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[ - ] My SIL and nephew are visiting but I don't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English. It's a lot more awkward than I imagined. Not really sure what to do with them. Nephew also doesn't speak English, but he's two so just kind of playing around with my kids. 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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Start leaning Spanish for next time they visit or you visit them [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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get out of the apartment. plenty of spanish speaking in the city. they can translate for you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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Warmth and friendliness are not bound by language. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:27 PM Flag
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Teach her some english [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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where is dh? he should be around for translating ( I am assuming it's his sister) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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It's my brothers wife and he is traveling for work. We are in the hamptons. I feel like an idiot when I show her pictures of things. Like the beach so see if she wants to go. Luckily we have a pool at the house and she has been swimming with her baby a lot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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How does your brother communicate with her? He speaks Spanish? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:49 PM Flag
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Yes. He is fluent. Met her in South America. He travels there frequently for work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:56 PM Flag
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pointing and pictures do work - maybe the both of you will learn some of each others language - I have used a translation app before that is helpful - have fun! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:50 PM Flag
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I know some basic Spanish but I can't really chat with her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
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I'm sure she appreciates that. Keep including her in activities. You both know you don't speak each other's language, so move on from the obvious, and do things together. It will make her feel welcome and you less awkward. I don't know if you have Roku or streaming TV, but after dinner, you could put on a movie in Spanish and put on English subtitles or in English and put on Spanish subtitles. You can spend time together in a way that both of you can understand what's going on. I'm sure other TV providers offer something similar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:03 PM Flag
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GOOGLE TRANSLATE - you can both type in and it will both print and speak for you in the other language. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:22 PM Flag
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iphone app [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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Where are they visiting from? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
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They have several homes. I don't even know what they call home these days. Aspen, palm beach, Argentina, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
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How does she deal with living in palm beach and aspen not speaking english? She needs to learn. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:00 PM Flag
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There are several other Spanish speakers in their communities. I've met some of the others, but they all speak English fluently. I'm not sure why she hasn't learned. Some people aren't good with languages. Others are shy? My brother had a friend who spoke English quite well but he was so shy and afraid to use it. Maybe she is the same? I use whatever Spanish I know, and I know it sounds awful but she understands me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:06 PM Flag
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your husband can translate. pointing, gesturing, should be enough to communicate the basic. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
[ - ] When does family money cross over from lame-living-off-your-parents territory into wealthy-snooty-family money territory? 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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What [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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when you can live off the interest in the trust fund [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Whatever. Know so many trust fund kids. They're all alcoholics. Sad. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:23 PM Flag
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I went to boarding school and was surrounded by family money. Have kept in touch with many of my classmates through facebook or otherwise and run into some at weddings or other events. To me, when the family has large amounts of money and gives child enough to live their own life (and often set up child with a cushy job most wouldn't have access to) that's wealthy impressive family money. When parent is involved in the day to day, constantly paying rent, buying house for child, and giving an allowance of sorts it seems more lame to me. So I guess the difference is how involved your family is in your life, even if they gave you a large chunk of money [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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I think that has more to do with the parenting and expectations of the children than super rich vs moderately rich. Either you feel you have done a good job and your kid will take the ball and run with it or you have not and need to keep taking care of you child. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:29 PM Flag
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np: believe me, family money even the super wealthy trust fund kind, comes w a lot of strings attached. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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When you have enough that you're not siphoning off from future generations. IE when you can live off the interest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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When you have enough that you don't go on UB posting lame hypotheticals while you're in grad school about SAHM vs WOHM and camp vs no camp. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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rich people are crazy too [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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np: haha I'm grad school future SAHM. I'm not op, but thanks for the shout out! I don't use words like snooty. haha. But you're right that this is a topic I find interesting. You're getting better at at least identifying the topics I like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:59 PM Flag
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we are neither, but I rolled my eyes when my college roommate got an allowance, was constantly asking her parents for more money, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:06 PM Flag
[ - ] Who is likely to view your linked profile anonymously? Recruiters? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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good question, it's weird! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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A lot of people, these days. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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+1. I don't have an account so any time I look at one it must show up as anonymous [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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PIs [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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Recruiters and also current bosses to make sure you're not looking. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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There's no way for them to find out if you are looking. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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if you have resume attached to your profile and its updated fully, you're looking [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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How to tell if the profile is updated fully? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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You should always update every new promotion. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:43 PM Flag
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your DH"s ex girlfriends, of course [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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Ex boyfriends. Husbands mistress. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
[ - ] Scene in the Suburbs: Three young kids standing along the road outside a $7 million dollar mansion trying to sell bottles of store brand bottled water to cars in a traffic jam in front of their house as their Guatemalan nanny looks on. 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Why would there be a traffic jam outside a $7mm mansion? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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Highly unlikely in burbs [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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Hahaha they should at least try to repackage. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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Why do you laugh at this? My husband runs a hedge fund and we have serious $$$ but we allow our kids to run lemonade stands. Also they sell flags in the day leading up to 4th of July. It is never too early for kids to learn about making money ! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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I used to sell the produce my mother grew in her garden. She would charge me too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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I totally agree. If you look at the true self made billionaire women like Elizabeth Holmes or Sara Blakely, or the others, they pretty much all had businesses when they were children. Children that are motivated to make money from an early age will push to make money as adults [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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np: I agree BUT there is something different about lemonade in a pitcher sold by the glass (even bigger profit margin) that the kids pour, etc than store bought drinks that the kids just toss in a cooler. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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Why? It is more sanitary to sell packaged stuff. if you go to costco you can buy bottled water for six cents a bottle and sell it to people for $2 a bottle. Good profits [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:27 PM Flag
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Make some fucking effort [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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no way [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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+1 my kids sell cookies, brownies and lemonade in the neighborhood they have to bake it, make it, sell it. They love it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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And? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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There is a stupid myth on Urban Baby that you have to be born rich in order to be a rich adult. Couldn't be farther from the truth. the overwhelming majority of the richest people in America are NOT from rich families but are instead from normal upper middle class families [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Ok so they are trying to make the money the honest way. Lemonade stand updated. I think its great. And you seem to have a problem with absolutely everything. One advise for you....www.eomega.com. Go and improve your miserable self. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
[ - ] Ok, I used to run 6-7 miles a day about 1.5 years ago. I looked amazing! Then got divorced and with all the stress of that ( moving, switching dcs schools, etc) stopped making time for exercising. So I'm mentally back but my body isn't - I am fat! My legs feel like lead weights, to the point that I wind up walking most of the time. I hate it and feel like a loser. Any suggestions? This has been going on for 3-4 months. Tia! 32 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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you gotta suck it up. take that first run/walk. then do it again. and again. and again. you know this.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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I've been doing that every morning. I don't recall my legs feeling so heavy, they really do feel like they are weighted down. Also I think the band on my bra is too tight and I'm not able to expand my chest enough/fill lungs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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get a bigger bra. it will suck for a while. hang in there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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OP: yeah, I'm going to have too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:44 PM Flag
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I posted here about the same thing (legs feeling heavy). Some kind runners said maybe I was dehydrated/hungry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:50 PM Flag
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OP: really? I do this first thing in the morning before breakfast/coffee. Maybe I'll drink a little water before I go out tomorrow. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:09 PM Flag
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Me too (I'm also recently divorced/used to be hard core runner with a few extra pounds). I always ran empty. Now I try to eat/drink something then run. It helps. So does trying to run when it's not super-humid. It's like running with a wet blanket. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:29 PM Flag
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Let's do it together. We have to run tomorrow morning, promise? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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np: I'm going to run too. We can do this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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OP: ok! I don't like group runs but I like the group support. thanks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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Alright, let's all report back after our separate but together runs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:47 PM Flag
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OP: will do :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:52 PM Flag
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you feel like a loser because you're not exercising? I think someone needs to redefine what makes a loser. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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OP: no, I feel like a loser b/c I wind up walking more than running. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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Like I said, SOMEONE (you) need to reevaluate what it means to be a "loser" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:56 PM Flag
