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[ - ] Can someone please post a glossary of the acronyms used here? I'm a little slow on the uptake. PITA? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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Pain in the a$$ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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OP: Thanks. Any other must-knows? I get ttc, wtf, imho and all the basics. Feel like I need a Berlitz course. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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On the right hand side there's a link to "Abbreviations" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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OP: little lightbulb just flickered on. thanks so much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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A kind of parent-teacher association [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:29 PM Flag
[ - ] OK so there was this huge story in the NYT recently about parents sharing childcare responsibilities. Hasn't garnered a bit of discussion on PSP, how about here? So distant from my situation, where I have to beg DH to help out. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 06.18.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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I read it. I didn't think it would work in most people's lives. It was about two parents compromising both of their careers. I can't think of any couples I know where that would happen. It's usually more one has the high powered career and the other has a career and does the child work, or has no career and stays home [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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nonstarter in nyc -- who could afford this today. someone has to be pulling in the $$... if not indeed both [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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dh and I were able to make career moves that allow us to spend time with kids and live in city. dh works market hrs, I work pt. we split household stuff fairly evenly (and have pt housekeeper). I spend more time with kids since I work fewer days. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:26 AM Flag
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it was on the Today Show. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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I read it. We sort of do this. We work flex times, but both full time. I work earlier, he works later so kids are in dc every day but less time. DH does tons around the house. I work from home once a week. I make much more $$$ so that may be why things have played out this way but I like to think dh would still do his share. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 05:06 AM Flag
[ - ] Looking for vacation ideas - late Sept. for a week with dh and 3yo and 5yo ds'. Not too expensive, within a 6 hr drive from NYC. Maybe Montreal or Maine but looking for other ideas - as specific as possible. Thanks! 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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Late Sept in the Hamptons is great [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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It's not empty then? And what is there to do? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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The beach is great then and it's pretty empty which is a good thing. The hotel rates go down, too [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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Thanks - do you have any specific hotel recs? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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Southampton Inn, Maidstone Inn, Inn at East Hampton Point, Guerneys, Quogue Inn. There are many others [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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-- ooh forgot. American Hotel in Sag Harbor. Great place. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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you can rent a house for a week - could be nice. The American Hotel in Sag Harbor is supposed to be cute. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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Beaches, apple/pumpkin picking, kids museum, awesome aquarium in riverhead, great restaurants, nice day spas, bike riding, drive out to montauk for the day, rent a sailboat, Shelter Island. WOn't be super duper exciting, but will be nice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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thanks so much - i'm going to check out some of the hotels [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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Mohonk. Though that might qualify as too expensive for you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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That would probably be too expensive, but thanks [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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september is great on cape cod or nantucket ( and i think it;s true for most of new england), but beware of too many retirees. they take revenge that they can't come in summer, and in usually kid-friendly places they get annoyed if kids make noice. but if you don't mind old people (like i do, lived in Naples, Fl - allergic to entitled retirees)- it's so pleasant [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 09:24 PM Flag
[ - ] Venting ... so disappointed right now!! we have a PT nanny for our 6 mo. ds and she is supposed to become his FT nanny (4 days/wk, 40 hrs) when i go back to work next month. she initially agreed to $500/wk plus lots of time off/vacation time, and now she wants $600 and when we didn't budge she still has to think about it. im starting to think she cares way more about money than our son and our family. she knows we love her and im going back to work in a few weeks, like she is taking advantage. even if she says yes now, i feel like i should still look around bc she will probably leave us if she finds someone else to pay her more, right??? what would you do? am i being unreasonable? 37 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Newborn 06.18.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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The going rate for a FT nanny for those hours is $600. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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Potentially, although I know plenty of people who pay $650 for 50 hours. It isn't the point anyway, the nanny agreed to $500/week + vacation time and is now reneging. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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The nanny is part time now. Going to full time means a raise to the going rate. I paid $675 for 50 hours. You get what you pay for [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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Yes, but she agreed to the $500/week + vacation for full time. OP didn't say she makes $500/week now. The amount of money is irrelevant - she already agreed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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In a world where there is no union, anyone on any side of the table can agree to disagree and move on [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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and it's so sad that this involves caring for a child. the whole nanny and childcare thing is so stressful and upsetting. it shouldn't have to be this way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Look, you hire someone to care for your child. Do you want a happy employee who is excited about her work, or a resentful employee? Seems to make sense to pay the going rate if not more if you can do it, for a happy employee. They are not your kids' moms, you are [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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i agree. we of course thought she was happy. and we would love to give her more money if we had it. that's why im concerned that even if she says yes now, its already been tainted and i think she will look for a new job and leave and i certainly dont want some to be unhappy while caring for my child. she knows we value her, i have told her a million times. i was just really stunned by her sudden demand. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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my friend pays $650 to her nanny of 2 1/2 yrs for 2 kids [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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how many hours/ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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44 hrs, 4 days/wk [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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going rate for two kids in NYC STARTS at $15/hr [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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that's what i thought, right??? i have been told by more than 15-20 ppl that $15/hr is for 2 kids, and not for 1 kid, especially just starting out. is this wrong??? i did a lot of research on this. i know ppl pay more, but im taking average, fair, reasonable, salary. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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funny, i have been told by so many ppl that the going rate for 1 child for 4 days/wk is more like $500. the park slope nanny compenstation survey just came out, avg rate is btw $12-13/hr for 4 days. most ppl i know only pay $600 starting out for 2 kids or to a nanny who has been with them for awhile. $15/hr is more for PT hours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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Not fair to say she cares more about money than your family. She has a right to want a good wage. Though it's true she should have raised this much earlier on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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agreed. but she gave me this whole song and dance about how she loves us and she is not the kind of nanny who is about money and its more impt to work for a family she loves and now she comes at us with this???? i wish she had been honest from the beginning instead of putting us in a difficult situation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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it's her job. any affection she has for your family is besides the point. Would you leave your job that you loved for a 20% pay raise? If it meant a better school or life for your kids? and extra $100 a week is a lot to many working people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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yes, and that extra $100 means a lot to me and my family as well. i dont make very much money and the only reason im going back to work is so we have health care and the rest of my salary is going to the nanny. i wish i could do daycare but i cant make the hours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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I sympathize, and it sucks that she's put you in this situation. But if you would fight for and/or leave for a 20% raise, then don't blame her for doing so. Your family is lovely, I'm sure (no sarcasm, really!) but you're not a nonprofit. Good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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i agree, i dont blame anyone for trying to make a living. what upsets me is being led to believe one thing and then she does another and has made this all very stressful for my family. that is what upsets me the most. and when we discussed this for the 3rd time today, i dont want to be told again i'll think about it, if you make a demand, then live with the result. i dont appreciate being played around with, especially when it involves my son. thats all im saying. and thank you for the sympathy, i do appreciate it. like i said, just need to vent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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yup, I don't envy you. good luck, i hope it works out. you're either going to lose her or feel screwed, poor thing! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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thank you, i just wanted a little affirmation. i sincerely do appreciate it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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$12.50/hr is on the lower side. She has to make a living too. I pay mine 13.50/hr - 50 hrs with a lot of time off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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are the 50 hrs for 4 or 5 days? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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why would it matter? but it is 50 hr 5 day, but mondays are not the full 10 hr days -- they are only 6hrs, but I still pay for 10 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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it matters bc if the hours are contained in 4 days, and the 5th day is totally free, they can pick up other work and make more money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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np-doing what? hard to find a 1 day childcare gig and not many other jobs pay $13 per hour [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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she does some cleaning jobs on the side [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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OR REST because they're exhausted from working so long. They shouldn't HAVE to get another job to make ends meet. I think if you really like her you should pay a bit more. Perhaps you can negotiate some more 'tasks' for the increase. Good luck [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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we tried that. we discussed giving her xtra money to do heavy cleaning in the apt (not just tidying up). we told her we just wanted to wait a month or so to make sure she had the time to do it. i know sometimes when im taking care of DS all day, i cant seem to find time to even shower, let alone scrub the bathroom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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i know many many ppl who have 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet, really, i do [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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its unrealistic of you to expect your nanny to want to work for less than the going rate just because she loves your child. it is still her job. you should nto be disappointed in her behavior [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 02:43 AM Flag
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yes, you are being unreasonable. she wants the money to which she is entitled, and, as much as she probably genuinely loves your ds, she probably realizes that there are other lovable children out there whose families will pay her the usual rate [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 02:45 AM Flag
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everyone who is carrying on about the going rate must be nannies or something. I feel very badly for OP -- they had an agreement when she was hired. It doesn't matter what the specifics were. The nanny is now emotionally blackmailing the OP. NO on here can accept a job offer then a couple of months into the job demand a 20 percent higher salary. Come on! To the OP: I know it's hard because it's your db, but I think you need to start looking around for a more reliable, trustworthy nanny. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:23 AM Flag
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itttta. slippery slope here-nanny likely to ask for other things that weren't agreed upon later [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:38 AM Flag
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i think this is a red flag. yes, everyone is entitled to a fair wage, but don't accept one thing and change it later. there are lots of good caregivers out there. I don't think you are being unreasonable-am surprised by responses saying you are. i live downtown and among friends, most pay anywhere between 10-25/hr (with bulk bw 10-15) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:20 AM Flag
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i totally feel for you. same thing happened to me. even if she agrees to the orig negotiated fee, are you going to be able to get past this? i tried to, but it was in the back of my mind for a long time and in the end, i, too felt like i didn't totally trust her anymore. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.01.08, 05:44 PM Flag
[ - ] Any sailing camps for kids in Brooklyn? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 06.18.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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There is a sailing camp in NYC, but I want to say it's in Queens, not Brooklyn [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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there is one at the financial center in manhattan. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:13 PM Flag
