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[+] When I see someone driving a Range Rover, I have immediate distain for them...but oh ... 19 replies
- That is why i'm only admitting it here. For once I wish I could just splurge on whatever I felt like at the moment. A RR is like the ultimate splurge to me. Alas, i'll try to be happy with my old honda...
Talk : : September 02, 2010
When I see someone driving a Range Rover, I have immediate distain for them...but oh how I wish I drove a Range Rover!!!
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I hate cars period, but yes, I hate the gas guzzlers even more. I wouldn't say I disdain the drivers but I do assume that they're selfish.
[ Reply | More ]09.02.10, 08:05 AM Flagso if bill gates was driving a range rover you would assume he was selfish?
[ Reply | More ]09.02.10, 08:09 AM FlagOR: I already know that Bill Gates is selfish. Before he started his foundation, interviewers would often ask him why he didn't make giving more of a priority, and he always responded that he wasn't "in his philanthropy phase yet." Philanthropy = his new hobby now that he's bored wi/computers and looking to set up a loftier legacy. I'm so glad he's doing it and it's putting a lot of good into the world, but his motivations are absolutely selfish.
[ Reply | More ]09.02.10, 08:11 AM Flagso not true. He learned about giving from his mother, who was extremely generous and kind. And he is the kind of person who plans everything to a level of detail most of us would cringe at...When he talked about his "philanthropy phase" he had already planned to have a "philanthropy phase"; it wasn't a brush off at all. And I don't think he'll ever be bored with computers.
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[+] turning 40 and want to buy myself a watch - 10k or less. Suggestions? 33 replies
- huh? Look, I wear no jewejry, have a tiny engagement ring, and really want to splurge here. what's the big deal?...
- tell me: if not diamonds or a watch, what would you splurge on?...
Talk : : September 01, 2010
turning 40 and want to buy myself a watch - 10k or less. Suggestions?
33 replies [ Reply | Watch | More09.01.10, 12:13 PM Flag ]OMG, I can think of 15 other things I could do with $10,000! Nice to have that kind of cash lying around.
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Rolex Oyster, plain white face. It's a classic. I love mine, DH gave it to me for DS.
[ Reply | More ]09.01.10, 12:30 PM FlagI think it depends upon your style. I have the following: Coach, Movado, Cartier, Dior, Omega, Casio and Timex. I just like having a wardrobe of watches. Right now, I'm wearing a Timex Expedition analog cause I"m working from home and it has an easy timer function. Why not get several watches?
[ Reply | More ]09.01.10, 12:30 PM FlagI don't really like selecting jewelry out every day and would prefer to just wear one. That's just how I am.
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Watches are huge with me (as you can tell!). There is a good book out now on celebrity watches (I think that it is the title). You could just page through it at any B & N. I have my eye on a Hamilton, which is more a man's watch, but it is a real classic and so gender doesn't matter to me. I think it depends if you want to make a statement with your watch (look, I have an 8k watch!) or if you want something that only you will know the value of.
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[+] How much did you spend on your wedding? Do you regret spending that amount? 19 replies
- $600.00 for a beach wedding. My only regret is that I should have gotten a different dress. Oh and I should have splurged and paid someone to take the pics instead of letting my FIL go buck wild with his camera. Oh the pics...
Talk : : August 31, 2010
How much did you spend on your wedding? Do you regret spending that amount?
19 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.31.10, 06:33 PM Flag ]My parents paid for most of it- they spent A LOT (which they can afford), but I do regret some of it. It was REALLY beautiful and my mother wanted to do it so no real regrets, but when I think about what that money could've done, I feel badly... And in retrospect, I don't think weddings are all that important. Marriage is much more important than the wedding. But man did we have ball. I wish I could go back and be a guest at my own wedding!
[ Reply | More ]08.31.10, 07:01 PM FlagSomething like 20k, split with my parents. It was a lovely wedding in a winery with a great band and all that. But honestly, I think I had more fun at the lower key bbq we had the night before -- I left that evening thinking "if this had been my wedding, I'd be totally happy." And it was a fraction of the price.
[ Reply | More ]08.31.10, 07:38 PM Flag$600.00 for a beach wedding. My only regret is that I should have gotten a different dress. Oh and I should have splurged and paid someone to take the pics instead of letting my FIL go buck wild with his camera. Oh the pics...Oh the pics... I would tell ANY bride to be...splurge on your dress and your photographer and don't worry about the rest-as long as there's plenty of good food and alcohol no one will remember anything anyway but you will always remember bad pics and a dress you didn't like.
[ Reply | More ]08.31.10, 09:55 PM Flag$10,000 for 2 small ceremonies - one commitment ceremony in DH's home country with 50 guests, one legal ceremony in the US with 50 guests. We didn't want to enforce a destination wedding on either family, and we wanted both families to be able to attend a ceremony. Very happy with it, no regrets.
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[+] I need black flats for fall. They must be comfortable, I have a closet full of black ... 15 replies
- NP: Also in the market for black flats and thinking of splurging on Chanel. Are they amazing?!...
Talk : : August 31, 2010
I need black flats for fall. They must be comfortable, I have a closet full of black flats that kill my feet and am determined not to make the same mistake again. How are Cole Haan?
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[+] Using internet cheapie HPT strips and getting *something* of a second line right away... 14 replies
- Used the internet cheapies too. When I got what seemed like a positive result, I tested again 24 hrs later and got same thing. DH refused to trust it and wound up splurging on a "real" brand and got positive result. GL...
Talk : : August 27, 2010
Using internet cheapie HPT strips and getting *something* of a second line right away, but not sure it's pink - more like a shadow, but I don't think it's an evap, cause I usually don't see an evap til after an hr or so when it dries. Anyone BTDT??
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.27.10, 05:36 PM Flag ]7 or 8 dpo is most likely too early to get a result on those cheapie tests. Wait another day or two and try again. Even if you were to get a very faint line, I'd be really surprised if it came up immediately at that early point. For me it took a couple minutes when it was very early. When I take one now just for fun (6 weeks), the test line comes up dark even before the control line does.
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[+] Still trying to lose the baby weight (4 months postpartum) and have a wedding and my ... 9 replies
- You're going to wear leggings and a long top with nice shoes to a wedding and a hs reunion? Why not a long flowing dress that doesn't hug the hip area. Accentuate your positive features and diminish the negative. Don't worry about splurging on the shoes, though I'm not a "shoe" person so if you love them, buy them....
Talk : : August 27, 2010
Still trying to lose the baby weight (4 months postpartum) and have a wedding and my DH's hs reunion next month. I feel so unfashionable after so many months of pregnancy clothes and then stretch pants. My weight is kind of evenly distributed which helps I think. Problem area is the hips. Small bust. What do I wear? I'm 29. Leggings with something long on top? I'm thinking of splurging on the Jimmy Choo Private Cuff Patent Leather Sandal in nude.
9 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.27.10, 11:58 AM Flag ]You're going to wear leggings and a long top with nice shoes to a wedding and a hs reunion? Why not a long flowing dress that doesn't hug the hip area. Accentuate your positive features and diminish the negative. Don't worry about splurging on the shoes, though I'm not a "shoe" person so if you love them, buy them.
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 12:03 PM FlagI was thinking that for the reunion. Maybe that's a bad call. Where can I get a cute long dress? I'm only 5'3 so I've never really done long before.
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 12:08 PM FlagAt your height I'd go with just below the knee length. Any department store should have something nice. You can get away with the leggings and a nice tunic for the reunion depending on where it's being held, but definitely get a dress for the wedding. I'm assuming you're in NY so I can't give you many store recommendations as I live in NJ, but there is a place in Union, NJ called "Oh So Dressy" and they have a lot of discounted dresses that are nice. It's about 25 minutes from Manhattan. You'll know what feels right when you go and try them on.
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 12:12 PM FlagNP: what about a tank dress that hangs from the shoulders to right above the knee. i just bought a cute one - jersey w embelishments at the neckline and hem. doesn't cling anywhere so very forgiving. could be worn bare legs with cool shoes and later with tights and boots.
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 12:15 PM Flagmy neighbor is that short, or maybe shorter, and she wears long dresses and they great. i think that that's a really good suggestion because you can always have it hemmed to fit of the top around the shoulders taken in to if it's too long, but you don't have to worry about fitting at your waist or hips too much.
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 02:27 PM Flag
Don't go long... you're too short (like me). haven't seen you, but maybe you can flaunt your curves. get a good push up bra and go for the gusto -- like a Mad Men type outfit. That's what I did not too long ago, and dh's tongue was hanging out. (in a good way)
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[+] OMG someone please tell me its gonna be ok. Moving overseas next wk for DH's job. I h... 14 replies
- of advice--you're not in America. No matter how familiar things look and seem, it's not home. Go with the flow. Do things the Israeli way. Sure, sometimes you just NEED to buy some ridiculous imported American product (for me it was a splurge on real US oreos) so treat yourself but enjoy what the culture there has to offer and remember that you are a guest! IT WILL BE GREAT!!!...
Talk : : August 26, 2010
OMG someone please tell me its gonna be ok. Moving overseas next wk for DH's job. I have 20 suitcases piled up in our living room so far. House is a wreck- sorting thru what we are taking and what we r leaving. DS has a fever, I start work 10 days after we arrive and I still have not found a nanny (HOW THE **** can I find a nanny from 4,000 miles away!?!? I want to meet these women!). I need some xanax or s/t I feel like my life is imploding. Anyone ever somewhat BTDT???
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.26.10, 05:01 PM Flag ]where are you moving? have been overseas twice, maybe I can help
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Sorry, can't help you there. But I've BDTD and the weeks leading up to the move are the WORST. Once you get on the plane it will be much better. The enormity of it is all facing you now...but having done a move like this twice, I promise you that it'll be much better as soon as you get there! Good luck!
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 05:18 PM Flagthanks...I 'm just freaking about hte other end of it too. its like- my house is a wreck right now- but when we get there Im gonna have to unpack (and into what? I need to buy furniture!), find a nanny, and then all the rest of the stuff- cable and internet, buy groceries (and like-all those little things you use once a year- I dont even know what they are but I will need them-wish I had a master list of what is in my fridge), IDK what else- but all this in a foreign country... I just feel like this is the tip of the iceberg...I hope youre right...and Im wrong..
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 05:26 PM FlagI've done it twice--and neither place in an English-speaking country. Wasn't sure the first time but went back for another round years later because the experience was so great. CALM DOWN! It will be FINE! We've lived without furniture. See if you can immediately hook up with an expat network. That's a terrific way to find nannies, furniture, a second hand car, etc. If you DH has a job and they are relocating you there's got to be someone at his company who can help hook you up. Both places I've lived had relocation agencies which were of little help. Just go with a great attitude, look at this as a great adventure, and it will be fine. One other piece of advice--you're not in America. No matter how familiar things look and seem, it's not home. Go with the flow. Do things the Israeli way. Sure, sometimes you just NEED to buy some ridiculous imported American product (for me it was a splurge on real US oreos) so treat yourself but enjoy what the culture there has to offer and remember that you are a guest! IT WILL BE GREAT!!!
