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[ - ] Are there day camps for english speaking children in Tokyo and Hong kong 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:17 PM Flag
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I was just promoted at work and need to build tight relationships with our tokyo and hing kong offices [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:18 PM Flag
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So i want to spend all of july living in tokyo with my ten year old son and all of august living in hong kong [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:19 PM Flag
[ - ] NYC Moms: Best things to do in NYC with 10 and 12 year old boys? Nephews are visiting. They live in Europe, VERY sporty and smart. I have younger daughters. We'll probably do some stuff all together but I'd love to suggest some activities to my BIL/SIL for the older boys to enjoy. Thanks! 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:11 PM Flag
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Barclay Center for NETS game! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:12 PM Flag
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This! Also, Chelsea Piers for fun activities (bowling, skating, basketball, etc), Museum of Math could be fun for them too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:15 PM Flag
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Go to the movies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:16 PM Flag
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Nets, Knicks or rangers game, ice skating - not rock center because you can't move but laser or wollmn, natural history museum, chelsea piers (bowling, golf is heated in winter, etc), transport museum in Brooklyn (really not just for little kids) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:16 PM Flag
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Go Kart racing, mall shopping with the Trapeze school and the hurricane and earthquake booths, build your burger at fuddruckers, iMax 3D movie [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:18 PM Flag
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She said NYC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:20 PM Flag
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Why. Don't you have any of these things in NYC ?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Need ideas for appetizers, casual cocktail party tomorrow... 30 people... other than cheese-based (already have). Sick of making the same things... what would you want to eat at a party? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:59 PM Flag
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shrimp cocktail always a treat [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:00 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:07 PM Flag
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bacon-wrapped dates, deviled eggs, good salumi & proscuitto [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:00 PM Flag
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+1 bacon wrapped dates [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:13 PM Flag
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Pigs in a blanket. Not kidding. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:09 PM Flag
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This is the best appetizer ever. Trust me: Get a bag of pitted dates. Mix up some cream cheese and parmesan cheese. Fry up some crisp bacon. Put a dollop of the cheese mix inside each date. Then place a small bacon slice vertically inside it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:09 PM Flag
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only if you like dates - me personally rather have a cherry tomato stuffed with herbed feta [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:19 PM Flag
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Spanish tapas! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:21 PM Flag
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Vegetarian Sushi, get a platter of California Rolls etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:12 PM Flag
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For elegant casual cocktail party, I always have a 2-3 lb block of smoked salmon/gravlax (surrounded by dills) next to a basket of sliced baguette baked crispy with olive oil. It's always the first dish to go. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:16 PM Flag
[ - ] What color iPad should I get? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:55 PM Flag
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I always get plain (silver or grey) and then buy a cool cover (iphone and ipad). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:06 PM Flag
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They are all "plain" - but its either a black front with "steel" back, or white front with either silver or gold back [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:17 PM Flag
[ - ] In my town, kids are bringing their Elf on the Shelf to school to play. The mothers are getting upset because the magic will be lost if they touch the elf. 1) the elf is a DOLL from at least the 50s-my parents had them and they never flew away and I could touch them 2) why are toys being brought to school by 3rd and 4th graders?? 3) here's a thought parents-if you don't want snowflake taking the elf to school just say NO. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:52 PM Flag
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Ugh, that stupid elf and concept are so creepy! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:53 PM Flag
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4th graders?! My kid hasn't believed since 2nd! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:56 PM Flag
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Mothers are getting so upset about it "the magic will be gone"-oh please [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:03 PM Flag
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Elf on the shelf use to be a silly, fun tradition. Of course it's turn into a FB challenge of who can be the coolest. We haven't done elf on a shelf. I'm not opposed to the idea but feel like the magic left the building a long time ago. People need to get over themselves. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:15 PM Flag
[ - ] People who can't afford xmas gifts shouldn't buy them. Don't send crap my way. Sick of cheap ugly gifts, vent over 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:48 PM Flag
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It's the thought that counts. Your mom sucked [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:51 PM Flag
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no crappy gifts suck [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:53 PM Flag
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Not really. Just regift. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:08 PM Flag
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repeat with me: regift, regift, regift [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:06 PM Flag
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Donate. I'm sure there are many people who'd love what's beneath you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:11 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone have first hand experience with PPAS middle school? DD does all performing arts but is also talented in visual arts and creative writing. Any suggestions for a great middle school in Brooklyn or Manhattan? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:44 PM Flag
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Girl heavy. They like a type. She needs to be strong singer. Did you go to open house? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:46 PM Flag
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No I didn't got to Open House. Mostly, she is a singer songwriter but untrained. Do I need a coach for her - she's only in 4th grade this year. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:53 PM Flag
