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[ - ] Anyone on tonight by any chance have DS at Camp W in NH? I'm trying to find out a few things. They've cut lots of special programs and virtually no staff are returning this year, yet tuition is almost at 10K. What is going on over there? Are other camps also feeling the recession? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:07 PM Flag
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I work at a day camp in Westchester and, from what I've heard, the economy/recession has hit the entire industry. Some camps raised tuition this year, others didn't...but in the end, most followed the same patterns of enrollment (and everyone reported that full enrollment came much, much later this year). Camp staff generally goes in "cycles" and even the long-timers move-on at one point or another (especially at sleepaway camp, b/c it's hard to put your life on "hold" for 8+ weeks). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:43 PM Flag
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yeah - but i've heard from ds' counselor who i've kept in touch with that staff want to come back but camp doesn't have money to hire them, no equestrian, or ice hockey..this camp is a stretch on us already - we're seriously thinking of doing day camp or cheaper sleepaway, we're paying more for less! and honestly its not even THAT great. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 08:27 PM Flag
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I don't know anything about this camp in particular, so who knows what's going on? If it's not that great and you feel as though DS would be just as happy elsewhere, shop around and see what else is out there. Are these programs part of why you chose the camp? We're not booking a magic show, but I can't imagine that we'll get very many complaints about that (no one chooses our program for this 1 special event)...and it's going to save us a lot. Also keep in mind that DS's counselor might not know the whole story about the staff...maybe they want to return, but the directors don't want them (for whatever reason) and this is the "excuse" that they're using. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 08:51 PM Flag
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Our day camp, at beach near Cape Cod, says everyone is waiting to sign up. We were hoping to do a few weeks, but between me losing job & my brother about to I think we will have too many unemployed adults around the house to rationalize camp. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 01:20 AM Flag
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I think camps must all be suffering. My parents' country club just added a whole kids playground, etc. b/c a lot of the people aren't doing summer camp this year. These people used to send their kids to $$$$ sleepaways. My kids are too young, but I was laid off so I probably would find a 2-4 week option and just watch my kids this summer to save money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:20 AM Flag
[ - ] http://yournabe.com/articles/2009/02/25/forest_hills_ledger/news/forest_hills_ledger_newsiuhukgm02252009.txt 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:53 PM Flag
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Ten students is hardly a school. Too bad, too; I live in FH and was interested. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:55 PM Flag
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It's a different way of thinking about school and socialization. Unless you're predisposed toward this to begin with, there's a lot of "unschooling" involved to understand why this can work. But obviously not for everyone. Good luck in FH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:09 PM Flag
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Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as bitchy. I read the article and thought it was interesting but not for me... mainly was disappointed it hasn't in FH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Do you think some of the more outrageously racist posts are fake? Some bored kid? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:49 PM Flag
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no. I think those post are 100% real. This is an anon. board and ppl can be their true selves here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:50 PM Flag
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I sometimes post things just to get people pissd off and talking, because I'm bored, not racist. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:56 PM Flag
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i'm beginning to think a lot of posts of all kinds are fake... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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Me, too. I just stop responding to the ones that get me riled up because I figure fake, fake, fake. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:07 PM Flag
[ - ] Oh boy I can't wait for the redistribution of wealth! It makes me ill. Now we can pay for big government and everyone who decided they deserved a 46 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:49 PM Flag
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^^McMansion but didn't know how to read their loan documents. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:50 PM Flag
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And the dog park! Don't forget that! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:53 PM Flag
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welcome to a communist welfare state. so depressing. I wonder how all those people who left russia and other communist/socialist nations to come here to live in a democracy feel . . . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:54 PM Flag
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np If you live in NYC with an income the Great One deems of the "rich" variety, you'll end up paying over 50% of your income in city, state and federal taxes. Bet many in the Change We Need and Hope crowd won't be so thrilled with that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:58 PM Flag
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I'm under 250K, but I still don't think it's fair. I wonder how all the Hollywood blowhards who backed him will feel about giving up another 5% and losing their deductions. They're probably not smart enough to figure it out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:04 PM Flag
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Oh, I'm sure it will slip below 250k. At one point, Biden was saying 150k. They'll tax until it's so painful that the truly rich will hide their cash offshore, those with the option to leave will, and everyone else will be broke. Wealth redistribution is the goal, but a lot of wealth will just pull up stakes and leave the country. McCain was SUCH a moron for choosing Sarah Palin and giving Obama the election. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:14 PM Flag
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I already know people that moved their money offshore the day after the election. millions and millions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:17 PM Flag
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Truly rich can't hide their $$$ anymore! They're investigating the Swiss banks now, and then it's off to the Cayman banks! Lawyers will have fun with those trials. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:17 PM Flag
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there's so many more places to hide. wealthy people got that way because of their business smarts. trust me, they will protect themselves, as they should. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:20 PM Flag
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well i wish they would loan a couple of those accounts to me (500K HHI, enough to get taxed the shit out of, but not enough for UBS wealth management :-( [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:24 PM Flag
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get a good tax and or T&E lawyer. If I were rich enough I'd have one myself, they are trained to help the rich. Lots of ways through those 2 avenues to keep more and that will not change even in this administration. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:31 PM Flag
