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[ - ] If you are considering applying to Special Music School (SMS) for K next year, don't. Even though it is a public school, the whole process is completely fixed. Most of the children accepted are enrolled as preK students in the music class run by the Director of Admissions or already taking private classes with one of the teachers. Someone should write an expose about that place. 24 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 06.20.08, 04:06 PM Flag
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really? I thought that is was like any other test - very talented dc could screw up and get shut out - just like with IQ tests. My dd, who has perfect pitch, didn't even make it to the second round, but she was sick that day in a bad mood and didn't like the guy who gave her the rhythm part of the test. FWIW, the one dc we know who got in took no private lessons there, as far we know, and not yet picked up an instrument. I think that they actually prefer to take talented dc who they think may not otherwise have the opportunity to develop their talents. I could be wrong though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:29 PM Flag
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NP; was that this year? I think they may have some sibling preference. They certainly are opaque about the process. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:51 PM Flag
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lots of siblings at the school. lots. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 03:53 AM Flag
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But how can you explain the fully-booked preK class taught by the DOA? Maybe one or two new kids squeak in each year, but that's it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:59 PM Flag
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I don't know. I was only speaking of my experience. Is it really true that they are mostly dc who took classes there? I just assumed that my kid got cut because she had a bad day and didn't want to perform. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:14 PM Flag
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I know someone who got in and wasn't taking any music classes. Not connected. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:03 PM Flag
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I didn't know SMS has a prek class. Are you referring to the school that is actually a private school? Lucy Moses? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:30 PM Flag
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That is what she said [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:31 PM Flag
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That sounds terrible. So, they only accept kids who can afford the prek tuition at Lucy Moses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:33 PM Flag
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I don't think that is true, but who knows - nothing would surprise me at this point [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:35 PM Flag
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Totally not true!! Both my DC and my dear friend's DC went to Round 2 at SMS and were wait listed. Dear friend's DC was called this week and declined the spot (going private instead) then we got called and declined(going to very good district G&T instead). We had NO connections and our kids had not taken classes there before. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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But you were wl. All of the people I know with kids there had connections. We were not interested in the school but could have used connections as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 08:06 PM Flag
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We knew NO ONE, NO CONNECTIONS, were w/l any way, and then got an OFFER proving the OP is completely off base with this post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 06:29 AM Flag
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^^^^ Plus OP is telling people not to apply??? Why, DC goes on 2 play dates, big deal, it is STILL worth a shot! Again we knew NO ONE and eventually got offered a spot. We didn't take the spot but it was offered. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 06:31 AM Flag
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how do you know you're going to a district g&t instead? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.29.09, 01:01 PM Flag
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One year they passed out almost 1/2 the places in K. to siblings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 03:52 AM Flag
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so? Nearly every school has sibling preference. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 06:36 AM Flag
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NP: What do you mean, so? This school is supposed to be about being musically gifted. It has only 15 spots to hand out for the whole city. Sibling preference has no place there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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(OR) that was my point. I thought it was outrageous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.25.08, 04:21 AM Flag
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I know every class and it is not true. No class at SMS has half of the class with sibs. RIDICULOUS. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 10.30.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Not true - DF's dd not connected in any way and accepted a place there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 06:34 AM Flag
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Reading through all these posts it seems clear that sometimes SMS takes unconnected kids (just like sometimes Brearley does) but connected kids and siblings have a much better shot. I think they are worried about drop outs, and so families that are known to them and have made some big effort to court them are attractive b/c they are lower risk. It isn't really their stated mission and that part sucks for those of us on the outside. NP [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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COMPLETE BS. we had absolutely NO CONNECTION and got in. The majority of sibs and faculty's children DO NOT get in. One or two sibs at the most every year (some years none) and they completely pass the tests based on their musicality. A huge portion of the music program is funded by private donors who believe in giving musically-gifted children the opportunity to take serious music lessons. How do you think these generous donors would feel if there was an "insider" way to get in? TOTALLY DEFEATS THE PURPOSE of this school. Go and see the kids perform, you will see that they are truly gifted and focused and love their instruments. You can call them and demand your child's score from past year, your child may have been very close to getting in, but if there is one spot left with three kids on the waitlist, obviously two families will be greatly disappointed. I am sorry you had a bitter experience, but PLEASE don't go around posting false accusations without having any proof. It is a very competitive school and not being accepted doesn't mean that your child is not musically-gifted. There are plenty of talented children who do not get in based on the final score but still grow up playing instruments as well as SMS kids. You go ahead and write an expose. There are a ton of families and well-connected folks who had to send their sibs/kids to different schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 10.30.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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I know people on the inside who tell a different story, especially about the relative talent of the siblings. While the school turns away plenty of insiders (only 15 spots) and admits a few prodigious unconnected kids, the bulk of the spots go to people who have been hauling their kids to Lucy Moses since they were in diapers. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.29.09, 11:10 AM Flag
[ - ] wow-this board moves really slow--haven't been on since the change--did most UBers jump ship? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:02 PM Flag
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yup [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:29 PM Flag