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 05:32 PM Flag
A lot of Israeli nannies post on the bulletin boards at the JCC. Maybe call one or two and see if they have sisters/cousins back home who'd be interested.
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haha thanks for attempting to freak me out even more. we actually have gas masks. but a vest wont protect you from a bus blowing up. not taking buses, might do a better job protecting you. We will have two cars and we intend to use them, not the bus system. ;)
[ Reply | More ]08.27.10, 04:37 AM Flag
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fyi - i have not lived in israel but you shuold look into other nannies as well - my current nanny (and i live in HK) lived in Israel for 8 years and did a stint as caretaker for an elderly woman until she passed away at 95!!! and then was a live-in nanny fpr 4 years for a family of 3 kids - she wanted to move back to asia and ended up moving to HK - she was obviously legally in israel
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 07:09 PM Flagthanks- I know there is a huge network of asian nannies in israel-problem is IDK how to "break in" to it from NY-I wish I could have something tentatively set up for when we arrive, but I guess when I get there, in the midst of getting set up, buying furniture, taking care of e/t, I will have to interview ppl (WHO!!???) and find someone good...
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[+] Ok, bought tickets for Thanksgiving week to go to Paris for our anniversay. DC stayi... 14 replies
- What do you consider a splurge? Very top-end restaurants or do you have a price limit in mind?...
- op: I'm not sure what price range would be considered splurge in Paris. Since we're basically not spending money on tickets and hotel, we were...around and trying to eat some really yummy food. Obviously not every meal will be a splurge, we just want one really great beautiful meal....
Talk : : August 26, 2010
Ok, bought tickets for Thanksgiving week to go to Paris for our anniversay. DC staying at home with grandparents. Any recommendations for a great restaurant. Willing to splurge as we have the tickets and hotel using points. Thanks in advance!
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.26.10, 10:35 AM Flag ]pick 1 of the michelin 3* restaurants in the city...you can't go wrong that way
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 10:43 AM Flagop: I'm not sure what price range would be considered splurge in Paris. Since we're basically not spending money on tickets and hotel, we were going to say that the sky is the limit! :) I don't know, just curious to see any great suggestions out there. We're planning on just wandering around and trying to eat some really yummy food. Obviously not every meal will be a splurge, we just want one really great beautiful meal.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 11:13 AM FlagWe had a wonderful dinner at The Ritz. The dining room is beautiful and the tasting menu was fantastic. Highly recommend the cheese board. Also, there is a fantastic restaurant on the other side of the river sort of near the gardens that fills up very quickly on reservations. More modern decor. Can't recall name right now. Will check and get back. In the meantime really suggest the Ritz even if just for drinks. The bar at Hotel Costes is a scene too. Worth checking out just for people watching.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 11:53 AM FlagOR from above, ex-Parisian. Budget is important, because depending on the place, you're looking at about 400-500 Euros per person all in for some of the places I'm about to suggest. (And yes, you want the tasting menu and wine. Go hungry, and not before 8pm!) Great food & romantic: Le Maurice. Veggie haute cuisine: L'Arpege. A bit touristy but killer views: Le Jules Verne (Ducasse). Ask to be seated facing north or east, and go just before sunset to see the city as it lights up. Those are my top of the top picks. If you want great food at lower price points/locations/ambiances, just ask, I've got tons more recommendations!
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 01:05 PM Flag^^ Le MEurice. Typing too fast for my own good today, apparently!
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 01:07 PM FlagOP: Le meurice looks amazing. I think I will email them for a a reservation. Yes, I guess I'm willing to pay $1000 or more for a really perfect 3 star experience. You never know when you'll get a chance to go back, right? Thank you! Will also check out L'arpege, maybe for a lunch experience?
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 06:53 PM Flag
NP: I live in Paris. L'Arpege has a great reputation, although I've never been there. The Jules Verne is the Eiffel Tower restaurant - I went there once and it was fun. I don't think the food was super memorable but it was certainly way more than decent and the overall experience was cool. Um ... maybe l'Atelier de Joel Robuchon? Sorry, we don't go to fancy restaurants that much, and when we do, they usually aren't French.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 02:35 PM Flag
Okay, this place is not "fancy" but it is very Parisian (many locals) with great food. Chez Janou: 2, rue Roger-Verlomme, 75003 phone: 01-42-72-28-41. Enjoy yourselves.
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[+] Fashion moms: I'm a WOHM and wear flats every day. Need new black flats - usually bu... 19 replies
Talk : : August 26, 2010
Fashion moms: I'm a WOHM and wear flats every day. Need new black flats - usually buy $200-$300 priced shoes...but I'm wondering if I should splurge on a more expensive flat, in a classic style, that will last "forever." Worth it or not?
19 replies [ Reply | Watch | MoreI splured on Lanvin ballet flats and I have to say, they KILL my feet.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 08:51 AM FlagPrice and quality are no longer correlated once you get above $100 IMO. Do what you want, but I don't think a more expensive shoe will be any better than $200-300 shoes you now buy. I used to spend lots on shoes, but as I get older and my feet get worse, I find myself buying more and more Aerosoles and Naturalizers. Guess I am getting stodgy.
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I like french sole ny, wearing them now, under $200 and so comfy.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 09:06 AM FlagI got cute Marc Jacobs ones at Barneys for around 300 ; I work at fashion mag too
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[+] what do you want for your birthday? 5 replies
- but I'm planning to splurge on a pair of pricey black flats (either Lanvin or Chanel) this fall. Also lusting after a Hermes enamel bracelet (and I might treat myself anyway!) and would like a new winter coat (can wait until sales in Dec./Jan.)....
Talk : : August 26, 2010
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My birthday isn't until May...but I'm planning to splurge on a pair of pricey black flats (either Lanvin or Chanel) this fall. Also lusting after a Hermes enamel bracelet (and I might treat myself anyway!) and would like a new winter coat (can wait until sales in Dec./Jan.).
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[+] Saw an older post about Fall Fashion... I'm a fashion mom (writer and editor). Here's... 83 replies
Talk : : August 25, 2010
Saw an older post about Fall Fashion... I'm a fashion mom (writer and editor). Here's my response: this is so not the site to ask about fashion. none of you people have a clue. top splurges this season SHOULD include: leopard flats, simple camel outwear pieces, pointy toed pumps (go with nude, Stella if you can), lady-like satchels, capes of all kinds. and i suggest that if you really want to buy a pair of over-the-knee boots, you buy a good pair - otherwise you run the risk of looking cheap. Oh, and women over the age of 40 should certainly not be running around in them.
83 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.25.10, 06:34 PM Flag ]Where can I get leopard-print flats for under $300? J.Crew is too "clunky", I don't want Tory Burch, and I haven't really looked anywhere else.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:36 PM FlagIf this isn't a site to ask about fashion, then it's also not a site to post about fashion. Go away with your mean post.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:36 PM Flaghahahahahaha - that's like a dare...we're going to see over the knee boots on every "39 yr old" in town...they do cover wrinkled knees, you know..
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:36 PM FlagWhat kind of shoes would you wear with straight leg jeans for a night out? And what kind of bag?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:37 PM FlagI love a great pair of pumps with straight leg jeans. Especially patent or satin ones - the mix or luxe materials and denim is brilliant! Throw on a well-fitted blazer with narrow arms and you're good to go! And for a night out, I love an oversized clutch. Go with a leopard (such a trend right now) or perhaps one with an amazing abstract print. And if you aren't in a position to buy a new clutch, spruce up your old one with a brooch (or a cluster of them!).
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:43 PM FlagPointy toe or round? I know that blazers are in - but I feel like they make me look very busty. What about a long cardi?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:48 PM Flagpointy-toe all the way this season. and everyone can wear a blazer and rock it. find one that generally fits you and take it to a tailor that can work with you to make it look stellar. want a more expensive look? have the arms slimmed down. ;)
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:52 PM FlagGuess I need to go shopping - any shoe suggestions? I'm not that into blazers, but I'll try (and I think I might actually have one from a 100 years ago, when blazers were last in).
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:57 PM Flagwell, shoes are fun this season because we have a return to the kitten heel as we as the pointy-toe (which helps elongate the leg). what are you looking for specifically?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:04 PM FlagA "go-to" heel that does double-duty (jeans, dresses, etc.). Can be sort of pricey, but I wear flats every day (to work), so I don't want to spend a fortune (b/c the reality is that I won't wear them all the time).
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:12 PM FlagI'd say a great black patent pump if you don't have one already. Or a good nude pointed toe d'orsay pump with a kitten heel if you want something more comfortable. Oh, and if you buy a 1/2 size too big and insert a foot petal at the ball of the foot they'll be a shoe you'll love to wear for many reasons.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:18 PM FlagThanks. I like heels, I usually don't have a problem wearing them - it's just that I don't get much of a chance! Will be on the look-out. Are you thinking of any specific shoes?
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Well, i'm not going to try posting links again for fear of being thrown off, but look into these for killer black options: Stella McCartney Morgana patent pointed slingbacks (really love these), Yves Saint Laurent Tribute patent-leather pumps (if you want height and a platform), Rupert Sanderson Seville patent-leather pumps.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:06 PM Flag
Can't stand flats because I have high arches, heels are actually pretty comfortable for me. I am getting leopard print heels instead of flats. Buying a camel hair coat, so I'm covered. Already own pointy-toed nude pumps. And, I just bought a black, cashmere cape. Still thinking of the Valentino OTK boots, the ones with the bow, yea or nay?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:43 PM FlagAnd as someone who is in fashion, you would know that the truly fashionable are not slaves to trends. But thanks anyway!
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:46 PM FlagWha kind of jeans should I be buying? Don't want tight, skinny jeans. I'm 31, 5'4" with short legs, okay body - but carry a lot of my weight in my legs.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:46 PM Flagwell, it sounds like the most flattering ones would be a straight-cut. you'll want the jean to go straight down from wherever you are largest. and think about alterations as well - you can always have the seat and waist adjusted on any of them. also, avoid jeans with whiskers or fading at the thighs - a darker denim with a slight texture to them will probably serve you best. anyhoo - try a bunch on and don't get discouraged ;)
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:00 PM Flag
All the items you named are in the September issue of all the fashion magazines.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:00 PM FlagHey "fashion mom," I didn't realize Tiger Beat was still in circulation. Glad to hear you are still employed, well, if you can consider a "fashion writer/editor" as someone with a real job. Wait! I just wrote about fashion and other people just read it! I'm a fashion writer too. Awesome.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:06 PM FlagHow does one wear leopard print and not look like they are from Long Island? Impossible.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:19 PM FlagHey guys, my friend/roomate is fashion mom on this post and for whatever reason she has been suspended by the urban baby's moderator. We aren't sure why.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:32 PM FlagFashion mom has a roommate- doesn't sound like a mom at all. I'm confused!