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Right. And the funny part is, the really high profile ones think the tax increases are GREAT--not that they'll be paying them or anything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:30 PM Flag
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why would they think they are great? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:32 PM Flag
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np - because they are classic limousine liberals. put up the front about caring about their fellow man, and they hide their $$ so they don't actually have to GIVE anything to their fellow man [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:35 PM Flag
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You are full of it, and aren't even NP. People like Buffett and Gates give away tons and tons of money, they clearly could not care less about keeping more themselves. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:36 PM Flag
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i'm not talking about buffett and gates; they are exceptions to the rules. i'm talking about the people like the ones who the gov't is now investigating [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:37 PM Flag
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Yet you have no clue whether they are democrats or republicans. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:43 PM Flag
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they are capitalists, so I would guess republicans [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:44 PM Flag
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I'd rather be a Republican than a hypocrite. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:39 PM Flag
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but, wait . . . isn't paying taxes voluntary?? that's what Harry Reid said. that's what I'm going to tell the IRS this year. if Obama's peeps don't have to pay, then why should I? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:18 PM Flag
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LOL so true... either that or I'll just use the Geithner excuse. Oops, my Turbo Tax had a bug in the software! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:21 PM Flag
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Not a Hollywood blowhard. Don't keep any money offshore. Don't have any deductions. Tax increase will have a small effect on our standard of living. And yet, I'm fine with paying more taxes. Go figure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 10:26 PM Flag
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they're simply not continuing the bush tax cuts so that we go back to tax rates in effect during the prosperous clinton admin. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:39 PM Flag
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Having to pay for all these overweight losers is just outrageous [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:57 PM Flag
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LoL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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LOL random observation but okay [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:01 PM Flag
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i can't stand poor people [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:57 PM Flag
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you are gross. we are pretty poor right now, but you are certainly no better than me, as you just proved with your crass comment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:14 PM Flag
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i was making a joke. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:15 PM Flag
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oh ok, very sorry for my comment then. i thought it was serious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:19 PM Flag
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^^^oh and I might add we are not an irresponsible subprimer. we work hard, have no debt, pay all our bills, try to save $ and are doing the best we can due to a lay off and bonus cut this year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:17 PM Flag
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uh, her sarcasm was pretty obvious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:19 PM Flag
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Not really. Did you see the post earlier this week with a poster claiming that poor people are unaffected by this economy b/c they were always poor and will always continue to be poor because they get themselves that way? After reading that, I thought this comment was for real, too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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Interesting how the conservative crowd comes out at night. I was home yesterday during the day (WOHM but sick) and made a similar post and got totally flamed. I'm guessing all the SAHMs are more liberal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:01 PM Flag
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maybe they're not as educated about the facts as people who live in the real world are. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:06 PM Flag
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they don't make any money so why would they care about it being taken away? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:08 PM Flag
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exactly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:10 PM Flag
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thanks for clarifying that you're not a lowly sahm [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:13 PM Flag
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insecure, much? all she said is that they seem more liberal [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:16 PM Flag
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Which is why I never come on UB during the day, even when I have a few spare minutes at work or I'm home. It's all bleeding hearts around here then. If you want to post something just wait until evening when the normal people come out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:29 PM Flag
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There are 3 people on here at night, and most of the 'responses' to this thread are from one person. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:35 PM Flag
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LOL you're the one who comes into *every single* conservative thread and posts that [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:36 PM Flag
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she's a whack job. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:40 PM Flag
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npI've told you several times (including last night) that you're wrong about that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:52 PM Flag
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she's psycho - no one is going to stop her from having her delusions. they obviously fulfill some sort of need. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:55 PM Flag
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I think liberal vs. conservative has a lot less relevance when you start talking about people's paychecks, and not in the abstract. I'm a WOHM making $250K and I'm not excited about a tax increase, but having to pay more would mean that (a) I still have a job and (b) I'm still making roughly what I make now, and both those things being true a year from now is FAR from being a given right now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:42 AM Flag
[ - ] how can i get my daughter to and from pre-k? no bus service to this school, what do people do? any options other than car service? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 02.26.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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the bus. I take the bus every day for a little over a mile to bring my 2 kids to school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:49 PM Flag