[ - ] DS got Roto Virus Vaccine yesterday. Friend told me that her dr told her to wash her hand extra well after changing diapers because she could catch the virus from the poop. Is this true? Our dr never told us this. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Newborn 06.18.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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my kids never got this roto virus vaccine. Is it new? My kids are almost 7yo [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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yes, I just remember that our dr said not to let immuno-suppressed people change ds's diaper after that for two weeks, and we had to be sure to clean up well (but who doesn't after a pooh) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:09 PM Flag
[ - ] moms who took antidepressants during TTC/pregnancy...what did you take? How old is your dc? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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I took prozac until I got pregnant and then switched to zoloft (I was told less of it comes out in your breastmilk.) twins are 5 and fabulous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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so you stayed on zoloft until delivery? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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..or even longer? good to know. OB rec this med over prozac? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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And after, yes. I'd gone off prozac when ttc because of course ideally you're not taking anything. But I found I really needed it, and weighed the pros (having a sane mom) against the cons (I don't remember them but there were a few, albeit unproven at the time) and figured I'd be a crappy mom if I went off. It all worked out--my girls were in great health, not agitated or underweight or any of that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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If I'm remembering correctly, there was data on zoloft not showing up in breast milk as much, and I think there wasn't data on prozac...I can't remember. I believe it was a psychiatrist who suggested I switch, if only for the length of the pregnancy and nursing. I did and it was not a problem. They're pretty similar, though. I think they just new more about zoloft at the time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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thanks for the post and all the info. congrats on the twins [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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thanks so much. good luck with whatever you decide. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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I was just discussing this with my psych today. she recently attended a conference on the subject and recommended womensmentalhealth.org, particularly articles by Dr. Lee S. Cohen. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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Poster with twins again--yes, Lee Cohen is the recognized expert on this. I read his opinions back when I was sorting it all out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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oh - thank you both - will check it out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:19 PM Flag
[ - ] What shoe would you wear on a 2 week vacation, mostly walking around? I'm a little sandal type of person but I'm afraid that will hurt, but I fear big ugly Keen type shoes. Any advice? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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I would bring flats with closed toes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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Merrels aren't sexy but so comf. Can also get some of those sneaker-shoes by DKNY. Check out zappos. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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get over yourself and wear the ugly shoes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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no, c'mon, no reason to be the fat american in the big white sneakers [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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there's a world of different between the blinding white New Balance and a cute pari of Keens! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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ita, and there are sleeker models of keens, not all bowling shoes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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Check out the Puma website - some decent looking shoes. Also Cole Haan's Nike shoes are nice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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Privo is cute & comfy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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ITA and fit flops are soooo comfy, too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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do those fit flops work? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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Dansko clogs are very comfy and good for your feet...Privo are comfy also [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:45 PM Flag
[ - ] Anybody STILL not get a public PreK letter (acceptance or rejection)? Registration ended last Friday. My son never got one, nor did his friend & just curious how many others there are out there. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 06.18.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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You need to call OSEPO and find out what happened - why on earth haven't you done this yet? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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as if they answer the phone [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:58 PM Flag
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Call them, email them, go to Tweed and stand there until they tell you. I honestly haven't heard or read of anyone else who still hasn't gotten answers on Pre-K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:02 PM Flag
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OP: I called the school & register my son so no biggee for me. I just know if some others in this boat, so I figure that for those who aren't compulsively online they may have missed spot. And for this & a related issue I have been trying to get through to OSEPO for a month. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:18 AM Flag
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There is a round 2 of pre-K admissions that starts June 23 - look at DOE website. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:11 PM Flag
[ - ] Looking for feedback on SHUANG WEN (dual language school)P.S.184M LES- are parents happy sending DC there & demanding for DC, even for Pre -K? DS (chinese & white)was lucky to get a pre-K spot & am excited about Sept. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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Are you Chinese? I heard white kids just never have opp'y to p/u Chinese as everything is English. Ran into a couple classes of them on the subway couple wks ago -- they were amazingly well behaved. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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Good friends of ours send their (white) twins last year for pre-K. My understanding was that they liked the class and what they were learning but that the long day was kind of grueling. Also son has a nut allergy and that was not taken seriously, which was scary for them. They're going elsewhere for K. But yes, I live nearby and the kids are by and large lovely and disciplined. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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Wow, good to know. My son is mixed. I am Chinese and DH is white. But, I do not speak Mandarin. Hope Pre-K will be a little lax. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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Everything in this post is completely accurate and fair, unlike a lot of posts about SW on UB. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 10.10.10, 09:55 PM Flag
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This year dual language started for K and preK. Half the school day is in Mandarin, half in English. 100% of optional after-school program is in Mandarin. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 10.10.10, 09:54 PM Flag
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Is it open to those outside the district? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:39 AM Flag
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it used to be but last year they went back to mostly district kids for k, so out of district kids for prek were sol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.19.08, 04:40 AM Flag
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Love it for my non-Chinese kids. Parents and teachers are serious about academics. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.12.10, 07:14 PM Flag