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:41 PM FlagFashion Mom here - I do have a roommate and a 5 year old. And his father is active and I have a boyfriend. And I work in fashion. People have all different kinds of lives - all different kinds of lives. Is everyone here married, have 2.5 children and live in perfect little white houses? I'm guessing not.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:54 PM Flag
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I am totally lost on OTK boots. What color? Flats or stilettos? Can you provide some links?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:36 PM FlagIs there any way to stretch a pair of flats 1/2 a size up? I stupidly bought these gorgeous flats that are uncomfortably 1/2 a size too small. Have had them professionally stretched already, to no avail...
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HIGHLY recommend them. i bought a pair of OTKs last season and wouldn't wear them until I had rubber soles put on them and the leather treated. I've also had destroyed booties and pumps returned to me looking practically brand new. They are really the best in the city.
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Will you help me decide between the following OTK boots? Thanks! Option 1: http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574492818305&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446375134&R=885427237273&P_name=Tory+Burch&sid=12AAC3E41C1A&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395222441&bmUID=iGHi81a Option 2: http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574492714969&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446365269&R=3606346812658&P_name=Dior&sid=12AAC3E41C1A&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395222441&bmUID=iGHi859 Option 3: http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574492704865&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446364684&R=885019862180&P_name=Ralph+Lauren&sid=12AAC3E41C1A&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395222441&bmUID=iGHiFAc
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:05 PM FlagI agree, the Ralph Lauren ones are the best of these options. Don't want to go for a heel?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:08 PM FlagI thought that you weren't supposed to go with a heel when you did OTK boots? 26yo mom here and I'd like to not look like a "working" girl.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:10 PM Flagit's all in the way you wear them. pair them with a short skirt and red lipstick and you'll say 'working girl' - but try them with a belted, extra long chunky cardigan, mod-styled dresses, simple sheaths, and definitely with skinny jeans (I actually wear them with longer (tight) denim shorts which makes it comfortable and not too bukly). the key is not to dress them up too much. definitely play with layers with them.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:19 PM Flag
[+] are you into clothes? i always find it strange when i hear a woman say that she's no... 30 replies
- we stay in, it's just a bed for sleeping, right? as a family, we've even stayed in hostels. it's all about the experience/destination for us. my eight year old Dansko maryjanes are still going strong. if i had the $$$ to splurge on something, it would probably be a Nikon D90....
Talk : : August 25, 2010
are you into clothes? i always find it strange when i hear a woman say that she's not into shopping or clothes.
30 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.25.10, 06:22 PM Flag ]I'm not! I hate shopping. It sucks because I never have any new good clothes, but I find shopping so miserable that I just don't do it a lot.
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I watched a lot of Italian films from the 1960s when I was a child, so when I dress, I want to put on something that is evocative of an image that I have seen in those films. For this reason, I am drawn towards Prada, Miu Miu, Dolce & Gabbana and Ports 1961 because they remain true to this silhouette every season, yet update the look with interesting prints so that I look fresh and not kitsch. I do buy non-designer, but it's hard to find a properly fitted pencil skirt with the right amount of snug and length (not skanky) sex appeal. So, when I read that lady-like dressing and minimalism is seeing a resurgence, I think great! I can buy clothes again! Shoes, with these hideous platforms, have been especially tragic these past few years.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:39 PM FlagI'm not into clothes. I'm not a "stuff" person. I'd rather spend money (when I have it) on travel. I want to look nice, but I don't have the money to do both, and I'd rather have interesting experiences.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:55 PM FlagInteresting...I'm a "stuff" person (although I do love to travel, but even then, I'm a hotel snob). I've extended my buying to the house - I figure if I'm going to be a homebody, my house might as well look nice (and I found that I like shopping for home decor just as much as I like shopping for clothes!). I'm one of those women who likes to be put-together all the time.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:00 PM Flagyou are me. we travel whenever we can. i'm still wearing clothes i bought in 2000, or earlier. could care less about the hotels we stay in, it's just a bed for sleeping, right? as a family, we've even stayed in hostels. it's all about the experience/destination for us. my eight year old Dansko maryjanes are still going strong. if i had the $$$ to splurge on something, it would probably be a Nikon D90.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:09 PM Flag
SO not into clothes. i wear jeans from Old Navy and cheap polos and cardigans from Walmart.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:10 PM FlagHate shopping but have very definite taste in clothes and like nice clothes. So much of what's out there is terrible quality. I would like to have a uniform of awesome clothes that I can wear every day, and buy many multiples of, so I never have to think about it again.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:21 PM FlagWe live on a pretty tight budget so shopping is not an activity in my life in any real way. I have some very old clothes that still look nice so I wear them, I don't care when they were made if they look nice on me then I'll keep them around. I love to hit the consignment shops for fun, inexpensive things to spice up my usual wardrobe. I get a lot of compliments, so while I in no way am a lover of "fashion" I think I pull off a decent look quite a bit of the time.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:27 PM FlagI actually love fashion. It's an art. I also sew. That's an art too BUT it has made me very critical of ready to wear. I don't like sloppy seams and poorly made items. I have a pear shape and I am a plus size. There is simply not alot out there in terms of attractive, well made garments. Like many plus sized women, we simply don't buy. It's not that we don't care about fashion or don't like to spend on ourselves, it's that the clothing plain out sucks. I hate Lane Bryant, especially since it was bought by Charming Shoppes-its looks like hickwear. I miss when the Limited corp owned the brand. Real clothes were made then. In terms of the brands found in higher end stores, Marina Rinaldi for example--its all hit and miss--nothing that you can count on season after season. I love basics, using accessories to punch up an outfit. Surprisingly enough the hardest thing to find as a plus size are consistent well made basics. It took me forever to find a decent classic white shirt. In terms of sewing up my own clothes...its difficult to sew for yourself unless you have a uniform shape that's an easy fit.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 11:42 PM FlagNo. Hate shopping, especially shoe shopping (I'm a size 11 so shoe shopping sucks) My mom loves shopping and took me on all day BORING shopping trips where I had to follow her around as she slowly shopped. I always had to beg for a lunch break cause she'd get so tunnel vision and barely even talk to me. So I think that made me hate shopping. I'm a very fast shopper. I'm in and out the store. My dh loves it.
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 06:29 PM Flag
[+] How much money do you spend a year on just you: haircut, facials, clothes, gym member... 82 replies
- Just did the math on myself- about $8,500 a year- I get cut and color at high end salon but do everything else beauty-wise low maintenance. I splurge on maybe 3-5 designer things a year- the rest is inexpensive and eclectic stuff from thrift stores and lower end retail- This also includes fancy gym....
Talk : : August 25, 2010
How much money do you spend a year on just you: haircut, facials, clothes, gym membership, et al.? DH and I are trying to reconfigure our budget and determining what is fair for each of us to spend.
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That's very little. How do you manage to spend so little? Not chastising, not interested.
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It's a tough economy and we need to save money rather than spend it so the budget is really tight. I do a lot of things myself. I don't color my hair so a cut is only $150 but I extend it every 8-12 weeks. I get pedis in the summer but do my own nails. I don't buy a ton a clothes. It can be done.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 12:23 PM Flag
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Eyebrow threading ($180), pedicure ($300), microdermabrasion/peels ($800), eyelash extensions ($900), face washes ($540), hair cuts ($600), hair products ($420), makeup ($200), teeth whitening ($1000) = $4140. I must add that I did all over, including Brazilian, laser hair removal and I don't highlight or color my hair. I also wear very little makeup.
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Wow-you must be GOD-AWFUL ugly left in your natural state. Omg, you're probably a yeti! Thank goodness for modern beauty eh, it allowed you to finally leave the circus and strike out on your own. lol.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:10 PM FlaggedNo, I probably look like you. The difference is that I have the money to take myself from ordinary to extraordinary, which is why I married wealthy and have a glamorous job, while you sit away spewing vitriol at anonymous strangers on the internet.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:26 PM FlagIts not vitriol,ordinary to extraordinary. My skin is flawless, I've always been told by strangers that I was beautiful and I don't need the extensive work that you do: microdermabrasion/face peels, whitening, yada yada yada. In terms of marrying wealthy-how the hell is that an accomplishment? Lady, we live in a post 1950s society, a woman's greatest claim to fame should no longer be marrying "wealthy". LOL-are you serious? In terms of your "glamorous job", if it was that wonderful you would derive some of your self esteem from that and not need to mention your "wealthy" marriage. There's so much wrong w/ your response that it's enlightening.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:58 PM Flagnp: So I don't understand. You are just spewing vitriol. You told this woman that she was god-awful ugly, then you told her how beautiful you are and how you don't need cosmetic help? I guess you just like to laugh at those who are less fortunate than you? Bizarre.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 03:01 PM FlagUh, I do derive satisfaction from my job, that's why I mentioned it. I also derive satisfaction from my marriage, which is why it's mentioned as well. You can derive satisfaction from two sources, it is possible, lol!
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[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 12:35 PM Flag
I went from spending $50k approx. before having kids to getting no mani-pedis, emergency clothes at TJ Maxx (on sale/junior section) and my hair was so bad last month that I left the house with my hair wet and asked the hairdresser across the street to trim the split ends for $15. Ugh. Oh, make up went from $30 mascara to 2 yr old Maybelline (and crossing my fingers so it doesn’t dry up any time soon). To answer OP’s original question, probably $200 per year.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 12:58 PM FlagI LOOOOOVE THIS THREAD...it helps me realize how hideous other women are naturally. The sad thing is for the high spenders on here--in RL, you probably look just average, not even stunning. Y'know people look at paintings and old photos from past centuries and they often make comments that the women were so plain/unattractive, even the ones who were supposed to be great beauties...they are all of you w/o the microdermabrasion & teeth whitening & peels & waxings, etc...I want the apocalypse to come just so I can see how ugly some of you broads become when you revert back to what your mama gave you.
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Oh come on, she's being harsh but she has a point. I'm the OR right above her and I will admit that it's kind of liberating to be "natural" - I do it because I'm not interested in all that other stuff, not because I have some noble character trait. But my face is the same when I wake up in the morning, when I'm at work, wherever.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:26 PM FlagOR- No, I sound factual. The truth hurts. Do not try to stifle the truth of my words by criticizing their delivery, believe me I intended for it to come out that way. I majored in English, I am a creative writer. I know all about tone but I believe there needs to be a wee bit of reality on this board and especially in this thread. Someone spends 45k in one year on clothing for themselves? That's NEVER okay. I don't care if she NEVER again buys another article of cloth, let alone an actual garment. Another poster listed her mile long beauty regimen as though it was completely normal to need that much work. It's too much, way too much...and it's sad.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:37 PM FlaggedNP: I agree that it is never okay to spend 45K on your appearance and clothes. It's ethically bankrupt.
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NP: From the knowledge that there are children starving to death right now.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:51 PM FlagAnd how much money do you think Oprah spent on clothes and hair/makeup people last year? Doesn't she do a lot of good for the world?