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OP: well I don't mean it like I'm pathetic and going to off myself. I'm bummed I'm walking more than running. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:09 PM Flag
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How many hills in your standard morning loop? I ended up walking a lot on hills then I made a new 3 mile loop. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:30 PM Flag
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I've been there. Do couch to 5k just like a beginner. You will have a mental advantage in that you know you can do it . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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OP: thanks, I'm going to look into this! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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C25k [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:29 PM Flag
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Can't do it. Made my knees ache after 4 sessions and I had to quit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:35 PM Flag
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Op? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:47 PM Flag
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OP: No, that wasn't me. My knees are fine. I occasionally ice one knee if I'm feeling anything after exercising. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:53 PM Flag
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you'll get there! first, stop comparing yourself now to the 6-mile runner bc you will set yourself up to give up. forget that gal for awhile :-). now you are aiming to run daily just 2 miles with new shoes and new clothes (so they fit right and prevent injury) AND you change your diet. Bc you weigh more, you are risking injuring yourseld if you run too long or hard. you need to lighten your weight and build muscles and lung capacity to stay strong and motivated! Signed, mom who just lost 25 lbs at 45 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
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OP: Thank you lady! I do keep going back to 6-mi me as a motivation tool, like hey I did this before, I can do it again. But it's frustrating. New shoes sound good. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
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NP again: seriously, I dont know your age but start with diet and use the exercise to keep you mentally happy and feeling good. skip dinner 2 nights a week and go to bed really early on those nights you ran 2-3 mi thag morning. this will be the keybto success . turn in by 9:30 latest. the wt will melt off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:08 PM Flag
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OP: I like a plan and this sounds like a good one. Thank you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:10 PM Flag
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I didn't work out for about two years. I started playing tennis 2x a week a few months ago and did my first intense workout last week. I feel amazing and energized and ready to go five days a week. Pick the thing you like the most to get back into it (not the one you need the most). The energy will come back n [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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OP: thanks for the suggestion/encouragement. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:00 PM Flag
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I am old and was in bad shape. At the end of last summer, I started doing spinning classes at the gym, 45 mins long, about twice a week. At first my only goal was to keep moving through the whole class. It was amazing how quickly I became stronger. You might consider this, because it's very easy on your body, and large fans blow air around so you don't get too hot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:06 PM Flag
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OP: Thank you. I can't imagine you are old. Spinning isn't for sissys! While I like spinning ( it got me in good shape for my wedding) there aren't any studios that open early enough for me. I have to be done/showered/dressed by 5:45am. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:20 PM Flag
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That's tough. So you must head out at 5? Then if you walk, takes longer to cover the same distance. Can you try running after work? Or you want to spend time with DCs? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:00 PM Flag
[ - ] Okay...I think we're going to intentionally try to space the kids about 5 or 5.5 years apart. Give me your good and bad experiences here please! TIA 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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5 yr spacing here and love it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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mee too! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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We have almost 5 years between our kids and it's really good for us. They get along very well but each have their own thing going on. What sucks is that just when you're about out of the toddler stage you get thrust back into it, but other than that I think it's a great idea. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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5 yr spacing here. Great because they want totally different things from you. Older one in K when DB born. Right now it's tough because they want such different things it's hard to plan activities that would interest both. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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I am the older sibling in a 5 yr age gap and its horrible. My younger brother and I really have nothing in common and have been in different places our entire lives. Never had a foundation to build a strong relationship on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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That's not because of the age gap. Five years is not that big a gap. Actually maybe it is an odd gap, I don't know. But my baby sis and I are 9 years apart and I love it cause I can live vicariously through her. I get to be 39 on my own and 30 when I am with her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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OP here - it actually seems like sometimes bigger gaps can make people closer. I know a lot of stories like yours! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:37 PM Flag
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Yes, that's why I thought maybe 5 is an odd gap. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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np: i think you are right that it's not the age gap. i think some siblings are close and others aren't. my friend doesn't talk to her sib who is 2 years younger and very close w her sibs who are 14 and 16 years younger (she is now in her 50s). my friend has 18, 15 and 10yo and the younger 2 are close and the oldest and youngest are close, but the oldest 2 are not. all boys. i think a lot is a personality issue. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:47 PM Flag
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OR here.. and in my case, it is because of the gap. Happy to hear about your situation with your sister but my situation is different. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
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women plan, God laughs [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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These are so great, thanks, everyone. FWIW, if it all works out I'll be 39 with #2. So there's that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:29 PM Flag
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I had exactly the same plan, and I hate to be that person, but from first-hand experience, if you care more about having a second than having the spacing, start trying sooner. I got pregnant instantly the first time around, rolled my eyes at DH and others who warned me about secondary infertility, waited until 38 to start trying for #2, and now approaching 40 with no baby in sight. I'm ok being one-and-done, but it's been a crazy hard couple of years physically and emotionally. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:39 PM Flag
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4.5 year spacing and I think it's great - i think the trade off of no sibling rivalry issues in the beginning, not having to deal w newborn and toddler at the same time is worth the fact that you don't get the "little kid phase" of life done as quickly. as a ft wohm i really liked that i wasn't as overwhelmed but i think this would be even more true as a sahm, if one kid is off to K when the baby comes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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It took me two years to realize it, but I like the age gap I have. 2.75 years. It was REALLY hard at first, especially with jealousy issues from my older dc. However, now they're best of friends at 2 and almost 5. I know it won't always be like this, but it is just beautiful. I used to wish I could have waited for 5 years, but I'm happy with what I have. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:09 PM Flag
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Spacing doesn't matter- the only thing that matters is how you raise them. My brother is 5-years younger and we are super close as adults. We weren't always close as kids because I was older and often watching him and other kids - but we still have loved each other completely since the 1st minute. I have 2 16 months apart and it's the same way -except they don't ever want to be apart and they're into the same stuff. I know people who don't speak to their siblings and it's got nothing to do with the spacing - they don't come from close families. My brother's wife calls my (insanely crazy) family 'perfect' and never knew families could be so close. She's not used to having people around who would literally die for one and other - and it's just a difference in how she grew up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:26 PM Flag
[ - ] There is a guy at work who is kicking and screaming that he deserves promotion yet he took 3 months paternity leave (linger than most women in our department) and is now constantly taking time off for doc appointments and asking to work from home 2-3 x a week. The worst part is that his wife is a teacher so she isn't even working right now. No one seems to see this as an issue but I had difficult time blocking off time to pump. He is getting the promotion despite all this and I am 100% sure this wouldn't fly if he was female and pulled same. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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The women need to kick and scream that they deserve promotion. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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He is kicking and screaming for a promotion WHILE also trying to work from home and taking a ton of days off which must be well above our policy limit. Most women simply would not have the audacity to demand both at the same time [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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he is a hero for taking time with his kids. Moms are judged and mommy tracked when they do the same. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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I don't think he is seen as a hero but it isn't seen as an issue. He actually says "now that I have a baby I need to WAH at least 2x a week". I could never ever say this and it would not bode well for my career with the exact same management in place. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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Ugh. I would be pissed--does seem sexist. I'm all for parental leave but people having to be professional going forth and realize they're not the only new parent ever. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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He complains to me that he is working late because of the kid while we are both in the office late and I have more than 1 kid... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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I can only say that I am sorry this situation can go on and women get to witness yet one more injustice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:29 PM Flag
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Maternity leave in this country is barbaric. No need to applaud yourself for shortchanging yourself and your baby. [ Reply | More ]
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I am not applauding myself. I am seeing a total double standard not to mention that women do give birth and BF. I am not comparing maternity policy to other countries but am comparing how man and women are treated by the same management in the same department. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:33 PM Flag
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Okay, fair enough. I don't know about the management at your company but I feel like we want more men to want to take on more childcare and do more at home so it's hard to be mad at this guy. If they give him the promotion then I guess there's precedent? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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That was uncalled for. Really. Re-read your reply and think on that before you post something like this next time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
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Okay mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:53 PM Flag
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Is he a rainmaker? If so he can do whatever he wants. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:06 PM Flag
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Sounds a lot like me except I took 4 months (paid) with my first and 7.5 months (partly paid, longer than most but less than my employer allows) for my second. WAH 3 sometimes 4x a week, go to appts etc when needed. Also EBF. I am considered a "top performer" and my 2 biggest raises were right after my 2 maternity leaves. I can see how you would be annoyed by his situation especially if you think he is getting away with more than his female counterparts, however, family flexibility benefits everyone and rather than cutting him down and trying to take it away from him, I would try to build people up and get the flexibility for everyone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:18 PM Flag
[ - ] Tell us where you went to college and something about you that isn't your job or where you're from and we will imagine what you are like. 38 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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Columbia. I'm a huge Disney geek and go to every D23 convention and Comicon convention as well as follow multiple blogs on Disney news. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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Are you going to the San Diego Comicon this week? Will be a spectacular one! [ Reply | More ]
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I agree! So excited! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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What sort of "news" comes out about Disney? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Lots! News rides, shows, movie release announcements, new show announcements, special events at the parks, new hotel offerings, new character meet and greets, stuff like that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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Also new restaurant openings, new product lines, awards Disney wins, educational programs and museum openings Disney participates in, imagineering convention news and guest speaker announcements, fan meetup conventions, new website changes and offerings, key figure changes in the company, new theme park policies, them park attendance trends, character appearances outside of the parks at non-Disney events, etc [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
