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[ - ] Israel is going to be taken to the cleaners by the State of Palestine in the International Court of Justice: "9 July 2004 – The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued an advisory opinion today that Israel's building of a barrier in the occupied Palestinian territory is illegal and said construction must stop immediately and Israel should make reparations for any damage caused." The Gaza bombing was after that, so I assume a ton of compensation for that as well. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:20 AM Flag
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The only power plant Gaza had that was destroyed by Israel a couple of days ago it's insured by USA. So USA taxpayers, whether pro-Israel or not will have to pay for that bombing as well. LESSON: don't support apartheids if possible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:21 AM Flag
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Power Plant Bombed In Gaza Is Insured By U.S. Government http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/gaza-power-plant_n_5634723.html So Gaza will soon get a new power plant!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:23 AM Flag
[ - ] Israel is SO FUCKED! The State of Palestine had earned access to the International Court of Justice. Now it can bring "crimes against humanity" and war-crimes charges, including that of unlawfully occupying the territory of State of Palestine, against Israel in the International Criminal Court. Amazing that the morons Israelitas didn't adjust their behavior after 2012, what kind of international judge in the ICC would ever rule in favor of Israel?? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:09 AM Flag
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The State of Palestine will be able to live for life with the reparations Israel will have to pay it. But... unfortunately that might mean that USA will end up paying. Just like with the only power plant that Israel just bombed in Gaza, it was insured by the USA government. That means: by all of us! THANK YOU ISRAEL! Way too much STEM but little humanities and common sense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:11 AM Flag
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if this is true, the more Israel continues destroying Gaza, they more $$$$ they will have to end up paying the State of Palestine. it's quite... short-sighted? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:13 AM Flag
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"International Court of Justice finds Israeli barrier in Palestinian territory is illegal" 9 July 2004 – The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued an advisory opinion today that Israel's building of a barrier in the occupied Palestinian territory is illegal and said construction must stop immediately and Israel should make reparations for any damage caused. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:12 AM Flag
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AUCH! Apartheids don't last forever! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:12 AM Flag
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didn't Germany also had to compensate the descendants of the Holocaust? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:15 AM Flag
[ - ] Apartheid of Israel against Palestinians in the occupied territories: different busses. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:23 AM Flag
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/israeli-buses-for-palestinians-spark-accusations-of-segregation/2013/03/05/eb5af4fc-85d6-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_story.html “This is what apartheid looks like,” Zehava Galon, a lawmaker who heads the leftist Meretz party in parliament, wrote on her Facebook page. “Separate bus lines for Palestinians and Jews prove that democracy and occupation can’t coexist.” [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:23 AM Flag
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Bassam Hanani, 38, a father of four, said the new bus routes were safer “because we avoid the settlers,” who he said were hostile and used “foul language” against the Palestinians on the Israeli routes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:24 AM Flag
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SAD!!! this palestinian is putting up with it: As for the charges of apartheid, “they can say what they want, as long as I’m safe on the bus,” Liftawi said. “I just want to put bread on the table for my children.” [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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Why is Israel unable to keep the settlers civil? In reality it is the settlers who harass the Palestinians, not vice versa. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:26 AM Flag
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the settlers might be planning on making their lives as miserable as possible so that they leave (who knows where) and the settlers get much more land. similar to what Israel does as a gov policy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:18 AM Flag
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Separate but equal. The Republican Party in the U.S. will support that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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What a progressive country is Israel! Most western nations overcame racism a long time ago. Israel is still getting into it instead of out of it and that in the 21st century! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:26 AM Flag
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This segregated bus service is the first mark of Apartheid and certainly leaves no doubt that Apartheid is the goal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:27 AM Flag
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Don't forget to throw in brutal occupation, land theft and ethnic cleansing. It is no coincidence that Israel and North Korea share the same stature on the world stage. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:27 AM Flag
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Different kisses? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:30 AM Flag
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Different kisses? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:30 AM Flag
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only if the busses are really really close :-) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:55 AM Flag
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not for too long! "9 July 2004 – The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued an advisory opinion today that Israel's building of a barrier in the occupied Palestinian territory is illegal and said construction must stop immediately and Israel should make reparations for any damage caused." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 07:19 AM Flag
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General Topics 07.31.14, 04:35 AM Flag
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That link causes a computer virus [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:40 AM Flag
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this gave me leaking anus [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:47 AM Flag
[ - ] Escort Mom... Still here? Can we do an "Ask you anything" session please? 203 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:06 AM Flag
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Hi- sure, I'm here. I've done it before, but if you have questions ask away, I'll do my best! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:59 AM Flag
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also, it's Former Escort Mom, lol... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:59 AM Flag
