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[ - ] BRCA testing? Have you done it/will you? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:06 PM Flag
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There is no breast or ovarian cancer in my family, so no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:07 PM Flag
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Did it, have it. [ Reply | More ]
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Did you test the kids? [ Reply | More ]
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oh wow. What happens next? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:09 PM Flag
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BRCA1? or 2? [ Reply | More ]
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BRCA1? or 2? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:12 PM Flag
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no, big history of breast cancer in my family but my mom tested as negative for that particular gene. [ Reply | More ]
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My friend did it. Three previous women in her family line developed breast cancer and she's been diagnosed with it, but she tested negative for the gene. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:10 PM Flag
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yes. BC survivor here, also mom diagnosed after me, but no BRCA gene. [ Reply | More ]
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yes. BC survivor here, also mom diagnosed after me, but no BRCA gene. [ Reply | More ]
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^oops [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] 3 of my kids are out of college and self-supporting. They are all very educated and successful. I'm quite proud. However, I have an issue with my dh constantly bragging about them. Whenever we meet a new couple our age, his first question is "what are their kids doing?" He loves hearing that their kids are "doing worse" (whatever that means) than ours. It's very annoying. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:04 PM Flag
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Is your dh retired? [ Reply | More ]
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Op. Yes, semi retired. But I should add, he never had much of a career to begin with. [ Reply | More ]
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Gee, you sound supportive. If you raised three such "very educated and successful" kids, I guess he didn't do too badly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:12 PM Flag
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Why not? [ Reply | More ]
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entirely transparent and very pathetic [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:09 PM Flag
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What is doing worse? Is working at an art gallery worse than working at Google? Is going to grad school worse than self supporting? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:10 PM Flag
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It's normal. [ Reply | More ]
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oopf, that's embarrassing. have you spoken to DH about this issue? [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Favorite Disney princess and why? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Not Belle. What is the lesson of Beauty and the Beast except to delude little girls that you really can change a man with your love? [ Reply | More ]
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^ Not Cinderella or Snow White either. The main takeaway: Marry well to escape a life of housework. [ Reply | More ]
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^ Then there's Rapunzel: Flynn is a thief, but he's not a bad guy! Just misunderstood. Permitting a generation of young girls to bring home douchey boyfriends that supposedly have a hidden good side. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:09 PM Flag
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^ I did like Tiana. And Sleeping Beauty wasn't too annoying either. Mulan was decent. I'm actually not anti-Disney at all... my DD knows all the princess movies by heart. But when you look at them objectively, some of the stories are cringe-worthy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:10 PM Flag
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That looks don't matter, it is what's inside that counts. Duh [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:08 PM Flag
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but hey, I forgot this is NYC..... [ Reply | More ]
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No way. Belle's lesson was it's not important what the guy looks like, as long as he has a palace he owns [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:12 PM Flag
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I loved Belle the most when I was young because she was a bookworm and turned down that dbag Gaston. The Beast had to change himself to be worthy of her love and win her over. She had a lot more agency than earlier princesses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:13 PM Flag
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Malificent: the way she chained up the prince in her dungeon could have taught Cerci Lannister a few things. [ Reply | More ]
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Technically not a princess, but Mulan. Courageous, helps her family, an is a good friend. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Favorite Disney princess and why? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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[ - ] My six year old has been asking about Skylanders and Pokemon toys. From the little I know I am not a fan of either. Does anyone have any thoughts around either of these toys and their appropriateness for a six year old. Thnx 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:57 PM Flag
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They are fine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:58 PM Flag
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OP: What is the basic premise of Skylanders? Both seem like they require a lot time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:00 PM Flag
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With skylanders I think it's a Wii game and each skylander hero that you plug into the game lets you play as that character. Or something like that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:07 PM Flag
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but expensive! [ Reply | More ]
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My little nephews love the hell out of those, and their moms are all pretty helicopter-y. They are everywhere. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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all a scam though. you'll have to keep buying and buying and buying [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:02 PM Flag
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I also have a 6yo DS. Both are too violent imo. He's allowed to watch rescue bots, and he likes trash pack toys [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:04 PM Flag