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wut da fuq? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:51 PM Flag
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Rollins. I enjoy math puzzles. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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you arent smart but you wish you were. [ Reply | More ]
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hmm, well I was smart enough for medical school. [ Reply | More ]
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GW. I've never performed in a theater group, but I enjoy watching musical theater performances most weekends. [ Reply | More ]
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UCLA. Pretty sure I've watched over 100 Netflix shows from start to finish since I first got Netflix 10 years ago. [ Reply | More ]
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Introverted, socially awkward [ Reply | More ]
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Georgetown. I am a huge sports fan (football, basketball, soccer, baseball) [ Reply | More ]
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Michigan State. I have four kids. [ Reply | More ]
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Outdoorsy mom who loves camping? [ Reply | More ]
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Macalester. I really enjoy cooking - find it creative and calming. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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You sound like someone I would like :) [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
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Thanks! Well I'm a size 12 so I've already been told today that at least one person on UB wouldn't want to talk with me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:33 PM Flag
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they're UB lying. At the very least they would love for you to make them feel thinner [ Reply | More ]
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Ha [ Reply | More ]
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I went to Smith. Most of my classmates were SLUG but I was not [ Reply | More ]
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you know you want to at least try it ;) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:36 PM Flag
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I went to Smith too. Laurel Touby (founder of Media Bistro) stroked my knee once. I was (and am) straight. I think she's straight now too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:37 PM Flag
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Tiny third tier liberal arts college. I love aviation and am about to get my pilot's license. [ Reply | More ]
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You seem adventurous. Trudy from Astronaut Wives. Kickass feminist with a cheating DH you think you're too good for and probably are [ Reply | More ]
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Bucknell. I love getting dressed upish and going to museums. [ Reply | More ]
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That's cute. I imagine you having really elaborate doll tea parties with your DDs [ Reply | More ]
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Princeton. I love to sew craftsy stuff [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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NYU: I enjoy spiritual workshops and bettering myself in every way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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except I can't kick my UB habit during lunch break. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:34 PM Flag
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What happens in spiritual workshops? Meditation and mindfulness exercises? Praying? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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It depends on the workshop but yes meditation and mindfulness exercises mostly. No praying. Not that I have anything against that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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You smoke a lot of weed [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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That is in the mindlessness workshops. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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harvard - love puzzles, reading children's literature, and bargain shopping. [ Reply | More ]
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hey, you're me! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:27 PM Flag
[ - ] I’m 7 months pregnant and recently found out SIL is 4 months pregnant. My pregnancy was planned and I had a MC right before this pregnancy. SIL was aware of the MC and is aware we are trying. MIL had agreed and offered to help watch my DC from M-F before we found out SIL is also pregnant. Thing is by the time I give birth and finish maternity leave is when I need my MIL and that’s when SIL will be giving birth. I highly doubt MIL will be able to take care of two newborns, and even if she wants to, she can’t be at two places at the same time. I am really annoyed at the whole situation and it’s just unnecessary stress. SIL is younger and it was never on her radar to have kids. I feel like she did this to spite us. We haven’t talked to MIL about if she is still able to watch my DC. Should I bring it up or just let it be and see how things go when time comes? 44 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:10 PM Flag
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I almost never say this, but get a grip. Your SIL didn't decide to have a baby to spite you. Figure out child care after you have DB (congrats btw) as you have no idea what you will want, until it happens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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right? step off, OP. the world does not revolve around you. (np) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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This. Wow. If the onky reason you chose to have a DB was because of the free childcare, maybe it is you who needs to rethink things. And you are right. Women have a special bond with their mothers. MIL will not want to watch your DB if you try in any way to imply that you had dibs on her time and she can't also help her DD. you need to show maximum flexibility not to forever be the bad guy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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op: never once said i decided to have DC because of free childcare. not sure where that came from. also never said i wouldnt get my own nanny. i'm just saying the situation is annoying and if i should plan back up [ Reply | More ]
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That's not your tone at all. I was making a point with the free childcare bit. You seem really entitled. Yes, you should make a plan b that immediately becomes your plan a. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:50 PM Flag
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OMG, THIS!! Could you be MORE self centered??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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i really doubt your SIL planned this out to spite you. And ask your husband about how/whether to approach his mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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It's hard to believe someone would get pregnant to spite someone. I'd proceed as if MIL will watch her grandchild as planned and be calm as a lake if she renegs (which saying she will watch two is the same as reneging) with a back-up plan at the ready. [ Reply | More ]
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I also agree. if she says she can watch both it won't work and she is renegging. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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This has to be a joke! Pay for child care. Lord! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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SIL is MIL daughter? You lose. sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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kind of sucks for OP, but true unless this girl is staying home with her baby. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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I doubt SIL got pregnant to spite you. I would just assume MIL will continue to watch DB (SIL may SAH, you never know) but start looking for a backup plan now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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You sound ridiculous. "wasn't on her radar"? people can change their minds or shift life patterns without getting permission from their SILs. also, M-F childcare from an (unpaid?) family members is asking a lot. a couple weeks in, i bet the arrangement would be fraying, other grandbaby or not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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she wanted a baby, end of story. Is this SIL her daughter? If so, you may want to make other plans. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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your DH should ask if she is still able to watch. Is your SIL working? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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You need to calm down. I really don't think your SIL got preg to spite you -be happy that your DB will have a cousin so close in age! I am sure MIL will honor her commitment, or at least you will figure out something that works for all of you. Just let it be. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Your mother in law doesn't owe you child care. Of course she will assist her daughter over you, if at all. Man up and hire help or be prepared for more turmoil. This whole post is ridic, maybe you are just being hormonal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Not OP but I don't agree with this at all... Why would she choose her daughter over her son? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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Do you have siblings? What would your mom do if you and your brother were having Dbs at the same time. Are your grandparents still living? Which grandmother do you see more of/is more comfortable in your home? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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Yes I have siblings and can't imagine my mother choosing my DB over my brother's. She would be equally as excited for both. More so, my SIL doesn't have kids but also cannot see my MIL thinking this way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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You aren't really answering the question. If you both asked her to take care of your DBs what would she do? What about your own grandmothers - who do you see most/who is most relaxed and at home in your parents house? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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Do you have siblings? What would your mom do if you and your brother were having Dbs at the same time. Are your grandparents still living? Which grandmother do you see more of/is more comfortable in your home? [ Reply | More ]
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She would pick her Daughter that's for sure. I don't blame OP for being upset, the situation kind of sucks. I would say hire a mother's helper to help granny with both kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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FFS. You are wildly self involved. Not even a huge narcissist would have kids to spite you. Stiff happens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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^^. Stuff happens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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I like "stiff happens" better. lol! think about it. Stiff happens and then you're pregnant :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:35 PM Flag
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np: fwiw, i know lots of siblings who weren't thinking about getting pg and then did not to spite their sibling but more in a jealous of the attention kind of way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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How do your know your SIL will even want your MIL to watch her child? Maybe she is going to be a SAHM? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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You're freakin' psycho [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:27 PM Flag
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I am sorry and I sympathize. I really do. But your MIL will put her daughter before you. It is normal. I think you should start looking for a caregiver as soon as possible. Life doesn't always run smoothly, but I am sure you'll manage. Most of us do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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You are hormonal. You don't hear yourself. Have DH ask his mother if she still wants to watch your DC, but honestly, that can go south so fast....better to arrange for daycare or a nanny like a normal person. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:36 PM Flag
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OP: maybe SIL didn't do it to spite me, but I feel like there's something else. She just took her LSAT last month and is planning to go to law school. Her job requires her to get a JD. She's also very career driven. I just found the whole timing questionable. Especially she got pg right after MIL announced she wants to take care of DC. I didn't originally plan on MIL taking care of DC, but she insisted and offered. I thought everything was set and now 2 months to go, I have an extra unnecessary thing to worry about. SIL is MIL's daughter [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:36 PM Flag
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Really? What's wrong with you? If she got pregnant now it was almost certainly an accident. If not, so what? Pivot, adjust and move on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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And again, your baby is your problem. Get childcare. You MIL owes you nothing. Discuss with your husband and find a solution that does not involve making relatives your unpaid servants. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:43 PM Flag
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Let's play this out. If she just took her LSATs, she isn't starting law school until Sept 2016. Her DB will be @10 mos old by then. Graduate school is one of the better times to have a DB. You have far more flexibility than as a WOHP. Maybe this was her plan all along but she kept mom on it. I didn't tell a soul until I was at 12 weeks. Altnenatively, maybe she just realized all of this and got pregnant first try OR it was a complete accident but she doesn't want to abort. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:48 PM Flag
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OP: SIL say she's going to law school part time while working full time so the firm will pay for her tuition. She knew she needs a law degree at this job the past 2 years. They been married for 6 yrs and every time the in laws nag her about kids. She says no kids. Maybe I am just being hormonal but this whole situation is just annoying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:00 PM Flag
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Wow. You are an absolute nut. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:53 PM Flag
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You're a nutjob. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:02 PM Flag