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but both my wife and i work, the nanny will have a 6 mo old to care for also. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:50 PM Flag
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drop off DC on the way to work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:50 PM Flag
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ok wife can do that, i start work at 6am, but school is out at like 2:30, so nobody can drive to pick her up. nanny would have to take uptown and crosstown to get to school just to pick her up, with a baby in tow, sounds difficult. trying to find a private bus co. but so far none do this route. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:53 PM Flag
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for a child that young, you need to pay for a cab for your nanny to do pick up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:19 PM Flag
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is ecfs worth this much hassle? should we just wait and apply next year to k? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:45 PM Flag
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No, you shouldn't. You should be happy you have a spot. You'll be so sorry going through the process again! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:55 PM Flag
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you are absolutely right, we are thrilled she got in, but it really seems like we didn't think so clearly about the commute. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 08:01 PM Flag
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What difference does one extra year make? It will be the same commute next year and the year after and the year after. Just give your nanny money for a taxi. What is the problem with that? You don't want a 4 year old on the bus with a bunch of 10 and 11 year olds. Trust me. It's hard enough sometimes for my 7 year old to deal with the older kids on the bus. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:12 AM Flag
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I'm wondering the same thing about another pre-K that for us will be a tough commute. My preschool is so close by, and there are options that start at K that are either close or easier to get to. There's no chance of moving closer to the school. Wondering about committing to going back and forth twice a day 5 days a week for the next several years. Also, thinking it will be too tough for me to be really involved in the school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Good take out places on the UES, anything, thanks 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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Land - Thai on 2nd btwn 82nd and 81st - EAT (also Thai) on 3rd at 81st - awesome. a good resource is menupages.com - you can then pick your neighborhood and type of food - they even have a click on menu of every restaurant [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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Seamlessweb.com has a pickup option. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:08 PM Flag
[ - ] what tier is birch wathen? Town? claremont prep?? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.26.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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10, 8 and 13 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:42 PM Flag
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i love my 13... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:43 PM Flag
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op here: I am serious, are they all second tier or all 3 tier? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:46 PM Flag
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3rd tier [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:47 PM Flag
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Why do you care what some anonymous board thinks? They are all great schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:00 PM Flag
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claremont is 4th tier, really a safety school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:52 PM Flag
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You can get into Claremont whenever you want-- you basically sign up. It if for profit, they just add another class. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:12 AM Flag
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NP: Feel better? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:14 AM Flag
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You don't know what you are talking about! Yes, last year Claremont was able to offer spots to a lot of great kids who got SO because they are new and had space to grow.. but the plan is not to indefinitely keep adding K classes! The goal is to have 7 classes per grade. The building where they are now will become the Lower School and they are renovating a new building for the High School. I actually LOVE the larger size of Claremont for my DC, it was a major perk for us. Larger class/larger school = more diversity, more friends, more resources, better sports and extra curricular activities (lots of kids means more variety of talents and interests). We turned down other accepts and CHOSE Claremont and we are not alone. The school is attracting great families and also great educators who are leaving other top schools for the excitement, potential and energy of an ambitious new school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:04 AM Flag
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-- great families AND great educators (teachers and administrators) who are leaving other NYC privates to join Claremont because they see an opportunity to be part of something really exciting there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:09 AM Flag
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NP: I am a current Claremont parent. There is very little diversity at the school and as far as sports, they have overexpanded to such a degree that until at least the fall of 2010, many of the kids, include many in K, never set foot in the gym. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:00 AM Flag
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^including many in K [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:01 AM Flag
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NP: What grade is your DC? Are you trying to leave? I'm curious because we were SO (still on multiple WLs) and I am seriously considering calling Claremont. Trying to get all the facts, opinions seem to vary wildly! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:19 AM Flag
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My child is in K. We are going elsewhere for first grade. We have not been unhappy there but they have a lot of kinks to work out bc they just overexpanded to a tremendous degree. I think if you manage your expectations, you can be perfectly content there. They way overpromised and undelivered to many of the current K parents. Perhaps they've learned their lesson going forward. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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Thanks for the honesty! GL to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:30 AM Flag
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my DC is leaving as well. not happy with the teaching, feel DC is not challenged, and teaching is very uneven. Kind of sad b/c I love the facilities but that is not enough. ALso I am tired of justifying to friends and colleagues why we chose Claremeont [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:07 AM Flag
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Does it matter? Stop worrying about the tiers. Go with your heart. I've heard BW is great for kids that might need some extra help. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:50 AM Flag