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Are you a fan of strategy games? The Pokemon card game is crazy-good at teaching strategy and is actually fun for kids and adults. Learning it will take an hour or two of investment (there's a video online), but totally worth it if you like playing games with your kids. You can just buy two "starter decks" to use. [ Reply | More ]
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My boys were total Pokemon kids, both at excellent colleges now. [ Reply | More ]
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direct him towards minecraft.... [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Special needs mom: just venting but state testing annoys the hell out of me. My son is in third grade. He was held back once already. With intervention last year(outside of school) he learned how to read, but he is still only level M. He is doing first grade math. Why should I subject him to these tests which everyone knows he will fail without a doubt? I know he's below average and probably always will be. Why would he take a third grade math test when he's learning 1st grade math at school?? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:49 PM Flag
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Yuck, I'm sorry. :( [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:50 PM Flag
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I mean the US system is just so screwed up! Obviously my kid needs "tracking". He's in a special Ed classroom. And the same standard is often held to kids who can't read at all! Just makes zero sense to me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:52 PM Flag
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or: yeah, I hear you. It's insane how messed up our education system is, especially with SN kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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^^^it's stuff like you're experiencing AND it's the fight you have to have to get any kind of services for your kid. My parents had to raise hell to get anything for my brother. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:00 PM Flag
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Op: I need to see if any organizations are fighting to lower standards for SN kids. Or alternate testing. My Ds would actually do ok (very average or below average) on a test for a lower grade level. He has a better chance of guessing correct answers at third grade level. And if he fails, school will hold him back. I don't know what to do anymore. He obviously needs a different school environment I guess? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:04 PM Flag
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+1 It is utter insanity. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:54 PM Flag
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The math test is really hard too. I have been helping my nephew who also has processing disorders. It takes me 20-30 min to teach him the concepts necessary for each question. I make him prove why each answer choice is wrong though. There's no way my son who can't add 7+8 easily has a chance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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Can you tell the school that you won't allow your son to sit for the test? Sounds like it will be a waste of his time (and might even make him feel bad) and won't reveal any useful or actionable information. I'd call in sick for the days of the testing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:53 PM Flag
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This is absolutely an option I am considering. It hurts the school's ratings when kids don't take the test though. But this needs to be addressed on a state and national level. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:54 PM Flag
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FWIW, I wouldn't allow the impact on the school's reputation be a factor, particularly if it came at the expense of my DC. It's a ridiculous policy to have SN kids take the same test--it doesn't help the school and it certainly doesn't help the kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:01 PM Flag
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Calling in sick isn't the same as officially refusing the test. I understand kids will have to do a makeup if out sick. Opt out & make a political point at the same time. Some people are spreading false information that opting out hurts districts. Not true. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:09 PM Flag
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can you put him in private? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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You mean a private SN school? I'm not sure his disabilities are severe enough to win a case against the doe and we can't afford it. He likes school and has friends. I do a lot with him at home. We might consider homeschooling and adding in private tutors with SN experience. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:03 PM Flag
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NP-I would seriously consider this. [ Reply | More ]
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simple, just opt out and cut the drama. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:05 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More ]
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You think it's ok? I've been told repeatedly by the school I cannot do this. I know I can...but I guess I just need to hear from an unbiased source that i need to keep him home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:07 PM Flag
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you should definitely opt out. I also would not homeschool him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:12 PM Flag
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i doubt you would be the only one, it is your right. [ Reply | More ]
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you can opt out can't you? [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Brother and his family coming to visit. I am stressed. We're having a major renovation that is going on right now. I want to cry. I hate the idea of hosting everyone when my entire house is in shambles. Kids have spring break this week and I'm already to strangle them and it's only day 1. Any advice on how to stay calm and not lose it? 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:43 PM Flag
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why did you invite them [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:47 PM Flag
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They booked after Christmas and as can be expected, my renovation has taken longer than expected. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:47 PM Flag
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So disinvite them, for goodness sake. Why are people on UB so unable to handle basic problems? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:50 PM Flag
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now this is NOT a helpful answer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:51 PM Flag
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people seem to bring problems upon themselves [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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wine [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:46 PM Flag