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FEM: describe your stereotypical client. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:12 AM Flag
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EM- Had a dick and wanted me to do things to it for money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:03 AM Flag
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^^ This isn't me. This is someone else, fyi. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:14 AM Flag
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It was a joke [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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Hmm, they varied. Although I had a "type" I liked to pick for a client- older, married, professional and nerdy. They were safer and less risky on my end. Also they would get down to business and head out. The worst was getting some young Wall Street buck who wanted to party and hang out and do drugs (I never did drugs, so it was always awkward). Like any job, it becomes a job and starts to be a grind, so the easier clients were less work ;) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:05 AM Flag
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Did any of them ever come crying to you ridden with guilt they had cheated? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:06 AM Flag
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No. Most of them were very happily married. In fact some of my "frequents" truly seemed to very much love their wives. They would ask me to consult on what purses or jewelry pieces to purchase for their wives. At the time, I remember thinking that was romantic and sweet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:12 AM Flag
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What would you say was the biggest factor in motivating the married men to come to you? Lack of sex or something more? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:16 AM Flag
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I'd say boredom with their current routines and lives. A lot of them seemed to work so hard, and seeing me was their own special treat/reward/secret thing to look forward to. I knew several really fat and unattractive escorts who also had thriving business. I think sometimes men just crave variety. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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Did you have a rule about condoms? Was there any married men drama? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:38 AM Flag
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Condoms for all sex. I had one client who would BEG for sex without a condom, and after seeing him for a year or so and also verifying that he was clean via test results, twice- exactly twice- I allowed it, for an increased rate of course. In retrospect that was a terrible decision, and I felt bad about doing that. No married men drama. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:24 AM Flag
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Because it was too intimate? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:29 AM Flag
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I'm sorry I don't understand this question. It was a terrible decision because of risk exposure, imo. Also then he never wanted to use a condom again, but I wasn't comfortable with that. I think I phased him out as a client. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:23 AM Flag
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Did any of them ever turn you on? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:06 AM Flag
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Yes, absolutely! I had three clients who turned into regular boyfriends/sugar daddy types who I had full blown relationships with and was proposed to by two of them. But, I couldn't do it... they were very rich and I cared for them heaps, but thought it would always be weird down the road if we had kids/things could get nasty quick if they'd brought up my past. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:24 AM Flag
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Does your current partner know today? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:16 AM Flag
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Nope. I posted more about that in this thread: http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55297168 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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Why did you start escorting? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:11 AM Flag
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Around 2004, when I moved to Manhattan after college. I was working retail, thinking about applying to graduate schools. At first it was just innocent escorting, strictly dinner, concerts, shows, cocktails. After about 6 months of that, I moved "up" to oral only. Then after a year or so I went full service. I worked independently and for a bit with an agency. At one point I even worked with the Empire Club, where Spitzer went! But I wasn't with them when he was a client, as far as I know. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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In your day how much were you raking in? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:04 AM Flag
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see below: I was making 2k-ish a day, I'd escort 2x a week and enjoy the rest of my week. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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So 16k a month? That's about 176k a year. Did you keep it up for a year? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:32 AM Flag
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I did it between 2003-2010. But off and on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:46 AM Flag
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So you never had a boyfriend all that time? Or was that why it was "off?" And if so, how did you explain how you made your money? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:48 AM Flag
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It was off because I was lazy, mainly. If I had a good client paying most of my expenses, then I wouldn't book anyone else. So then it would just be like I had a boyfriend who funded my lifestyle. I dated two or three clients as full-blown relationships, where they just financed my life for a while. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:22 AM Flag
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So, you just told your friends and family that this guy was your rich boyfriend? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:38 AM Flag
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Ha- no, I didn't introduce them to my family or friends. But we mainly traveled or spent time with their friends- didn't really do things involving people I knew. Not sure if that was a conscientious strategy on my end, just the way it happened. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:42 AM Flag
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Were threesomes a burden or easier bc you split the work? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:15 AM Flag
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They were a burden because it brought in another unknown element to the situation- I knew myself, I generally used repeat clients or screened them very well, but I didn't know about the other girl- if she had diseases, was crazy, etc. Also I'm not bisexual, so was kind of a pain to fake it the whole time. But if it was a regular client, I'd do my best to make him happy and keep him satisfied! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:07 AM Flag