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Mark Twain has all kinds of performing arts. The top three schools in DIst 15--New Voices, MS 51, MS 447--all have strong arts programs. ICE has great arts. NEST has good arts programs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:52 PM Flag
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Thanks. We are in district 13 so Mark Twain is on our radar but my understanding is that NV, 51, and MS 447 won't look at D13 kids. She has straight As and high 3 math, high 4 ela scores from 3rd grade, not sure how she will fair with 4th grade exams. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:55 PM Flag
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Oh, I'm sorry: it used to be much easier for D13 kids to get into the D15 schools. But you have a little time! Try MS 8 if you can get in, and IS 318 in D14, which has strong arts, I hear. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:59 PM Flag
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Thank you. I didn't realize MS 8 had arts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:59 PM Flag
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Not like PPAS or Twain. They're a new school, but I've heard it's a priority. Given the limited options in district, it's worth exploring. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:01 PM Flag
[ - ] Need nanny bonus advice. She just told us she is going to FL for 10 days over the holidays, which is ok but kind of hard for us as we are still working, but we'll deal - our kids are 12 and 13 now. The thing is, we will be traveling 3 weeks during the upcoming year so she gets that off, too. Do we pay her for this time off she's taking? And how (if at all) should that affect her year-end bonus? She has been with us for 15 months, and we love her and want to keep her happy. TIA! 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:33 PM Flag
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OP: I should have clarified that we will be traveling on school breaks with our kids for 3 separate week-long vacations in the upcoming year, so that's automatic paid time off for her already... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:35 PM Flag
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Usually she'd be given a week or two of her choosing in addition to whatever time you all take off. Did you discuss this when you hired her? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:10 PM Flag
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If you love her, pay her accordingly. I'd still give her the bonus if you can afford it. Just curious: why do you have a nanny if your dcs are 12 and 13? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:35 PM Flag
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So is one week's salary a sufficient bonus? We need her because we live in the burbs and she drives them around everywhere, makes meals for them, and also does all of our laundry, light housekeeping, helps with homework when needed, grocery shops, etc. No way I could work full-time without her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:37 PM Flag
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Maybe ask around locally to see what the going rate is in your burn? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:41 PM Flag
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One week salary is completely sufficient, and given that she gave you NO notice about an imminent trip it is very nice of you. I'd probably just pay her for the rest of the year but no additional bonus given that she's leaving you in the lurch. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:48 PM Flag
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Yes, that occurred to me quite frankly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:00 PM Flag
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Unless you agreed that she gets no vacation of her own choosing and only gets holdiays thst overlap with yours, you pay her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:35 PM Flag
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this and and who cares how much you travel during the year, nanny can be still working cleaning, organizing, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:17 PM Flag
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Did you tell her she could take 2 paid weeks of her choosing? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:37 PM Flag
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Do you give her paid vacation? Has she used her vacation this year? To the extent that she has not used it, I would pay for those days and one day for Christmas. I would not be surprised if she did not come back. I would give her bonus when she comes back and would not pay for any January days. In the real world, you accrue vacation time monthly and it does not seem like she had any carryover. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:37 PM Flag
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She JUST told you about a 10 day trip she's taking next week?! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:38 PM Flag
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Red flag. She is gone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:40 PM Flag
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+1. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:54 PM Flag
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She told me a month ago that she might be going to FL over the holidays (at the time I said it was fine) but it wasn't certain and if I hadn't asked her yesterday I still wouldn't know. I don't know why she didn't follow up and confirm it with me for sure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:00 PM Flag
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I really doubt you "love" her. Sounds like she has a cushy job. What did you agree to wrt vacation? I give one week of my choice, one week at her choice, but 30 day notice (and cannot be the times of year when I work OT, which I tell her in advance) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:41 PM Flag
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Well, we did love her a lot, until yesterday! Now, a little less. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:02 PM Flag
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Does she not have vacation days? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:08 PM Flag
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The year end bonus is for work done and as an incentive to keep in the future. It sounds like you want to do both so give her the bonus you planned. Does the 10 day vacation overlap with the holidays? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Need to get a $450 gift card, either Visa or Amex (or similar). Is it possible to get one for that exact amount, or will I have to get 2 $200 and a $50? Also, where is the best place to buy? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:23 PM Flag
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Buy through your bank. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:28 PM Flag
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Thanks - I didn't know they sold gcs! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:29 PM Flag
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Td bank cards are free for account holders. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:49 PM Flag
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I don't have a td acct... my bank seems to charge $4/card and they don't allow you to choose the denomination. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:51 PM Flag
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I opened an account with $100 just for this purpose! No monthly fees. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:55 PM Flag
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Ask a friend who banks there [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:56 PM Flag