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what time doesn't scream alcoholic? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:47 PM Flag
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It's 5 o clock somewhere! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:49 PM Flag
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Anytime after noon on weekdays. On weekends, anything goes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:49 PM Flag
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As soon as they arrive, nicely lay down ground rules. Which parts of the house are strictly off limits because of the renovations. What's expected in terms of neatness, laundry, cooking, noise levels. Get your brother and SIL on board with the rules and then set the tone for the week and try to relax and laugh about it. If you play it right it'll become "the week we all had a great time together." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:50 PM Flag
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This is helpful, thank you. They'll be here in an hour (so impossible to cancel). I'll start planning right now! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:56 PM Flag
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ask them to leave early and come again when the renov are done. or do you have a sib or cousin who will host the. or someone who will lend their house in the neighborhood while they are going somewhere else? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:51 PM Flag
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Just cancel! [ Reply | More ]
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This happened to me the year we renovated - everyone came for Christmas. If you can't re-schedule, and that might not be possible for them, then tell them in advance that things are going to be somewhat chaotic, and that they may need to adjust expectations (maybe no huge family dinners, get organized more quickly and get going in the morning for activities, etc). Keep a sense of humor and know it's really for a very short period of time. I was so stressed when it happened to me, but my family remembers fondly the year we ate Christmas Eve pizza with the plumbers! Let go of perfection and enjoy the moment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:58 PM Flag
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^^fondly remember [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:58 PM Flag
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go to a few restorative yoga classes. It really helps me! I go everyday when I'm having a real hard week... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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Hotel dummy [ Reply | More ]
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book them a hotel or Airbnb [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:06 PM Flag
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Do they know you're still in the midst of the renovations? If not, you should let them know the state of the house and see if they still want to come. They may not enjoy living in that and be open to changing the time... [ Reply | More ]
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Oops, sorry, just saw that their visit is starting now. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] 5 yo DS just started playing on a rec soccer team. He is absolutely terrible at it to the point of embarrassment (when the ball comes he just looks at it and won't kick it, or he backs away). Other parents on the sidelines actually laughed at him this weekend. He was the worst on the field by far - and some of these kids are clearly really good. Should we just not take him back? Every week it gets worse and worse. He is good at other things, but soccer is obviously not his forte. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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How does he feel about it [ Reply | More ]
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:45 PM Flag
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This was my brother. Just pull him out and let him get on with other things in life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:42 PM Flag
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This. I'm sorry, OP. I've seen cases where parents force sports on their child and it's uncomfortable for everyone...especially the child. I have a friend that was a division 1 soccer superstar in college and couldn't wait for his son to start playing in the rec league. The son hated it, was miserable and hasn't played since. However, he's an amazing mountain biker! GL! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:50 PM Flag
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My kid is the star of his team (6 yo). You want to know the secret? He's in the Backyard every afternoon, playing ball with his older siblings. On weekends, dh takes them all to the school field and they play soccer together. It's a matter of repetition. Can you or dh practice with him? Make it a fun thing and then go get an ice cream cone afterwards. Don't put too much pressure, but get him out there practicing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:42 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:43 PM Flag
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Same for my DD. [ Reply | More ]
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Backyards. Ice cream cones. What is this, 1955? [ Reply | More ]
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burbs '55 babe [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:48 PM Flag
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ITA with this. The 10,000 hours thing. My dc plays baseball but practices constantly and goes to a baseball day camp all summer every summer. He is an excellent baseball player--better than you might guess given that he has good but not great athletic talent. He is now 12, and it's interesting to see that some of the players who had great athletic ability at age 6 but who never bothered to practice hard because they think it's boring or think they are too good for it are falling off while my dc is still on an upward trajectory. One mom of a dc like this condescendingly told me she thought the camp my dc attends, which puts a lot of emphasis on drills and fundamentals, was far too "babyish" for her little superstar. Check back with me in a couple of years, I felt like saying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:52 PM Flag
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Does he like it? If not, I'd pull him out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:45 PM Flag
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He is 5 and the only way to learn is to practice. Now is the time. I am sure the other parents were laughing in a "how cute" way, not "get that player out of here" Yankee stadium jeers. Most 5 year olds are like this, if he is having fun and isn't crying then let him play [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:46 PM Flag
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You've just described my 5yo son at basketball. The question is- how does he feel about it? I know we feel embarrassed but it's our job to support our kids no matter what. DS should never know how you feel and it's not ok for other parents to laugh at him. Are you tacitly giving them permission to laugh at ds because of your embarrassment? 5 seems to be a turning point age for boys- some are physically mature and great at sports and some aren't there yet. It will happen for your son, he's just not there yet. The point is to keep trying, to keep developing, and keep having fun. As long as he is comfortable going, I say keep him in. He may not even realize how terrible he is so pulling him out just gives him the message that he's not good and should quit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:46 PM Flag
