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[ - ] DCs school doesn't want children to have access the refrigerator. I am torn on how to send yogurt or cheese to school. Any tips? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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put it in the lunchbox? [ Reply | More ]
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This, wtf? [ Reply | More ]
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Ice packs that go underneath lunch. I use my old Mandela breastpump ice packs. A cup of yogurt would tuck nicely under one actually. [ Reply | More ]
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Didn't know Nelson Mandela made breastpumps [ Reply | More ]
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Ba dum bum [ Reply | More ]
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Op: Thanks. I was under the impression that the ice pack may not hold well till noon hence refrained. Will try it [ Reply | More ]
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Are you indian by any chance? [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] AUSTRALIANS! PLEASE HELP. How much do you pay in taxes annually? Canadians, I hear you actually pay a smaller percentage of taxes. Please set these people straight. You don't pay 45% or even 35% in taxes, do you? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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and remember, we also subsidize medicine costs all around the world because we do the research here but cannot enforce patents/price caps outside the country. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:21 AM Flag
[ - ] any of you idiots watch tyler perry movies? his madea character specifically uses BELTS, not even switches, on wayward children characters. she also lavishes them with love, praise and affection. he said madea was a tribute to his mother and grandmother, whom he loved. he said they were the type of strong role models who'd beat you if you misbehaved but would make sure you had an ambulance to the hospital afterwards. obv, it was tongue in cheek. but he never believed it was abuse and he never turned to a life of crime. he also happens to have a very strong sense of morality and doing right. you guys just make up your own crap and go with it when the stats and data say otherwise. 46 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:55 AM Flag
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Ok [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:46 AM Flag
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Nice "stats and data" there. My sweet little grandmother used the terms "wetbacks" and "Japs." Regardless of her doting and biscuits and crochet techniques, she was rather racist. I won't follow suit. And my biscuits suck. [ Reply | More ]
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And her being racist renders all her positive attributes null and void? The founding fathers of America owned slaves. Newton, as well as basically all scientists, thought women were incapable of logic and higher thought. Should we not learn science or history or follow the Constitution because the men who founded those things were bigots? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:54 AM Flag
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No, but my perceptions of her are marred by this disturbing facet of her character. And despite her loving ways with me, I will never be in step with this side of her. The same goes for the beloved switch. It's antiquated and a crude method of discipline. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:10 AM Flag
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Your free to do as you wish. Be aware, though, that you're just being reactionary and there is no basis for the belief that all forms of spanking are detrimental to human development. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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^^ You're for grammar sticklers [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:21 AM Flag
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Tyler Perry movies are statistics? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:51 AM Flag
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin28.htm not the researchers state that there are no other actual statistical or empirical studies validating the commonly spouted belief spanking is psychologically or developmentally damaging. it's all just people opining personally. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:10 AM Flag
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Do you speak English? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:11 AM Flag
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lol, i looked at that source and literally started laughing. you're cute. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:11 AM Flag
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you do realize elizabeth owens, despite her being cited in the religious website, is an actual psychologist and professor at UC Berkeley? this is what i love about crazy people. they are so itching to discredit sources, they don't follow the link to the primary source cited. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:02 AM Flag
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Yeah, we're the crazy ones. I looked through the sources for a second, the one you are referencing is a meta-analysis that makes several different conclusions. For your once "source" (which doesn't come close to anything you are trying to say) there are a 100 studies that show the damages of abuse. [ Reply | More ]
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uh, do you not understand stat? it is not a meta-analysis. the researchers studied these families themselves. the conclusion is that if you come short of throttling your child, the child is not harmed. so where are your 100 studies? [ Reply | More ]
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yeah, that is my citation. where is yours? are you brain damaged? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:21 AM Flag
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Pretty much every single study shows that this type of abuse leads to violent kids. You can google this, genius. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:51 AM Flag
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yeah, google it. i showed my link. [ Reply | More ]
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Yeah, your data is bullshit and comes from a meaningless source. [ Reply | More ]
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elizabhe owns, phd, university of california berkeley professor is bullshit? [ Reply | More ]
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Can you read? [ Reply | More ]
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apparently not, do point out where my illiteracy comes into play. are these researchers not professors are uc berkeley? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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Then the studies are flawed - Koreans beat their kids mercilessly, but that community has extremely low crime. The Chinese, too, to some extent. [ Reply | More ]
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You don't understand science, do you? [ Reply | More ]
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I understand "confounding factors," and how they can invalidate certain results. [ Reply | More ]
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that's really rich. pp points out a flaw in your argument so now she doesn't understand science? [ Reply | More ]