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Holy shit. You are a grad A narcissist. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:52 PM Flag
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This is what you should do: Say to your MIL that you really appreciate her offer to watch your DB full-time, but now that she has another grandchild coming, you know that she will want to modify this. Tell her that you'd love to have her spend as much time as she would like with your DB, but you realize that you will have to arrange for child care. DO NOT try to hold her to her earlier commitment. Not fair. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:15 PM Flag
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*raising my arm with the solution* You are absolutely right. She did it to spite you. Kidnap her and force her to have an abortion. Problem solved. You'll feel better after. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:41 PM Flag
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Better yet, carve the baby out of her tummy with a machete. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:42 PM Flag
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Whoa. You're crazy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Another beach house question - a dear friend bought a fixer upper a couple of years ago. She had me over for a weekend before she redid the whole place, and then again sort of midway. She hasn't invited me over since but then again hasn't invited anyone over for a weekend. The only people I know who have gone have invited themselves. Is this the way it's done? I would never suggest a weekend to come or fish for an invite. We are still dear friends but I find the whole thing quite odd. Or is this more common than I thought? 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:10 PM Flag
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Perhaps she is just really busy working on the renovation and doesn't want to host? I would just call and say "how is the renovation coming I'm excited to see the finished result or help in any way I can." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:11 PM Flag
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this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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The reno is has been done for a year and your suggestion sounds like I'm fishing for an invite. I just find the whole thing strange. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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why strange? maybe she is "over" having house guests for a while and just wants to enjoy her newly renovated place before inviting people or she is inviting and it just is not you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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see below. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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that's lame. you can't help with the reno. that's ridiculous. this is a terrible suggestion. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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you are not entitled to a visit to your friend's beach house. it is rude to invite yourself. when she wants to, she will invite you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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This is exactly what I mean in my post. I would never invite myself or make some silly suggestions in hopes of an invite. I'm quite surprised that people do this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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maybe she realized having guests wasnt so fun. why the entitlement? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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How am I entitled? I would never invite myself over, I thought I made that clear in my post...maybe I didn't. Anyway, she has a huge house ( 7 bedrooms) and spends weekends there alone. Why bother getting such a large place for 1? I find it curious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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what you find curious is why you aren't being invited. you feel entitled to be invited. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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I host her a lot. I too have a beach home but other state. So it isn't like I'm envious. I simply find it strange to have a huge home for 1. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:35 PM Flag
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maybe she is having an affair? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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Did you thank her after each invite? Did you reciprocate in any way? Dinner in the city? Did you pick up after yourself, or were you messy? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes & no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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Oh, and I brought some fabulous decorative gifts once I knew what direction she was going in for the reno. It would be nice to seem them in situ, you know? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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nothing wrong with asking how the renovation is going in a friendly sort of way, but it does seem like you are looking for an invite, so maybe you should not ask [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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Just tell her you are free any of such and such weekends and you would love to come out - she can always say sorry she has company those days - I have a beach and just assume others have their own thing going on - it is nice to have good friends over - I will make it a point to tell my good friends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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People do invite themselves and it's incredibly rude. She probably is over having house guests right now. I'm sure she will invite you eventually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Any Dr moms on? Got stitches in my finger last night, then today I just absentmindedly washed my hands after using the ladies room. If I change the dressing will this be ok, or did I really mess up by getting it wet? FWIW, it's damp, not soaked, I pulled my hand out immediately when I realized. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:09 PM Flag
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let it be. will be fine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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hand therapist here. You are fine/ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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outside or inside stitches? what kind of dressing? surgeon mom (you will be fine). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
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Outside stitches. Just cotton and tape around the wound. Thank you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:35 PM Flag
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OR - new dry dressing is fine. i usually tell pts to take down dressing after 2-3 days anyway. for finger, i might keep dressing on a bit longer since harder to keep still while wound is closing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:52 PM Flag
[ - ] Question: do you like peas? 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:09 PM Flag
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Not in my guac [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:10 PM Flag
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That was hilarious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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pea soup and snow peas. Other than that, no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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Yes. Preferably fresh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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Yes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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Nope. Hate them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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only fresh ones [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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I like to eat them with honey, off my knife [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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i eat my peas with honey, i've done it all my life, i don't know why I do it, but it keeps them on the knife. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Do you wish that you were on old Rocky Top, down in the Tennessee hills? Ain't no smoggy smoke on Rocky Top, ain't no telephone bills... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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Yes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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Only 2 ways: with meatloaf, mashed potatoes and onion gravy on a fall evening...or in my summer macaroni salad [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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Thank you all so much for your responses! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:57 PM Flag
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No prob, Sugar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:15 PM Flag
[ - ] What age would you send your child/ren to sleep away camp (8 weeks) and where are you from? (never responses are fine) 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:09 PM Flag
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I do send kids to sleep away but will never do eight weeks even if they ask for it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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OK then what age and for how long? And where are you from? Trying to see if sleep away is really an NYC thing as people are suggesting. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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It's not an NYC thing, it's a jewish thing, mainly, and used to be tri-state but as the tribe spreads out so do camps. The history/genesis of summer camps and jews is the Polio epidemic. That's why it's so NY centric. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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Interesting. Where/how did you learn that? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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Years and years ago I read an article and found it fascinating and in college actually did a thesis on it. This was pre-interenet. Polio struck urban areas the hardest. At the time the jews were still in NY but had made a little money. They already had the culture of going to 'camps' as families for part of the summer in the catskills. Kids camps started to get the kids out of the city for the families that couldn't just uproot and go themselves. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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Thank you...I love learning about these things! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:08 PM Flag
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Interesting. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:22 PM Flag
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np: really? seriously would love to read about this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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Never planning on it, from NYC moved to burbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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Our camp is 3,6 or 8 weeks. 8 weeks not an option due to family vacation (although I personally always went for 8 weeks). Older DC went summer before 3rd grade, signed up for 3 weeks assuming it would extend to 6 which he did. Younger DC went at 6 for 3 weeks. This IS on the young side and I hadn't planned but DC begged and begged and I relented. Had a great time and is now on 3rd summer (going for 6 weeks). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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^^Whoops - from NYC, grew up in burbs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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i wouldn't do eight weeks but my oldest first went to sleep away at 10. I grew up in michigan. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:21 PM Flag
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I had one of my children who begged to go, and he went for 8 years every summer. My other kids had no interest and did other things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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Maybe a week at 9 or 10, I don't think my kids have any interest in traditional sleep away camp, they would maybe do a sleep away sports camp (soccer camp) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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Never or until he makes me send him [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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Not before 8 years old unless there was already an older sib at the same camp. After 8 years old, whenever the dc wants to go. In my oldest dd's case, that meant she went for the first time at 9, because she was begging to go. In my younger dd's case, she's 8 now and isn't going this summer because she doesn't want to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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I'll wait until they are 9-10yo...not sure if we will do a full 8 weeks because I'd like to have some family vacation time in the summer as well, but maybe 4 weeks. NYC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
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2 DCs. DS wanted to go at 7; I let him; he had a blast. DD wasn't ready until 11. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:43 PM Flag
[ - ] Spin off from abuse post down below. I was abused growing up and so was my younger sibling. We didn't know it happened to each other until we were both adults. Most kids never tell. Have you ever been abused, or do you know someone who has? I believe it is more common than people think. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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I was not. I believe a close childhood friend was (by her brother). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:11 PM Flag
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I was and I know other people who went through it as well. I never told anyone as a child, and ITA that many kids never do. Not sure about it being most; I think that would be an impossible stat to prove. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Finally had sex after all these months and it hurt so bad I had to tell DH to stop. WTH?? I thought sex in the third trimester was suppose to be good?!!? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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Try a different position? I couldn't get enough all through pregnancy but YMMV [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:15 PM Flag
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:44 PM Flag
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:44 PM Flag
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:44 PM Flag
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after all these months? havent had it all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:44 PM Flag
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finally had sex? huh - not all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:44 PM Flag
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finally had sex? huh - not all along? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:45 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone else waiting to hear back from a job on this faux-holiday Monday? I am waiting to hear from two: an large consulting firm and a start up. Anxiety! 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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Good luck!! I'm my last week at my soon-to-be-former company! 3.5 days left and counting... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