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:55 PM FlagWhen you have billions of dollars AND contribute 10% of that to charitable contributions, most noteworthy of which (but certainly not all) a school for underpriviledged children, then 45k on clothes is in no way an issue. However I BET miss 45k here did NOT spend anywhere close to that in charitable contributions, let alone above and beyond that.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 05:03 PM Flag
by that standard just about every american is ethically bankrupt...and while i somewhat agree w/ your thought, don't forget that her $45K helps support the (not rich) manicurist, hair stylist and helps employ people at coach, prada, sack's, etc...if people don't spend, jobs go away
[ Reply | More ]08.26.10, 12:06 PM Flag
LOLOLOL!!! Yet I'll bet you looooooove Michelle Obama--and 45k is a fraction of what she spends.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 04:45 PM FlaggedShe is the First Lady of the U.S., plus most of the items that she wears have been gifted to her. Use another example(though I know this was an obvious attempt at another UB potshot at the Obamas). Hey! Let's talk about how much Laura Bush spent on those hideously frumpy Oscar De La Renta suits she loved so much. Even better, how much Barbara Bush spent on those getups she wore...what about Nancy Reagan and those tacky red gowns,didn't she renovate parts of the white house to include a beauty parlor and a gym? And what about her personal astrologer?
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Actually, I'm gorgeous without the extras, but I like to treat myself to some pampering. Sounds like you just want another reason to hate people with money.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:24 PM Flagditto! i spend money on massages, hair, pedicures, but i also sew clothes and don't need makeup. not sure where this poster decided we all have bleached teeth and dermabrasion- don't need that either. i look good naturally, and i spend money to feel good, too.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:35 PM Flag
Fortunately for us, we won't have to wait for the apocalypse to see your ugliness. You're putting it out on full display.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:28 PM FlaggedI beg to differ, I wouldn't call them ugly because they take issue with the incredible consumption listed for something as ephemeral as personal beauty or in truth, an incredible amount of consumption in order to measure up to society's false standard of beauty...the emperor has no clothes on, someone simply pointed that out.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:44 PM Flag
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haircut not much honestly- 100 bucks 4x/yr? facials- 600 per year. clothes- 10k. no gym membership- NYSC was a waste of my time, I never went. Schwinn bike that I ride down the west side hwy- $200 one time investment (helmet + 40. basket +20). mani/pedi = 400 per year? massages maybe once or twice a month down in the no frills chinatown places (40-50 dollars/hr)= 1000 per year. total: approx 13,000
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:55 PM Flag$5K if you aren't a high end clothing person. Otherwise, easily $10K
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 02:57 PM FlagEasily $20K if you're doing designer clothing. A Burberry winter coat will easily cost $2K, plus some designer shoes at $700 a pair, maybe a dress at $2K. Spend $5K per season and it's pretty easy. BTDT.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 03:06 PM Flagyup. my estimate for e/t minus my clothes (and shoes!) was about 2,500 to 3000. add in shoes at 300 (on sale) to 600 per pair, a pair of boots (800) every other season, a new coat every 5-6 years ($1-2K), day to day wear (5k at least) plus the occasional new black dress, evening type/wedding gown....I dont even want to add up the #.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 03:58 PM Flag
Wow - I'm floored at how small these responses are. I spend about $2K on gym membership alone! (Equinox). Add in personal trainer, hair cut & color, mani/pedis, waxing and you've got another $5K, add in clothes & shoes and that's easily another $5K if not more.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 04:43 PM Flaghmm just did a rough est of $7k maintenance (hair cut and color/nails/waxing/gym/massages) - clothing budget is very random - i live abroad so really only shop for clothes 2x a year when i am in the US for certain things i need or might like -the down side of that is - i cant comparison shop for a long time - i hit a few stores and if they have something i need or like and they have my size - i buy it regardless of the cost (if i am lucky - on sale) so clothing can be 5k? 10k? depending on what i find/need and the price
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:15 PM FlagJust did the math on myself- about $8,500 a year- I get cut and color at high end salon but do everything else beauty-wise low maintenance. I splurge on maybe 3-5 designer things a year- the rest is inexpensive and eclectic stuff from thrift stores and lower end retail- This also includes fancy gym.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 07:45 PM Flaghaircuts: get two a year at $50 a pop; never had a facial in my life; spent $150 on shoes this year; maybe $100 on clothes? bought one t-shirt & one sweatshirt this year, and I think $60 worth of clothes at a consignment shop in Feb; no gym membership. And a new purse, $90. Don't wear makeup. So that brings me to about $450 for "just me" appearance. Which is more than I thought it would be! Occasionally (maybe once every three years) I will spend $500 here or there on new glasses/contacts, or a lovely piece of clothing. I have some nice clothes that I have bought over the years and when I want to dress up they do just fine; also am fortunate to have a low maintenance body, skin, etc. I could probably do with a bit of toning in the tummy (used to do just fine with 15m of ab exercises daily on the living room carpet) and a haircut, but I feel I'm attractive enough now... wonder what I would look like if I spent $20K/year on myself!
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 08:52 PM FlagI spend around $3000 per year for Hair/gym/clothes/shoes ($5000 in NY money)
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[+] Due soon with #2. Gained about 30 pounds. Took 1 year to get off all the weight after... 8 replies
- this is good for maintaining, for losing it's more like 90% of the time. I would recommend WW online, it's actually the best diet I've ever done, because it doesn't feel like a diet. I splurge once a week big, but have ltitle thigns here and there that I like. have done SBD in the past, but just tired of eliminating entire food groups....
Talk : : August 24, 2010
Due soon with #2. Gained about 30 pounds. Took 1 year to get off all the weight after DC 1 and don't want to take so long this time. What's best -- WW, Jillian Michaels, boot camp, pilates? Hope to have it all off by 6 months so I don't have to buy new work clothes.
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this is good for maintaining, for losing it's more like 90% of the time. I would recommend WW online, it's actually the best diet I've ever done, because it doesn't feel like a diet. I splurge once a week big, but have ltitle thigns here and there that I like. have done SBD in the past, but just tired of eliminating entire food groups.
[ Reply | More ]08.24.10, 09:07 AM Flag
I didn't feel back to my natural self hormone-wise until 1 year after childbirth and that is also when I was back to my original weight. Just ate normally and walked, seemed like the body took care of itself. Heavy exercise only makes me more muscular and more hungry so I didn't do any of that.
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[+] How many calories in this daily diet? I am trying to do no more than 1200 a day. BFAS... 15 replies
- would be the right number of calories for them to lose weight. up to 2 pounds a week is considered healthy weight loss. That is a 1000 calorie deficit per day. If you are 5'1", 160 pounds, 50 yo, and not that active, I seriously doubt you're burning 2000 calories a day, let alone 2200. Not to mention a lot of people when dieting aim for a low per day calorie count but then maybe splurge once a week on a big meal, averaging out the calories closer to 1300-1400....
Talk : : August 23, 2010
How many calories in this daily diet? I am trying to do no more than 1200 a day. BFAST: 2 pieces of 8 grain bread, 2 eggs over easy, coffee + a little cream and sugar LUNCH: tuna salad sandwich on 8 grain bread + lettuce and tomato DINNER: either pan fried tilapia or chicken breast with a little olive oil + green veggies (brocolli, spinach, etc). LOTS of water. 2 cups green tea. FWIW, I am quite full on this diet, I just want to know if it is too many calories. TIA
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That sounds like it's around 1200 calories. You should count your snacks, too. Because you do snack. I know you do.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 11:17 AM Flagif you find it is too many calories, you might be shocked to see how many you can cut out and still be full by cutting down on the bread. it has made a big difference for me!
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 11:20 AM Flag-
i think you can get full without it... give it a try. i would remake your meals this way: bfast: 2 eggs, coffee, and a banana. lunch: tuna salad on top of lettuce, with tomato and some other veggies. dinner sounds great. you could even try cutting down from 2 pieces to 1 if you want to keep the bread in there.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 11:37 AM Flag
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1200 calories and you're talking about cutting more? Average calorie consumption of Jewish people in the Lodz ghetto in Poland during ww2 was only around 800 and that was acknowledged as starvation by the Nazis(it was their intent). What the heck is wrong with you? Dag, I am SICK of all of the anorexics on here coming in and acting as though its normal.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 12:05 PM Flagsome people are overweight, not that tall, and not that active. And maybe kind of old. 1200 would be the right number of calories for them to lose weight. up to 2 pounds a week is considered healthy weight loss. That is a 1000 calorie deficit per day. If you are 5'1", 160 pounds, 50 yo, and not that active, I seriously doubt you're burning 2000 calories a day, let alone 2200. Not to mention a lot of people when dieting aim for a low per day calorie count but then maybe splurge once a week on a big meal, averaging out the calories closer to 1300-1400.
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[+] what will be your top fashion splurge this fall? 58 replies
- I need a good pair of tall boots. Don't know that it'll be a splurge but that's what I need...
- this is so not the site to ask about fashion. none of you people have a clue. top splurges this season SHOULD include: leopard flats, simple camel outwear pieces, pointy toed pumps (go with nude, Stella if you can), lady-like satchels,...
Talk : : August 23, 2010
what will be your top fashion splurge this fall?
58 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.23.10, 09:51 AM Flag ]unfortunately suits, need to up the professional quotient as I look for a new job. any recs? Would like to spend $300-$500 max.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 09:58 AM FlagIf you don't have suits now I'd go to J Crew or Banana and get a black suit jacket with matching pants and skirt. It will give you the most versitility for your budget, wearing the pants and jacket, skirt and jacket, pants with sweater, skirt with sweater, etc.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 10:34 AM Flagmeant to say $300-500 per suit. I was pregnant twice and post partum in the last 3 years (babies 18 months apart) and finally back to a normal size with youngest 9 months old. was even heavy before getting pg with 1 because of fertility treatments. Seriosuly haven't bought a new suit since 2005. Not crazy about banana but I am planning on trying something from J crew. was there this weekend; their vanity sizing has gotten totally out of hand.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 11:39 AM Flag
I bought a marc jacobs dress on gilt and shouldn't have bc I don't have much money but I don't think it will go out of style. I don't buy trendy things
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 10:08 AM FlagI need a good pair of tall boots. Don't know that it'll be a splurge but that's what I need...
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 10:30 AM FlagI already got mine - got the 9 west sitcom, over the knee boots in grey suede. They were so affordable and I really like them. Hoping I can find wardrobe basics to go with them as I hope for them to be my almost-every-day-boots.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 10:57 AM Flag
wool coat from Burberry, black Christian dior dress, Christian Louboutin leopard print pumps, Chanel boots.
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No, Manhattan born and raised. And you? Seem a little insecure and jealous if I were to guess.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 03:25 PM FlagNo, just surprised. Fashion-conscious NYers rarely talk about labels, but rather focus on styles. The label-obsession is common among Midwesterners. But, that's just a generalization, of course.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 03:56 PM FlagYes, it's funny that you can generalizations considering how diverse this city is, makes me think that you don't actually live here.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 03:57 PM Flagnp: It's the vitriol aimed at identifying the non-native NYers that make me think that these types of responders are NYC transplants who want to forget their Ohio origins.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 04:03 PM FlagI made the generalization, and I'm third generation NYer, born and raised. I just never see too much obsession with designer labels among my peers in the city, just designer styles. The label name dropping usually comes from tourists or transplants.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 04:33 PM Flaguh, where do you live? Are you not aware of Fifth Ave? What about Madison? Did you know we have these HUGE department stores that only carry designer brands? There's one called Barney's, then there's Bergdorf, oh, and then there's Saks. But you are right. NY women are not into designer labels at all! It's not like we happen to live in a fashion capital.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 09:11 PM FlagYes, but it's one thing to wear high end brands, and another to talk about them. Fashionable NYers (in my experience) don't typically brag about the name brands in their wardrobe.