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do they really beat them? it's probably just switches, right? they cannot be punching their children and crap. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:13 AM Flag
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and your intelligence is very much on display by your use of movies as data... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:52 AM Flag
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i did not say the movie was data. i said your beliefs are not based on data/science. but i did provide a link later that shows spankings do not cause harm. http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin28.htm [ Reply | More ]
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the more you post the more idiotic you look. [ Reply | More ]
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you are the idiot if you can't follow the link to the primary source. but that's about what i expect. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:03 AM Flag
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Oh honey, I'm from above. I looked at that. I would certainly advise that you read the original source material before you blather that around in hopes of supporting your cause- as it doesn't come close to saying anything you are claiming. Also, you seem to think one meta-analysis from a single source means all that much in comparison to a million other sources. Smart, real smart. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:20 AM Flag
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oh, i did, sweetie. you seem to not have taken any stat because it is not a meta-analysis. it might be a single source but you haven't even got that. all you've got is, "a million other sources" not one of which you can link here. you're kinda embarrassing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:28 AM Flag
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i'm sorry your parents hit you. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 Also, they apparently withheld you from school. [ Reply | More ]
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yet, i can cite scientific research backing my claim whereas you guys just keep saying "all research says blah, blah, blah. google it yourself." i am afraid schooling failed you. [ Reply | More ]
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Hey, at least I graduated. I'm not going to bother to source it because this isn't something you have to dig to find. This is very rudimentary knowledge. It would be like explaining the order of the alphabet. [ Reply | More ]
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oh, i see. you're not going to bother to cite sources because it is so rudimentary and easy to find. i repeat, schooling has completely failed you. and by the rules of debate, you are the losah in this argument. [ Reply | More ]
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i'm sorry you have ill behaved, entitled children. [ Reply | More ]
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Far from it. [ Reply | More ]
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the crazies come out at night. oh boy. [ Reply | More ]
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Wow, this site has gone downhill. People like you would have never been here a few years ago, this sucks. [ Reply | More ]
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i'm afraid i have been here more than a few years. touche! [ Reply | More ]
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your study doesn't actually come to the conclusion you think it does, fyi. [ Reply | More ]
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so what does it conclude? [ Reply | More ]
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there should be an iq test to enter this site. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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yet, all you brainiacs cannot post one scientific study that concludes spanking is harmful. i am afraid under your directions, you would be sorrily dismissed from this site. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:24 AM Flag
[ - ] "...yes, if you don't have money, you won't survive some medical conditions that rich people do. it happens all around the world. that's why people work hard to make money." - And you guys call ME a troll. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:43 AM Flag
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We were talking about the middle class. What is wrong with the American way of thinking? American way of life used to be honorable. Not screw everyone else, me, me, me. [ Reply | More ]
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Why is that trolling? It's true. There are medical treatments that only work for about 1/4 of the affected cases. Yet, they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Drug companies do not operate to be a charity. They have to make a profit. How can they make a profit if it has to either dole it out free or healthcare is mandated to "afford" it to everybody to the point where no one can afford insurance? Do you think all the American medical technology and treatments are available all over Europe? They aren't. Europe might have universal healthcare, but their universal coverage is totally different from our private insurance model. Plus, the middle class shoulders the burden, not the rich, because there aren't enough rich people to go around to cover everybody. Wake up and smell the coffee. [ Reply | More ]
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You are a preeminent troll extraordinaire. [ Reply | More ]
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I am a troll because there are medical treatments proven to work for only 1/4 of the affected cases and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars? How do you think we got into this healthcare mess? Do you think it's because "greedy insurance companies" just don't want to provide services? [ Reply | More ]
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At least it's her own words and not a cut and paste of a tv show quote seven times or the same link over and over and over again. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Looks like the moderators showed up!!! Yay!!! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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nothing from my vantage point. [ Reply | More ]
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those were worthy of police involvement , absolutely sick [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Is Oscar the Grouch a virgin? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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[ - ] So this explains violence in the lower income black community (in part)? The children are desensitized and traumatized by the abuse of parents. 25 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Yup. Basically. [ Reply | More ]
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They don't learn how to communicate effectively. I'm not talking about consequences. Of course there needs to be consequences. But clearly this method isn't working. Oh and someone could get killed. [ Reply | More ]
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Kids are killed because of this all the time. [ Reply | More ]
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you're an idiot. kids who are killed do not start out with switches. switches hurt but they do not harm the child in a deep sort of way like punching and kicking, or even beating with a stick, do. switches, i imagine, are for parents trying to instill discipline. [ Reply | More ]