[ - ] Help me understand this. At my country club today, I was at the pool with some mom friends when I noticed a group of 5-6 yo kids horsing around. I asked them where their parents were, and they said they were playing tennis (courts are a 10 minute walk from the pool). So basically these parents left their small children at the pool, unsupervised, while they went to play tennis. What the fuck? 268 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:43 PM Flag
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Parents today think lifeguards and other parents count as babysitters. It's called new money and not understanding the concept of an au pair. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:44 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:47 PM Flag
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I disagree about the 'new money' thing. 30+ years ago NO ONE would have thought anything of this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:53 PM Flag
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Np. I disagree with you. I am 59 and have belonged to a club since my oldest dc was born 32 years ago. I always had au pairs for my kids, and so did all of my contemporaries. We never let them run around unsupervised. This is a private club I am talking about, not a public facility. Once they were 11 or 12 I gave them more freedom but at 6? Never. Like other people said, it's not fair to the other members. They are not surrogate parents. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:00 PM Flag
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np: that's great - but there are lots of people in this world that cannot afford au pairs! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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Then they should not belong to private clubs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:03 PM Flag
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hahaha -- this! private club membership is not a right! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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If you work you have a real nanny so you don't have an au pair. Most people in NYC want a nanny over an aupair. Are you from here? Did you work and have a nanny? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:44 PM Flag
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This. It's exact the opposite. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:58 PM Flag
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Wrong. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:00 PM Flag
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+20000000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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I think this is kind of normal. Our club established a rule that no children under 10 could be at the pool alone, in order to manage it. Not sure that it is very strictly observed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:07 PM Flag
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Do you realize why they instituted that rule? What makes you so entitled that you think you can break that rule? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:03 PM Flag
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You folks are unhinged. I never said I don't abide by the rule. I have little kids and they are never ever out of my sight! I just meant based on my observation other families don't always observe the 10 year old rule. Jeesh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:03 PM Flag
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You said "kind of normal." It's not normal to break rules. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:04 PM Flag
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I meant that it is kind of normal for kids to have some independence at clubs by a certain age. Our rule is 10, I think people shade around it a bit. Maybe 8 and 9 year olds hang at the pool while mom plays tennis or dad plays golf. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:45 PM Flag
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I don't see the issue here. There were other people at the pool? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:45 PM Flag
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This sounds like one of those camp vs no camp debates. Some people here think this is the point of a club and it's fine (I'm in this camp) and some think children need to be helicoptered at all times. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:52 PM Flag
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They don't need to be helicoptered at all times, but letting your kid run wild around a club is akin to letting them have free reign of a nice restaurant. Everyone hates it when someone else's brats ruin their nice dinner [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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I disagree. A restaurant is not the same as a country club. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:04 PM Flag
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It is similar. Adults pay to have an enjoyable, relaxing time. There are rules and dress codes involved in order to make the experience pleasant for everyone. Kids are allowed, but they are required to respect the rules also. Kids under 12 can't be trusted to do this on their own, so they require supervision. You might call it "helicoptering," but I call it basic courtesy. If you want to give your kids freedom, let them roam at home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:10 PM Flag
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This this this. End thread. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:22 PM Flag
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Sing it, sister [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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Listen, if I want to go to a nice restaurant where people dress up we all do so and my kids behave. If I want to go to a casual restaurant that has a playground outside so kids are free to roam and play, I go there. I think it's the same with clubs. The club I personally grew up going to was family oriented and the kids roamed free. There are still clubs like this and that would be the kind I joined. There are others where it's not appropriate. I would act accordingly depending on which one I was in. Everyone's assuming that because it's a country club it's by definition like a fancy restaurant. I disagree with this assessment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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Op. The club I am talking about is the "fancy kind." I didn't pay a 100k initiation fee to work as a babysitter. I know the kind of laid back swim club you are referring to. That is a different story, though I still believe a 6 yo should be supervised at the pool [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:28 PM Flag
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Kids roamed free is not the same as kids in the pool unsupervsied. Sorry, it's just not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:58 PM Flag
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They are the same type of parent that would freak out if the kid ate a strawberry that wasn't organic, or ate a brownie. Yet, they leave small children unsupervised around a pool. Rich people are twisted. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:33 PM Flag
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This x10000000! They are paranoid about all the wrong things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:58 PM Flag
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Exactly. Then they wonder why the kids are all screwed up later. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:02 PM Flag
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rein. It's a horsemanship term and is not connected with royalty. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:54 PM Flag
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Isn't that the entire point of clubs? Kids can roam free and are safe. They have likely all been able to swim since they were 2-3 and with that concern out of the way, why would they need to supervise? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:45 PM Flag
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Omg, NO! That is not the "point" of a country club! I hope you do not belong to a club. Jesus Christ. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:46 PM Flag
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^^btw I am not op. But this is just so...hilarious and frightening, at the same time [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:46 PM Flag
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Swim and tennis club. Yes, this is one of the benefits. Kids go to tennis and you sit by the pool. They come over for lunch when finished. Then, they might get in the pool. You might stay or do something else at the club but you do not need to be there the whole time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:48 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:50 PM Flag
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Yeah they go to tennis where they are being taught by tennis pros. They are not running wild unsupervised around the courts (though unfortunately I have seen this happen). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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They're in a tennis class, right? Not the same. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:52 PM Flag
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But after that it is. You are at the club together but not physically supervising them 100% of the time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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If your kid is 12, fine, but at 6, your kid needs to be supervised. I can't believe I have to tell you this. You are probably one of the families everyone complains about. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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+100 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:59 PM Flag
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Insulting me doesn't make you right. You're suggesting that a pack of mothers helpers should be trialling the 9yos around the club? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:01 PM Flag
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AGAIN, let me explain to you the difference between a 9 yo wandering the club and a 5 yo at the pool... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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Why are you fixating on 9yo v5yo? How about 7yo? Up above you said 12 and are already backing down to 9 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:09 PM Flag
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I never said 12. I actually probably start at 9 because that's when I became a latchkey kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Well as long as everything revolves around you and your own subjective opinions based on your own personal history. Lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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np. DINDINGDING! This is the correct answer. 5- and 6-year-old kids, as per OP's first post, should not be running loose at the country club or any other public place, and least of all when there's a pool involved. WTF are their parents thinking?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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This this this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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Are you or are you not superivising a 5 yo at the pool? Because letting a 9 yo goto a tennis lesson by herself is not the same thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:00 PM Flag
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This lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:00 PM Flag
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7, 8? You are fixating on the 5yo guess OP made and agreeing with someone who says that 12 is the age when this first becomes appropriate. If there was a 5yo, one of the other kids was probably a 7-8yo older sibling. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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OP said "a group of 5-6 yo" I interpreted that to mean no older siblings. OP can clarify. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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Op. There were no children above 6 in the group. I know this for a fact, because one of the nearby patrons asked the kids how old they were! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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I dont' know why people are not getting this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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If they are small children, you should be supervising them. People are probably annoyed that you are so neglectful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:34 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:05 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:53 PM Flag
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I agree. Basically you are paying for a resort experience. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:00 PM Flag
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Exactly [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:01 PM Flag
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Uh....it's not appropriate at a resort, either. The lifeguards is not your child's babysitter! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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I think that children around the age of 8 can be responsible for themselves in a safe environment. They can swim, sign their own names for lunch and get changed themselves. I don't think a child needs a babysittere in that situation. W e can agree to disagree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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Disagree. You should see how an unsupervised 8 yo behaves. They don't know the rules. They throw their ball on the beach and knock over your drink. They run across the tennis court during a match between adult members. They roughhouse, fall off the deck, cut their knee requiring stitches, and the 14 yo lifeguard practically has a nervous breakdown trying to track down the bleeding child's parents. It's not right. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:08 PM Flag
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np: what kind of 8yo do you have????? neither of my boys would do any of these things at 5yo, let alone 8! and our lifeguards are all over 18, so not prone to nervous breakdowns for injuries that are to be expected. they also enforce no roughhousing or running on the pool deck! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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Lol! You would be surprised what your kids do when you're not around. Typical clueless parent. I've seen it all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
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^^especially when they are in a group. They treat the club like it's their own private summer camp [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:42 PM Flag
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why is the assumption that my kids are not behaved if I am not around? our club is the kind of place where the owner would say something to me if that was the case! he knows all kids by name and who their parents are. and he will reprimand the ones that act up, as will the lifeguards. it's a very family place - but 98% of the time, 98% of the kids are really well-behaved - the 5yos AND the teens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:56 PM Flag
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My 5 yo DS would not behave like this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:44 PM Flag