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Isn't it insane!!! How can that many people all jump ship? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:52 PM Flag
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Well, when they first made the shift it was pretty sucky--but they have made some adjustments and I'm willing to come back [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:54 PM Flag
[ - ] Is it possible to mainstream an older Pdd-nos child in public school? My dc is high functioning with strong academics 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 06.20.08, 04:01 PM Flag
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I think it really depends on the school, the other kids in the grade. My ds just finished pre-K, high functioning PDD-NOS. He's currently in an inclusion class, I hope one day he will move to mainstream...BUT I know he will have such a hard time socially, he could (like will) have such difficulty w/ kids who just prey on kids like him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:05 PM Flag
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np: I am not sure what pdd-nos is, but I had a 7th grader with multiple disabilities transition from private to mainstream public this year. He has done well. He has been victim to teasing, but so do many kids that have been gen ed their entire lives. It depends on what you want for your child. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 05:21 PM Flag
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I say yes, although I have limited basis for saying so. I simply believe that older children, like in middle school or high school, can have mastered coping mechanisms to help them with the social issues. In the right school, I think you can do it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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be careful about this. He can easily be a target for the other NT kids and he might not have the social skills to deal with them. He might be better off in a highly-acadenic SN setting or integrated setting--unless you work intensively on coping skills. I'd have a neuropsych talk to him before hand to see where he is academically and socially and see if the neuro thinks this is a good idea. You don't want to put him in a position where he is going to be victimized. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 05:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Oh, Hunter - you broke my heart once; why are you doing it AGAIN?!? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 06.20.08, 03:56 PM Flag
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what? what? waht? what happened? I have a dd on w/l there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:05 PM Flag
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Just that they expanded the boys WL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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np: Wow. That is very interesting. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:11 PM Flag
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or: is that true for real? CRAZY! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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don't let it. it is like lotto- you can't win if your don't play, but you can't expect to win just because you play. don't take it personally. signed another hunter shut-out mom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:39 PM Flag
[ - ] Hold the fuck on... G&T is for KINDERGARTEN? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:56 PM Flag
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Yeah, you'd think some of these kids were just accepted to Harvard while others are headed to truck driving school... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:56 PM Flag
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np: LMAO..this is too damn funny but so true [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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wow-are there no deleters on ub anymore? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:58 PM Flag
[ - ] Posted earlier. Asked our nanny to stay 1 extra hour to help put DS to bed. Temp up to 103.5 now. She said no. We have done so much for her including take care of her when she was sick. WTF? 30 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:52 PM Flag
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is she juts not able to tonight or did she have no reaspn other than 'no'? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:52 PM Flag
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you can't put your son to bed? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:53 PM Flag
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She said she can't have her son dropped of at our home from school even though our house is closer to the school than hers. So, she needs to get home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:54 PM Flag
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sounds reasonable to me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:55 PM Flag
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she has kids and you want her to stay late to deal with yours? I don't see how your request was at all reasonable.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:55 PM Flag
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Only because I'm quite sick. I give her days off all the time to take care of her personal appointments. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:56 PM Flag
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so don't do that anymore [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:04 PM Flag
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You are right [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:08 PM Flag
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maybe she had plans [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:53 PM Flag
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She does not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:55 PM Flag
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Picking up her son doesn't count as plans? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:22 PM Flag
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if you're there, why do you need help getting ds to bed? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:53 PM Flag
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I have strep + 103.5 fever and not able to keep food down. DH has been away all week. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:55 PM Flag
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you should have said that at the beginning, you made it sound like ds was sick, not you... I'm sorry that you're so sick, but maybe it was too late to reschedule where son gets dropped off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:57 PM Flag
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Sorry. That's what I thought at first, but I know the carpooler. She would not have minded. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:58 PM Flag
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NP: so sorry! I had the strep misery last week and it was awful! I know exactly how you are feeling. I'd be less likely to be understanding of nanny's needs next time she asks you for a favor. Now you know where you stand with her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:05 PM Flag
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That's a good point and thanks for the nice words [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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I know it's stressful to be sick and take care of kids, but she's your paid employee, and she has fulfilled her obligation to you by staying to her end time. She has her own life and her own problems. I hope you feel better- [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:58 PM Flag
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Then I guess we should stop helping her so much with her personal life -- maybe that's the lesson learned. We help with her son, medical bills, loans and it goes on and on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:58 PM Flag
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if it's freely given, it's freely given. If you expect something from her in return, this has to be explicit. I'm sorry; I wish I could agree with you because you are not feeling well and you are alone and you have a kid, and things suck right now. But don't take it out on nanny. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:00 PM Flag