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This is what I thought. Just another element/complication. And I'm sure the clients had such ridiculous expectations and realized quickly it was just another thing... Not magic. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:12 AM Flag
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How much would you earn for companionship as opposed to full service? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:04 AM Flag
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The rates varied throughout my career as I learned and realized what to do and not to do, but I was generally around $500 an evening for a plain old date with no funny business. Once I started really offering other services like GFE, I was around $500/hour with a 2-hour minimum. With the agency, I think it was $800 an hour. If the client took me away for a weekend I'd be around $2500 for the weekend. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:09 AM Flag
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GFE means? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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"Girlfriend Experience" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:30 AM Flag
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How would you get them to pay you $500 for taking you out to dinner? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:33 AM Flag
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Advertise escorting on craigslist casual encounters. Lots of men are looking for dates to things, I went to the New York Times Christmas Party as an escort, also the Standard and Poors Christmas party, a bunch of galas for various fundraising events, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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CL seems very dangerous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:29 AM Flag
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Did anyone at the party notice you were an escort? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:30 AM Flag
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No, I don't think so! How could they tell, I just looked like a normal date. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:43 AM Flag
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If you guys looked out of sync or you were extremely pretty compared to the fat ugly dude. Or if they knew the guys personal life sort of well and you just showed up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:42 AM Flag
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Like on Pretty Woman [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:02 AM Flag
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Sure [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:08 AM Flag
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What did you do when you had your period? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:06 AM Flag
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I either booked oral only dates or didn't book a client. I had a few regulars who didn't mind/enjoyed it. There was one business owner of a large retail store who was a Hasidic Jew and was EXTREMELY kinky for things like that. Really good in bed, too... I actually truly enjoyed seeing him and he always turned me on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:10 AM Flag
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How do you book an "oral only" date? How does one advertise that? I assume you advertised on citivibe, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:25 AM Flag
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np: I bet she just told them what was up over the phone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:34 AM Flag
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Never on citivibe, just craigslist. I'd post an ad something along the lines of, "Cute Brunette Co-ed Seeks Oral Encounter." I loved oral-only dates, because I enjoy giving oral, and because I am lazy :P Less mess and less fuss! I would charge around $300 for oral-only. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:34 AM Flag
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Then, how did you work out of a communal apartment? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:39 AM Flag
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I had my own apartment, then I had a separate apartment that I used for escorting. They were both paid for by clients- some of my frequents paid my expenses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:42 AM Flag
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You're telling me someone paid 3 months rent deposit and signed a yr. lease on an apartment for you? Only to have you use it to screw other guys? I don't get it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:36 AM Flag
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She must have looked like Miranda Kerr and given the best bjs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:43 AM Flag
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Ha... I'd been offered more than that! Apartment procurement was a great deal for the client, would work out to cheaper than my hourly rate, and he knew for certain he'd always have a safe and convenient place to see me, on his route home or to work. Also for the men who paid for my apartments he would sometimes stay the night, so I'm sure they wrote it off as a pied a terre or business expense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:49 AM Flag
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Oh, so it was his apartment and he saw other girls there? Again, this doesn't make much sense. If he had a key and could stay the night, how did you book other clients? And if he didn't have to pay you, then didn't he want you there every night for him? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:52 AM Flag
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It was my apartment, he would put it in my name. I'd give him priority for our weekly dates. I never saw clients more than once a week, unless we went away on a trip. They didn't have a key, he would stay over after our date. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:09 AM Flag
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Then, he couldn't have written it off as anything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:17 AM Flag
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Who went to the real estate attorney? You or him? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:09 AM Flag
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How did you broach the subject with them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:31 AM Flag
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I don't understand this question, sorry...? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:43 AM Flag
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Your rates . 500 for nothing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:43 AM Flag
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We're any of them smelly or dirty? I imagine that would be awful [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:09 AM Flag
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Hmm, not in particular that I can recall. I had a shower in the apartment where I hosted, so sometimes men would come over and ask to freshen up before we got intimate (and also sometimes before they left). Usually we would relax on the couch a bit, chat, have wine and stuff beforehand, so I think if anyone was super gross I could have asked them to take a shower. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:16 AM Flag