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If he likes it, leave him. The kids that are good will move on to more competitive programs soon and I'm sure he will improve with some practice. Rec leagues are for everyone. And have him practice a little if he wants to. Not knowing what to do when the ball comes to him is normal for 5 [ Reply | More ]
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He's 5. Half of them are out there not even sure of what team they're on. [ Reply | More ]
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Haha I suspect this to be true. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:56 PM Flag
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this. wtf. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:59 PM Flag
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Lol, this was my ds, he eventually went to college for football! Crazy. Never would have thought. For some kids, it definitely takes a little longer to click. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:50 PM Flag
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DH here. My DS has played baseball since he was 4.5. Now he's 8. Up until he was 6 he could not field or throw. He liked putting in the uniform and being with other kids. I should mention he is also SN. Sometime near his 7th birthday it clicked. He went from showing up to being passionate. He has practices a lot (because he wants to) went to one week camps during break, etc. now he's probably above average. But compared to himself it's night and day. For him, he has learned that if he practices he can get good at something. So you have the potential to have an amazing life lesson. How he feels is what's most important. My point is NOT that you must keep him in and make him good. Rather that IF he likes showing up, he might eventually gain interest and improve. If that happens in soccer or in any endeavor it will be a great lesson he can take with him the rest of his life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:53 PM Flag
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someone is always the worst. parents shouldn't be laughing - at 5yo th epoint is for them to have fun, get activity an dlearn something. i agree w taking him outside and playing with him. but not every kid is going to be super-interested. and what htey do at 5yo is not a reflection of what htey can do at 10yo. my ds had a friend who was not an athletic child, but parents kept putting him in sports and now at 12yo he's decent - not the best athlete, but above average and really likes playing sports. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Are G&T scores mailed or emailed? 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 03.30.15, 03:38 PM Flag
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They email you a link and your dc's password. You log in and get the score. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:42 PM Flag
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Thank you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:43 PM Flag
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When do we get scores [ Reply | More ]
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In the past, it was Fri or Sat before spring break, which would mean this Fri-Sat (Apr 3-4). [ Reply | More ]
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^^Response is due by Apr 23rd, and school tours will happen the week before. [ Reply | More ]
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when? [ Reply | More ]
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Next question is WHEN? [ Reply | More ]
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mid april [ Reply | More ]
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When is the regular K placement? Wouldnt the DOE try and make it simultaneous? (wishful thinking...) [ Reply | More ]
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school closed april 3-12, prob after this. our g&t planning tour for April 20th [ Reply | More ]
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fyi, last year we got G&T test scores on april 4 and K placement on April 21. Spring break was april 14-22. [ Reply | More ]
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Your memory is impressive OR! Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
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i wish! just checked the emails from last year. also, they sent an email before break saying that we would be getting K placements over the break. so we had alittle warning. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:03 PM Flag
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also make sure the doe address is in your address book so the emails don't go to spam. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, good point. [ Reply | More ]
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They mail if you applied not through the web site. They also mail you a copy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:01 PM Flag
[ - ] Maybe I'm in the minority, but I actually don't think parents should be expected to help dc with homework. Dh and I are both MDs and we work long hours. Most nights, I don't have time to help my kids or check if homework is done. Teachers should reinforce concepts well enough so that parents don't need to be involved. And enough with the over complicated projects already. 65 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:33 PM Flag
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I hear you for the actual doing of the work. But I will say that I had terrible study habits because no one made sure I did it. We makes ure that DC does his work before he can relax and watch TV. He always completes it (but I don't check to see it is right or not) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:34 PM Flag
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Op. Eh. I had terrible study habits too, all the way through med school. There are worse things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:35 PM Flag
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Yes, and I got my doctorate, but I can see a difference and I am giving you my opinion. I would have been more successful in life had I done better earlier on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:39 PM Flag
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I think you are making a big leap there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:40 PM Flag
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Agree [ Reply | More ]
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My parents never helped me or even knew what was going on. To the point of me letting them know which colleges I had applied to after the fact... my 10yrs younger sibs- totally different story. My mom says it's because they're boys but she's all over them helping with everything, emailing their teachers daily, crazy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:35 PM Flag