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I know that my friend moved to BW from tt, and vastly prefers the education he is getting now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:55 PM Flag
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We were wl at BWL despite 97 x3 and it didn't move, wound up at Trevor Day and happy but would have taken the spot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 10:31 PM Flag
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what about Town School [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:03 PM Flag
[ - ] cgps or hunter? (assuming $$ not an issue) 41 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.26.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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Hunter [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:41 PM Flag
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If money isn't an issue, your dc is not highly gifted and you live on UWS, CGPS by a long shot. I think when you have a gifted dc you feel compelled to put them in a selective school, and while cgps is selective since its private, nothing about being there will distinguish your kid as being special. also it has loads of bells and whistles, including a pool. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:44 PM Flag
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but won't my gifted dc have a better chance of 'shining' at cgps (big fish, small pond idea) instead of being one among many stars at hunter? and i'd think the avg must have gone way up at cgps in recent years given how impossible the process has become?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:47 PM Flag
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oh, I think cgps is a fine school. I liked it when I looked. thought the HOS was terrific. But, like I said, parents of gifted dcs prefer they be at a school that tells everyone they are gifted or smart or special. so TT/H/A are preferred. CGPS is great, and I am sure there are some smart kids there. so yes, your dc could shine, and be among some smart peers. so if $$ isn't an issue, i would go with it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:51 PM Flag
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also, I think if you live on the westside, why commute to H? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:52 PM Flag
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ITA. Hunter parent here in UWS and it's pain.. morning is ok with school bus but afternoon, either you have to wait at the bus stop around 3:30pm or hire someone else. and difficult to go to after-school program.. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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np - Another UWS Hunter parent here and it's not a pain at all, esp if dc takes the bus. What's the problem with waiting for the afternoon bus? You still have to go pick up dc at a west side school, right? And as for the afterschool program, dc just stays at school and the nanny or one of us picks dc up at the end of the program. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:21 PM Flag
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^^^One of my favorite things is walking through the park after pickup on a nice spring or fall day actually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:22 PM Flag
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At CGPS your gifted dc will be bored to death and become an underachiever. Top colleges don't like underachievers [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:28 PM Flag
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Yet the top kids from CGPS get into them. Go figure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:40 PM Flag
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CGPS gets students into HYP and all the ivies every year so if your child is smart they will do fine. They will be challenged and can be stars at same time. Not everyone from TT gets into a top college....so where your child goes to school is not everything. All the NYC privates are excellent. The TT were much harder to get into in the past, so there was a signif. diff in abillities between students accepted to TT's and say 3rd tiers. However, today, all the schools are so hard to get into the difference between someone accepted to TT and say UB 3rd tier is like the difference between someone getting into Harvard and Cornell. It is insignificant in the long run. It seems more important to me that the child has a balanced life, extracurricular activities, social life, etc. and is overall balanced and happy. All the garbage on this site is not worth reading. I'm outta here! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.02.09, 09:11 PM Flag
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I agree. Students at CGPS are brighter lately and it is more academic. In 10 years, the gradutates there will be getting into the same schools as the TT's. It's super competitive to get into CGPS now and they are sprucing up the academics. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.02.09, 09:12 PM Flag
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Interestingly a couple of the brightest (and nicest, actually) kids in our UWS preschool class are headed to CGPS. They seem very pleased about it. it seems to be on the rise. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:03 PM Flag
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LOL. Said like a true recent off the waiting lister! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 08:43 PM Flag
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I know academically strong DCs at CGPS who are applying out (for MS and HS). CGPS is a very mediocre, 3rd tier private. Academics at CGPS are actually slightly behind PS87's. Hunter, OTOH, is one of the best schools in the country...I did not even apply to CGPS for my DD, who's headed to a tt school this fall [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:26 PM Flag
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but cgps is a decent school, and if you have money, and are not the types of person who thinks your kid needs the highest level academics possible before college, it can be great. kids who are really tops go to top schools like anywhere else. that is the reality. obviously you are one of those parents who would only consider TT or Hunter. I said above that if OP is like you, then go hunter, otherwise dc could be perfectly happy and educated coming out of cgps. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:28 PM Flag
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What you don't seem to realize is that really smart (gifted) DCs get BORED and may act-up at "decent" (i.e., mediocre) schools... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:30 PM Flag
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for those kids hunter may be better...or not. I doubt nothing is going on academically at hunter. if your theory were correct, all the gifted kids in gen eds around the country would be juvenile delinquents and worse. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:34 PM Flag
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meant ...at cgps... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:34 PM Flag
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I think any sane person with a gifted DC would pick Hunter over a 3rd tier private, full of average DCs who couldn't get anywhere else - Anyway let's agree to disagree [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:36 PM Flag
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They are bored and underachieving. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:35 PM Flag
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Disagree strongly. School is improving rapidly, part of the rising tide as it becomes much more desirable and choosy. By the time our kids are ready for MS I don't expect to see much applying out. Facilities unparalleled and excellent sports. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:31 PM Flag
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you could say the same for any nyc school> Hunter is improving too with that logic. The relative order stays the same, CGPS is near the bottom of the barrel among NYC schools [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:33 PM Flag
