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  • Most of you are hiring people here illegally or at the very bottom of our social ladder when hiring nannies and you expect them to stay with you and your family because they love your kids? If someone offers them more money and/or better hours or a commut e? Where is your common decency not to understand that? Unbelievable.

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    05.02.08, 10:16 AM [ Flag ]
    • enough

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      05.02.08, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I forgot that illegal always means unethical, immoral and untrustworthy. Silly of me.

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      05.02.08, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • stupid assumption

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      05.02.08, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Who doesn't understand that?

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      05.02.08, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • sounds like someone needs to move to Sweden.

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      05.02.08, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • I really don't understand it. Nannies are supposed to stay with a family forever until the family finally lets them go? It's a lifetime commitment? Why?

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      05.02.08, 10:17 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • there's a huge difference between my nanny answering an ad or looking for a new job and a friend/neighbor who comes to my nanny and says "what will it take for you to work for me".

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      05.02.08, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Why does it matter?

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        05.02.08, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • my nanny is allowed to look for a new job. she's not indentured to me. that being said, i would not feel comfortable going to someone else's nanny and hiring them away from her. and i certainly wouldn't want a friend doing it to me. there aren't a limited number of good nannies. if i don't like who i have, i will look for someone else. but i wouldn't hire her away from someone who is happy with her.

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          05.02.08, 10:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • ^^^and it's very similar to corporate positions i've had. employees are welcome to apply for jobs in other depts. but for a manager to come to a person in my dept and say "come work for me" is frowned upon

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            05.02.08, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • Funny, in our company most hirings happen like that. But people are also encouraged to move around every 2-3 years.

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              05.02.08, 10:32 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Normally the offer is not made unless there is some indication nanny is looking for a change.

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        05.02.08, 10:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • first of all, real poaching (which is what was being discussed before) is when the other mom approaches your nanny. secondly, if the nanny comes to a mom and says "i'm leaving my other job, can i work for you" i think it's more questionable. when it when it happened to me, i didn't hire her. if someone did, i don't think it's bad. but it's not going to work out very well most of the time.

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          05.02.08, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • So, how does a nanny change jobs, in a morally acceptable way for you?

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            05.02.08, 10:25 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • she applies for positions that are being advertised (either through print or word of mouth). and while it's not a moral issue, i'd hesitate to hire a nanny that quit on a friend or neighbor of mine.

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              05.02.08, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • The other mom approaches your nanny because she knows your nanny is not happy and is looking for a change. Happens a lot.

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            05.02.08, 10:26 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • Re: Normally the offer is not made unless there is some indication nanny is looking for a change.

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          05.02.08, 10:28 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • This just is not true. I've heard stories of neighbors knocking on doors to speak to the nanny and try to hire her away. Employer found out about it because the happy nanny rejected the offer and warned employer. Nanny poaching is unacceptable imo.

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          05.02.08, 10:30 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • That's not how it normally happens though. Usually, nanny is not so happy and is looking for a change in the poaching scenario.

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            05.02.08, 10:33 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • ita. crazy!!

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      05.02.08, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • is it ground hog day?

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      05.02.08, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Forget common decency, how about common sense?

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      05.02.08, 10:18 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I only said that because below, a person saying there was nothing wrong with nanny poaching was asked where her common decency was because, of course, its always, always about the family.

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        05.02.08, 10:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • You know, when people poach, it isn't just more $ they promise, and it's usually a dollar or 2 more. it's the empty promises they make to pull them away from another job.

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      05.02.08, 10:19 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Not really. The 'poaching' situations I know of were both where nanny was unhappy and wanted a better job. All that was promised were full time hours with decent salary.

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        05.02.08, 10:20 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • nice way to justfiy underpaying someone

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        05.02.08, 10:23 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • i've actually found the career nannies to be more loyal than the college kids who are not at the bottom of the social ladder.

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      05.02.08, 10:31 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • not too surprising. they know they'll need a good refernce for the next nanny job. students figure they can leave that behind.

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        05.02.08, 10:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Most nannies are not looking to jump unless they are not happy in the current situation.

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        05.02.08, 10:34 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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