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i was like you, basically. but the world has changed. it is so competitive now, if you don't help them, they'll be at a disadvantage. have to do your bit when they're in it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:37 PM Flag
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The world has not changed. The first problem is mothers who view their children as projects and manage them as they do projects at work. Career moms (not to be confused with WOHM which is entirely different and IMO the absolute worst offenders are are career moms who quit) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:44 PM Flag
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Ita [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:45 PM Flag
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no, the world has changed. first, we have the "college education for every child" initiative. it's stupid but it's there so college admissions is basically a prerequisite for any decent job. second, we have more people. that means more peopel applying to the best colleges. admissions rates are lower than they were 20 years ago. three, our economy is more advanced now with more focus on technology and special skills. not a lot of people have them but those who do tend to clean up. used to be, you could study am civ in college and go to work for booze allen. not so anymore. so you need to go to a prestigious school and study something very specific and skill oriented. there aren't anymore blue collar bridge and tunnel people who end up as traders in finance making millions. there aren't people who start as the burger flippers at mcdonald's and end up being the CEO. it's just a lot more competitive and the kids will be at a disadvantage if you deny it. but i hope you do. better chances for my kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:49 PM Flag
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You sound unhinged [ Reply | More ]
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"our economy is more advanced" what does that mean? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:07 PM Flag
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There is one thing you got right, you have to study something that gives you a job. Its all about the major. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:09 PM Flag
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NP. I think you make your kids stronger and more able to compete effectively in the long run by teaching them personal responsibility and self reliance. [ Reply | More ]
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in an ideal world, the teacher would check the homework and reinforce at school. but they don't because "the parents have to be involved." so i do it because i feel like i have to. i sometimes wonder how single working parents do it. it has got to be exhausting. [ Reply | More ]
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Np. I am a single mom and I have a high school kid go over homework with my dc (4th grade) twice a week [ Reply | More ]
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i don't know how much that costs but i can imagine if you are struggling financially, it's got to be very taxing. [ Reply | More ]
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It's $30/hour [ Reply | More ]
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I am not a single mom but my dh is never home M-F. I have my 11 yo helping my 6 yo with hw. Teachers today do not assign hW that young dc can handle independently. Many SAHMs are so involved with essays etc that I can see many writing assignments for my older dc aren't done by them but I think in the long run my kids are better off learning to be independent even if today they aren't getting 4s for this home work. [ Reply | More ]
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^^ The 11 yo is my own so costs me $0 [ Reply | More ]
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ITA. My parents never helped me with my homework. I suppose they would have if I'd asked, but that never occurred to me. It was assigned to me and was my responsibility. I have no interest in or intention to repeat schoolwork. Homework assignments are between my dcs and their teachers. [ Reply | More ]
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So when your child struggles you will just let them fail because it's "not your job"? [ Reply | More ]
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Op. To clarify, I'm not talking about kids who are truly falling behind. In that case, parents should be involved. I'm talking about typical students. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:40 PM Flag
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Even a typical student is going to have things they need to work on, no? [ Reply | More ]
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Are you talking K-5? [ Reply | More ]
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Mine are in K, 4 and 6 [ Reply | More ]
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Failure is part of life. I would much prefer that they learn how to bounce back from a failure at a young age when the stakes are low. Furthermore, I find your assumption that the only two possible outcomes are excessive hands holding or failure. Nobody held my hand and my parents are extremely relaxed (not tigers at all) and I had a few sub-optimal outcomes but ultimately graduated near the top of my class and got into the college I wanted. [ Reply | More ]
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And who will teach them to bounce back? Is that your job? [ Reply | More ]
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You underestimate your dc [ Reply | More ]
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No, I don't. They have strengths and weaknesses, just like anyone else's DC. It's my job to help them get past their weaknesses. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, that is every parent's job. If you don't do the work and you get a result that is not up to your standards, you refocus and try harder next time. Learn from your mistakes. Be unemotional and analytical in assessing what you can and should do differently. Ultimately it is the child who must put the work in, though. I provide encouragement and support, but I'm not going to keep track of their assignments or review all the answers. I do answer specific questions, but this doesn't come up often. [ Reply | More ]
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This [ Reply | More ]
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?? You say, " stand up brush yourself off and get back in the game". Done [ Reply | More ]
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Define struggle. Because I suspect the vast majority of posters have children who get BS or better [ Reply | More ]
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and this ladies is that the majority of kids with both mds for parents will never achieve their same level of success. [ Reply | More ]
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Op. My parents were never involved and I have two Ivy degrees. My kids are doing very well in school. Not sure why you'd think otherwise. [ Reply | More ]
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Wow [ Reply | More ]
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Dream on. MD kids generally do very well. [ Reply | More ]
