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  • [-]Is there ANYONE on?

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    05.13.08, 12:20 AM [ Watch | Flag ]
    • me. i went to sleep an hour and a half ago and just woke up wide awake. how does your body know how long you've been sleeping anyway?

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      05.13.08, 12:33 AM [ Flag ]
      • I think that perhaps our bodies have begun siding with our keys and are revolting against us.

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        05.13.08, 12:37 AM [ Flag ]
    • me.. in HK. suffering through day 1 back at work post maternity leave. this sucks! and my pants are way too tight!

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      05.13.08, 01:01 AM [ Flag ]
      • Hey HKMom, just read your post below. I am so sorry your boss is being a prick. When are you traveling?

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        05.13.08, 01:09 AM [ Flag ]
  • [-]Its my first day back at work after 3rd maternity leave. Have 3 kids under 3, the oldest is being screened for autism and the youngest was preemie. I had food poisoning on sat pm and have an eye infection today (not pinkeye). My boss just told me he wants me t travel overseas this weekend for a conference and I am still breastfeeding. several of my accounts were given away while I was on leave. Its a shitty day. Just venting, thank you for listening.

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    05.12.08, 10:51 PM [ Watch | Flag ]
    • good lord.

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      05.12.08, 10:52 PM [ Flag ]
    • wow. i go back in a few weeks and soo not looking forward to it. sucks, doesn't it

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      05.12.08, 10:54 PM [ Flag ]
      • the first few weeks are always hard, but this one harder than most. the eye infection is the icing on the cake.

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        05.12.08, 10:57 PM [ Flag ]
        • yes, will be my second one back. i remember the first day being one of the worst in my life. but in a few weeks i guess it all gets back to "normal". GL to you!

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          05.12.08, 10:59 PM [ Flag ]
          • thank you. I just need to get through til the end of the day

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            05.12.08, 11:02 PM [ Flag ]
    • sending you good wishes - hope things are better for you soon

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      05.12.08, 10:55 PM [ Flag ]
    • Tell your boss he needs to f-off on the travel until you are done breastfeeding.

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      05.12.08, 10:55 PM [ Flag ]
      • I know.. I can deal with the pump, etc,, but DH is ALSO travelling out of teh country that week and we don't want to leave the kids just with the nanny (who lives in). BUT if I SAY that then suddenly I'm the unreliable one .. its a trading desk job, very very male. not one of my male colleagues wives works so for them, having to sort out adequate childcare is not someting they would consider. None of them thought I was coming back. Bets were made

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        05.12.08, 10:58 PM [ Flag ]
        • fuckers. can you take the baby?

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          05.12.08, 11:00 PM [ Flag ]
          • I would have to take 3 children under 3 and then leave them to tear the place apart in a hotel room with the nanny. they truly are better off at home. I just have to think abt what kind of childcare arragement I want. I've never left them overnight just with the nanny, I have always flown my parents in.. this is too short notice (we are in Hong Kong, they are in the US)

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            05.12.08, 11:04 PM [ Flag ]
            • where are you supposed to go and for how long?

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              05.12.08, 11:05 PM [ Flag ]
              • Sinagpore, just 3 nights. It would actually be fun, I just would rather wait til 1) DH is home 2) not breastfeeding 3) NOT RIGHT after I go back to work, which I think is a real shock for the 2.11 yo (I'll find out in a few hours when I go home)

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                05.12.08, 11:07 PM [ Flag ]
            • ah, that is why it is day for you! you must be frustrated that UB is so slow when you are on. I thought you should JUST take the baby, leave the older ones with the nanny. Probably impossible.

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              05.12.08, 11:07 PM [ Flag ]
              • I could do that, but would need a 2nd nanny. the baby is on bottles daytime anyway so its not a big deal pumping, but I'll never let him know that!

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                05.12.08, 11:08 PM [ Flag ]
                • I know, I thought maybe there could be a traveling au pair, maybe a service at the hotel.

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                  05.12.08, 11:10 PM [ Flag ]
        • what a bastard. screw them. think about what you are doing...2 jobs...trying to raise your kids AND work in a male oriented office. I wouldn't go.