[ - ] is any one familiar with method baby bath products? opinions? tia 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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they are ok. decent smell. cute cup to rinse hair with one of the products. paraben free at least [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone drive the new Honda Pilot? How is it? Have an older version, but the lease is almost up and I don't know what to do. Thinking about keeping this one (b/c I love it!) or trying the new version (but, superficially, I don't like the look of it). 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 06.18.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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I have one that is about 3 years old and am trading it in -- everyone loves the Pilot but there are so many things that drive better out there... Also, it's so hard to get to the third row with carseats in the middle row. Think I'm going to buy the GMC Acadia next. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 08:21 PM Flag
[ - ] DB is 4mos today and he flips from back to tummy for sleep. Should I be concerned about him sleeping on stomach? We put him on back and he flips right over again in his sleep... DD didn't do this! 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Newborn 06.18.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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Sounds like he has enough neck control for it to be a non issue [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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ITA. He clearly prefers his stomach and I'll bet he's sleeping better. Our ped told us not to worry about the same thing way back when. Kids still alive 5 years later. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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thx, yes he has good neck control ok [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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DS been sleeping on his tummy since about 8 wks old. as long as they can move their head back and forth, no worries. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:04 PM Flag
[ - ] Trying again: Has anyone in D1 or any other district gotten official notification from the DOE on the K lottery? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 06.18.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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yes, D2 here. heard today [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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OP: really! OK, maybe we will. thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:43 PM Flag
[ - ] i'm feeling petty. a lot of people around me are having serious problems in various aspects of their lives. so my more minor problems are being minimized. i realize that other people are having more serious issues and i'm grateful that i'm not having it that bad. but it's never a good feeling to have your issues minimized. 30 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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So you're pissed that your whites aren't totally white, meanwhile your neighbors are being evicted? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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nice. you do exactly what's making her feel like s**t. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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she knows she's being petty [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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all the more reason not stomp on her when she's admitting something she's not proud of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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BS, she's passive-aggressively asking us to validate her pettiness [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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I think she's being pretty direct. ;) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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LOL. OK, let it out, sweetheart! Your issues are important too! Tell us your pwobwems! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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op: it's possible that that's part of it. but it's more than that. people are saying to me "you're lucky with the problems you have" when i don't feel lucky. i'm grateful it's not worse. but i'm tired of people (mostly one person) saying to my face that i had it easy when it was hard for me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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So what are your problems? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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the big one was a second trimester miscarriage that really hit me harder than i thought it would. (not that i ever gave it much thought at all until it happened to me). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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Same poster as below--that's huge. I'm really sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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That one sounds like a real problem to me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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op: yes, i thought so. but some relatives are going through serious ongoing medical issues (one has cancer) and so this sort of pales. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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OK, to be honest... I think the miscarriage is a serious issue, but I've gotta say, I wouldn't complain about it to someone with cancer [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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Wow, what happened to your friends that's bigger than that? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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OP, don't reveal! Doesn't matter what your problems are and put 'em out here and someone will surely minimize them. Whatever they are, sorry for your troubles. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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thanks. i don't know if i'll get flamed. and even if i do, it's nothing that people aren't saying to my face anyway. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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Sounds like you need to trade in some of your friends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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no, it's not them. i mean, it's a little insensitive but it's the kind of thing i'd say to myself. it's just not so nice hearing it from other people. and plus, i feel stupid crying on their shoulder about my problems when they are dealing with other family/friends that have current problems. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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np- you mean like some people are losing their houses and I am upset I can't sell mine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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You're too late! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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Well I think having dull colored whites is less of an issue than being homeless. That's all [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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no. more like someone complaining that their washing machine is broken when someone else had a flood in their apt. sort of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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i hear you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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Honestly, not petty to worry about your own problems, even if they are not as serious as others. Just because they aren't the worst doesn't make them not worry-worthy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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op: right. and i realize they are small. but being told by other people that my issues aren't comparable does not feel good. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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^^^and i feel petty about it b/c i agree with them. and i'd say the same things to myself. but the fact that other people are saying it is what is bothering me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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ITA. You are where you are. As long as you have a little perspective. That hangnail can really effin' hurt. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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And as it turns out, a second semester miscarriage is no hangnail. AWful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.18.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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