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"instilling discipline" lol [ Reply | More ]
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it would make sense, i went to a majority black middle school and i never quite grasped how easily and without thought the black students would cause others pain and receive hits. it must be awful to be raised like that. [ Reply | More ]
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no, there used to be more whoppings among blacks families in the early 20th century and less dumbass violence/crime. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, they are also brainwashed by thug hip-hop culture which promotes violence and illegal activities. [ Reply | More ]
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Discipline =\= abuse. [ Reply | More ]
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people here are all lib-tards and can't handle anyone deviating from their pseudo-reality. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm not even liberal, I just have an IQ over 90 and a civilized mind. [ Reply | More ]
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bullshit. you voted romney last time around? [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, I did. Although he wouldn't have been my pick by any measure, it was change and had to better than Obama. I usually vote straight republican unless there is a particular dem I support. [ Reply | More ]
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suuuure. [ Reply | More ]
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'lib tards' [ Reply | More ]
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Science shows that abuse breeds violence.... [ Reply | More ]
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don't bother, she probably believes that science is a myth and evolution is libtard propaganda. [ Reply | More ]
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so let's see your scientific research, not just some idiot spouting off his OPINION, backing your claim. [ Reply | More ]
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uh, no. science shows that spanking does breed deviance of any sort. http://www.nospank.net/cnn.htm [ Reply | More ]
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^^ does not [ Reply | More ]
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What AP did was abuse. [ Reply | More ]
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it wasn't abuse but it was inappropriate for such a young child. [ Reply | More ]
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np - ITA. [ Reply | More ]
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sure.. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, it was abuse legally and morally. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] what did you pack for DC's lunch today? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Grilled cheese in whole wheat bread, yogurt, grapes, Belvita breakfast biscuits and water. [ Reply | More ]
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Sesame chicken/white rice, water, baby carrots, and crackers. [ Reply | More ]
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Leftover Happy Meal. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Poll: where did you find your afterschool nanny? Need to start looking for a new one, I fear :( 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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what's an after school nanny? [ Reply | More ]
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Someone who picks kid up from preschool and watches her till I get home [ Reply | More ]
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What's wrong with the one you have now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:10 AM Flag
[ - ] I'm looking for a NYC public high school with strong academics and a strong track team for my dd, and the choices seem so limited. Specialized like Bronx Sci and Stuy are good, but that's about it as far as girls track goes. How is Townsend Harris? Anyone with experience? ElRo was on our list but their track program is weak. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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i'm not discouraging you but i swear this would have been all on me when i was in middle/hs. [ Reply | More ]
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She is determined to go to a specialized school, but we need other schools to fill out the application! And you can't just leave it up to one test. Athletic boys have so many more options, it seems [ Reply | More ]
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I researched Townsend Harris and it looks like an AMAZING school. Very tough to get into. Not a specialized. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] please help me find a better way. I work less than part-time and have one DC in preschool 9-3. DH works late hours and unavailable during the week. We have a house cleaner come every other week. I feel just absolutely exhausted all the time. What am I doing wrong here? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Sometimes the exhausting part is constantly switching gears. I was actually better able to focus when I worked full time in an office. Part time, I jump from thing to thing. Overwhelms the brain! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:23 AM Flag
[ - ] I work in the juvenile detention (juvenile jail) in a major US city and the majority of the teens I see have been "disciplined" in ways even worse than what Adrian Peterson did to his child. Doesn't make it right, of course, but the sanctimonious reaction by the media, NFL, etc., does nothing to address the prevalence of such abuse. 70 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Meh, I had my stint juvie + my mother had an abusive boyfriend. Leaving marks like that? Yeah, it wasn't a one time thing... [ Reply | More ]
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^Not that I expect more from an official in the juvenile system. [ Reply | More ]
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Not sanctimonious actually. More like justifiable outrage. And AP was beaten by his crminal dad, so just look the other way and let his kids get beaten and end up dead or in prison? No. [ Reply | More ]
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But it sheds light and brings about discourse, which is good. [ Reply | More ]
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There was a 12-year-old in my hometown who shot his dad in the face and killed him, and was initially arrested for murder. Then he was released without charge after the investigation turned up the extent to which he had been abused, including hidden burn injuries. But his story didn't end well; he OD'd in his early 20's while homeless. [ Reply | More ]
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Black mom here. I think it was terrible what he did, but I don't think he is a monster. I got beatings as I child (and to be honest i probably deserved most of them) so I understand. However I was never beat to the point my skin was broken or bleeding. Way too much for a 4 yr old. [ Reply | More ]
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Anybody who beats a child who is that young is very much a monster, and I have a black father. He would have never touched us like that. [ Reply | More ]
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Oh come on, he's not a "monster." He gave the kid a whoopin'. First of all, we have no idea what behavior the kid had been demonstrating in order to provoke the incident in the first place. I'm saying that we need way more facts before making judgments here. [ Reply | More ]