[ Reply | More ]08.25.10, 06:35 PM Flaglol, this wasn't unsolicited bragging. The post called for people to write their fashion splurges. She wrote her list of items that she was buying. What seems to be the issue is that you were offended by the money that it was going to cost to procure these goods.
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Not sure how much it'll help as two of the pieces are vintage, but I'll do my best!
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Uhm. You are paying somebody money for a good... so, ah, it will help the consumer economy, seeing how a transaction between a seller and consumer will take place.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 04:34 PM FlagActually, sweetheart, when you are buying a used good you are not adding to the GDP. Goods that were produced and sold within a cycle are what contributes to economic growth and buying vintage goods - that were already produced and paid for during a separate economic cycle - do not contribute to the GDP. So no, she's not really helping the economy in real terms.
[ Reply | More ]08.23.10, 09:00 PM FlagIDA. She may not be contributing to the GDP but the shop gets money that it splits between the expenses and sales people and the owner. Those people in turn use that money to buy something and so on and so on. That helps the economy.
[ Reply | More ]08.24.10, 06:09 AM FlagOR: No, it's actually doing nothing to help the growth of the REAL economy. If we had an economy that was solely supported on the basis of reselling used goods, we would NEVER experience economic growth. In other words, the value of the dollar that is derived from the purchase of a used good is worth far less than the dollar that is spent on a new good. Yes, the owner of the used clothing store may have more money, but it's doing nothing for the economy as a whole in real terms, which in turn, is doing nothing for the store owner in the long term. This is why I made the comment above. If I wanted to help the economy, I would purchase new goods that were produced during the current year - not goods that are a holdover from last year's inventory or were purchased in another decade.
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this is so not the site to ask about fashion. none of you people have a clue. top splurges this season SHOULD include: leopard flats, simple camel outwear pieces, pointy toed pumps (go with nude, Stella if you can), lady-like satchels, capes of all kinds. and i suggest that if you really want to buy a pair of OTK boots, you buy a good pair - otherwise you run the risk of looking cheap. Oh, and women over the age of 40 should certainly not be running around in them.
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[+] Thinking about going dairy and gluten free. Anyone else have successful weight loss ... 14 replies
- months straight and cut out all sugar including fake sugar. Felt amazing after withdrawal from sugar (terrible headaches). I have since modified and cheat all the time and have wine 2-3/week. I try not to eat carbs for dinner. If I'm going to splurge I do it at lunch or breakfast....
Talk : : August 17, 2010
Thinking about going dairy and gluten free. Anyone else have successful weight loss this way?
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.17.10, 12:30 PM Flag ]Ugh. When I was breastfeeding my dd was very colicky and after talking it over with the doctor I first cut out dairy, then everything that even had a bit of dairy (casein is basically in everything). Then I cut out wheat products, it was awful. So yes, I lost a ton of weight but in my case it wasn't my goal...
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:36 PM FlagI did this a while ago thinking I would lose weight. Didn't . When I cut out alcohol and sugar and carbs I lost a ton.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:38 PM FlagI think you've posted this before. Can you elaborate? What exactly did you cut out? And did you also reduce portions? Will you never drink another glass of wine again? (Sorry for the hijack!)
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:40 PM FlagI ate Fage 0% OR egg whites with 1 piece of ww toast for breakfast, salad with protein (6 ounces) for lunch, and 6 oz of protein (not lamb or veal or shellfish) for dinner with veggies and salad. Didn't drink for 2 months straight and cut out all sugar including fake sugar. Felt amazing after withdrawal from sugar (terrible headaches). I have since modified and cheat all the time and have wine 2-3/week. I try not to eat carbs for dinner. If I'm going to splurge I do it at lunch or breakfast.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:54 PM FlagPS I should add that above diet is not meant to be eaten forever, but if you did it for a couple months you would lose. I went hardcore to a nutritionist and lost 11 lbs in the first month, all fat. Oh and I was working out too. It was hard but I learned that I really didn't have to eat much to be satisfied if it was good clean food.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:55 PM Flag
[+] I just had a DB and my brother & SIL sent us a gift card ($600) for diapers.com. That... 99 replies
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Talk : : August 17, 2010
I just had a DB and my brother & SIL sent us a gift card ($600) for diapers.com. That's great and lovely of them, but I thought it was a bit of an unpractical gift. Anyhow, I recently heard from a mutual friend that my SIL hosted her friend's bridal shower (lunch at expensive restaurant) and bought them a pink Bugaboo. I just feel like this is a huge slap in the face to me, when I've bought their DCs birthday and holiday gifts for years. I know it's petty, but I feel hurt.
99 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.17.10, 09:53 AM Flag ]$600 for diapers is infinitely more practical that a Bugaboo.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 09:54 AM Flagi would WAY rather have money for diapers. count your blessings, at least they are a very caring aunt & uncle to your DB.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 09:57 AM Flagit is petty. Get over it and be appreciative. A pink bugaboo? Who the hell cares.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 09:57 AM FlagI understand, but it's clear that it's not a personal gift. It's basically cash in an envelope. I think it was great of them, but she didn't take the time to do something great for me and that sucks.
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You don't think it's odd that she chose to throw an elaborate baby shower for a friend and give them a $1000 gift? That's insane for a friend. Yet, when it comes to family, she just sends me a gift card?
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:04 AM FlagMaybe her DF is a b*tch who your SIL knew would freak if she didn't do something lavish. Sounds like your SIL made a mistake in assuming that you would be gracious and appreciative of a more modest gift. (More modest than a pink Bugaboo, but still very generous. I'd love someone to give me $600 for diapers!)
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:44 PM Flag
np: entitled much? maybe they felt that you could use the cash and weren't as sure if you'd want an equally expensive gift. maybe the other friend had specifically told her that she wanted that. Were you registered?
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:03 AM FlagYes, we had a registry at Babies r Us and we've already received plenty of diapers. I have boxes in my nursery right now, so this giftcard is kind of useless. And, I'm not poor, nor are my brother and SIL rich, so I'm surprised that they would do something so elaborate.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:06 AM Flagif you'd bothered to LOOK at diapers.com, you would discover that the name is deceptive. they are an online retailer of all things baby. prices are very good. and if you are a 1st time mom, then let me tell you, there is no such thing as too many diapers! your kid will be wearing them for 2-3 years and longer at night most likely. even after the newborn stage of 10-12/day, you will eventually shift to 6/day on average. and then there's pull-ups, swim diapers, etc.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:16 AM Flagare you kidding me??? you think that gift is useless? do you have any idea how many diapers and other things you will need to buy once the baby comes. I spend a few hundred dollars at diapers.com a month. It is the best website ever. if you don't want this gift, I'll take it.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:17 AM FlagDiapers.com has it all-it's just the name. Is the gc for diapers ONLY? You sound pety here, esp as you'e mentioned you lack cash flow and bro&sil aren't flush. btw-she isn't your sibling and it's likely she has a friend that is as a sister to her. Get over yourself-hope it's just hormonal...
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I actually think it's more personal -- you're not going to give a huge gift of that $ value to someone you don't know well. She may not have known what kind of stroller you wanted, etc. And honestly, if it was her friend's shower, she probably does feel closer to her friendm who she knows well, than her husband's sister. I certainly wouldn't be offended by that. Are you closer to your friends than to her? Get over it -- there will be far greater insults as a parent and there's no point in being an offense collector. You'll need your energy for other things.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:05 AM FlagYes, you are being petty! Maybe you have a reputation for being picky so SIL was afraid to choose out a more personal gift. Also, why do you blame your SIL, not your brother? Maybe he helped pick the gift. You know what gets my goat? It's how people blame the wife for the social sins of the husband. Why didn't your brother or your female blood relatives throw you a shower, get you a pink stroller, etc.?
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:11 AM FlagIt might be that the OP feels closer to her SIL or something like that.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:12 AM FlagWe are not close, we've spoken a handful of times, but this is the sort of thing that your SIL is supposed to do for you.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:17 AM FlagWow! Is that chip on your shoulder really heavy? It must be hard to be you. No one is 'supposed' to do anything, nor owes you anything. Your received a very generous gift, one many of us would have been thrilled with. Maybe she didn't buy you anything material because she was worried you'd take offense at her color choice. Or maybe she's just shallow and/or doesn't care about you. So what - is your self-worth tied to what she does for you?
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:21 AM FlagSIL is not "supposed" to do anything for you other than be polite at family functions. Anything more than that is a gift or an indication of your relationship with your brother. Very few people actually like their SILs (I've got 4 and I only like two of them - and I don't give anything different to the kids of those I like vs those I don't).
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:33 AM Flag
Because my family is socially and fashionable inept. SIL knows what's fashionable and is into making things looks great. She could have thrown me a great party instead of the chinet version my mother threw.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:15 AM Flagok you had me for awhile, but this has to be fake based on this response.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:21 AM FlagWhat I mean is that I am from a working class background, my SIL is aware of this. She has kind of "cleaned" my brother up, so to speak, so it's pretty crappy that she wouldn't take this opportunity to do something nice for me. Instead, she just sent me a gift card. That sucks.
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You don't know all the details. She's an interior designer, she knows how to make things look great. Everything she does; her DCs birthdays, dinner parties, ect. are always intimate and very chic. She never turns down the opportunity to be a hostess which is why I am surprised that she didn't take the opportunity to host my shower.
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I can imagine this conversation at your brother's house... SIL: I know what, let's get her this gorgeous stroller! Brother: That looks ridiculous. Let's get her something she really needs. SIL: Is anybody throwing her a shower? Brother: Mom's doing it and says she doesn't need any help.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:21 AM Flag
What?! OP I will not jump down your throat about this, BUT look at it this way. You can somewhat survive without a stroller. What do you think people did before strollers were invented? You can just go find one in a junkyard or whatever (lol I'm joking, don't do that). But in the end i bet you will DEFINITELY appreciate the diapers more. It seems like a practical gift. Plus that's probably her bff. You may be the sister-in-law but you won't come before her best friend. Maybe their just the kind of friends that splurge for each other?
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:31 AM FlagI kid you not -- neither of my SILs threw either a wedding or baby shower for me. My husband had to force me to invite them to my "friends" shower (family shower was out of town). I received a joint gift from them: lunch baggies, disposable toddler cups, a stacking toy and a ROLL OF PAPER TOWEL? WTF? Who takes the time to wrap a roll of paper towel. This is after I threw SIL#1 a baby shower (w/o help from anyone) and spent about $150 at PBK for her gift alone. I'd LOVE it if someone gave me a $600 gift card. I've bought car seats on diapers.com You'll find a lot on there. Be thankful!!