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CVS, Target, etc. have GCs that you can specify the amount on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:34 PM Flag
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Yes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:02 PM Flag
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Maybe amex? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:56 PM Flag
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Amex website I mean if you have a card [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:57 PM Flag
[ - ] My DCs teacher assigned a detailed project in Nov. it was turned in right before thanksgiving. Still no grade. This defeats the purpose of homework. The students should get feedback in a timely fashion. If you are too busy to grade it, perhaps you shouldn't assign it. Vent over. 53 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:15 PM Flag
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Union teacher? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:18 PM Flag
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Why do you ask? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:19 PM Flag
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I send my kids to private because I work in a public with the laziest tenured teachers alive [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:57 PM Flag
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Think of it as practice. Presumably, the DC learned something from the project irrespective of the grade. If the teacher isn't sitting down with students and working through deficiencies in detail, the grade doesn't actually mean a whole lot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:19 PM Flag
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Can you read? OP complained kid did not get feedback. Teachers should do better than this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:20 PM Flag
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How many classes does she have to grade? Consider each project will take at least 20 minutes to carefully review. That's 3 a day, if she spends an hour an a day just on this... Jeez [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:26 PM Flag
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So much for the complaints of teachers about working through the night. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:28 PM Flag
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Indeed! Or during their free period. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:32 PM Flag
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I think that was most of the one hour per day that the OR above was willing to commit that a teacher should work on grading. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:48 PM Flag
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NP except teacher have a free period, their day does not end when last bell rings and they say they take home work all the time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:49 PM Flag
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I do not disagree, just responding. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:54 PM Flag
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Same thing with my child's English teacher. Forces them to write everyday - but never reads/comments/corrects their writing. All this accomplishes is the reinforcement of BAD habits. Infuriating! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:26 PM Flag
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I have a different point of view. My dc has often had teachers who mandate writing every day and don't often grade (5 classes, 34 kids in each, just imagine how long it would take to grade this each night). I have come to think that the point is the writing practice; when my dc has one of these teachers, I can see his writing improving over the course of the semester, and I think that's the point. Similar to the math teachers who don't check the homework closely--the point is to do it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:33 PM Flag
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Well - that isn't the point of homework. Homework is intended to reinforce what you learned in class - but we have long since strayed from that idea. I don't even know how to address the idea that a child benefits from doing math problems incorrectly over and over. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:35 PM Flag
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Why focus on math? I would say this about any subject, that teacher needs to look at and provide feedback. I do agree, feedback doesn't have to be grading, but it needs to address what was great, good and needs work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:40 PM Flag
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I addressed math because you used it as an example. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:40 PM Flag
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Sorry, I might not have been clear. In the cases above, the teachers were excellent, and they seemed to make sure that the dcs were on track. The humanities teachers who mandated the nightly writing either collected it sometimes--and gave fairly quick feedback--or the math teacher had the dcs go over some of the problems the next day in class. The math teachers could tell who was struggling and when to spend extra time on a concept. This has been the case through much of dc's high school career--it takes the teachers a while to get to big projects, essay tests, etc., but the homework seems purposeful even if not scrutinized with a fine-tooth comb. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:40 PM Flag
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It would be far better to have less writing and more feedback. Lazy ass teacher. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:39 PM Flag
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No, I want my dc to have more nightly writing practice. Plenty of feedback when essays come back. But maybe it's different in high school; dcs are expect to be more independent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:43 PM Flag
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This. And they are so incredibly short sighted. Tremendous amount of emphasis on "love of reading". But they can't come home and get lost in a book. You force them each and every night to STOP reading in order to write a ridiculous reading response (and this is their pleasure book - not class assigned). You have list the forests for the tress. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:44 PM Flag
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THIS. Why are you making it all about grades, OP? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:27 PM Flag
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I'm not. You are. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:29 PM Flag
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Because it is clear kid is not getting feedback, so kid will keep making same mistakes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:29 PM Flag
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Did you miss the words "feedback"? Are you a teacher? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:30 PM Flag
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OR: I'm just calling BS on OP. She wants the grade. I highly doubt she is expecting that kind of detailed feedback thst would really be meaningful. As someone else pointed out, if the teacher is thoughtfully reviewing each of these largr projects, that takes time too. She isn't going to give back two a day for a month. Instead, she will give them all back at the same time. Likely after Christmas once she has had time to review. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:39 PM Flag
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I think you are full of it. Usually the feedback and the grade come together, as the teacher cannot do either until he/she reads it. NP [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:44 PM Flag