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Anybody who beats a child that young is a monster, making the kid bleed? There is nothing the child could have done that would make this acceptable behavior. [ Reply | More ]
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exactly, he is FOUR. [ Reply | More ]
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He hit the kid with a switch, which is more liable to cause small lacerations/bleeding than other forms of spanking. But that's not directly related to the viciousness/force of the discipline. For example, if you accidentally brush your arm across a blackberry thicket, you might suddenly have a bunch of scratches that bleed a lot, but don't cause a great deal of pain, because they are superficial. If you get struck with a heavy pipe, you might not have any visible external bleeding at all, if the skin remains intact, but the damage underneath could be very severe and extremely painful. [ Reply | More ]
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Stop making excuses. [ Reply | More ]
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Apparently the 4 YO pushed another kid away from a video game so he could have more time on it. No one was hurt. [ Reply | More ]
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Whoopin' makes it sound like a casual thing, which it isn't at all in the child's mind. [ Reply | More ]
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^^ way too much for anyone of course, but esp a child that young. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:04 AM Flag
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Physical punishment is very prevalent and acceptable in the black community. They perceive it as a form of teaching dc to respect and obide. Whenever I see a white, bratty dc throwing tantrums in public, there are often 2 or 3 AA giving the parent a dirty look as to say "if you spanked his behind, he wouldn't be embarrassing you in public right now". [ Reply | More ]
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Ah, I saw this coming from the above comment. Go away, obsessive race mom. [ Reply | More ]
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? i certainly don't remember this from my childhood? [ Reply | More ]
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I assume you come from an umc, educated AA family. The majority of lower class AA spank and believe that lack of punishment is worse than excessiveness. [ Reply | More ]
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Not really, we were middle class. Nothing special. My parents spanked on very rare occasions but they never left a mark, my parents would be horrified by this. [ Reply | More ]
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OR from above. This is not true. I grew up in a MC-UMC area of PA and getting spankings as a kid was pretty common. Have to remember that many AA migrated from the South and that's a old school tradition. There's even a saying 'spare the rod, spoil the child' [ Reply | More ]
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That "saying" is from the Bible. [ Reply | More ]
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Well there you have it. If it's a bible you know it's true! ;) [ Reply | More ]
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Sorry not OR, first black mom above [ Reply | More ]
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Black mom from above, it's definitely a cultural thing. I won't defend the guy but I don't think bc you beat your child that you're a monster. My mom got beat with lilac switches when she was a child. Her and her brothers had to go out and pick them out before they got beat. [ Reply | More ]
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Same in Hispanic communities. We share stories of getting spanked with sandals and being chased by our parents with A broom. [ Reply | More ]
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La chancla! Hilarious video on YouTube. [ Reply | More ]
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And maybe that's why they end up in juvenile detention? [ Reply | More ]
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Yes! Who could live with such turmoil? That kind of trauma affects the brain I'm convinced. [ Reply | More ]
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Black teens are often very respectable of their parents. They may rebel in other ways, but you rarely see a black dc talking back or slamming doors. I am not saying physical punishment is effective in the long run, but it's a fact that different cultures do things differently. [ Reply | More ]
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Perhaps. But does that explain the school behavior? The way the students talk to the teachers is beyond imaginable. [ Reply | More ]
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And I can understand why they behave that way. Not excusing it, but they are traumatized. [ Reply | More ]
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That's the point. Abuse breeds violence. - np from below. [ Reply | More ]
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they go out and join gangs, deal drugs, become parents at 14yo, but they aren't "disrespectful"? talking back and slamming doors aren't the only ways to be disrespectful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:18 AM Flag
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^^ those are the ones that didn't get beat [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:19 AM Flag
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And yet, they do worse in school, disrespect their teachers, are violent, etc? Studies show abuse breeds violence, perhaps it is evident in the black community. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:19 AM Flag
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Black mom. They used to be. When I was growing up we would never dream of cursing in front of/at an adult. My mom and best friends are teachers and they say it is just out of control. My mom got called a fat bitch by a third grader. Now you ask me, THAT child needs a whoopin!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:22 AM Flag
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NO. That child needs to respect their elders in non violent ways. The child will hold MORE resentment to the teacher for "causing" that punishment. That's how they interpret it. "If my teacher didn't get me in trouble I wouldn't have gotten hit." Trust me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:27 AM Flag
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Well yes of course. But let my teacher mom have heard I called a teacher a fat bitch. Not only would I have gotten my ass tore up and been on punishment for at least 2 weeks with no allowance, video game etc. Old school black moms do not play that shit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:31 AM Flag
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That's fear. You can bring about any behavior you want by instilling fear. But that's not what's in the best interest of the child nor is it what will promote emotionally healthy adults. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:29 AM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:18 AM Flag
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I'm having a major flashback to High School and an epiphany. One of my closest friends was African American and in the summer he wouldn't wear shorts in the heat. I couldn't understand why he felt the need to do that. He wouldn't go in the pool or anything. In passing he made a comment about corporal punishment and it being the norm in the community. When I think back on it, I do remember seeing marks on the lower parts of his legs. I am convinced he had scars and that's why he wouldn't wear shorts. I can't believe I never realized this or at least questioned it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 02:58 AM Flag