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 10:43 AM FlagYou win: Best fake post of the day or the Most Petty - your pick.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 11:30 AM Flag$600 is a great gift. Don't you need diapers? $600 is just enough from the beginning to the toilet training time. Its a great gift! ps: Diapers.com sells 7th Generation unbleached diapers in all sizes. Use those.
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this is a fantastic and generous gift... also, in terms of family dynamic, maybe your brother delegated the gift picking to her and since you say you have only met a few times, she didn't know what to get you. diapers.com has everything and free shipping, so she probably thought this way you could pick your own big ticket item to buy or use it on supplies.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:45 PM FlagOk, I am going to say it. i would be pissed too! If no one threw me a baby shower and I heard that my SIL threw a great one for someone else, I'd be pretty jealous. I would also be jealous of people who get amazing $1000 gifts! So, I get where you are coming from, but you should tone it down a bit. You are not coming off so great.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:51 PM Flag
You're hormonal. That was a very nice gift they gave you. Send them a huge thank you for being so kind and practical. Go buy your own stroller so you can get the one you want. (Buying a stroller for someone seems odd to me. Moms like to choose their own strollers for their dbs.)
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 12:57 PM FlagI am a SIL and while I don't dislike my SIL, I don't feel close to her, and in fact, if we weren't related we wouldn't be friends. When I have to gift her or her family with something, I always chose something neutral. We have totally different tastes, she tends to be fairly critical and I don't want to hear through the family grapevine that she didn't like the color, cut, price range. Women get stuck with gift giving whether it is their friends, relatives through DH, even office gifts. Your SIL probably chose a neutral gift so you could chose exactly what you wanted, your brother told her just to "handle it". I'd be thrilled with a $600 gift card. I'd much rather have that that another piece of primary colored plastic sh*t with batteries.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 01:38 PM FlagI think it comes down to your feeling that she doesn't care about you because she sees you as not as "classy" as her friends. I think the reality is that she isn't close to you and she's afraid of overstepping or doing something to offend you. Perhaps a first step is for you to try to become closer to her. Once you go from being just SIL to SIL who is also a friend, you may find that you and she will have a better relationship.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 05:41 PM FlagIt is impersonal. It's generous and lovely, but definitely impersonal. I can understand why you're uncomfortable - but if you can find it in your heart to see (really SEE) the "generous and lovely" side of the equation, you'll take a first step towards a better relationship with her, I bet.
[ Reply | More ]08.17.10, 07:20 PM FlagFYI Diapers.com has a TON of stuff (lotions, soaps, dishes, breastfeeding supplies, etc) -- it is a great site, pretty much they gave you the equivalent of $600 at the amazon.com for new parents. It has everything. It's a GREAT gift and very nice and you can have fun shopping at your leisure. I am hoping your post is fake but in case it is nice, pls know what a great gift you got and try to be grateful!
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[+] NYC Moms: Why do you like living in the city? Is it worth it to have all the politi... 158 replies
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Talk : : August 13, 2010
NYC Moms: Why do you like living in the city? Is it worth it to have all the politics/stress regarding education? I live in a great suburb only 18 miles from the city with great schools. It's all a no brainer and i just wonder why anyone would want to go through all that? i'm not being critical, just wondering what you love about the city.
158 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.13.10, 07:22 AM Flag ]I'm born and raised in Manhattan. Wouldn't have it any other way for my dcs. I've tried the burbs when I was single and hated it. Not for me. Living in the city is great..it's stressful if you buy into the stress and politics of school admissions. My dcs are in private school but I had a very relaxed attitude about things. They would go where they're meant to go. I have no desire to push them to go IVY. I want to raise happy kids who love to learn. So far they love school. That's all I want
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:26 AM FlagLove it. Absolutely worth all the trouble. The culture, diversity, people, museums, opportunities, events, and access you have to amazing people and experiences in NYC is second to none. The school thing isn't as bad as people make it out to be. It's just part of life. And when you get right down to it, what elementary and high school you go to doesn't really mean much. What matters is kids' intelligence, work ethic, and attitude about school. And where they go to college.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:27 AM FlagI've wondered the same thing. Expecting my first. DH dragged me to NYC for his job (we used to live in a much better city, IMO) and I'm puzzled whenever people tell me how great and convenient NYC is for raising kids. Everything seems like a giant hassle to me.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:28 AM FlagI grew up in Brooklyn and then when I was an adult I left NYC for a better city (IMO, and I realize that I am in the minority on this board). Just leaving the apartment meant that I would have to fight for space (on the sidewalk, on the subway, on the road, in the bodega) and spend a ton of money and have everything, as you say, be a hassle. I left before I had a kid, and I can't imagine raising a child in NYC. But hey, more power to you UB moms if you enjoy it.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:05 AM Flag
Living in NYC has it's challenges, but if DH and I both had to commute in to NYC every day we wouldn't see DD.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:29 AM FlagOP This is true. Also, my brother and sister both went to Public schools on Long Island and both went to IVY League schools (as did my brother in law). Are kids at the good private NYC schools really more likely to go IVY than suburban Public school kids?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:35 AM Flagonly because they are mostly legacies. I think if your dc is not a legacy it is actually harder for them to get in
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:38 AM FlagMy brother in law went to yale, my sister went to Columbia....my nephew got into both on his own merit (suburban public school) he declined both and went to a different school (Amherst). I'm sorry all this legacy BS, buying things for the school to get the kids in, I admire my nephew for doing it on his own. I understand doing everything you can to help your kids but what kind of adults are they going to be if they are tutored to get into gifted programs, tutored throughout school to get into better schools and in some cases even bought in? It gives me the willies.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:47 AM Flag
np; do you think all NYC parents send their kids to privates just for IVY? No we don't and this is not the reason why many of us choose to be in NY or to send to privates
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:59 AM Flag
We're expecting our first DB in Manhattan and after living in the burbs for years, I'm so excited to be here. Yes, there are hassles, for sure, but they're far outweighed by the joys of living in NYC: being able to walk everywhere, not have to sit in rush-hour traffic for 2+ hours a day etc etc
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:43 AM FlagNothing is perfect everything is a trade off. where do you live and what is the commute to manhattan?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:51 AM FlagI am not stressed about educated. Raised here, attended public schools here, went to Ivy, DCs will do the same (well, obviously I don't know about the last part).
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:55 AM Flagbecause suburbs are awfully boring, no matter how close to the city.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:58 AM FlagOP: Boring how? Once kid is home from school he has his pick of beautiful fields to go to to play any sport he wishes. Affordable pools, classes, libraries you can walk to. And it's quiet. He sees deer, birds right outside his window. He has a tree house. Why does he need to hear ambulances and sirens and worry about being hit by bike messengers? How exciting does it have to be for a kid? We go in to the city all the time anyway. Only pain is parking but even that isn't so bad. He also loves the train.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:01 AM FlagSee? People are different. Looking at deer is boring to me. (NP_
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:09 AM Flagnnp: I live in the city and on the 16th. My kids hear nothing from outside (thanks to double pain windows). We have a private pool in our builing, private park, city parks across the street, lots of other kids, a library down the block (a real block not a suburban block that's like a mile away), we walk everywhere (but also have a car), birds are always coming to our terrace...kids have everything the burb kids have except that we don't have to travel in our car everywhere..we can walk
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:16 AM FlagWait until your DC is a teenager. Watching deer in the backyard will send him out of his mind. He will not be old enough to drive to his friends house and when the sun goes down at 4:30 or it's a driving rainstorm, he will need to be driven everywhere. At least in a city, he could take a bus to his friend's house and you don't have to play chauffeur all day long.
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Be realistic. You aren't sending a 15 y/o out on a bicycle in the middle of the winter, when it's freezing cold outside, the sun is down and drivers can't see him and aren't even looking. You aren't sending him out on a bicycle when it's pouring rain and the roads are slick. Some of the places he will want to go will not have a safe place for him to secure a bicycle or he will lock it to something and the lock will be cut. It's easy to say "he can ride his bike" in August, when the sun is up until 8pm and it's warm outside. It's not so easy to say that between October and April.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 01:18 PM FlagSo he can take a cab for almost the same price as a bus. It's really not a big deal, i grew up in the burbs and it was never a problem. A little weather makes kids heartier anyway.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 02:48 PM FlagIt wasn't a problem because your parents drove you around - mine certainly did. Cabs may be relatively inexpensive, but in most towns, where they still exist, the waits are an hour or more, just to get across town. A cab from the train station to my parent's house (LI) is $5, but you have to wait at least 45 minutes for a shared ride.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 03:01 PM Flag
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I feel fortunate and very lucky to be able to live in the city, though I with it was not so expensive. Tomatoes are expensive, school is expensive, transportation is expensive..I could go on forever. It is all expensive except for clothing, which I can’t buy because by the time we pay for necessities, there is no money left to splurge on a new dress on super sale. Where else can you call for a car in the morning, have groceries delivered, laundry and dry cleaning picked up, all sorts of dinner options also delivered…
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:00 AM FlagThere are pros and cons to each. The school politics is only stressful if you want get caught up in it. It is nice to have the choices that NYC offers. I spend a lot of time in the suburbs and grew up there. I prefer NYC now because it is so much more convenient and has so much more to offer without the headaches of home ownership. I would rather live in NYC and visit the suburbs, but some like to do it the other way around. To each his own. I am the product of suburbia and I went to an Ivy. My Dad is the product of the NYC public schools and went to an Ivy. I really don't see suburb vs. city having anything to do with that because you can find good and bad educations in both places.
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Ditto. I don't know anyone in the suburbs who doesn't have to use their car at least once a day. I would hate that.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:04 AM FlagOP Do you hate driving on open roads with easy parking? Or hate driving in the city. I love having my car, the back is like a supply cabinet for my kids. Always have what we need with us and we never have to face the weather for more than a moment. I'm not competing just debating!
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:06 AM FlagOR: I hate driving. Doesn't matter if it's open road or driving in the city. I despise getting into the car to go run an errand. Look, I know you say you're not arguing but the fact of the matter is, different people like different things. I like the city, you like the 'burbs and we'll never convince each other who is right.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:11 AM Flagnp: Ita with you on the driving. I hate when we take our kids to the burbs..every little thing buckling and unbuckling 3 kids from car seats is a PITA
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:13 AM FlagBut how do you get your kids around? Is it really easier than that?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:23 AM Flagnp: Everything I need is within a few blocks, or I can just hop on the subway or bus to get to it. When I live in the suburbs a few months each year, I have to get into the car at least 6 times per day just for little things including dropping kids off and picking them up. Very annoying. I would rather walk 10 min than drive 10 min any day. There are other things I like about the burbs, but driving is not one of them.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:01 AM Flag
I hate driving period. I don't like the isolation (everyone in his own little box moving around on his own) and I don't like the environmental impact. The suburbs are set up so that you have to drive everywhere - bad for your carbon footprint. When I hear "easy parking" I think parking lots, which make me think of strip malls, which make my skin crawl.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:16 AM FlagI don't mind driving sometimes in the city or in the burbs. What I hate is having to drive EVERYWHERE every day all the time, from parking lot to parking lot, getting in and out of the car over and over again.