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          05.12.08, 11:01 PM [ Flag ]
          • they're probalby counting on that, though. they're probably only asking her to go so they can force her out. Fuckers!!

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            05.12.08, 11:04 PM [ Flag ]
            • senior management loves me but I think my immediate boss would prefer to build his own team... I was here before he was brought in from another office

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              05.12.08, 11:06 PM [ Flag ]
            • Let them. they can't force her out. She is providing her child FOOD!! This country is ridiculous with mat leave compared to others. So many European countries mothers get 2-3 YEARS paid leave. Canada they get a full year PAID leave! WTF is wrong with the US? How are women supposed to bf their babies when they have to go back to work so soon after birth?

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              05.12.08, 11:08 PM [ Flag ]
              • op here.. I'm not in the US. My company is French owned and Canadian managed. I got 10 weeks.

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                05.12.08, 11:09 PM [ Flag ]
                • D'oh!

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                  05.12.08, 11:10 PM [ Flag ]
                  • not to burst your bubble but the US companies here actually give longer maternity leave AND pay for the nanny/baby to travel with mom if she must travel while breastfeeding!

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                    05.12.08, 11:11 PM [ Flag ]
                    • And where is "here".

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                      05.12.08, 11:17 PM [ Flag ]
                      • HK

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                        05.12.08, 11:21 PM [ Flag ]
                        • That's great they do that there...but here in the US...you wouldn't find that. We have one of the shortest maternity leaves in all the countries in the world. Nice to see what value the president puts in our children's futures.

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                          05.12.08, 11:28 PM [ Flag ]
                • That's horrible. You'd think if it was Canadian managed that they would be more understanding.

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                  05.12.08, 11:11 PM [ Flag ]
                  • managed by men, with no children. They are so canada proud 'In Canada, we have blah blah blah' but if they actually have PAY for it? no chance.

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                    05.12.08, 11:12 PM [ Flag ]
    • I'm sorry. That is a crummy day. Sounds like a lot to get hit w/on your first day back.

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      05.12.08, 10:56 PM [ Flag ]
    • wait, i just re-read. He wants YOU to travel overseas? What an ass.

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      05.12.08, 10:59 PM [ Flag ]
      • yup. join him at a conference in Singapore. Its a test, to see if I'm really committted to coming back. the man is such an asshole. I'm pretty close to saying no, but the reality is, if I DO want to keep all my clients, this is a great opp to see them all at once

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        05.12.08, 11:05 PM [ Flag ]
        • np: yeah, it really sounds like he's testing your resolve to keep the position

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          05.12.08, 11:08 PM [ Flag ]
        • well, you trust your nanny, right? i'm not saying it's right, but i hate to see this asshole win.

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          05.12.08, 11:08 PM [ Flag ]
          • op: thats what I'm thinking. Nanny is great. I can be in touch all day by SMS from the conference and no one will know. DH will be tere the 1st night I'm gone. we do have his sister in town in case of emergencies (she lives 90 mins away)

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            05.12.08, 11:10 PM [ Flag ]
            • you can do this. it's not ideal, but it's technically just 1 night? maybe 2 at most?

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              05.12.08, 11:20 PM [ Flag ]
    • i'm logging off but i'm sorry your first day back has been so shitty. i hope the trip goes well and i think you are a great role model to your kids.

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      05.12.08, 11:23 PM [ Flag ]
      • thanks very much. I just spoke to the nanny and oldest was FINE today, no drama at all. Clearly the 'he's so attached to me, this will be so HARD for him' was all about me!

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        05.12.08, 11:25 PM [ Flag ]
    • one more vote that thinks you should go and not give your boss the upper hand. get the nanny some extra help, if she needs it. the babies are small and won't remember. good luck to you!

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      05.13.08, 12:45 AM [ Flag ]
      • thanks very much.. thats what I am going to do. will bring in night nurse for baby .. I also can install a nannycam (wil tell them) that I can see from my Blackberry if all else fails (and I'm really crazy) but.. end of the day, I'm going. I might even have fun!

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        05.13.08, 12:56 AM [ Flag ]
  • [-]I never thought breastfeeding would be so hard for me. I am so depressed

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    05.12.08, 10:09 PM [ Watch | Flag ]
    • dont be depressed. Pump and get a LC consult. Or just use formula. Your DB will turn out fine either way as long as you love him/her.