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I asked her for +1 hour (at 3x pay) in a weak moment, and she asks for help ALL the time and we give it. I think it's quite unkind of her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:02 PM Flag
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np: I agree with op. If the nanny can swing it, she should do it. Sounds like she could but is choosing not to do it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:03 PM Flag
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np: I agree with you. She could have done this one time, especially if you know that her son could have been dropped off at your house. I hope you feel better. I would be a little ticked off too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:07 PM Flag
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Positive thing is you know where things are with your nanny now. Stop doing so much for her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:10 PM Flag
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she probably just didn't want her son to get strep, if you have 103.5 temp than you are contagious, who would want to expose ds to that at the beginning of summer holiday [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:19 PM Flag
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that's what i was thinking [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 08:03 PM Flag
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When my manager asks me to stay late, I can only do so if I can arrange for childcare, etc. It's not as simple as cutting into my down time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:21 PM Flag
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I don't think this employer is just a manager if she's helping the nanny on all the stuff listed above [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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I think you're exaggerating. You have a temp that high as an adult and have "strep" yet you are on the computer bitching about your nanny? No, actually, I think you are lying. Especially because you actually responded to the responses. freak. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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Dude. You're taking your relationship with your nanny way too personally. It's a business relationship. Deal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.22.08, 01:42 PM Flag
[ - ] 7mo who used to love his bath is now in tears during them. Something always seems to happen to upset him and I am so upset - this used to be his favourite part of the day. How can we make it happy again? have toys, etc...he just seems to melt down. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:41 PM Flag
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just make it quick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:12 PM Flag
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Change the time- he sounds over tired, and I agree: make it quick and stop trying to turn it into major playtime [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:13 PM Flag
[ - ] Any reason why there is so much competition among women? I can understand from a biological perspective about competing over men - but schools, kids, jobs, professional/personal success...? What drives us to keep other women down? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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I think competition is natural to allhumans, not just women [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:40 PM Flag
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Good point. But the men I know seem to work more cooperatively, at least at work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:40 PM Flag
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I think you can't generalize from that. People are people. Comprtition is why we evolved. It's a good thing even if it's sometimes annoying [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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i think women are taught to be insecure in order to keep them in the old fashioned place of being subservient. all the attention on clothes, homes, jobs etc etc takes away from the full drive to truly suceed. men are also competitive, but it's of a different sort. no where near as catty and they truly believe they are they best (for the most part). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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ita, this is why I HATE talking with my girl friends about food, diet, trainers, weight, etc. SUCH a waste of human energy over silliness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:43 PM Flag
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i'll talk to my good friends about these things. bc in those cases, it is truly for support. we can air our feelings, insecuirites etc and there no negative competition. thankfully, htese days, i don't have many friends with whom I feel strongly competitive or catty. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:45 PM Flag
[ - ] 5yo dd is doing some alarming behavior. She keeps rolling her eyes back to her head. Ped said on the phone that it is probably a tick and I should ignore but I'm freaking out, she can't make eye contact and doesn't seem OK. Ped appt. Monday but I'm scared! 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:36 PM Flag
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like a seizure or an eye roll of disgust [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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not a seizure because she still talks , but further up than a typical disgust roll [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:41 PM Flag
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i seem to remember someone else i knew had a kid who did the same thing. in that case, it was just a tick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:40 PM Flag
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people say just a tick, but the whole tick thing has me freaking out [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:43 PM Flag
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yeah. definitely. that's what made me remember this story. the mom was freaking out badly bc it looked horrible. take a deep breath. see if dd will take deep breaths with you... adn then you'll go to the doc on Monday. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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if you need to see a neurologist I can recommend Dr. John Wells. We took our dd to see him not too long ago and we thought he was pretty great. Good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:43 PM Flag
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that is, if you are in nyc or nearby [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:45 PM Flag
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The fact that she is still talking to you while doing it is a good sign. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:44 PM Flag
[ - ] SIL distilled dh's last six months of work experience to "So you're working with pygmies..." Fwiw, he was working with indigenous tribes in South and Central america. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:36 PM Flag
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so, he's working with pygmies [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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so he is working with pygmies? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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op here... i have to admit. every time i hear it repeated, i still laugh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:38 PM Flag
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np it is pretty funny [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:40 PM Flag
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i'm not sure if it's funnier as a joke or the fact that she means it as a joke to make fun of dh but has no idea where pygies live. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:43 PM Flag
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^^or that pygmies aren't really called pygmies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:43 PM Flag