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Hunter, why settle for making DC a big fish in a small pond? As parents we should be the biggest advocate that your child will do well and be challenged. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:27 PM Flag
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ITA, maybe she should put her DC at Dwight, BWL, or York with that logic [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:29 PM Flag
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oy! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:30 PM Flag
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Good friend from Harvard attended Columbia Prep so I have always thought of it as a good school. She was challenged, but also gained great confidence there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:35 PM Flag
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np: My friend went to Darthmouth after Columbia Prep, not so horrible either. She was happy there too, and that was like 20 years when when it was the pits according to UB. She also said several of her classmates went to Ivies, including HYP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:42 PM Flag
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CGPS grad here. With honors track it was great (5 of us to Ivies); without, it would have been terrible. Don't know whether there still is an honors track, though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 01:57 PM Flag
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when did you graduate? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:21 PM Flag
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Ages ago. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 02:45 AM Flag
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NP: the Hunter police are out tonight. No one else will win this conversation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:38 PM Flag
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I think Simone is on UB typing away [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:39 PM Flag
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no, just an observer who has no dc in this game. seems hunter moms are so convinced they're right that there's no room for other points of view. i wonder what your kids' hunter teachers would say if they read this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:45 PM Flag
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NP: I'm not really sure what you mean by your last sentence. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:10 PM Flag
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Really. Average score at CGPS must be, gulp, 96th instead of 99th percentile. That makes it virtually remedial to this crowd. To OP I would say that if you think DC will be more relaxed and happier, go for it. Both are great opportunities. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:41 PM Flag
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CGPS has a complete sibling policy (any sibling gets in) - so no, average ERB is 90 tops [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:43 PM Flag
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Seems to me that the posts are tied 3-3, aren't they? What do you mean by Hunter police? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:11 PM Flag
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FWIW, CGPS has much better college advising. Hunter college advising really sucks. The parents I know there are very unhappy with it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:36 PM Flag
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Hunter parent of recent grad....college guidance was excellent. Helped us pick our list...what more do you want? Great exmissions. These kids know how to fill out their own applications and write the essays. My ds did better than I could have. That's what is great about Hunter. These kids are ready for the world when they get out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 05:09 AM Flag
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np - Dc isn't at that stage yet, but I've heard the same - that people are satisfied with college guidance there. And, I would assume, that those who aren't hire private college counselors. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 08:12 AM Flag
[ - ] Repost. My db was born in July so won't be eligible for a lot of the preschool 2's programs. Should I put him in a 2's program at the JCC or Riverside Montessori (if he gets in) - will it help or not get into a 3's programs at a preschool? I am SAHM, so don't need to. Thx! 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:26 PM Flag
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Doesn't make a difference for admission to the first year of nursery school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:28 PM Flag
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OP: Thank you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:29 PM Flag
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ita. save your money. a 2.2 yo ds is too young for preschool [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:32 PM Flag
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I dont think JCC takes if under 2.7 - unless you have a sib there... I think it helps with the 3s program if that is the school you are applying to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:38 PM Flag
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The Nursery School has a "young 2's program" that's for sibs only, but the JCC itself has an "almost preschool" program that's open to the public. I don't think it really matters in terms of getting into school, but my daughter really benefitted from the socialization of a "pre-nursery" program (we did Poppyseed). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:10 PM Flag
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We have a July dd and we did the 2x2 program at 14th St. Y - she was ready for it and had a great time. It was definitely worth doing. Moved on to a "real" (non-FCFS) program the following year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:01 AM Flag
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i think some type of separation program for those dcs who aren't really eligible for preschool until over 3 yo is a good idea. whether you start in september or in january though doesn't matter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:07 AM Flag
[ - ] so did center school agree to move into ps9? seems to have dropped off the ub map. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.26.09, 06:26 PM Flag
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I don't think they ever agreed, but were told to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:30 PM Flag
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are they taking legal action? what does ps9 think? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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Nope they are moving over the summer to start in the new location in the fall. The administration of both schools seem to be okay with it now, means more space for both. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:03 PM Flag
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what is center school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:02 PM Flag
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At Center's website, it says they're moving [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:27 PM Flag
[ - ] what is the worst bonus you've ever received? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:24 PM Flag
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ZERO [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:24 PM Flag
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mine was $100 when i was a receptionist, my boss was a bitch and hated me [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:24 PM Flag
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you should've told her to keep it! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:26 PM Flag