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I know two young adults who's parents are both MDs and they're not doing much w their life. it was a wake up call for me bc db #1 is on the way and there is no way my children will turn out like bumps on logs like these young adults I know. [ Reply | More ]
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Lol I doubt it's because their parents are doctors. my doctor friend has two autistic dc. Life throws you curveballs. You can't always control how dc will turn out. [ Reply | More ]
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well, one is a manager for a retail store and the other is a "professional rower" and she has stated to me that she just wants to become a trophy wife. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm not sure what your point is. Again, I doubt it's because of anything the parents did/did not do. [ Reply | More ]
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Wow. Prepare to be humbled by parenting. You have no control. [ Reply | More ]
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This [ Reply | More ]
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Totally agree. If the child can't do it 100% on their own DO NOT ASSIGN IT. When I mentioned to a teacher that I did not feel it was my responsibility to do an all about my family project in K, the teacher said "but it will be fun" - no. I have hundreds of ways to have fun with my children and dragging out pictures, making copies, cutting and pasting is not one of them [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:40 PM Flag
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Exactly. [ Reply | More ]
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Amen! [ Reply | More ]
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I don't "help" in that DS does it by himself but I will check it and make him correct it. Don't you want this little window into how he's doing in class? [ Reply | More ]
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That's what report cards are for [ Reply | More ]
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Which only comes out twice before the last day of school. I'd like to know if my kid is "getting it" [ Reply | More ]
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My rule is simple. If it happens in her classroom she's in charge. But if she sends it to my house, I'm in charge. I don't do homework. [ Reply | More ]
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I don't help either, but it is a good indicator as to where DD is in school. If I see that she is not understanding certain concepts, I address with teacher. Leaning is a two way stree, IMO. [ Reply | More ]
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What grade? [ Reply | More ]
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I totally agree - but sadly some homework is clearly geared toward parent involvement. DD's 5th grade teacher assigned a science fair project to the kids Friday afternoon, just before spring break, and asked the kids to make as much progress as possible during spring break, and said that no time would be allocated to this in class. If she really wanted to see what the kids can do, she should have it be an in-school project, and the timing of the assignment was just so obnoxious and inconsiderate. [ Reply | More ]
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Np. My kid had a project like this in 5th grade. I refused to help him. He did it all himself. It was ugly and pretty terrible, but he got an A! Kids with better projects who had clear parental involvement got Cs or worse. [ Reply | More ]
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Well sadly at our school, I have seen so many projects made by parents (and even grand parents), of highly artistic quality, but clearly not the work of an elementary school kid, and the teachers seem completely clueless. [ Reply | More ]
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Sad. This teacher was in his 60s and had raised 3 kids of his own, so he was wise to that sort of thing. [ Reply | More ]
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Maybe that's the difference. Our teachers have all been young female teachers, who did not (yet) have children. [ Reply | More ]
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That's awful [ Reply | More ]
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I never helped my DC with homework. They have always been in after-school programs (loosely organized, not academic ones) where there was some structure to get homework done. They are now 9 and 14. [ Reply | More ]
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and? did they get into good selective NYC MS or HS? where do your kids go to school [ Reply | More ]
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ITA. This seems to be the modern mentality though. My favorite are those parents who spend hours helping their kids with every assignment and then describe their child as "advanced." PSA: if your child requires adult help with most of his or her assignments, he or she is not advanced. [ Reply | More ]
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I 100% agree. However, I believe that today teachers delegate much of the teaching to the parents. [ Reply | More ]
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Exactly! [ Reply | More ]
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DC is at Speyer, a UB favorite I know, and I appreciate that his teachers request that parents not help with the homework assignments because they want to see how DC is progressing and what he can do at home, not what I can do at home. I have to say, I love the policy. There have even been reminders so I'm guessing that some parents have trouble following it. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] I have a 3 1/2 year old DD. She is in preschool and does tons of other activities. I was talking to a parent in the park with older children 10 and 8 year old. She asks if my kid knows how to read or write. I tell her she is able to identify numbers and letters, count, and the alphabet holds the pencil well but she does not yet know how to write them yet. The woman says it sounds like my kid is "behind"...her kids knew how to read simple words, write name, and all numbers 1-10 by then. Do 3 1/2 years olds typically know how to write simple words and read by now? 24 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Fake [ Reply | More ]
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No. What an obnoxious person. Where do her brilliant spawn go to school? [ Reply | More ]
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no idea where her kids go. I was really upset by her comment but I have nothing to gauge against since she's my first kid and I don't know if that is what a typical 3 1/2 year old knows. Her school use the Reggio approach so they don't really force alphabet and counting on children. [ Reply | More ]
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Np that woman is INSANE! sorry you crossed paths with her, do not think about it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:32 PM Flag
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This. Ignore the crazy and rude lady. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:37 PM Flag
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My dd could write her name (with several backwards letters, lol) by 3.5, but could not write words until around 5 or so. She is a freshman at Harvard. [ Reply | More ]
