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  • Reading posts about "profoundly" gifted DC = SN below, I think I get it now. Aspergers. Kids who are super-advanced academically but really do have special needs really do deserve tax-paid services.

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    05.03.08, 06:48 AM [ Flag ]
    • What are you talking about? What did you eat for breakfast?

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      05.03.08, 07:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • that is a different issue and you know it. The question is whether the very few profoundly gifted children need special services . I 'm not advocating that they do, but it is a different question than with a gifted child (at any level of IQ) who also has develomental or learning issues.

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      05.03.08, 07:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Does your dc have Aspergers? Aren't you the one who said yourd dc is PG because your dc was qualified for 2, and W/L at 1?

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      05.03.08, 07:24 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • No and yes.

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        05.03.08, 07:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • ^ and I guess my point is that perhaps that poster who feels her DC is "PG" and deserves more from DOE might actually have a DC that qualifies as SN. My kid just tests very well I guess, does not seem to need anything all that special to learn well.

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          05.03.08, 07:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • Maybe because your dc is not PG?

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            05.03.08, 07:57 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Labels only matter for getting services. merely trying to suggest a possible strategy for desperate moms who feel their DC are PG. I'm just lucky mine tested so well since zoned school. Trying to be sympathetic and help.

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              05.03.08, 08:06 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • ^ since our zoned school is not so good.

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                05.03.08, 08:07 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I think you're mixing up the posters in the thread. Read a bit more carefully to understand what's going on here.

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                  05.03.08, 08:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • how so?

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                    05.03.08, 08:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • Are you the one who claims your dc is a PG because he was qulaified for 2 and W/L at 1?

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                      05.03.08, 08:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • I don't claim that DC is PG, but DC did test in to the top progams FWIW. DC might be an Einstein, probably not, who knows? I'm just focused on getting best possible school placement, and that will change as DC grows.

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                        05.03.08, 09:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • It sound s like you chanhed your mind about your dc being a PG. Threashold for a PG is much higher than tesing well to be qualified for the top programs in NYC. There is no consideration for PG children in current educational sysytem even though their potential contribution to the society and the world is significant. PGs have special needs in a sense that their needs are not addressed anywhere in the current educational system. This lack of consideration for their needs creates huge problems in various forms for these PG children. No matter how bright they are, they're still children and they need to be cared for until they become self sufficient adults.

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                          05.03.08, 09:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • I never said DC was PG - who knows? I'll be grateful if your genius grows up to find a cancer cure. GL.

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                          05.03.08, 09:35 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Is your dc the only PG who doesn't have Aspergers? Or is it possible your dc is not a PG?

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          05.03.08, 07:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Dc with Aspergers clearly fall into the sn catagory. Sn has nothing to do with iq

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      05.03.08, 07:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • np- sigh. I am constantly beating that drum!

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        05.03.08, 07:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • OP: that's what I was trying to say. Some parents who feel their little ones are so smart that they need a special environment might actuallly have SN kids, and therefore might qualify for tax-funded special services to help their gifted+sn DC.

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        05.03.08, 09:47 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • If a child has disabilities, they're SN whether gifted or not. PG children's issues are very similar to the ones SN chidlren face. It does not mean PG = Aspergers.

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          05.03.08, 11:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Yes but just so we are clear these dc with Aspergers ar getting services for things like ot, social skills counseling, etc, or small classes, not usually getting acadamic enrichment paid for by the doe.

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          05.03.08, 01:27 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • This reallty isn't a joke--profoundly gifted do have special needs. But its very, very rare. I am a teacher and I have only had one pg in my career--you know it when you see it, but lots of parents think their children are pg when they are just highly intelligent/very advanced.

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      05.03.08, 12:36 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • ITA, re: the 1 you had, what was he/she like and did he/she really need special services? If so, what sort of services and why? (I have a plain old smart kid but I am curious, since so many here seem to think DC are PG).

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        05.03.08, 04:41 PM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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