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That's what you think. Do you people not realize kids act differently when parents are nowhere in sight? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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Well, you know what? 1. You can't know that for a fact, and 2. Even if yours wouldn't, many would. Which is why there are rules at private clubs about exactly this sort of thing. Kids under 12 must be supervised. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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Of course kids under 12 must be supervised. I was simply disagreeing that an 8 yo would knock over someone's drink. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:50 PM Flag
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It can happen easily if playing ball too close to members. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:51 PM Flag
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Agree 1000%. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Heavens to Betsy! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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OR, perhaps there's more than one type of country club. I know several that this is EXACTLY the point. The parents want a safe place for kids to play while they relax and get adult time. They intentionally join that type of club. Obviously you belong to a different kind, and good for you, but what makes the other kind 'bad'?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Wow. No, the point of a club is for adults and families to enjoy swimming, golf, dining, and tennis. The point is NOT to allow your kids to roam free without supervision. I grew up belonging to a club, and now belong to 2. My kids are supervised by me or a babysitter 100% of the time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:48 PM Flag
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See reply below. This is what I'm referring to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:49 PM Flag
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This wasn't my experience growing up. When do your kids get freedom? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:49 PM Flag
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At home! Duh. I thought this was obvious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:50 PM Flag
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Kids are free to roam the yard and our neighborhood. They are NOT free to roam a private country club where other members are trying to enjoy themselves. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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I would think it depends on the club. I would personally ONLY join a club where my kids could do this, else what would be the point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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Um... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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The level of entitlement is amazing [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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This x1000000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:04 PM Flag
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This. My kids "roam" when they are at home, but at a private club, that's not appropriate. It's not fair to the other members, it's rude and classless. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:50 PM Flag
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Don't the other members also have kids who want to play?? I think this is a matter of joining the right club for you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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Helicopter!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:53 PM Flag
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It's not helicoptering, it's practicing basic manners. Do you let your rugrats run wild in a fancy restaurant? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:58 PM Flag
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Wow, angry much?? A restaurant is not the same as a country club AT ALL! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:05 PM Flag
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Lol, actually it's very similar. You are confused. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:07 PM Flag
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Really? I'M 'confused' because I don't agree with you? Uh, Mike Huckabee, is that you??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:10 PM Flag
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You are confused about the role of a private club. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:11 PM Flag
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Oh, sorry, didn't realize you were the expert on every single private club out there. As it happens, I belong to a private club EXACTLY like this. It's laid back, the parents want a fun/safe place for the kids to play and that's what they all do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:26 PM Flag
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NP A 5 yo at a pool by himself (or with fellow 5 yo) is not a safe place. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:35 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:43 PM Flag
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In this case, a restaurant IS the same as a country club. I let my 6 yo do things at home, like being left alone or walking to the neighbor's house, but I do not allow him to roam in a country club where I think he becomes someone else's responsibility. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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DING DING DING [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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np: god forbid people in a club act like a community where everyone keeps an eye out for each other and for each other's kids. he's not "someone else's responsibility" - all kids should be everyone's responsibility. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
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Your kid is not my responsibility, are you fucking high? Signed, private club member. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:43 PM Flag
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Your kid shouldn't be rescued in the pool by someone else because you're playing tennis. If you're changing a diaper and your older kid falls, by all means, I'll pick him up and give him a band aid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:48 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.06.15, 06:01 PM Flag
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your kid is your responsibility first. the parenting is the one shirking responsibility here - not the community. if you want to arrange a club babysitting co-op where you and one of the parents take turns, that is fine. each kid doesn't need a separate parent there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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This x100000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:48 PM Flag
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my club is much nicer than yours. we all look out for each other's kids - whether someone is playing tennis, ran to get lunch or simply in the bathroom. no one feels parents are shirking responsibility because everyone does this. and we're all very friendly. i like my club :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:58 PM Flag
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I belong to a very nice club and don't have kids. I hope you're not expecting me to watch yours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:00 PM Flag
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there's a difference between being expected to "watch" other kids and notifying hte lifeguard if a kid falls down and lifeguard didn't notice. but our club is very family-oriented - almost everyone there is a parent or grandparent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:58 PM Flag
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I am a grandparent and I don't go to our country club to watch other kids. Sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:02 PM Flag
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Yeah, if I am there with my friends and my friends' kids, sure. Some random stranger dumps her kid because she's having a facial? Hell no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:43 PM Flag
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our club doesn't have random strangers - we've all gotten to know each other over the years. and no one just dumps kids and runs off. but yes, plenty go play tennis for an hour. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:02 PM Flag
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So, IOW, your situation (all friends, no ditching) is nothing like the one OP described (kids no one recognized, left unsupervised) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:33 PM Flag
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my point is that if there were kids whom i didn't know at the pool, i would not assume that their mom dumped them on ME or that it was a burden on my that they were there or that if something happened like one of them scraping a knee, that somehow it was this huge deal to track down their mom at the tennis courts. or that it was ruining my day. i would assume that it was the kid of a family i was unfamiliar with. period. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:06 PM Flag
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No - WTF? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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Growing up we'd spend the day at our country club and my friends and I would have the run of the place. We'd be in the pool, go to the playground, then to the snack bar, to the ping pong tables, back to the pool, etc. This was mainly before sleep away so I had to be younger than 9. My father was probably playing golf for most of that time and my mother sitting with her friends relaxing. The pool had lifeguards, the whole place was fenced - it all seemed fine. We don't belong to a country club now but once my kids were strong enough swimmers I think I'd be comfortable enough to let them do this now. Maybe not at 5, and so I'm wondering if you're estimating the ages wrong, or if perhaps the 5yo was with an older sibling. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:47 PM Flag
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This is not appropriate. I saw an unsupervised 6 yo cut her leg badly one day, and of course all the unrelated adults had to go running around with bandages trying to find her parents etc. this isn't right. This isn't how I want to spend my day off. Supervise your ankle biters. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:49 PM Flag
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Mine sporadically has staff coverage but mainly staff aren't good at watching the kids and fear the wrath of the parents if they discipline them. I have no issue telling kids to knock it off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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Staff should not have to "watch" anyone's kids! That is not their job. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:52 PM Flag
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^^people need to be told to hire babysitters, I guess. All these new money finance people think their private club is like Brighton beach or something. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:52 PM Flag
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Well - this is what we ALL did, every day, all the families at the club, so clearly it WAS appropriate. Maybe your club wasn't like this, because the families there didn't want that atmosphere, but the families at our club did. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:07 PM Flag
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This must have been a public "club." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:08 PM Flag
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No, private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:27 PM Flag
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You're really embracing that 'takes a village' concept, huh? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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9 is not 5 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:51 PM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:53 PM Flag
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YOUNGER than 9, I said in my post--i started sleepaway at 9 which means I was doing this probably from 5-8. I probably had less freedom at 5 than I did at 8. My guess is the OP is misjudging the age of the kids. I highly doubt there were 5 5-yo's alone in pool with parents playing tennis. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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Younger than 9 is not the same as 5! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:59 PM Flag
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OP is just guessing. 6 is old enough. 5yo is a mixed bag [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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OP is just guessing. 6 is old enough. 5yo is a mixed bag [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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Same here. This was at a very "proper" exclusive club in the suburbs. We were a pack of 7-10 year olds and the place was ours to roam. Moms were by the pool and playing tennis. No one minded. It was the normal course of events, staff got us off the patio if we were being disruptive and kicked us out of the clubhouse if we walked in with wet swim suits. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:54 PM Flag
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...Also we rode our bikes there and back from home without helmets. Sometimes we walked the few blocks to town on our own. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:56 PM Flag
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At 5? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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NO, at 7-10 as I wrote. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:59 PM Flag
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Exactly. My 6 yo walked around the block with some 10 year olds. I don't let him goto the pool unsupervised. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:01 PM Flag
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You are not getting it. These things are fine. I let my kids ride bikes all over the place. I do NOT let my 6 yo run wild at our private club, where other adult members are trying to find some peace and quiet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:59 PM Flag
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I think it depends on the club. If a club is more of an adult focus, then yes, you're correct. If it's a family club then it is probably ok. Also, the OP didn't say the kids were running wild. All these examples of kids running across tennis courts, getting hurt, needing stitches. As far as I can tell it was a group of kids playing in the pool and the OP was bothered by it on principal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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You realize anything can happen with a group of unsupervised 6 yos at a pool?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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First, the OP is guessing at age. I doubt it was a group of 6 year olds. Second, anything can happen to anyone. The debate so far hasn't been about safety, it's been about appropriateness of behavior. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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Op. They were 6! This was confirmed because another parent asked for their ages. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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^^i believe it was 1 5 yo and 3 6 yos. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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OK, let's say it's the most kid friendly country club. Would you let a 5 yo in the pool unsupervised? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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I was a latchkey kid at 9 I was not roaming the pool at 5 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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NP: this is the way our pool & tennis club works. kids over 5yo pretty much run free, but usually with older siblings or older friends. everyone looks out for everyone else's kids and doesn't see it as some huge burden - everyone wants to be able to play tennis or read a book or get lunch or run an errand. serious injuries are very rare (and to the extend I've seen them always happen to older kids who are not following rules or doing something risky like fancy dives) and lifeguard deals with scrapes and bruises that come up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:01 PM Flag