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Typically? No. Do some? Sure. I'd say identifying numbers 1-10 is far more typical and usually something they do in a preschool 3s class. Writing name - eh, some kids are better at that stuff and it's definitely "taught". Reading is highly unusual at that age, although some kids can identify a word, because they see it frequently. My kid could "read" FreshDirect at that age, but NOT because he could read, because he knew what it was. [ Reply | More ]
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Only a lunatic remembers and tells strangers about how many words her kids knew [ Reply | More ]
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Ugh I hate parents like that. Let your kids be kids ffs! [ Reply | More ]
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1) the question was obnoxious 2) your response was equally obnoxious. the correct response is, "you know what, we are super happy with her progress." big smile, sip coffee. [ Reply | More ]
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Her response wasn't obnoxious, just defensive. [ Reply | More ]
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No, neither of my kids could do that, this is basically what my 4 yo has been doing in preK all year. A few sight words, write their name and letters/numbers. And this is more than some preschools teach [ Reply | More ]
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Ha. Wow, this lady sounds like a real charmer. Even if she thought your child was 'behind', she shouldn't have shared that with you. And no, your daughter isn't behind. My son is the same age. He knows his letters and numbers. They practice in school. But when he writes his name on birthday cards and such, it is not recognizable as english. [ Reply | More ]
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TROLL [ Reply | More ]
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Your DD is fine. Don't get together with this woman again. She sounds competitive and sanctimonious. Some kids are reading/writing at this age and other kids aren't. [ Reply | More ]
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I barely remember...but I'm going with 'no'..my kid didnt read perfectly until Grade 1 and then she started reading everything in sight, still does (now 12 and way beyond grade level). Chill. [ Reply | More ]
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no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 03:35 PM Flag
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at our top g&t, K teacher said more than 2/3rd class started K not reading. think they could all write their own name. [ Reply | More ]
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FWIW - studies are now starting to show that kids who are doing the academics so early are struggling later on in life in a lot of areas around logic. Sitting stacking blocks into the tallest possible tower, creating a lego city without following set instructions, playing cars is much more beneficial for the brains at 3. Signed, mom of 2 in G&T who didn't know much at 3.5. [ Reply | More ]
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She's mean. My DS knew his letters by 18 months and reading by then but 1) I never told a soul 2) I know he was advanced 3) she is a mean person who is living her life vicariously via her child's success. [ Reply | More ]
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vba [ Reply | More ]
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Yes you are right. And that that well Veiled. Sorry about that. [ Reply | More ]
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My DC can read at 3.5, but kids in his class generally didn't read until 4 or even 5. Your DD should be able to count to 10, and recognize alphabets. Reading will happen later. Writing names should happen around 4.5. your DD is not behind. [ Reply | More ]
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I have 2 dcs. one could do it at 3. the other did it at 5. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] i so wish sometimes i were single with no children living all by my freaking self. 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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They should have Mommy Escape apartments here in the city where mom's can go and spend the weekend by themselves. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 I'd be on the waiting list to sign up [ Reply | More ]
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I like this. Someone needs to do this. [ Reply | More ]
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This is a genius business plan. It should be on shark tank. [ Reply | More ]
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I think they are this thing called hotels [ Reply | More ]
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lmao. this. [ Reply | More ]
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it's called a hotel [ Reply | More ]
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Now that's a genius business idea! Lol [ Reply | More ]
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But the mommy apartment would be stocked with wine, cheese, dark chocolate and rag mags. [ Reply | More ]
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Sometimes I'm jealous of my divorced 50/50 custody df for this exact reason [ Reply | More ]
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Yep, there's definitely an allure to that. But I remember it also being quite lonely. I think it's fine to miss all the benefits we had back then. But I wouldn't romanticize it too much. I don't miss not worrying whether I'll ever meet anyone or if I'll miss the chance to have children. I also don't miss going to events and having older family members grill me on whether I'm dating anyone. I hated that. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, I had so much angst in my 20's about whether I would every marry/have children (although I was in no rush). If someone would have told me, yes, I would, I would have been able to enjoy it so much more! [ Reply | More ]
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I'm in my mid-20s, and I agree with this 100%. All I do is worry worry worry- worry about money, worry about my career, worry if I'll ever get married, worry if I'll ever have kids, worry if I'll marry the wrong person. If I had a crystal ball to know it would all end up ok, it would be so much more enjoyable. [ Reply | More ]
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I felt this way too in my 20s, although I was also not in a rush and was very focused on my career. I think becoming a mom has made me appreciate freedom so much more, because 20s freedom has an element of insecurity to it that pervades and taints it. Now, when I meet up with a friend or have dinner out or go to a salon, I really RELISH it, and when I did stuff like that before kids, I enjoyed it but didn't get nearly as much out of it. [ Reply | More ]
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i did add "sometimes." [ Reply | More ]
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In a way I think that splitting up with DH would achieve that - having every second weekend to myself - woo hoo! Then my time with the kids could be serious, quality time, not "wait, wait, mommy has jobs to do" [ Reply | More ]