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Did you develop crushes on any of them, or look forward to seeing them in a non-client way? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:11 AM Flag
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Yes! Please see below. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:29 AM Flag
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Were there situations in which you felt uncomfortable or in danger? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:22 AM Flag
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Yes, two or three times. I think I met the Long Island Serial Killer, which I posted in detail about in this thread: http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55297168 Also, I had a repeat client, a District Attorney, who would ALWAYS get way, way too aggressive and violent with oral, choking me, slapping/hitting HARD and leaving bruises. But... I'd suffer through because 1.) I am naturally very submissive and enjoy bdsm and 2.) he would feel bad and tip me outrageously, like 1k extra afterwards 3.) He was a nice guy and very connected. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:21 AM Flag
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If any of these guys saw you on the street would they have treated you like crap? Did they make you feel like you were less than? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:23 AM Flag
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No, I doubt it. I ran into a couple of them in real life before at the farmers market and it was normal, we said hello, nice to see you, exchanged pleasantries and went on with our days. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:44 AM Flag
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Yeah, I would want to know too. Plus, a District Attorney should not be breaking the law. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:35 AM Flag
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That's scary. Glad you're still around. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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Was the DA married? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:43 AM Flag
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I don't remember, sorry. He was handsome/built, I remember that part! The marital status of my clients wasn't really a concern of mine, I tried to keep my nose out of their business unless they chose to share those aspects of their lives with me. Discretion was good for my business. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:48 AM Flag
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I read that thread and am extremely creeped out about the Long Island Killer thing. I hope they catch him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:38 AM Flag
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Are you gorgeous? 1-10? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:12 AM Flag
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At the time, I was a solid 9, could have been a 10 if I was more strict about my weight. Since then, I've happily enjoyed putting on 50lbs :P So now I'm probably a 7. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:17 AM Flag
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Why were you a 9? Big boobs? butt or blonde hair? I guess there is no demand market for a curvy escort. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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I'm also curious about this. Can you name a model/actress that is a 9/10 for comparison? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:39 AM Flag
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Well, my hair color changed throughout my tenure. I was both blonde and brunette at various points. I'm attractive either way. I look like Shannon Doherty or Kelly Kaposki from Saved by the Bell. Classic All-American girl, with classic features. And yes, there is demand for curvy escorts, some of the girls I knew were ... not attractive and they still had good business! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:41 AM Flag
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Yes, how can one be a chubby 9? Anna Nicole Smith was a 10, but a 5 when overweight, and a 4 when fat. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:40 AM Flag
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I wouldn't say I was "chubby" I just cold have lost 10lbs. I was 120lbs ish when I was escorting, a size 4 top and size 6 bottom. But I ran marathons and was very fit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:56 AM Flag
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How old are you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:55 AM Flag
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I escorted between when I was 22-28, give or take a bit. I'm in my 30s now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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How did you meet your clients? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:24 AM Flag
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Craigslist, mostly. At two points I worked through agencies, one called Empire Club and another called Pearl Elite Escorts. Also, oddly enough... I had many "word of mouth" clients. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:32 AM Flag
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Did the escort agencies give you a bodyguard or some sort of protection on your dates? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:36 AM Flag
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We would have a "driver" who was kind of like a bodyguard. I think he carried a gun/weapon. We had to check in with him via text message after x-amount of time that the client reserved us for, otherwise he would come into the hotel room. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:51 AM Flag
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What percentage did they want for this service? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:00 AM Flag
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The agency would take care of it- I believe they would take about 40% of the overall booking. I liked working for myself more, and had the clientele to doso, so I wasn't with the agencies for very long- maybe 3 months, tops. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:08 AM Flag
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Did u ever get scared of a client? Like, did you get worried that you'll get locked up, beat, or get killed? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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I talked about it here: http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55297168 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:41 AM Flag
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She said she met the CL Killer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:36 AM Flag
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How much money have you saved? What do u do now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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Unfortunately, I saved ZERO dollars! I think it was psychological... easy come/easy go. I blew the money on frivolous things, travel, fine dining, designer wardrobe, shoes. I actually was extremely reckless with the escorting money- I think I sort of viewed it as "blood money" so made a conscientious decision that I almost wasn't worthy of saving it, because of what I did for it... does that make sense at all? Anyways, I could kick myself now about it! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:46 AM Flag
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Are you doing ok financially now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:56 AM Flag