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What kind of club is this? There are some members at my club who think this is "how it works"...but actually, it doesn't, and they might be getting the pink slip soon... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:05 PM Flag
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There are all different kinds of clubs. In teh town I grew up in there is a pool club where kids more or less run free. You have to live there to join and you have to pay to join. There's tennis and golf (thought golf is in a separate area). I actually just asked my friend if it's the same as when we grew up and she says yes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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That sounds like a public facility. Very different from a private country club. We belong to both. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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This one is probably more of a hybrid. It's not public, you have to pay but membership is based on geography. It's a very wealthy area so its fairly self selecting in that sense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:29 PM Flag
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nope - this has always been how it worked. smaller pool & tennis club in a more middle class area. not the kind of place where anyone would talk about members getting "pink slipped" - the kind of place where owner just likes nice families - no need to be sponsored, etc. no super high fees. a family-friendly place :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:13 PM Flag
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Ah. This is not the kind of club we are talking about. This sounds more like a public town "club." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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it's not, just not as "fancy" as other clubs bc in a less affluent area. still private - not open to the public. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:31 PM Flag
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This group didn't appear to have older siblings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:07 PM Flag
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This group didn't appear to have older siblings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:07 PM Flag
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Me too. When I was 11, I was dropped off at the club every day with my three younger brothers. It was fine, and lots of fun. And all the other kids there were supervising their younger sibs. Back in the day ... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:25 PM Flag
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Op. It is appropriate for a 12 yo to supervise younger siblings. It is not appropriate for a group of 5-6 year olds to go to the pool unsupervised. I would argue this is true for any pool. But especially true for a private club. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:09 PM Flag
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I've posted this before but my parents left me in a resort at 6 yrs old for 3 hrs. I had run of the place including the pool. If the kid is a good swimmer and well behaved, I don't think it's a problem. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:55 PM Flag
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Omg [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:59 PM Flag
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Will it blow your mind further to know it was in Puerto Rico? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:01 PM Flag
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It just makes me think your parents are idiots. Apple doesn't fall far... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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No they are quite intelligent, as am I. I don't think dc are well behaved enough to do this but if they were I would allow it to happen. If my parents had been there, they wouldn't have been keeping a closer eye on me than the lifeguard [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:05 PM Flag
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Lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:05 PM Flag
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But if you had gotten hurt, your parents would have been there to come to your aid. If parents aren't there, other people take on this role and its frankly not fair. They are paying members, not babysitters. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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Good lord. Skilled swimmers (of all ages) drown all the time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:02 PM Flag
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This. All it takes is for someone to bang their head. Which is not unlikely if we are talking about a pack of 6 year olds. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:04 PM Flag
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Kids need to be actively supervised by someone who is directly responsible for them and who knows what drowning looks like: http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/family/2013/06/rescuing_drowning_children_how_to_know_when_someone_is_in_trouble_in_the.html [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:12 PM Flag
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Yes - with parents right next to them. I was a lifeguard from 16-21 and I can tell you that most people don't know what drowning looks like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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np: is that not the point of having life guards? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:10 PM Flag
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Doesn't the club have a policy about which age the kids can be unsupervised? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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Op. Yes, I believe 12 is the cut off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:06 PM Flag
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Ours does. 10. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:08 PM Flag
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I am of two minds here. On the one hand, I get it. My club also has a pack of kids who run wild, throw rocks at each other, take over the playground, and generally cause a menace. But on the other hand, it kind of sucks that I can't enjoy the club either because I spend my entire time there making sure my kid doesn't bother the biddies sitting there by the pool or the mom of an 18 month old who wants her kid to have the run of the place and everyone else has to accommodate her. Your money is no better than mine - you didn't purchase the right to have a quiet, private chair next to the pool where you and your friends can be undisturbed for five hours. If you want that, pony up and buy a beach house. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:14 PM Flag
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^^ And the other thing- why are you sitting BY THE POOL? My club and every other one I've been to has a number of really lovely shaded sitting areas that would be much more appropriate for a bunch of old ladies who want to chat. The idea that you're going to plop yourself at the busiest part of the club and then complain about being bothered by children really says a lot about you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:15 PM Flag
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Maybe they wanted to go swimming? Wtf? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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Come on. You know what this is about. This is not women swimming. It's four women on lounge chairs who camp out right next to the pool every single day yet haven't gotten wet since 1987. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Op here. What? I'm 47 and my youngest is 12. I'm not some old blue-haired grandma, lol. We we're at the pool because we went swimming, after playing a hot game of tennis. My 12 yo has more or less free reign at the club, but when he was 6? Absolutely not. I wasn't bothered by the children, I was bothered by the fact that they were totally unsupervised. The deepest part of the pool is 12 feet. a group of unsupervised 6 yo boys is an accident waiting to happen, and I resent the fact that these parents put the rest of us in the position of surrogate parent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:30 PM Flag
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You put yourself in that position. No one asked you to supervise these kids. But you say - OH LOOK. I HAVE TO GET INVOLVED! No you don't. My kid was in the deep end of the pool at 7 perfectly fine and within his limits. Kids learn to swim at age 3 these days. At our club the six year olds are already on the swim team. No one needs you to save their kids from the pool. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:36 PM Flag
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Np. Wow, you are so clueless. There was a similar situation at my clubwith a group of young unsupervised kids at the beach. One of them fell off the deck and gashed her knee. Parents nowhere in site. Lifeguards running around looking for then. Ambulance was called. It was a huge drama. And you know what? I fucking resented it. Because when something like that happens, you have to get involved if the supervising adults are not there. Don't you get it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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You made yourself get involved. You say yourself that the lifeguards were handling it. I assume there is management available to also get involved? The problem is you want to be part of the action. I'm an EMT. I see kids fall and scrape and bleed at the club all the time. I assess the situation, I see what the staff is doing, and I move along. The issue here is that people seem to assume that being in proximity to a kid means that they are responsible for keeping them safe. That's not the case. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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Haha! "I am an emt." Well guess what I am? I'll give you one guess. Yes, I had to get involved. And yes. I resented it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:46 PM Flag
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Oh, I know!!!! Are you a doctor???? I bet you're a doctor, right? A doctor? Do you tell everyone at the club that you're a doctor? Tell me again how you're a doctor! A real for real doctor? Oh my, everyone, there's a doctor here! A real doctor who even plays tennis and swims, although she'd prefer if you didn't bother her or come around her or have your children near her when she did. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:56 PM Flag
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Wow. Unhinged. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:00 PM Flag
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Doctors are so up their own asses...they are the WORST! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:47 PM Flag
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You actually DON'T have to get involved, and there could be liability issues if you do and it doesn't work out. So just be careful about rushing to someone's aid if the club otherwise has it under control. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:57 PM Flag
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Yes, the 14 yo lifeguard totally had the situation under control. Eye roll. Are you nuts? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:07 PM Flag
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My point is that being the good samaritan -- particularly if you have expertise in the area -- is not without the risk of liability. So, no, you don't HAVE to get involved, and if you do, there could be risks. Know your med mal coverage in good samaritan situations and proceed accordingly when such situations arise. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:39 PM Flag
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You don't get involved when a child is bleeding profusely? You sound stupid. What club do you belong to? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:48 PM Flag
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Do you realize the "lifeguards" and "management" are often high school students?! You think it's okay to "let them handle it?" I would like to know what kind of drugs you are on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:52 PM Flag
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Nnp. I don't have kids yet, but I belong to a private club. You have no right to allow your 6 yo to be unsupervised at the pool. All danger and accident liability aside, I have a right to enjoy the pool too. And a 6 yo kid needs to be supervised, because otherwise he's bound to disturb the adults. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:40 PM Flag
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What club do you belong to? I hope it's not mine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:41 PM Flag
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Did you complain? think you should You are right - it is unacceptable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:36 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:39 PM Flag
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Yes, I filed a complaint. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:01 PM Flag
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Get. A. Babysitter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Right. A babysitter to accompany my kids to the country club, so .... what? I can drink my G&Ts with the girls? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:20 PM Flag
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You said you want to enjoy yourself without worrying about what your kid is doing. The solution (and what we've all done for decades) is to get a mother's helper to watch dc so you can do whatever it is you want to do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:22 PM Flag
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So you'd rather the country club staff and random parents accompany your kids?" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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Apparently she would [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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No kidding [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:38 PM Flag
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I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. You think your child should have free reign to bother the older members? Forget clubs, part of being a good member of SOCIETY in general is respecting others' personal space. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:35 PM Flag
