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  • I am troubled by Rev Wright not bec I'm racist but bec of what he said. I hate being called a racist just bec I disagree w/ his theology or over the top stuff he says.

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    04.24.08, 09:49 AM [ Flag ]
    • Good thing he isn't running for President.

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      04.24.08, 09:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • Amen! He's NOT running for president, people!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        04.24.08, 09:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • But I am also troubled by Obama staying in that church for 20 yrs. Not a make or break deal but he would be better off just saying he went there bec of Chicago politics or some other reality. I don't like him calling it a black thing. It's not a black ng.

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        04.24.08, 09:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • I am troubled by your inability to acknowledge the nuances within the human condition. So, here is a solution for your: don't vote for Wright as President; don't attend that church and don't donate to their community programs.

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          04.24.08, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • i don't know any thinking person who goes to a religious service regularly and agress with 100% of what is said

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          04.24.08, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • of course not, but most people I know who go to church have changed churches if they have major differences.

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            04.24.08, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • What research have you done on the church and Wright?

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              04.24.08, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • Well, I go to church, a black church, and I know there are many wonderful black churches where pastors don't say stuff like that. I just don't appreciate how Obama "explained" Rev Wright as a black thing.

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                04.24.08, 10:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • He didn't, as a matter of fact. He said that the type of sermon is found in many black churches; politically charged sermons. That Wright's anger is the America of the past. Wright is as much a "black thing" as Falwell and Graham are a white thing.

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                  04.24.08, 10:04 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • I just don't know why he didn't go to another black church where the pastor is not over the top. I think it was bec of Chicago politics which I understand but it put a bad taste in my mouth to explain as a black thing. I also don't think Jerry Falweall a white thing. It's just a crazy thing. I think it hurts racial unity to view everything in racial lenses. I thought it was opposite of hwat he tried to accomplish in his campaign.

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                    04.24.08, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • I would rather support a man who embraces the whole picture (everything that church accomplishes for the community) than someone who nit picks the perfect "image". I am sorry, but I respect Obama for his stance on this and freedom of speech is just th

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                      04.24.08, 10:10 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                      • There are other black churches that have served the community AND promoted sanity/unity.

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                        04.24.08, 10:15 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                        • I didn't say that there weren't, did I? I still think this is not nearly as much an issue as Hillary's own actions. So, I just refuse to get riled up about this.

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                          04.24.08, 10:16 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • you know this, how?

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              04.24.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • A few thoughts- how is his stuff worse than, say, Jerry Falwell? And why is it a national issue?

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      04.24.08, 09:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I didn't say it was worse.

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        04.24.08, 09:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • okay. so why is this a national issue? People have been listening to flawed spiritual advisors for centuries.

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          04.24.08, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
          • I think he went there bec of chicago politics. He could have just been more honest in explaining it. Not make a race thing out of it. I don't like how he equated his grandma - that was a low blow.

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            04.24.08, 09:58 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • People like you scare the shit out of me

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              04.24.08, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • A low blow to whom? It sounds like you have made a decision about something that isn't supported by the truth.

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              04.24.08, 09:59 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • To drag in your grandma who is still living and expose her at her expense? It's just below the belt.

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                04.24.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • I think you missed the point. He didn't "expose her". He explained the nuance of the situation.

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                  04.24.08, 10:01 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • To say that it is a generational issue affecting both blacks and whites is below the belt? So, EVERYONE in your family is perfect? No racial stereotypes? No policially incorrect expressions? Really?

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                  04.24.08, 10:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • generational stuff is there for sure but in specific things he said and she said did not weigh equally. If he had chosen Jerry Falwell or someone who said equally ugly stuff, fine.

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                    04.24.08, 10:03 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • You missed the point. What he was saying that even the person who loves him most struggles with this issue. Falwell doesn't fit the bill.

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                      04.24.08, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • OMG, it was a perfectly relevant pt to make. Complex scenarios are not to cut and dry.

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                  04.24.08, 10:02 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • no: why do you assume he didn't talk to her about his speach first?

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                  04.24.08, 10:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
            • you really missed the point

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              04.24.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • np: Agreed

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                04.24.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
              • so did vast majority of the people, I guess.

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                04.24.08, 10:05 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                • "you...." poster- I would argue that most people who are still hung up on this Rev Wright issue would have found SOMETHING to hang their fears on without ever actually saying/confronting their prejudice. If it had not been this it would have been the flag pin or the fact that he... whatever.

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                  04.24.08, 10:08 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • np: Did you see Stewart on this? "So, the Wright thing, the flag pin, the bitter comment... let me just get to the real question and ask you, Senator Obama "are you going to enslave the white man when you get to be President?"

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                    04.24.08, 10:11 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                  • OP: flag pin is bogus. Ayers story is bogus. But I don't appreciate how Obama camp is subtly saying REv Wright thing is about latent racism. It might be true for some but there are others like me who have a hard time not bec of racism.

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                    04.24.08, 10:12 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • If you had heard Rev. King, you would have been horrified by his anti-American comments.

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                      04.24.08, 10:13 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
                    • I'm not saying nobody can get fixated on this stupid issue and have that outweigh everything else without racism... but the facts and the situation don't support the drama about this. A person with all of Obama's potential lives in Chicago and goes to inner city church. There his minister is... surprise, surprise... an fiery speaking black man who on occasion lashes out at the society which among many things in his lifetime supported the government setting dogs on peaceful marchers. (This was happening while the minister was oversees fighting for this country.) All the while, nobody says dick about McCain going after Robertson after the horrible stuff he said on national TV the day after 9-11. Then Obama speaks directly to the issue and the nay sayers make it about his outing his grandmother...?!!! And you are surprised some people doubt the motivation behind the doubters.

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                      04.24.08, 10:22 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • seriously

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        04.24.08, 09:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • thank you!!!

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        04.24.08, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • then don't go to his church and stop listening to what he has to say, you sound like he's the only one you disagree w/ in this country

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      04.24.08, 09:50 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
      • I don't but it does feel like Obama was being political and he can't just be upfront about it. I don't like how he has made it into a race thing.

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        04.24.08, 09:53 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • But it is a race thing because the media made it so. If a white guy spews sh*t, he's just a stupid guy. If a blk guy does the same, he's a stupid blk guy. Signed. wht mom

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          04.24.08, 09:55 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
        • What should he have done?

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          04.24.08, 09:56 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • IMO, you're right to disagree, but don't disagree in a vacuum. Plenty of what he says/implies has some truth. Take out the vitriol and the basis for discussion is there.

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      04.24.08, 09:52 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
    • Obama is racist scum.

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      04.24.08, 10:00 AM [ Flag | link to this post ]
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