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isn't 100 better than nothing? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:28 PM Flag
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zero every year of my working life [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:25 PM Flag
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stock that is now worthless [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:27 PM Flag
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Bonus? What bonus? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:30 PM Flag
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people who receive serious bonuses not touching this one [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:08 PM Flag
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The one that cost me money. (Got discounted stock options, exercised but didn't sell immediately, stock ended up underwater, still had to pay taxes on the phantom gain.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 10:37 PM Flag
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Then it's your own fault. You took on the risk of holding on to that stock when you could easily have cashed out and made a profit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:08 AM Flag
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My coworker who was a sales assistant at a brokerage got a box of chocolate from her broker. All the other brokers in the firm gave their assistants some type of bonus. She was totally cheap! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 11:56 PM Flag
[ - ] I'm new to this site and have grown obsessed with it. I need to know what you people do for a living that you can afford to send your dc to private schools that cost 15k/yr and live in 1M+ penthouse apartments on the upper east side. Curious and Jealous. 62 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:14 PM Flag
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where do you live? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:15 PM Flag
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What private is only 15k a year? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:15 PM Flag
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sorry, those are some of the daycares. i know tt are 30k+ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:27 PM Flag
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not just TT's. Most of them! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:37 PM Flag
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price doesn't change according to tier. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 05:14 PM Flag
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Most are hedge funders wives. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:16 PM Flag
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LMAO! Sign my eldest kid up for that 15k private! That's what my #2 dc's 2.5 hour 2s program costs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:17 PM Flag
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at least now you can get a penthouse for 1m [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:19 PM Flag
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That $1m penthouse probably comes with live-in butler and nanny. Super! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:20 PM Flag
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and i'm interested in you. what's your story? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:18 PM Flag
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I live in a rural, fast growing section of PA, 90 miles from NYC. Most of the people who have moved tot his area commut into the city for work. (myself not included). So as an outsider looking in to this world of excess, I have always wondered, "what do these people do for a living?". What are these schools really like and the kids that go there. So much insanity over getting children into nursery schools at 2 yrs old. It's all so very different from the world I grew up and still live in. I'm married, have to ds that go to a very nice public school and live a relativly happy, quiet existence. I'm just very curious on the life stlye you all live in. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:31 PM Flag
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I live in a nice Brooklyn city neighborhood, lots of artsy families (although getting expensive) who send kids to local public school. The private school crowd, especially the UBers, is a very small portion of NYC. There are families both very rich (by most standards) and middle class who probably live a very similar life to yours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:37 PM Flag
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You are not judgemental at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:39 PM Flag
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I live here, and also wonder the same thing. I make a decent living, and if I lived where you live, I would likely live very well. as it stands, I am only MC in nYC. I see so many people here who are able to afford so much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:41 PM Flag
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If you lived where the poster lived, you and your partner might not make what you make here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:45 PM Flag
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hence the problem. guess i am MC anywhere I might move. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:54 PM Flag
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sounds like a nice life, actually. don't be jealous. life is really hard in new york city, even if you have the expensive apartment and the private schools. what does everyone do? well, that's changing, because it used to be most of the really rich people were wall street types. you are watching, from a distance, the collapse of an entire way of life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:46 PM Flag
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I grew up in a small, rural town and live in NYC now with my husband and two kids, and all I can tell you is, the world of opportunity here is mind-blowing. The schools in NYC, which many seem to take for granted, are completely off-the-hook in terms of the course offerings, facilities, arts, etc. Science labs are state-of-the-art; kids go the the Metropolitan Museum to study art and to do other coursework; assemblies include performances by Juilliard musicians; school chapels include top-of-the-line organs. It is all really amazing and totally over-the-top. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:47 PM Flag
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i agree [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:50 PM Flag
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Not all of us NYC women are "stereotypical UB." Our HHI is only slightly over 100K, live in regular old one bedroom not on the UES, will likely send DC to parochial school, no world of excess for us. I like UB because I find the women more intelligent than other mom websites and its NYC-based. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:49 PM Flag
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Here's my story. We love raising our family in NYC. We're not millionaires. We worked our asses off to buy property, still work our asses off to make a good life for our family. We are lucky. The property we own brings in more than enough money for us to send our DC to private school and save for college. The public schools in our neighborhood are sub-par and I'd never send my DC there but he doesn't "qualify" for the selective public schools. We're not spoiled, entitled, snobby stereotyped people.. we're simply trying to do the best we can for our child. I'd bet a LOT of the women here could say exactly the same thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:55 PM Flag
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Yes, this is the story of a lot of us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:08 PM Flag