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yes, but as i always say, it's not the quality of time but the quantity of time in most deep relationships. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes. Let's go. [ Reply | More ]
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: ) [ Reply | More ]
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they will move out soon, hang in there [ Reply | More ]
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Let's switch! [ Reply | More ]
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haha! ditto [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.15, 04:04 PM Flag
[ - ] My 15 yo ds wants to work as a lifeguard this summer at a pool. Wdyt? Seems like a waste of time to me 35 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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actually colleges like this kind of thing. [ Reply | More ]
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Sounds great to me. Use sunscreen. [ Reply | More ]
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Lifeguarding is the best summer job there is. [ Reply | More ]
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Why would it be a waste of time? [ Reply | More ]
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Because he's just sitting in a chair doing nothing for hours. [ Reply | More ]
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what else woudl he be doing? [ Reply | More ]
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Oxford study abroad program [ Reply | More ]
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in high school? what's that going to do for him? anybody with some money can go to those. [ Reply | More ]
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oh for heaven's sake. Let him earn some money, have some fun and maybe save someone's life. Those "prestigious" study abroads are bs. My kids worked at the local bakery every summer, and the (HPY) admissions officers loved that. [ Reply | More ]
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i was a lifeguard and actually had to pull someone out of the pool once- he might save a life! [ Reply | More ]
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Uh, no. That's not how it works. [ Reply | More ]
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It's pretty rare to actually save someone from drowning in a pool [ Reply | More ]
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It's rare to be doing CPR, but it's several times a day you can see someone who might be over their head or those stupid kids that hold the other kids under or try to untie the girls bathing suits, or something else unsafe. [ Reply | More ]
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But you have to be 100% focused all the time. Plus you're enforcing all the other safety rules. [ Reply | More ]
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np: lifeguards are there to make sure that if a kid gets in trouble, there's someone paying attention. usually they are responsible for maintaining order, enforcing pool rules, etc. being aware if there's an accident - kid falls on deck, someone slips off diving board, etc and doing simple first aid (ice, bandaids) or getting help. one of my kids once had had a long day swimming and in the sun - jumped into the deep end and was just so tired he felt he couldn't swim to the side - i saw him and i thought he might have been crying, but lifeguard was on it - talking to him and then jumping in to guide him to the side faster than i could get there. [ Reply | More ]
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Wow, what a veal child [ Reply | More ]
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yep - after 8 hours in the pool and in the July sun, he pushed himself too far. it's actually something they warn you about - keeping kids hydrated, etc. he's one of the kind that pushes past his limits and then crashes. a veal child would never have been outside and in the sun and swimming all day. he wpould have been indoors and engaged w an adult. by the way - child was 6yo. [ Reply | More ]
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Does your kid go to day camp? He sounds under conditioned. [ Reply | More ]
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ridiculous. this was a one off instance for my kid. who is actually very athletic. that day was too much. it was 6 years ago, i don't even remember what had happened. just that he got overwhelmed adn she was there to talk him through. the reason lifeguards are there is you just don't know what can happen. one girl stubbed her toe awkwardly ont he edge of the pool deck and it started bleeding profusely - freak accident, she wasn't that hurt, but the amount of blood was shocking - lifeguard was there to deal. [ Reply | More ]
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Except for those minutes when he is saving a life. My DD was pulled out of a riptide in the ocean thanks to a lifeguard. I makes me cry to this day if I think about what would have otherwise happened if it weren't for the lifeguard. [ Reply | More ]
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Good for your DC. I was a pool lifeguard and loved it. Not a lot of lives saved... [ Reply | More ]
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Aw. I still cherish my silver whistle given by my pool for my first "save" [ Reply | More ]
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You have a misunderstanding of what goes into it. My niece does this. She's in ridiculous shape. They do a ton of training. She's now managing other lifeguards. [ Reply | More ]
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A job is never waste of time. [ Reply | More ]
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I so agree...but there seems to have been a weird shift in attitudes with parents thinking their precious angels should not waste time doing something as banal as making money. I'd hire the kid who worked as a lifeguard over the one who never had a job any day. [ Reply | More ]
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This [ Reply | More ]
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I think it's great! [ Reply | More ]
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Best teenage job. Hands down. DC will enjoy it, make friends and then not have issue with having a job (ie, not wanting to go back, needing to look for something new in retail or food service every summer, etc) Suggest he get the proper certification to teach swilling lessons too. [ Reply | More ]
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It's a great summer job. Not a waste at all. [ Reply | More ]
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He'll get so much tail if he does. That's what he's looking forward to - girls who will come on to him every day. [ Reply | More ]
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A 15 yo?? [ Reply | More ]
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HA! Yes, of course. [ Reply | More ]
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Is he getting paid? How is working to earn money a waste of time? [ Reply | More ]
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Get a grip, he's 15. [ Reply | More ]
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My daughter has been a lifeguard for five years, its helping to pay for her college, started at age 15. Yes its boring but pays well and has a lot of responsibility. [ Reply | More ]
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