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ditto and I don't have a license. A native NYer no need to drive
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:10 AM FlagI'm also a native but love my license. We all know it's important to be able to leave and also great to come home to NYC.Travel is very broadening-and that includes the rest of the incredible state of NY and surrounding environs. As for the idea that one place is better than another for raising kids, avoiding crowding, stress and other issues, I honestly believe it boils down to what's best for individual families. While we enjoy all of our city, our kids prefer it when we get back uptown at the end of the day(UUWS).When we ask them why, they say they like it more where there are more trees,sky, birds, flowers, raccoons,possums, skunks and coyotes. They love their school(not way uptown)and all the stuff but wish for a yard and more freedom.It's what works best for the entire family and NOT just the kids or adults.Miserable parents make for unhappy kids.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:22 AM Flagyou don't need a license to travel. I'm 42 and have moved around (our of state) and traveled extensively without a license :) We have a car but my dh drives. I hate it with a passion..I would be one of those annoying female drivers that are horrible at driving but still do it. I won't lie, I have no business on the road. I tried it and don't like it
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sorry SOMEONE is licensed, so the Native NYer no need to drive YOURSELF but you have a car AND a driver. I respect anyone who knows that their strengths don't lay in driving skills. Now if more cabbies and bus drivers would share that realization, our streets would be much safer places!
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 11:18 AM Flag
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I went to stay with my parents (in CT suburbs) recently and I was shellshocked by all the driving. I think growing up I just didn't notice it, but every time we wanted to go anywhere, we had to get in the car. It was awful. I wonder what will happen to the suburbs whenever we run out of oil. If they'll become wastelands.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:30 AM FlagITA. I think when I was a kid, I just didn't notice because I wasn't the one who had to do the driving. Now, I can't stand it. And, I find it more stressful to sit in a traffic jam than to have to wait for a delayed subway or bus....because you don't have to pay attention and can sit and read.
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OP Here. I think I live in a different kind of suburb than you guys envision. I live close to the village and some days don't use the car. So maybe this is useless debate. I agree that many suburbs would just be miserable for me too. But where I live is good for us and I'll bet a lot of you might like it. It's also very diverse.
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OP: I've lived in the city, I lived there for 18 years. Just not with a kid and I think i did hate it in the end anyway (noise and lack of nature). That's why i'm wondering if it's all worth it. I'm learning a lot actually.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:37 AM Flagwhat nature does the city lack that you have? A deer (like the lady posted above)? I have lots of trees around me, lots of squirrels, city gardens that the kids could go help plant, ect. Not sure what nature is lacking
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:39 AM FlagOP: At the end, before I moved (not here elsewhere) I felt i couldn't see the sky. In my typical work day i didn't see trees. I started to get depressed and learned i just do better with open spaces. We have our own garden, veggie garden, DS has a trampoline, treehouse, all we see when we look out our windows are trees. I just do better here.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:49 AM Flagand that's what you needed to do..move to a place that's good for your family. The city is for me, I'm a total city girl and I can't take the solitude of the burbs. I like the constant vibe of the city, the atmosphere, the culture, the craziness. We have to be where we will be happiest. Not every place is for every family. Glad you found your ideal place!
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:52 AM FlagThanks. Believe me there are things I HATE here too: storm damage, home owners insurance crap, things breaking every week, loads of cleaning. Sot it's not ideal in every way. Fresh Direct has helped though, a little city for me. I do gravitate to a lot of city stuff as well: Citibabes, BeYoga, stuff i used to do there I enjoy more here.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:58 AM FlagThen why are you so confused that some people would chose to live in the city?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:09 AM FlagOP why are you so confused that i would need to have a little think about this to come to this conclusion? I've been swayed a bit i guess. I also think you need more money than we have to enjoy the city and we can get away with a lot more for free here but again i might be wrong!
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:12 AM Flag-
Are there actual sidewalks for you to walk on from your house to the village? If so then it sounds nice.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:44 AM Flag
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I like living in the city because of the cultural events (museums, concerts, etc), the cultural and economic diversity (love that DC will meet lots of different kinds of people), public transportation (environmental factor), and the general excitement of it all. I like apartment living more than living in a house (partly for environmental reasons, partly just because I'm lazy and wouldn't want to take care of all the house/yard stuff). I'm lucky to live near a park, so I have easy access to green spaces.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:35 AM Flag-
OP: Ha, don't laugh I have a friend who got a notice that there was a siting in her neighborhood IN HER BACKYARD! She had no idea, and she has a newborn. Let's just say she's very nervous. I don't think a Coyote could take my kid down, plus i'd bite that bitch back and I know I weigh more. Anyway we have hard core fencing (thinking dogs burrow under fences....don't they) OK so you have muggers and we have rabid wild dogs. I think that's a tie.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:15 AM Flag
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I do like both the suburbs and the city for very different reasons, but I have actually become a bit scared of living in the suburbs lately. My brother has the coyote problem mentioned, and they say to keep small children and pets in the house. Both the petty theft and violent crime has been increasing in a lot of the more urban suburbs. It is disturbing because if I moved, I would not want to be max 20 miles from the city. a guy drove by my 12 yo niece while she was walking on the sidewalk and asked her to get in the car. My mother's friend answered the door to a convicted rapist who had asked to use the phone and was scared away by the contractors working on her house. She called the police and they found a knife on him and arrested him. I know the actual probability of anything happening is low, but it would freak me out to be alone in a house sometimes. In the city, I never feel threatened because there are people around all the time.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:41 AM FlagFunny you say all that. I've known people who lived in the city for years and never owned a gun until they moved out to the country.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:01 AM FlagOP I think city people who move out to the burbs feel a lot more vulnerable even if it is sometimes imagined. I used to wig out in my driveway at night and didn't dare go outside or into basement at night either. Got used to it though. Now the city noise bothers me. It's whatever you are conditioned to.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 03:37 PM Flag
My dh and I love more of a city lifestyle and this is #1 reason we like NYC. As far as the kids are concerned I really like the difference in mentality. For example in the burbs a kid who is good in math or likes chess is considered a nerd but I am not seeing that in the NYC schools. Education is valued higher and being smart is overall considered a positive quality, I did not find that to be the case when I lived in the burbs.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:44 AM FlagOP That's interesting. So you think it's more jocks v smart kids in the burbs? More emphasis on sports? My nephews are both so I didn't see that.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:53 AM FlagThat was my personal experience. I was born outside the US where values are very different. Both dh and I went to suburban high schools in the US. We feel that we would be raising strangers if we moved out to the suburbs because values are more homogeneous and are very different from ours.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 09:57 AM FlagNP ITA about the value system in the suburbs. I went to school in the suburbs, at a place that was supposedly into education. But even the smart kids were expected to be really into sports. And so many of the parents were really wrapped up in their kids' sporting events - it was kind of pathetic. Not that helicopter parents in the city aren't pathetic, too, they most certainly are. But a 50 YO man going ballistic at a high school basketball game is pretty sad.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:02 AM Flag
City living is a pain. But I like it because it is exciting and there are a lot of really cool things to do here. Things happen here that don't happen anywhere else, because it's NYC. I love the burbs (grew up there), but we've established a whole way of life here with our kids, so, I can't see us changing it to shuttle around in a car every day.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:06 AM Flag
The majority of parents in NYC are not obsessed with school. You happen to be on a board without 50 women who love to be catty and obsessive. The real world is not like this. We love NY because we enjoy living in one of the greatest cities in the world. We prefer an urban, cosmopolitan environment. Not all of us are UMC strivers who create a competitive, suburban atmosphere in our nabes. Most NYers who are raising children hear send their DCs to public, spend quality time in our great parks, enjoy eating at some of the best restaurants in the world and knowing that you can order in some amazing Indian at 12am. Living in a burb that is 18 miles from the city sounds awful to me. It's a commuter town where everyone feels the need to describe that they are *only* 18 miles away and have all the benefits of the 'burbs.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:19 AM FlagTrue that. The suburban types in Manhattan are those who pick up cupcakes at Crumbs, go to Citibabes Yoga and only see movies at Loews. Why live in Manhattan if you are only going to frequent the suburban, chain stores? I know someone who eats at Outback Steakhouse every Friday because it's good. ?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:22 AM Flag
A lot of reasons - the commutes being the biggest (DH's is 20 minutes from home, mine is 10 minutes from DDs school). If we lived out of NYC in a place close enough for both of us to have a "reasonable" commute, we'd work so many hours that we'd never see her, if we lived far enough to afford one of us to SAH, the other one would never be home when DD was awake. DD is in a school that we like more than the suburban publics DH and I went to (one in W'chester, the other on LI). We like having AMNH a 10 minute walk from our front door, Lincoln Center 10 minutes in the other direction and having CP a half-block away. When DH broke his ankle and couldn't drive for 2 months, it wasn't a big deal - if we lived in the 'burbs, just getting to work would have been a major PITA.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 10:34 AM FlagI could have written this - this is our argument for staying. Once you get over it, space is overhyped.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 12:12 PM FlagOutdoor space isn't overhyped. We don't have to schlep to the park for a quick outdoor run around. I can even watch him from inside the house. If you had my kid you'd understand why this is a great thing for us.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 02:51 PM FlagMy brother was a spectacular athlete - he outgrew my parent's backyard before he hit 5th grade. He needed to round up other DCs to play with - easier to do in a big park, particularly since the neighbors DCs were much older or much younger. He also spent a lot of time jumping fences into neighbor's yards to get the soccer/football/lacrosse balls that found their way over the fence. Also not an issue in a big park. For our family, once he had turned 9, that backyard was just another piece of grass that needed to be mowed.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 03:10 PM Flag
relative visiting today. just spent the day at the Met. with relative and ds looking at the mummies, knights in armor, frank lloyd wright, tiffany, and picasso. can't get that in the burbs.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 12:26 PM FlagSince you mention the school thing as a reason to not live here, I can tell you that its not really that big of a deal. yes, its a process but its not really hard. and your dc could wind up in a truly amazing school. My dc's school is an amazing place and I'm so glad dc has the opportunity to go there. there aren't any schools like dc's in the suburbs.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 12:56 PM FlagTo me Manhattan vs Burbs quality of life comes down to ONE issue: MONEY. I *loved* the city when we had plenty of money and could live an easy life: taxis, extra childcare, whatever groceries we want, broadway, etc. Now that we have much less money, I am finding the city depressing and difficult. I would prefer Manhattan if we re-earn a bunch of money ($1M+/year), but the burbs otherwise.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 01:07 PM FlagI actually think its a lot easier here than the suburbs - especially with dcs. We walk everywhere, don't have to do much housework or yardwork, its easy to travel, it's easy to get out do kid friendy activities. If we run out of something we run downstairs and get it. I couldn't imagine having to manage a house and 2+ cars and commute for a couple of hours a day.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 02:03 PM FlagOP I do find it stressful running out for small stuff with DS but he's just really hard to dress and get out of the house. Would be the same in the city. At least i get to chill out when he's in the car seat which he loves. And i guess it's easier to get stuff delivered but i do like being forced to get out of the house a bit and having the easy option to go into the garden/yard to play whenever. I have a very hyper kid. When he goes to my BF on UES (Junior 4) he destroys the place. Same friend says she's jealous every time she comes and we eat/play outside. We can easily stay home all day. Anyway, this conversation is moot I could never afford to live in the city anyway. Obviously if we had a million plus a year I'd love it and have a weekend house too.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 02:41 PM Flag
I am out of the city for the summer and when I get back I will not want to get in my car for months. It is filthy inside and out-I feel like I live in it. schlepping the dc everywhere for every little thing. In the city I walk 3-4 miles a day easily, and while the burbs does have its conveniences (more space, backyard, grilling, gardening) I will really be glad to get back in a few weeks.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 04:23 PM FlagOP see and my car is like my "office" and i love to be out all day. We do walk and go to the lake or park each day but i have some downtime with my maniac 3 year old under control in the back during the drive and sometimes he sleeps. I may feel differently when he's older. My car is my savior. It really really does get DISGUSTING though. But that's part of my mundane job as a SAHM in the burbs. Keeping it clean. Probably sounds like torture to you guys!