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I am one whose lifestyle you describe. First DH is a hedge fund manager (has an apt > 12 mln), second has normal job but family money. My own income is also very high and I can spend all of it on myself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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You are funny. Where do you live? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:19 PM Flag
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In the Poconos. And reading over my posts, I realized I type to fast, I'm not a horrible speller, lol. It's just that sometimes when I'm bored, I look at luxury real estate in NYC and wonder how people can afford these places that cost millions of dollars, buy Chanel everything, send thier kids to such expensive schools (the only part of it I wish I could do) and have beach houses in the Hamptons, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:43 PM Flag
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Don't be jealous, new poster. Hang tight. Help will be forthcoming once your paycheck goes up by thirteen bucks each week. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:25 PM Flag
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funny [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:26 PM Flag
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ha ha [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:32 PM Flag
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funny? you wonder why people hate NYers [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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come on, that was clever and politically current. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:44 PM Flag
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as the original poster, i agree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:06 PM Flag
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it was a little more witty than bitchy, but just a little [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:08 PM Flag
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We are just a bunch of obsessive people. Only those survive (and like it) here. When you are obsessive you are not happy but usually get what you want (money included). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:37 PM Flag
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Have you browsed through some of the nastier posts? Just know we're not all like that. Some of us live in (gasp) an outerborough quite happily send DCs to public school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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I haven't stumbled upon anything to catty. And I have no set sterotypes in mind, just curious. Not jealous, happy with my calm existence. I realize money isn't an open door to happiness. I have a very wealthy sister whos life is in shambles. Paid employees monitor her children, her husband has countless affairs and she pops pills like nobody's business. Me, our HHI is only 65K (not bad for our area) my husband is a doting father and wonderful partner, and my children will hopefully realize one day that while I wish to instill ambition in them and success, I'd put happieness at the top of the list of things I want most for them. Like most people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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OK, you sound way too normal for UB. Our HHI is probably just a little higher than yours, adjusted for the area of course. Some of these private school discussions down right frighten me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:03 PM Flag
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Some people have jobs that they truly enjoy, that happen to pay a whole lot. Like you, they are also doting parents who show kindness and love to their families everyday. Some people enjoy the vibrancy of the city, others the calm of the country. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:07 PM Flag
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As much as I love the calmness of this life, I'd love the hustle of the city and all the culture and the amazing oppurtunities. However, the endearing dh mentioned previously will hear none of it. He wants our kids raised here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:16 PM Flag
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he is sensible, it sucks here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:26 PM Flag
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Why doesn't anyone just answer her question: Ok - I will go first. My dh is a partner in a big law firm. I am a SAHM. He makes over a $1m a year so we can easily afford to send our dcs to tt private schools. I love NYC and would never want to leave. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:58 PM Flag
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I just answered above (1st DH Wall Street, 2nd family money). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:04 PM Flag
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just curious - and what do you do yourself? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:12 PM Flag
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I'm in management, nothing fancy. I 'skipped' a semester in college when I became pregnant with dc #1 and never went back like I said I would. That was years ago and now I am enrolled in business managemtn at local university in hioes that I can one day afford life in the city. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:20 PM Flag
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hopes, not hioes. oops. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:34 PM Flag
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I you ask me - (two dhs) - I am a senior manager in (former) investment bank. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:31 PM Flag
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thanks... i like you! I didn't mean to sound ignorant and portray an attitude that I think no one works for what they have, I was just curious to know what it's like to have access to these things in life, how you get there, and what sort of occupations people who can do these things have. [ Reply | More ]
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You're so right. OK, I'll go 2nd. I live in Forest Hills, Queens. I WOHM at a nonprofit, $100k. DH works at a law firm, $200k. DB not old enough for school yet but we plan on PS. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:05 PM Flag
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i work in PR, don't live in Manhattan, can't afford private school and struggle to pay my nanny. when it comes to my dc starting school i will either have to move to get her into the best public school i can or ask DH's parents for help. he and his brothers all went to public school and there is some money there so it may be that his parents want to contribute to their only grandchild's education. however, if we weren't in NYC and the public schools weren't so bad i wouldn't even think about private education. i like the idea of my child mixing with all kinds of kids and seeing the world as very varied. however, the NYC schools are so bad that i wouldn't want to risk her education for some diversity. so, it's moving closer to PS 29 or having grandpa help. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:07 PM Flag
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I wonder the same thing as OP (what the heck do you do to make HHI to buy $1m APARTMENT). We live in Brooklyn in a Brownstone (we rent 2 floors and live on 2 floors). We got it at a very (relatively) low price and gutted the entire thing and had the backyard done on a local nyc makeover show :-) I make close to $100K in advertising... DH makes $120K at a nonprofit (use to be on wall street). We have a nanny (DB is 12 months). We may send him to a new charter PS for pre K... We are both from the suburbs (LI and CT). I would LOVE to move back to the burbs... DH loves the low taxes in Brooklyn so we'll just have to see... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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As for us, we worked our butts off (coming from families making under 30k), went to public school, killed ourselves in high school to get into Ivy league colleges, then got good jobs in consulting and finance. Put 50K down on a 1 million condo, don't live in a great public school district so send our kids to private (for 33k a year each). It's expensive but we love the city. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:10 PM Flag