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When did race become a part of this conversation??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:14 AM Flag
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He brought it up. This kind of punishment was the norm in his community. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:15 AM Flag
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Hey look, my dad hit my thigh so hard it left a hand print for waaaay longer than necessary. Till this DAY I have no clue what I did. I think he was drunk. But it was one time. I still get panic attacks when I think about it. It's not a race thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:05 AM Flag
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Veal child turned veal adult [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:18 AM Flag
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+1. Panic attack because of ONE incident. It was a handprint ffs! He didn't burn you or rape you. Veal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:08 AM Flag
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He violently hit me. Would you like someone to hit YOU? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:11 AM Flag
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Ah! I hadn't read the statements yet, I just saw the pictures. In my family (strictly religious) this (and spousal abuse) is very common, doesn't make it justifiable in any way, shape, or form- they should set an example with him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:18 AM Flag
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are you fucking kidding me? people all over the world wear long pants during summer. and black people very frequently just don't swim. it's not their sport. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:24 AM Flag
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Also he could have been in an accident or gotten burned really bad as a child and was self conscious. Doesn't automatically mean he was abused. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:26 AM Flag
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Ok. You are all correct. He wasn't abused even though he told me he was. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:32 AM Flag
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You didn't say that in your original comment. You said he mentioned something in passing. Changing the story now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:33 AM Flag
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makes a lot more sense than a teenage boy being self-conscious about scars on his legs. boys don't give a shit about things like that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:29 AM Flag
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Those marks were horrible, and when they did an investigation they went through and found scars all over the kid's body. The other son was abused too. Can you justify this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:16 AM Flag
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Lisa Steinberg. All the signs were there. No one did anything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:08 AM Flag
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who? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:10 AM Flag
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Google is your friend. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:12 AM Flag
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totally different. you are insane. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:29 AM Flag
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Why would they want to treat their children the way the masters treated the slaves? I don't want this comment to cause a riot, but I don't get it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:21 AM Flag
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4yo is too young for switches. but kids need discipline. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:38 AM Flag
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You're confusing discipline with beating. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:51 AM Flag
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OP: I guess when I commented on the "sanctimony" it was because people are so appalled at the violence in families (Peterson and Ray Rice) but don't seem to connect that these same men are being paid millions of dollars to essentially physically pummel other people. Football is a very violent sport and it is naive to think that there wouldn't be an overlap in people reared in violence and those who pursue a violent sport. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:22 AM Flag
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That's a slippery slope. Correlation doesn't equal causation. There are plenty of white men that play football. Hell, hockey is pretty much all white people and fighting is basically part of the sport. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:37 AM Flag
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This has nothing to do with the sport. It is mostly a cultural issue. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:26 AM Flag
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If we had more ass whoopings there would be less teenage trolls on this board. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:40 AM Flag
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i agrees [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:32 AM Flag
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and yet, the black culture (which has 'ass whoopings') has far more violent and obscene children. facts don't lie. science shows every time that abuse doesn't work. are you dull? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:54 AM Flag
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when there was more ass whooping, there was less violence. face facts. i want to see some science and facts, too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:26 AM Flag
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np. None of this is politically correct. Black teens have a lot more testosterone than Asian teens. Testosterone causes teens to do crazy shit. That is why having a loving dad to administer punishment is a good thing for black teens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:36 AM Flag
[ - ] did anybody see the mockingjay trailer? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 02:53 AM Flag
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yes, it seemed decent, but the third book sucked. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 02:53 AM Flag
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au contraire. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 04:05 AM Flag
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No, I would never read (nor watch) that filth. What type of example are you setting for your children? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 02:54 AM Flag
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It is solid fiction. Have you read Roots? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 02:58 AM Flag
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You don't have to eat it or even like it, but it's hardly filth. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.16.14, 03:09 AM Flag
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