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Eh, I'm in the middle. HHI around 250k. Nothing spectacular but decent. DH might be starting his own business, so perhaps we'll go to the moon. Perhaps I'll write a best seller about my time escorting, haha :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:07 AM Flag
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Make it a cautionary tale, please. Think of the little girls. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:11 AM Flag
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How has this affected you psychologically? Would you do it again? If you had a daughter who wanted to do it what would you think? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:17 AM Flag
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Oh, I'm sure I have psychological repercussions. I think I am a bit of a sociopath and/or a narcissist. I enjoyed the attention and never felt particularly bad about what I was doing. I would do it again, but I would be wiser about saving and banking the money. If I had a daughter wanting to do it, I wouldn't be thrilled, but would try to teach her how to protect herself and be safe doing so. I know I did it for stupid reasons, so I would hope she wouldn't have to do it out of desperation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:50 AM Flag
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I saw a young girl naively rushing out to meet her pimp from a bus station. By the look on her face I could tell she wanted to find love and attention, just beaming because she stupidly thought she found some sort of acceptance. I'm sorry she couldn't have found it to the more glamourous side. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:54 AM Flag
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Did you finish going to grad school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:18 AM Flag
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Yes, I have a professional/corporate job now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:48 AM Flag
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Do you ever run into former clients in your career? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:52 AM Flag
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+1 Do you? Seems like that would really suck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:53 AM Flag
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No- we moved to the west coast. I did get facebook friend requested by some married clients who I actually "dated" and also still get contacted by clients when they visit the west coast for bookings... but I always turn them down because I don't want to mess up my life here. But every once in while I will get texts from men from YEARS ago asking if I am available! I'm incredulous/surprised/mildly flattered but also skeeved by their memories and their ability to track me down... they are like bloodhounds on a scent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:14 AM Flag
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Did you climax? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:19 AM Flag
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Yes, sometimes, but not all the time. I'd say about 30% of the time I would climax. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:51 AM Flag
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Did anyone in your day to day life find out about it and shun you? Did you feel sort of confident like the ultimate woman among people your own age because you knew you could attract and seduce men while they were obsessing over getting guys to like them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:19 AM Flag
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Ha! Your question is so funny. No, I did not think that, but that's a riot, I wish I felt like that! I still struggled with men/people I was dating and had the typical angst over my regular relationships in my own dating life. I kept escorting private from all of my friends/family, so no one had the opportunity to shun me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:53 AM Flag
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Does anyone beside UB know??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:07 AM Flag
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No, although I guess someone from this thread could doxx me and tell everyone I know! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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That's a heavy secret to keep to yourself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:31 AM Flag
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True, but what is the point of telling anyone about it? It's in the past... I'm not sure there would be any benefit, just disturbing people and alienating them. Perhaps there would be therapeutic benefits, perhaps I should hire a therapist and tell them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:32 AM Flag
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That's what I'm getting. You have a lot to say about it. You were raped so if you hadn't dealt with that experience maybe the therapist would say it contributed a need to control sexual elements in your life. You also said you gained 50 lbs, which, if not in keeping with your family genetics could be a flag for depression. You are also staying up late talking about it after you said you had a corporate job so maybe you do want someone to talk to about it. You said you wanted to write a book also. I think you will have to talk to someone about it if you are going to publish a book. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:52 AM Flag
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Oh, I don't think I would ever actually write a book about it. I was kidding. I think the weight gain was out of happiness, laziness and having dcs. I don't control my diet at all, and dh and I are both foodies/hedonists. I might try therapy for being a sociopath/narcissist, both of which I suspect I might be. Thank you for your feedback by the way! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:08 AM Flag
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ps- am on west coast time here, so not all THAT late here, we go to bed around midnight. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:09 AM Flag
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After the Long Island Killer thing I want to give you a hug. Heck, I feel like I need a hug. I'm sorry that happened. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:51 AM Flag
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When strangers asked the "what do you do for living" question, what did you tell them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:21 AM Flag
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I would talk about graduate school, mainly! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:53 AM Flag
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Who ultimately got the green light to marry you? What kind of guy made your heart go pitter patter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:32 AM Flag
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A wonderful, handsome, kind and loving nerd. :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:54 AM Flag
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Must be a dh [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:57 AM Flag
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Are you a model? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:33 AM Flag
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Nope, I'm too petite at 5'4. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:54 AM Flag
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Did you feel guilty about the married men? Did it sour you and make you think all men cheat? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:35 AM Flag
