama.
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    06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - oh, come one now. With Obama at the top of the Democtratic Party McCain is so going to win the election.
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      06.02.08, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - Not really. Lots of McCain dirt is yet to come out. Just watch.
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        06.02.08, 02:29 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - Not gonna happen.
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        06.02.08, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        gonna happen... can you say "Keating 5" ?
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        06.02.08, 02:45 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - trying to limit him to 1 term, definitely. definitely
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    06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - exactly!
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      06.02.08, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - np: And she accomplished that two months ago.
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    06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - I don't know. First of all, she has no money and unless she calls it quits she will not get her $25M back. Plus returning to Senate will be absolute hell for her if she takes this to the convention.
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    06.02.08, 02:28 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - right. look what happened to john kerry. shunned by the other senators
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      06.02.08, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - Different situation entirely.
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        06.02.08, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        true, but the senate is a cliquey place. you need to stay on everybody's good side.
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        06.02.08, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        yep, and losing that and not having enough seniority to lead anything makes that place a losing proposition for her. Still, she should aim for sec of state or something like that instead of VP. The two of them really can't work that closely together.
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        06.02.08, 02:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        i couldn't imagine them working in the same adminstration! but that's just my opinion
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        06.02.08, 02:43 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- I can not believe she lost... what a clown... I am so afraid of the 'Bradly' effect and that we will get 4 more years of these Rep jerks...
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  06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - If McCain wins it is the democrats fault. They need to get their act together. Dean needs to step up to the plate NOW.
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    06.02.08, 02:31 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    - np: WTF has he been?! He should have publicly put her in her place ages ago.
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      06.02.08, 02:32 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - would it have worked? she's just find another way to "make her case". honestly, she's worse than a high school student arguing for extra points on a test.
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        06.02.08, 02:34 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        But he's the party leader, his word would matter to superdelegates - you know the Republicans would have kicked Huckabee's nuts live on Fox if he had stayed in. It's like Dean's been hiding under a bed for two months, hoping Bill doesn't find him.
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        06.02.08, 02:35 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        ITTTA. But then again, the dems have never had the discipline GOP has. Many of them hate McCain with passion, and will work for him to get elected regardless.
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        06.02.08, 02:39 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        
        You are so right. And this lack of discipline, this "my way or else" is just pissing me the fuck off.
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        06.02.08, 02:40 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      - her place?
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        06.02.08, 09:25 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- Please let it end
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  06.02.08, 02:26 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
- i knew it was over when perez hilton gave up. lol
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  06.02.08, 02:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
  - ha!
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End of Hillary tomorrow?

i hope

if she doesn't do it herself I bet a bunch of superdelegates will endorse to put obama over.

ita

The supers are ready to endorse, it's time to wrap this up. The primaries will be over, there is nothing else to wait for.

very few endorsed today...what are they waiting for????

The primaries to be over. There are two more tomorrow.

hell yeah. ding dong..

I'll be pissed if she forces herself into the VP spot

no way to do that really

Lots of party pressure...

you think so? obama should pick his own vp. i don't think an obama-clinton ticket be more "electable". it's a disaster waiting to happen

Nope, but even more disastrous is Obama and Clinton in the white house. Talk about poisonous environment.

true, so true

I agree that obama should decide his vp without any pressure from anybody but sometimes i think he's tooo nice and accomodating.

I don't see how she could force her way in there, but there is a good argument for her being the VP nom.

No there isn't. Her rabid supporters won't vote for her as #2, and the rest will fall in line regardless.

The popular vote spread is less than 1% no matter how you slice it. Seems like it would be a lot easier for them to just come together than for Obama to have to make up that 49%.

My point is that some of these people won't vote for Obama no matter who is in #2 spot.

^^^plus I don't think Hillary wants to be a VP.

i disagree...she goes back to the senate after most of the D senators supported obama?

She can make a play for a supreme court position, or a governor run. There are other options.

Really? I think her tone changed dramatically after the Indiana/NC primaries. Both of them actually. Like they couldn't say enough nice things about one another.

I don't know. I think it's more of a party pressure on her not to try to tank Obama's candidancy at this point.

Except secretly visualizing his assasination

not so secretly even

I think you're a scumbag for suggesting this

I think a lot of Clinton supporters would be happy with a joint ticket.

Honestly, can you see them having productive relationship in the white house? And how can he run as a candidate of change with Clinton on the ticket?

A black man and a woman would be a big change for washington. I could see them running the way Bush/Cheney do (in a much smarter and less scary way) - Obama as the face, the voice, Hill as the workhorse.

np: That is a pretty ugly slap at Obama, and I'm no fan of his.

ita

^^^Also, Bush and Cheney are not typical Pres/VP relationship. In general VPs aren't doing much.

Exactly, and Hillary is not likely to do much as VP. She'd be better off with cabinet position, at least she'd be in charge of something.

while she plots her way into the presidency...

They'd probably have to work together more if she did have a cabinet position!

She would be more manageable if she was in charge of something. VP is not in charge of anything.

ITTTA. And totally off-putting, who wants another Bush-Cheney scenario.

Not meant to be at all. The Pres and VP don't have to be best buds.

You basically just said Obama is incapable of being a real president, he's nothing more than a face the people like to listen to.

Nope, but Obama does not need Hillary's brain. Nor is he likely to delegate decisions to his VP the way GWB has to Cheney.

That is not the way I meant it at all.

you obamites just love finding secret hidden meaning in everything, so eager to think the worst. It sucks. Everyone is always having to walk on eggshells because you make up things.

No way. She'd rather be a big wig in Senate than the VP behind Michele. (She remembers how it can be with a strong smart woman in the White House. And Michele and Barrack seem to have a much healthier relationship.)

i think she's trying to ruin obama's run for the presidency

i agree. i feel bad for obama.

oh, come one now. With Obama at the top of the Democtratic Party McCain is so going to win the election.

Not really. Lots of McCain dirt is yet to come out. Just watch.

Not gonna happen.

gonna happen... can you say "Keating 5" ?

trying to limit him to 1 term, definitely. definitely

exactly!

np: And she accomplished that two months ago.

I don't know. First of all, she has no money and unless she calls it quits she will not get her $25M back. Plus returning to Senate will be absolute hell for her if she takes this to the convention.

right. look what happened to john kerry. shunned by the other senators

Different situation entirely.

true, but the senate is a cliquey place. you need to stay on everybody's good side.

yep, and losing that and not having enough seniority to lead anything makes that place a losing proposition for her. Still, she should aim for sec of state or something like that instead of VP. The two of them really can't work that closely together.

i couldn't imagine them working in the same adminstration! but that's just my opinion

I can not believe she lost... what a clown... I am so afraid of the 'Bradly' effect and that we will get 4 more years of these Rep jerks...

If McCain wins it is the democrats fault. They need to get their act together. Dean needs to step up to the plate NOW.

np: WTF has he been?! He should have publicly put her in her place ages ago.

would it have worked? she's just find another way to "make her case". honestly, she's worse than a high school student arguing for extra points on a test.

But he's the party leader, his word would matter to superdelegates - you know the Republicans would have kicked Huckabee's nuts live on Fox if he had stayed in. It's like Dean's been hiding under a bed for two months, hoping Bill doesn't find him.

ITTTA. But then again, the dems have never had the discipline GOP has. Many of them hate McCain with passion, and will work for him to get elected regardless.

You are so right. And this lack of discipline, this "my way or else" is just pissing me the fuck off.

her place?

Please let it end

i knew it was over when perez hilton gave up. lol

ha!

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