[ - ] What, exactly, is G&T? (sorry, but i'm not kidding) 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:32 PM Flag
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Gifted and talented. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:33 PM Flag
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gifted and talented. public schools are required to have special classes for the kids who fall into this category....the kids are considered special needs. in NYC, people have to test into the classrooms and it gets really insane (especially this year) since parents teach the kids about the test and prep them. believe me, it's good reason to leave NYC! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:34 PM Flag
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yeah... we left with the whole hullabalo of getting dd into pre-school. that is just too much for me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:34 PM Flag
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Where'd you move to? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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that's a long story. we had been in central america. left and are now back in the US. but only for a short time. i think we're heading to south america soon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:47 PM Flag
[ - ] Just to put some of these test scores in perspective, my ds took the OLSATS last year AND this year. Last year he scored in the top % and this year he scored average. Which one is the right result? People tell you over and over again that these tests aren't an adequate way to measure a child's possibilities or intelligence. But unless you test your kid TWICE with very different results each time, it may not hit home for you. 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 06.20.08, 03:15 PM Flag
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ITA. Which is why I really am not looking forward to doing this again in 3 yrs for #2. So much of the outcome is luck. This time around, luck was in our favor. What can you do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:19 PM Flag
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my dc scored a 99 both times. some kids are consistent. some are precocious, and when their peers catch up, they are just average [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:22 PM Flag
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OP: I think you missed the point of my post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:23 PM Flag
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I am saying the score may be accurate, but your kids' peers have caught up. that doesn't mean other kids are not gifted as measured by the test [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:33 PM Flag
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np: you totally don't get it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:34 PM Flag
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^^^also the test is longer and has more difficult questions. it is possible that the dc was not able to perform on the version that goes beyond what prepping can do [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:35 PM Flag
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the point is that a test that is relied on by DOE for assessing giftedness and awarding placements in G&T SHOULD NOT produce drastically different results (i.e. beyond the standard range of +-10%) in the same child. OP's kid did not go from being "gifted" to being "average" -- if the test says that there is something wrong with the test. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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NP: this is absolutely right. The main criteria for a successful IQ test is reliability over time. Another criteria is consistency in administration... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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nnp. WRONG again. The results from 1 dc taking the test twice tells you NOTHING about the test's reliabilty/validity. Nothing. WTF is with you people who make these statements when you have no idea what you're talking about? I'm so sick of it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:50 PM Flag
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Agreed that a single example of a swing would not be evidence of a tests failure, but reliability is a criteria of validity. You're charming, though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:54 PM Flag
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Reliability doesn't mean there's zero error. There will always be error. And I'm sorry if you're offended by my tone, but I'm really fed up with the level of cluelessness I see here. It wouldn't be so bad if people who don't understand stats and psychometrics simply posted as if they don't understand it. But the way people post as if they're authorities when they have no idea is so aggravating. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 05:04 PM Flag
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Just because you use the words "stats" and "psychometrics" doesn't prove your point. There are a LOT of specialists in education, cognitive psychology and statisticians who also believe that the randomness of the OLSATs and other measures of intelligence makes them useless and sometimes dangerous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 07:10 AM Flag
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dangerous??? LOL!!!!!!!!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.21.08, 01:33 PM Flag
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nnp. OMG, I get so sick of reading these posts from people who have no idea of what they're talking about. Please. Go take a basic stats class, or better yet, buy yourself a psychometrics 101 textbook and read up. You are absolutely WRONG. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:48 PM Flag
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ITA! I would also add again that developemnt is still at play in 4 yos, which limits the reliability of all these tests, including sb/erbs for a 4 yo [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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I can do better. My dc did very well on OLSATs last year but wait-listed for G&T since no spots available. Tested again this year, and BOMBED the test (e.g. got about 1/3 answers right on the non-verbal part). This despite being told by the tester that dc did extremely well, and her teachers saying that dc is the most likely child to get into G&T from the class. I wrote to DOE to review the test, but doubt I will ever hear from them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 07:13 PM Flag
[ - ] 11 mo ds has had clogged tear ducts since birth. Going to see specialist - anyone BTDT? what is he in for? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:09 PM Flag
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If they want to do surgery I would wait a bit. Both my kids had that, one cleared up after just a few months - one was almost 15 mos. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:27 PM Flag
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I waited, hoping ds' clogged tear duct would claer on its own. Dumb move. He needed to have it prbed under anasthesia at almost age 3. Success rates are better if the probing is done early on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 04:07 PM Flag
[ - ] Want to get out of the city one of the weekends the kids are away at camp. Where can dh and I go? Would love some specific hotel/resort names if possible. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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mayflower inn in ct [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:21 PM Flag
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is it really amazing? I always see it written up in magazines. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:26 PM Flag
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yes, it's pretty amazing. very focused on the spa, though, so if you aren't a spa person I would go somewhere else. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:27 PM Flag
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How is the Boulders in CT - I think it's less $$$ than the Mayflower but don't know much about it. Any other ideas? I'd love to see water if possible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.20.08, 03:30 PM Flag
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