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My extended family is scattered over the east coast and west coast. I have been to many of their clubs. It all depends on the club, at certain ones the expectation is that kids can run free, and at other clubs the expectation is that kids have to be closely supervised [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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It has to do with how many adults know the kids in question. Is it a club where the same families have been members for four generations or is it a club where new people jump in and out? Big difference [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:16 PM Flag
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Op. Many families have been members for generations, but it's the new members who tend to not supervise their dc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:30 PM Flag
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Can they swim? If so, doesn't matter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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Lol idiot [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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so jealous!! I see your green through the screen. sad for you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:27 PM Flag
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I'm jealous that you are an idiot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:32 PM Flag
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Are you JOKING [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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No, she's just an idiot [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:19 PM Flag
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What about Beach Point - located just North of Larchmont - is that a "Free Range" club or are kids expected to be with parents? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:17 PM Flag
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That's a ghetto club where everyone is in the mafia. Who the fuck knows what they do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:18 PM Flag
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Thislololol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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No one is in the Mafia. It is all Jews, not Italians. Seems like you have never been there [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:23 PM Flag
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I've been there. It's not a classy club. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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wtf [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:45 PM Flag
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It's not. See for yourself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:47 PM Flag
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The more expensive the club, the less "free range" it is. At the higher end clubs, your kid absolutely must be supervised. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:53 PM Flag
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I was debating joining the Roslyn Pines Club-- does anyone know if it's like this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:53 PM Flag
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Lmao [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:01 PM Flag
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?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:06 PM Flag
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This is a problem with your club. It has rules for dress, yes? It has established hours where you can and cannot use the pool, right? It has set times for meals, correct? When rules apply, they are stated. So if it's the type of club that wants people to be with their children under a certain age, then it should so state. Take it up with them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:48 PM Flag
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Op. I did. I filed a complaint with the club manager. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:53 PM Flag
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^^the rule, btw, is that children under 12 must be supervised. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:55 PM Flag
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then they need to start enforcing it. Presumably they enacted it for safety reasons, and it's all fun and games until you have an injury. So someone needs to start enforcing the rule. what's the point of having a rule if the club permits it to be violated flagrantly? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:28 PM Flag
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Op. I totally agree. In the past, people respected the rules and this was never an issue. I have noticed that the new, young members try to "get away" with things. I find them rude and entitled, on the whole. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:52 PM Flag
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eh. maybe they are not cognizant of the rules or grew up in clubs that were different. i wouldn't act in a superior way towards them or assume that I am superior. the rules just need to be followed for everyone's safety. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:40 PM Flag
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5 to 6 is too young to be left alone in a pool. It's a safety issue. And I don't care if there's a lifeguard or how well you think your first grader can swim - still too much risk. I was at a pool party where someone let her 5 yo get in the pool alone and he immediately started flailing and I had to help him so he wouldn't go underwater. It's lazy and arrogant to decide kids this age don't need supervision. If they'd been 9 or 10 I would say it was okay. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 06:52 PM Flag
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Get a job [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:26 PM Flag
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Op. I have a job. I took today off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:51 PM Flag
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then myob [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:03 PM Flag
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Wtf? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:04 PM Flag
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The SAHMs are probably the ones doing tennis while their kids are running amuck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:53 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:02 PM Flag
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I was on the swim team at our community club since 5 and starting at 6 my mother never came back. We went to practice, walked home for breakfast, walked back and 10am and stayed until it closed at 7pm. We swam, played on the monkey bars, ate at the snack bar, played ping pong all day every day with no parents. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:53 PM Flag
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^life gaurds were strict and took us too the swim meets without our parents also. Only one incident was a little girl fell through the bars of the high dive and died on the cement. Tragically her mother was there that day. She was not a regular. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 07:58 PM Flag
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Oh honey. Op is talking about a private country club with a $100k initiation fee, not a community swimming pool. The issue is, people like you grow up at the community pool, graduate college, make a ton of money, and then join the $100k club...but treat it like its the community pool, since that's all you know. Get a clue. God damn new money idiots [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:00 PM Flag
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This. Hit the nail on the head. I grew up roaming the community pool too. High-end private clubs are a completely different situation. There are rules about supervision, for good reason. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:03 PM Flag
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yeah, so snobs can feel superior. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:13 PM Flag
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This! Lol. Apples and oranges [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:09 PM Flag
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pp: My point is safety not what is socially appropriate at your particular club. If a kid can swim and there is a lifeguard there is not an issue of safety. The lifeguard is watching your kid better that you sitting on the side drinking your Southside. The op seemed to be concerned about the safety of the children and not the manners of the situation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:29 PM Flag
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There IS a safety issue. A lifeguard cannot watch everyone at the same time. If you have unsupervised small kids at the pool, they are going to behave in ways that are unsafe. They will run on the deck, rough house in the pool, etc. this is how NORMAL 6 yos behave, and this is why they require supervision! You can not lay all the responsibility on the poor 16 yo lifeguard. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:31 PM Flag
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^^And this is why most clubs have a rule, kids under a certain age (usually 10-12) must be supervised! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:34 PM Flag
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pp: I also eventually became a lifeguard and at a pool it is so easy compared to the ocean. The pool is cake. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:38 PM Flag
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What is your iq. I'm gonna guess 90 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:40 PM Flag
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I can't believe you at seriously arguing that it's ok to leave your 6 yo at the pool unsupervised, under the care of a teenage lifeguard whose JOB is NOT to babysit your kid. Jesus h. Christ. What is society coming to??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:42 PM Flag
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I think the op is concerned with both. The safety and manners issues are closely related. It's bad manners in large part because it IS unsafe, and puts other patrons/staff in the position of surrogate babysitter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:33 PM Flag
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Exactly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:34 PM Flag
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+100 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:37 PM Flag
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pp: Oh honey I have been to plenty of country clubs in the 70's and that is how it was. There are not a ton of clubs with a 100k initiation fee unless there is a golf course like the Maidstone and you cant get in with new money anyway. We belong to a nice club now but we are always in the pool as our db is 2. There are plenty of kids in the pool without parents hovering over. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:25 PM Flag
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You are so clueless, I don't even understand why you are commenting on this thread. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:27 PM Flag
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Agree with this. Sorry [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:28 PM Flag
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Parents don't necessarily need to hover, but a 6 yo should have a parent, babysitter, or older siblings (at the very least) in the pool area. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:27 PM Flag
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Not hovering is not the same thing as completely unsupervised and 10 minutes away. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:35 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:36 PM Flag
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pp: The parents are around and I think they do have an age 10 rule but there are 2 life gaurds for regular sized pool and they are very strict about the deep end. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:42 PM Flag
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Yes, the parents are around. Did you even read the op? She said the parents were playing tennis 10 minutes away. [ Reply | More ]
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The parents are not "around," FFS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:14 PM Flag
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So the parents are not hovering but are around. Do you not see the difference between this and letting 5 yo in the pool while you're a 10 min walk away? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:16 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:34 PM Flag
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Name some clubs with the 100k initiation fee? I'm curious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:40 PM Flag
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Np. Westchester country club is one of many i can think of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:41 PM Flag
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Name a few more. I am curious. 100k is expensive. The River club did not even cost that. [ Reply | More ]
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Sounds as though your parents neglected you. A little free range is fine, but all day every day is just weird. [ Reply | More ]
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pp: It was the south and it was hot. What was I supposed to be doing with my mother? She brought all the kids in the neighborhood to the library every Tuesday. I was not going to sit inside w 90 degree heat and play with my mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 08:32 PM Flag
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np: and therein lies the problem w our society today - the notion that kids are not supposed ot spend all day every day w other kids. this is how life has been for centuries - adults w adults, kids w kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 09:15 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone have information regarding essays/parent statements for NYC private preschool applications? I am looking to see if the following schools require an essay or parent statement. Here are the schools: Episcopal, St. Thomas More, REDS, Christ Church, Brick Church, All Souls, Park Avenue Methodist Day School and Madison Avenue Presbyterian Day School. Thank you so much!! 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:43 PM Flag
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NP: I don't have the info you're looking for, but just curious... do you not want to have to write one, or are you opposed to it philosophically? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:54 PM Flag
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Yes: MAP, REDS. Maybe: STMPG [can't remember] No: Rest [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 04:57 PM Flag
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np-stmpg no. but as you probably know, they have geography issues right now anyway, so probably not your safest bet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:25 PM Flag
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the church was allowed to stay and continue in that building, so I'd think the school is fine too. The school has other issues for a different discussion. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:28 PM Flag
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in the olden days, the only ones that made you write an essay on that list were REDS (all about montessori) and MAPDS (the longest, most painful application process ever). but my info is seriously old at this point. so someone may have something more current. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.06.15, 05:24 PM Flag
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still accurate [ Reply | More ]
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