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YOU PUT 50k down on a 1 million condo?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:24 AM Flag
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my dh made 1.6 m last year, i make about 300K. will have first ds in K and one in pre-k for a total of 50K, we own our apt in the uws, but not that fancy, take nice vacations but don't spend too much on other things. am thinking of quitting my dull job but am scared of the economy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:14 PM Flag
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What do you both do? Are those incomes standard for you both? How much are you guys home? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:34 PM Flag
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see, that what i am curious to know. what sort of job does one have where they make 1.6m/yr? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:37 PM Flag
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various wall street jobs pay (or DID pay) like this and much more. hedge fund manager, for sure; managing director at an investment bank; other financial-services-type jobs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:45 AM Flag
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DH is a MD and I work for an educational company (used to be a teacher). HHI is $500k-ish. DH and I both had some inherited $ that we used to pay for our apt. (besides savings). That NY Times article about living on $500k seemed familiar to me -- mortgage, maintenance, nanny, tuition, garage, gym, classes for DC, camp for DC. (No summer house, we usually fly JetBlue, we do have a car -- I work in Westchester -- but not a driver. Not part of the charity-circuit. I don't wear couture -- and DC wear a lot of ON and Children's Place.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 07:17 PM Flag
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That's funny because I often wonder what on earth people in small towns do for a living! If you commute many hours a day to work in a bigger city like nyc or philly, what is your quality of life like? when do you see your kids? how do you spend your weekends? are there museums? are the public schools completely homogenous and everyone looks alike with no diversity? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 09:21 PM Flag
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I personally don't commute. the time away from my family spent in the car wouldn't justify the increase in income. But, it does for lot of people. Thier parents bought a cheap house in the poconos, they leave for work at 4, 5am, get home at 9, 10 pm and thier kids figure out what to do with themselves which usually includes getting into trouble. Not all, but alot. It's been a problem here for quite some time with what the locals call the transplants (families that move here from ny/nj) and bring the city mentality with them. The public school system is actually quite nice. My childrens school resembles an upper scale college campus, and we have the tax bills to prove it. I have nieghbors who pay over 30K/yr just in school taxes, and lot of them send thier kids to privates. To answer your other questions, there are few culteral things to do here, kids get bored. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 04:12 AM Flag
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Dh is on Wall Street & I SAHM for now but may go back into my field, OT next year. The past few years have been good for us so we've been able to buy a nice apartment (not ues). We've managed our money responsibly and don't have a jumbo mortgage so even a few years of pay loss won't be the end of us. We are very fortunate. Have 2 dcs in private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:05 AM Flag
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What do they do? Jack sh*t, professionally. Don't be jealous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:20 AM Flag
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I grew up in Philadelphia and dh in Pittsburgh. No family money. We met in Business School which we paid for ourselves. I workedin commercial real esate and dh is o nt eh magmt (non-revenue team [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:22 AM Flag
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^^^oops dh is a high level manager at an international ban (non revenue side). We bougth our apt in 1997, and struggled to do so. Two kids in private and now I am SAHM/volunteer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:25 AM Flag
[ - ] My db was born in July so won't be eligible for a lot of the preschool 2's programs. Should I put him in a 2's program at the JCC or Riverside Montessori (if he gets in) - will it help or not get into I am SAHM, 3's programs? I am SAHM, so don't need to. Thx! 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:11 PM Flag
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I just went through this. There are tons of preschool-type programs that are really great. The chldren's museums have them, mommy and me type programs, some reggio stuft...I wouldn't worry about helping child get into 3s programs, but my child is social and I'm not, so I've really appreciated these programs. We applied to one preschool. It strung me out. It was so much about how much they did or didn't like me. In a way, I can understand that, but its just not my gig. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:29 AM Flag
[ - ] Is this bad for my health? I take an over the counter sleep aid almost every night. It's the same ingred as Tylenol PM but without the Tylenol. I fee SO much better when I sleep! And no drug hangover. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:07 PM Flag
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I'm guessing that yes it is bad for you but I'm not medically trained. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:20 PM Flag
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you take benadryl every night? because that's what's in tylenol pm. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:20 PM Flag
[ - ] at 6 weeks and my HCG levels are those usually found at 2-3 weeks. My OB won't see me until 10 weeks...does low HCG mean it's likely i'm going to MC? at 6 weeks on my first pregnancy i was throwing up all the time, but this time no MS. Very sore boobs, but nothing else. Is this a sign of a "weak" pregnancy? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Expecting 02.26.09, 06:05 PM Flag
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I m/c'd twice and the best advice I can offer you is not to obsess over this. HCG levels vary widely and is different for everyone. It's more important that they are doubling every 48 hours. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:14 PM Flag
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I don't think so ... HCG levels can differ among different pregnancies. The important thing is for the HCG levels to continue rising. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:17 PM Flag
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I mc when that happened to me. OB said that number was so low that it would only be OK if I was totally wrong about my dates (which I knew I wasn't). Very surprised OB won't see you to do trans vag ultrasound given your HCG level doesn't jibe with number of weeks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:22 PM Flag
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Call your doctor. They will talk to you on the phone and answer your questions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:23 PM Flag
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No idea about HCG levels but I had 2 totally healthy pgs with no symptoms whatsoever except for a growing bump. GL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.26.09, 06:24 PM Flag
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