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 04:39 PM Flag
I have a very hyper 3yo DS who needs constant stimulation and places to run around. Central Park is his backyard as we live 5 minutes away. He gets constant stimulation from the people, sights and sounds because we have to walk everywhere. The most mundane errands are interesting to him because I am not shoving him into a carseat and driving from destination to destination. I love that we can eat hotdogs on the steps of Lincoln Center before running in for a children's performance. He goes to one of the best schools in the country and has numerous resources at his reach.
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 07:52 PM FlagI don't understand the point of this post. You spent the whole time refuting people's reasons for liking the city with your assertion that your suburb is just as good and better because you have "nature". You kept saying how close you were to the city, how you have all of the same conveniences. Who are you trying to convince?
[ Reply | More ]08.13.10, 08:10 PM Flag
[+] When the economy recovers, will you live differently? 7 replies
- buy more clothes, take better trips, maybe buy an apartment. we've always been savers but are saving even more now, when it impoves we will splurge a little again. we have both remained employed, so that has helped....
Talk : : August 12, 2010
When the economy recovers, will you live differently?
7 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.12.10, 08:01 AM Flag ]not much. I currently am lucky to have a job and I live within my means. I don't rack everything up on the credit card. When economy recovers, it shouldn't change very much for me. My current job is also a very stable job with 80K salary that does not change with the economy. It's not like it's going to fly from 80K to 200K+ like people on wall street.
[ Reply | More ]08.12.10, 08:05 AM FlagMy lifestyle hasn't changed at all in spite of the economy. We live pretty frugally for an IB family (I couldn't care less about designer clothes, for example) and everything's the same as always. Will remain so after the economy improves.
[ Reply | More ]08.12.10, 08:51 AM Flag
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[+] having hard time dealing with dear friend who just"met the man of my dreams" he sound... 3 replies
- beat yourself up for feeling envy, that does NOT make you a bad person. and finally, 6) Can you treat yourself to some "me" time? Even taking a nice long walk or meeting a friend for a coffee (I realize money is tight, but can you splurge on coffee and a chat on a park bench?)...
Talk : : August 07, 2010
having hard time dealing with dear friend who just"met the man of my dreams" he sounds fabulous. i get texted after returning from the best restaurants, w/e house or just when he tells her how much he loves her. she also has no kids so no stress there. though i adore my 2 boys to pieces, it can be exhausting at times.does not help that in my corner is not marital bliss, unemplyed dh and being generally tired.
3 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.07.10, 11:00 AM Flag ]1) normal to have feelings of jealousy. 2) I am sure she has had her moments of being envious of your life, too. 3) try to be happy for her (obviously). 4) Try to remember all that you have that you are grateful for. 5) Don't beat yourself up for feeling envy, that does NOT make you a bad person. and finally, 6) Can you treat yourself to some "me" time? Even taking a nice long walk or meeting a friend for a coffee (I realize money is tight, but can you splurge on coffee and a chat on a park bench?)
[ Reply | More ]08.07.10, 11:11 AM Flag
[+] What's your budget for back-to-school clothes for your elementary school-aged kids? ... 11 replies
- OP: same here, but I would like to start somewhere, and be able to splurge on a few items, if I successfully buy bargains with others. DD circled 10+ items from the Mini Boden catalog...
Talk : : August 05, 2010
What's your budget for back-to-school clothes for your elementary school-aged kids?
11 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.05.10, 07:46 PM Flag ]Someone will slap me, I'm sure, but no set budget. I just buy what they need.
[ Reply | More ]08.05.10, 08:17 PM FlagSame here. I try to shop sales whenever possible and go to the outlets.
[ Reply | More ]08.05.10, 08:26 PM FlagOP: same here, but I would like to start somewhere, and be able to splurge on a few items, if I successfully buy bargains with others. DD circled 10+ items from the Mini Boden catalog... I would like to be able to get at least one item, if I can get some other stuff at Target & Old Navy.
[ Reply | More ]08.05.10, 08:29 PM FlagWhat is the big deal with MB? Most of their stuff seems to be applique driven, ie a fish on a striped shirt/dress or since I love this site called Etsy, very much like a knock off of actual handmade boutique items. Have you ever thought of getting some of her stuff from Etsy, there are alot of cute things on there that are original too and they end up being cheaper than the brands.
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I am a bargain shopper. I buy nice tops and dresses (JCrew, Hanna, Gymboree) on sale and the basics from Target/Old Navy/Children's Place. We also belong to a shoe club at a local shoe store (buy 10, get one free). I also don't buy too much for early fall since it's only a few months before it gets cold.
[ Reply | More ]08.06.10, 04:27 AM Flag$3000 per child - 4 pairs of jeans, 4 trousers, 16 tops, 4 sweaters, 4 coats/blazers + underwear & shoes.
[ Reply | More ]08.06.10, 07:02 AM Flag
[+] I need shoe advice: I just bought new Manolos on sale in New Orleans. Never owned sho... 13 replies
- Like I said, I don't own a lot of expensive stuff. If I splurge on something, I want it to last. Why is this bad?...
- what, you have never splurged on anything?...
Talk : : August 05, 2010
I need shoe advice: I just bought new Manolos on sale in New Orleans. Never owned shoes that expensive before, so not sure how to take care of them. Any tips? Should I have the soles/heels padded or will it ruin them?
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Jealous much? I said they were on sale, 250 instead of the usual 500
[ Reply | More ]08.05.10, 03:39 PM FlagOR: Sigh. Lamest UB retort ever. No, I'm not jealous because I don't wear high heels. I was teasing you because they're just. shoes. Don't be a sucker for their marketing.
[ Reply | More ]08.06.10, 03:50 AM FlagLike I said, I don't own a lot of expensive stuff. If I splurge on something, I want it to last. Why is this bad?
[ Reply | More ]08.06.10, 06:29 AM Flag
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[+] What were you like before you had kids? What are you like now? Before: I was an actre... 14 replies
- My hair was always laid though I did it myself, I made sure I had the knowledge to do it myself and always used professional products.Prior to kids, I did spend a good deal on clothing, always had my manicure and pedicures done and splurged on having my eyebrows done by a celebrity eyebrow person(I live in Socal. I'd often spend $75-100 on my eyebrows alone. I felt justified because my skin was exquisite so I didn't have to wear much makeup which meant that with...
Talk : : August 04, 2010
What were you like before you had kids? What are you like now? Before: I was an actress that would get $200 haircuts and go to the newest restaurants. After: I'm a SAHM and haven't gotten my haircut in over a year and just ate the spaghetti that my son threw on the floor.
14 replies [ Reply | Watch | More08.04.10, 11:28 AM Flag ]Why are you waiting to get a haircut? Intentional or saving money?
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 11:31 AM FlagOP: I just put my hair back in a ponytail and trim my bangs...I didn't realize it had been so long until recently...a person asked me where the welfare office was- there was a lot of other people around and I wondered why she asked me...I looked at myself in the mirror and realized I should probably get a haircut.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 11:47 AM FlagBefore: Expensive haircuts, dinner, vacations,lots of sex with DH. Now, cheap haircuts, beans and rice for dinner to save money for private school tuition. Before: My purpose in life was to be cooler and hotter than the next woman. Now my purpose in life is just to raise a really good person and give her a happy childhood.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 02:27 PM Flag
You sound depressed. Get a babysitter and go get your hair cut or go back to work.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 11:42 AM FlagI am a Mom of 3 dc. I have a graduate type degree and worked for 7 yrs before kids. I had a very prestigious and high paying position. Then I had 3 babies all of a sudden. I went through a period of self neglect until the youngest was about 4. I went for a period of almost 2 yrs where I didn't cut, color or highlight my hair. Finally, when I was asked to give a speech, I had my hair cut and donated 12 inches to "Locks of Love" , which makes wigs for children with cancer. Finally, when I started going back to work PT, I felt good about myself again. Now I spend 250-300 every 3 mos for a color, highlight and cut, and I feel so much better.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 11:48 AM FlagI have 2dc, I can't exactly get with the 2-300 haircuts even prior to children, must be a NYer thing. My hair was always laid though I did it myself, I made sure I had the knowledge to do it myself and always used professional products.Prior to kids, I did spend a good deal on clothing, always had my manicure and pedicures done and splurged on having my eyebrows done by a celebrity eyebrow person(I live in Socal. I'd often spend $75-100 on my eyebrows alone. I felt justified because my skin was exquisite so I didn't have to wear much makeup which meant that with my brows done, I simply needed lipstick or gloss and that was it. Now post kids: haven't done or gotten my hair done in 6 months, haven't had the brows done since my 2nd dc was born. Clothes are jeans and a tee and I've had the same couple pairs of jeans for the last 2 years. All of my shirts except for three "good" ones seem to have bleach stains on them from me cleaning some portion of the house.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 12:15 PM FlagBefore dcs, I had the lady down the block cut my hair ($20) because as a grad student, I couldn't afford anything else. Along the same lines, I either walked or took the subway, never a cab, and rarely went out to eat. I looked great, though, b/c I was fit, and got plenty of sleep. After 2 dcs and generous dh, I do spend money on hair, however I still find it extremely difficult to shake old habits- I still walk everywhere (hate spending money on taxis) also hate spending money on going out to eat, or even delivery. I feel crazy saying that I work FT and cook. Having said that, dh and I also go out together a lot for events and we give a lot of money to charity. I don't look so hot because of lack of sleep with young dcs.
[ Reply | More ]08.04.10, 12:41 PM FlagI was an executive who spent about $300 quarterly on my hair and went out for cocktails/dinner at least 3x a week. Now I haven't had my hair done in over six months and rarely go out to eat. Although I haven't actually eating the spaghetti my dc threw on the floor, I have eaten a goldfish or two...
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