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I became a bit myopic about married life for a while and was a big advocate of open relationships. I can see how people get sick of the standard grind and would use me to spice up their routines. DH and I have talked about opening up our relationship down the road if we are ever bored/sick of each other. But we haven't yet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:50 AM Flag
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Oh- also, I don't think "all" men cheat, but I think plenty of them do. The problem is you have to figure out which ones are cheating because they like the THRILL of having a secret and sneaking around doing something naughty, vs the ones who are cheating simply to have sex. The first type, those are the problem ones. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:03 AM Flag
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How do you think your dh would react if he found out your past? What if he was thinking of going to a hooker because your sex life became boring and he found out you were the creme of the crop for that sort of naughty encounter? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:14 AM Flag
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I don't think he would be psyched, but I think he would get over it. If he was going to a hooker and I knew, I would find one we both found attractive and give it a whirl. We've talked about opening up our relationship if we are ever bored of each other, but haven't felt the desire to doso at this point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:34 AM Flag
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Did most clients reserve a hotel room or did you go to meet at their residence? Were most clients nouveau riche or did you also see members from dynastic wealth? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:36 AM Flag
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A few truly dynastic wealth, one owner of a private equity company had made his family money during the crusades. Others- politicians, lawyers, business owners. The owner of a chain of martial arts stores. The owner of a ladder company (he was extraordinarily wealthy! probably my richest client). The CFO of Blue Cross/Blue Shield, a bunch of Goldman Sachs guys. I had bad experiences with physicians so wouldn't book that many of them as repeat clients. They were cheap, always in a rush and never fun/interesting, couldn't relax. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:05 AM Flag
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Lol @ docs [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:16 AM Flag
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Did the richest guys treat you kindly? Like a princess? How treated you the warmest and lavished you with affection and money? Did there seem to be a pattern for the richest guys treating you like a commodity? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:18 AM Flag
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*Who not how [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:18 AM Flag
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Did you ever orgasm during the escort sex? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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Yes. I posted in detail about this above, but generally about 30% of the time or so I would. Most of my regulars would have a good connection with me, we truly enjoyed each other. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:10 AM Flag
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Could you have been arrested in a sting operation? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:27 AM Flag
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Yes, sure! I never was, but I don't see why I would have been immune to being so. Although eventually most of my clients were frequents who I saw repeatedly, so I knew they were safe. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:10 AM Flag
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So, since your DH has admitted to going to escorts, you have seen how many married men visit them, and you have gained 50 lbs.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:27 AM Flag
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Maybe she got pg. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:37 AM Flag
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Either way, he's definitely visiting hookers. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:52 AM Flag
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Not as far as I am aware, although perhaps you think I am due for some poetic justice, eh? DH and I have talked about having an open relationship, I know if I ever felt the need to cheat, I'd talk to him about it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:12 AM Flag
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"I feel the need to cheat, Dh." How do you say it tactfully? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:13 AM Flag
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I'd say something like, "I'm bored with our sex life and would like to open it up. Would you be interested in having a threesome?" and see where it goes from there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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No need to be jelly. Do you see a peanut butter sandwich here? Op said she has issues from it anyway. Live vicariously [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:20 AM Flag
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Are you somehow implying that this is an enviable life? Does it sound good to you??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:14 AM Flag
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It does sound like an easier life than living paycheck to paycheck and working a dead end job, yes. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad with just a handful of really rich boyfriend regulars. The married men thing though tugs at my heart strings. It could kill their wives emotionally if they knew. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:34 AM Flag
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^^ All in all, I could have an arrangement with a rich man but not willingly if he was married. It will never happen so I'm enjoying the thread. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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I used to model and knew several girls who tried escorting. Half the men were disgusting, some were violent, a lot of drugs involved. No one made $500 to do nothing for very long. I knew a few girls who would SAY they didn't do anything, though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:33 AM Flag
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So this is someone floating an idea for an escort book and I fell for it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:58 AM Flag
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OR: No, these are my legitimate experiences, this thread only started because someone started it and asked me! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:04 AM Flag
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Well we all know this is going MP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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I think a lot of the upstate NY, NJ, or Pennsylvania women on this board have ambushed this thread because they know, were it not for some weird twist of fate, they'd be escorting as well. Props, OP, for keeping it real! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:39 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:58 AM Flag