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I think you are the BS one, not OP [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:48 PM Flag
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Typical of NYC tenured teacher. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:19 PM Flag
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Please tell me this is not in one of the UB favored publics? Like PS 6. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:20 PM Flag
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It's middle school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:24 PM Flag
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Not answering my question. Is it one respected by UB? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:27 PM Flag
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Why is this important? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:30 PM Flag
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Because I am trying to gauge moving to burb and I want to get an idea, are the "better" public schools in NYC just the ones with a better peer group, or is the teaching better? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:33 PM Flag
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There are good and bad teachers at every school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:38 PM Flag
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The problem is that the NYC union rules make it much tougher to get rid of teachers. In burbs, principal can make it happen. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:42 PM Flag
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SO TRUE! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:43 PM Flag
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Really? That's crazy since they get grades in MS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:30 PM Flag
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Exactly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:32 PM Flag
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Teachers (and administrators) have no idea what they are doing when it comes to homework. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:20 PM Flag
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WHAT? Why do you care? it was a detailed project, can you imagine what it's like to grade 60 detailed projects? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:24 PM Flag
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Then teacher should not assign. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:27 PM Flag
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THIS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:31 PM Flag
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It is their job. It should not wait until January. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:28 PM Flag
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Much less time than to do it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:30 PM Flag
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THANK YOU! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:33 PM Flag
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Same here. 2/3 of all assignments haven't been graded. No feedback no improvement [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:29 PM Flag
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I agree. Dc had a teacher last year who assigned lots of homework and he virtually never got feedback, or if he did it was so long after the assignment it was virtually useless. It has to be soon enough that the DC can remember what they did and think about how they can improve. Compared to this year: Much less homework but get feedback within a few days. So much better. Dc's writing has improved by leaps and bounds. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:31 PM Flag
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This. Burb mom from below. Our kids do not get nearly as much homework as you guys, but it is meaningful and there is quick feedback. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:34 PM Flag
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This is why I am happy I moved to burbs, still union teachers, BUT not crazy NYC system of arbitration where they cannot be fired. If parents complain about something like this, principal comes up with action plan (not that it comes up much, because surprise, surprise, teachers know that school can take action without a federal case). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:32 PM Flag
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What burbs are good near you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:01 PM Flag
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Edgemont, Ardsley [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:04 PM Flag
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If it's a big project--something that took a couple of weeks--I'd be surprised to get it back before xmas break; the teachers need time to grade properly and give feedback. I have learned to trust them to take their time. Occasionally you get a bad apple, but most of the time, they're doing their best with a crazy workload (public). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:54 PM Flag
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That's because all this homework is largely just busywork. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:56 PM Flag
[ - ] What is another way of saying working 24-7 (like working around the clock)? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 12:37 PM Flag
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Non-stop. Without at break. All day and all night. At all hours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 12:58 PM Flag
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Non stop. Burning the midnight oil [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:01 PM Flag
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Burning the candle at both ends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:02 PM Flag
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That tends to mean working and partying. So I might stay away from that one [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:16 PM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:28 PM Flag
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No, when I grew up, we used it to mean desperately busy with many different obligations. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:34 PM Flag
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Mother. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:13 PM Flag
[ - ] You stupid, passive-aggressive piece of dirt. I told you on phone I would be out of the office yesterday, I e-mailed this to you, my e-mail auto-response was set with this information, and my voicemail greeting said the same. You went above my head and bitched that you did not know. I hope you get what you deserve. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 12:32 PM Flag
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Wow. Breathe and state the above calmly. Easy to verify. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:02 PM Flag
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Client or colleague? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:09 PM Flag
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Calm down. Maybe your attitude has more to do with why the person took advantage of the situation than anything else. You sound like a loose cannon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:29 PM Flag
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Keep a calendar online, no more excuses for not knowing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 01:52 PM Flag
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I hear you!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 12.18.14, 02:16 PM Flag
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