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      05.12.08, 10:10 PM [ Flag ]
      • i know, it is so much more difficult than you would think and there is so much guilt associated with it. But, once you're through it you really never think about it again

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        05.12.08, 10:12 PM [ Flag ]
    • it is hard, yes, and the hormones don't help! Get some sleep, and get help (a great lactation specialist) and cut yourself some slack

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      05.12.08, 10:12 PM [ Flag ]
    • what's hard. maybe i can help?

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      05.12.08, 10:12 PM [ Flag ]
      • it doesnt come naturally for many women, latch problems, milk supply issues...it isnt simple and you cannot fix it via CNET

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        05.12.08, 10:14 PM [ Flag ]
        • wow, i think she was just trying to be nice. why so bitchy? -np

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          05.12.08, 10:17 PM [ Flag ]
        • Oh, good point. You really can't fix any complex issues over CNET, so let's just all log off.

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          05.12.08, 10:17 PM [ Flag ]
        • gosh. i was just trying to lend a hand. but i'm just a dumb lc, logged into ub.

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          05.12.08, 10:43 PM [ Flag ]
    • just feed the kid by whatever means...nothing to cry over

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      05.12.08, 10:13 PM [ Flag ]
    • you are not alone!!!

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      05.12.08, 10:22 PM [ Flag ]
    • DON'T pump right now. Just make sure you eat and drink lots. It gets easier. Don't listen to the people who say just use formula. They obviously never gave a crap from the beginning if they fed bm or not.

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      05.12.08, 10:43 PM [ Flag ]
    • You can do it. Breastfeeding was super hard for me - my ds was not interested at all, but would drink pumped milk out of a bottle. I ended up pumping for a year, and even though that was harder because I'd spend twice the time, it was also easier, because I could hand someone else the bottle if I was trying to get some sleep or couldn't be there to bf. GL

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      05.12.08, 11:46 PM [ Flag ]
  • [-]My rabbit is just such a weirdo. (I mean the mammal, not the vibrator.)

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    05.12.08, 11:06 PM [ Watch | Flag ]
    • i have two and they're very nice. what is strange about yours?

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      05.12.08, 11:07 PM [ Flag ]
      • he's also very nice! he's just hopping around the apartment right now, and he just stops to chew on something strange, like tape, and then for no reason hops really quickly over to somewhere else, and then gets really quiet like I"m not going to notice he's near the electrical wires... he's just kooky. And he will ONLY let me pet him in his enclosure. Right now? No way, he's Adventure Rabbit.

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        05.12.08, 11:09 PM [ Flag ]
        • lol. adventure rabbit. (np)

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          05.12.08, 11:10 PM [ Flag ]
        • he sounds cute. my female is like that about being pet only in her cage...i think she's obsessed with thinking that i'm trying to catch her and put her back in there and i've never done that.

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          05.12.08, 11:11 PM [ Flag ]
          • ^does yours feel compelled to memorize escape routes when they come out? mine have to nudge every piece of furniture and verify its location before they can flop

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            05.12.08, 11:13 PM [ Flag ]
            • ha! i don't kjnow, i'll watch for that now! I love it when he flops. THUNK. One time I woke him up by accident and he made this startled noise and i felt so bad.

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              05.12.08, 11:14 PM [ Flag ]
              • wow, i've never caught mine sleeping in 8 years

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                05.12.08, 11:25 PM [ Flag ]
          • it must just be a rabbit thing. the enclosure is their safe zone so it makes sense, it's just -- come on, rabbit! you know it's me! also, he does this thing where he does a long run and then a flying leap into his litterbox. like, across the whole enclosure. not necessary, he can get in there with just a short hop. but sometimes he just has to show off.

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            05.12.08, 11:13 PM [ Flag ]
            • oh, yeah, they're all pretending that they're on secret missions all the time. my older rabbit just wants to hang out with me, the younger one is only devoted to him

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              05.12.08, 11:24 PM [ Flag ]
    • don't they poop randomly everywhere?

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      05.12.08, 11:26 PM [ Flag ]