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Did you make them wear condoms for oral? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:31 AM Flag
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No. I think that's gross, I don't like the taste! We would use condoms for sex. Like I said, I'm VERY lucky I didn't get any diseases. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:13 AM Flag
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How did the men treat you knowing they could pay you after beating you during oral? Did it seem to make them cocky? Did they treat you like an object? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:34 AM Flag
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What? That only happened with one client, and he was a regular, so I knew what I was getting into with him. Most of the men treated me with compassion, passion and respect. It would feel like a real, very excellent date with perfect chemistry. I think if things felt forced, bad, awkward or weird I would have not enjoyed so many repeat clients. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:15 AM Flag
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Do you know any mid 30ish escorts? Any mom escorts? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:39 AM Flag
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I don't, but I am sure they exist. Check out The Erotic Review and I'm sure you can find them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:15 AM Flag
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Why did you stop? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:40 AM Flag
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I grew out of it, matured, realized I could build a legitimate career and then eventually met and fell in love with dh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:16 AM Flag
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Did you grow up UC? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:44 AM Flag
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East coast, middle/upper class. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:16 AM Flag
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have you taken it up the ass? Oral anal? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:48 AM Flag
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I did anal with one client who begged me over the period of a year or so to try it with him. HI also charged him like crazy- $1500 an hour for it. He was really into it, haha. So he was the only one, although with some of my regulars they enjoyed using anal toys and rimming, both on me and me on them. I was fine with that. I enjoy anal with my regular boyfriends, but more once in a while, not all the time. But when I masturbate, I LOVE anal porn. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:18 AM Flag
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Were you sexually abused at any point in your life? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:16 AM Flag
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I was date raped during undergrad when I was black out drunk and being walked home by a male "friend" following after a sorority outing. But the drinking to that stage was very reckless on my part. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:37 AM Flag
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Of course she didn't. She didn't have to. She had the perfect escort experience, complete with 6-figures, no diseases and handsome, polite, clean, generous clients whom she hand-picked off of Craigslist and would pay her whatever she asked to do absolutely nothing if that suited her. You guys are a bunch of ding-bats if you believe any of this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:11 AM Flag
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I did it with one client, he was a self-professed anal lover. I only tried it with him because he asked me for it nicely after a long time of being a repeat client. And, everything I'm writing here is perfectly true, I've been open about the bad sides of it as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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I believe her. She's consistent with the story. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:33 AM Flag
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Oh, I have no doubt it is true, just put through a very selective filter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:42 AM Flag
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Oh ok [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:59 AM Flag
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OR: That's a very good point- and maybe I'm even unconsciously filtering it myself to only remember the good things, so I don't hate myself! But as far as I know I'm being forthcoming about everything, pros and cons. The biggest drawbacks to me at the time were dealing with booking clients through CL- dealing with flakers, guys who would email me just to get pictures or to send endless emails chatting and never wanting to book. Things got a LOT better once I had a stable of repeat clients and didn't advertise any more. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:50 AM Flag
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Did you spend a lot of time hunting for men? How many hours a week? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:05 AM Flag
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I would post an ad and get about... 50 replies or so. Then I would reply to maybe 5 of them who seemed professional and wrote well. I wouldn't reply to anyone with a stupid email account like "stud4u@hushmail.com wouldn't get a reply- someone who just said, "pics?" wouldn't get a reply. People who wrote a nice little intro/bio and told me about themselves, asked questions, seemed intelligent- I would reply to them. Then we would generally arrange to meet at a cafe near my apartment, have a coffee or a cocktail and then head upstairs. Sometimes we would meet for dinner at a restaurant or in a hotel lobby. At first, probably 10 hours a week of correspondence/booking. Eventually I narrowed it down to mainly only seeing regulars and only on one or two days a week. Emailing back and forth to set up appointments was always tedious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:14 AM Flag
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Oh- I'll also add- before I was having sex with clients and was just "escorting" on dates, one client that really was annoying managed to lead me on about things he would buy for me but never actually ponied up. I went on two or three dates with him under the impression he was this rich guy but he turned out to be a flaker and he never fulfilled his promises. That was a bad experience- and one of the reasons I started offering GFE- paying for sex seemed like a more straightforward cut and dry transaction than putting up with that sugardaddy nonsense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:06 AM Flag
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Aw really? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:36 AM Flag
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rings true to me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:50 AM Flag
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Do male escorts ever hire female escorts for a session? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:59 AM Flag
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Not sure. I've never met/encountered a male escort, as far as I know! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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Did you keep a blog? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:07 AM Flag
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No, discretion was a big part of the business. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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If the client was married, did wives ever see you out to satisfy their husbands? Did you ever meet/interact with any of the client's wives? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:18 AM Flag
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I had a threesome with a client and his wife once at their vacation home in Naples. It wasn't my favorite thing I've ever done. In fact, the trip was so awkward afterwards, the client sent me home early on a separate flight! I purposely avoided threesome bookings after that experience. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:21 AM Flag
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Were they old? Was the wife hoping you were a lesbian? Did she get mad because you hogged her husband? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:38 AM Flag
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He was in his 50s, wife was in her 40s. Wife was sexy/nice/fabulous and attractive. The sex was fine with them, it was the other parts that were awkward. When we'd be out on the boat or hanging around the house, I couldn't really relax because I felt like I was under their thumb. I don't know if she got mad or not, I continued to see the man as a client but never with her again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:45 AM Flag
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That does sound awkward. At least the sex wasn't the bad part. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:56 AM Flag
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This was a really interesting thread. Should we call you FE mom from now on? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:36 AM Flag
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Ha- sure. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:45 AM Flag
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Do you have to work tomorrow? Should you go to bed? Can you answer tomorrow? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:29 AM Flag
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Ha- yes I should go to bed, I've been staying up late all week so I have gotten into night owl hours/routine. I will try to answer more questions if anyone has them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:38 AM Flag
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Also, my dog is sitting on my feet being cute, so I am pretty happy parked here on the couch being entertained right now with all of your questions anyways :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:39 AM Flag
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Do you always use smileys? There's a poster who reacts to negative statements with smileys and niceness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:02 AM Flag
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I wouldn't say I use them always, but I use them sometimes! I'm a regular poster on here, but generally just about mom things and not escorting! I have told the story about how I think I met the Long Island Serial Killer on here before, though- a year or two ago. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:05 AM Flag
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Are you worried about being audited? They can go back 10 or more years. How does your DH think you made a living for those 7 years? And how would you explain it if they audited you and out came your multiple apartments being paid for by someone else and your $200k lifestyle but no tax trail to show for it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:35 AM Flag
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Gifts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:34 AM Flag
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Right. And how would you explain those gifts to your DH? Or did you tell him you dated rich guys who paid for everything? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:51 AM Flag
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I didn't know him during that time. He and I met later, during graduate school. It's never really come up how I supported myself during that time. He knows I had a small inheritance, too. I wouldn't think to ask HIM how he supported himself before he met me, you know? It's an odd question. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:47 AM Flag
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I'm not worried about being audited, I took classes here and there and also was supported by my parents, just not to the extent that I enjoyed- the travel, the shopping, that is what I spent the escorting on. I also received a 100k inheritance from an uncle that I blew on frivolous stuff during that time, but paid taxes on that, some of it also went through probate court. I guess anything is possible, perhaps I will be audited? I've been good filing my taxes every year for the recent past! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 05:50 AM Flag
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Did a client ever reject you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:10 AM Flag
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No. I had one send me home early from a rendezvous on a trip, but he stayed a client and booked again. I had plenty of flakers who didn't show up, though! And one paid me in fake money... oh also one client wrote me a bad check and then disappeared. I learned not to take checks after that. He was a physician at Weills Cornell, probably part of the reason I hated taking physicians as clients. I was so pissed I entertained contacting him at work to get the $$. But I never did. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:21 AM Flag
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Alright, questions seemed to have died down. I'm heading to bed, will check back tomorrow if anyone else posts. Thanks everyone, this was interesting, I hadn't thought about a lot of these things for years. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 06:44 AM Flag
[ - ] Food here. Any questions? Talk to me. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Carbs or protein? [ Reply | More ]
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Protein: Eat me! Carbs: Eat me before a race. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:57 AM Flag
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I love you but you're making my ass bigger than I'd like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:52 AM Flag
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We need to see less of each other. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:57 AM Flag
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We need to break up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 03:54 AM Flag
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I'm afraid you will die. [ Reply | More ]
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We're too co-dependent. I need to find new foods to hang out with that won't make me feel so badly about myself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:10 AM Flag
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You'll be back. Stellaaa! [ Reply | More ]
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I'm gonna start hanging out at the salad bar instead of the hot bar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.31.14, 04:03 AM Flag
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Fine, be that way. You're gonna miss me when I'm gone. [ Reply | More ]
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am pig? [ Reply | More ]
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Pig: snort. [ Reply | More ]
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Chinese? [ Reply | More ]
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