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[ - ] Anyone know where Letterman's kid is going? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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STOP STALKING [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:05 AM Flag
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Don't they live in connecticut? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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that Fame school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:28 AM Flag
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lol..his kid is only in preK now [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:30 AM Flag
[ - ] Where on the UWS can you sign up for chess lessons for a 5yo? DS is dying to learn how to play and I have twin 1yos. Not going to happen at home. 28 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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have dh teach him [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:07 AM Flag
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completely sexist comment [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:28 AM Flag
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welcome to reality lady [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:33 AM Flag
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ITA. Men are better at these things anyway. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:44 AM Flag
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huh? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:44 AM Flag
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GEEKS R US? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:32 AM Flag
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nasty [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:35 AM Flag
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Try School-Plus. It in the Columbia area on Saturdays. They offer chess as one of their classes. We did it when DS was 4 and 5, but they have hard-core Russian instructors and it was a bit too intense. He lost interest and we didn't push. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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There's an awesome Chess school on Restaurant Row in Hell's Kitchen. Worth the money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:35 AM Flag
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What's it called? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:40 AM Flag
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"Manhattan Chess Club" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:41 AM Flag
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NP, but could you tell me more? We live a few streets down and I'd love to enroll dc somewhere in the neighborhood. I tried googling, no luck [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:35 AM Flag
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I think PS163 has a chess afterschool that may be open to the community. Also 87 afterschool is open to non-school kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:39 AM Flag
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Check on Craig's List. Ii didn't end up using them but found a few people on there who were chess teachers and seemed very qualified. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:44 AM Flag
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What if they're PERV's!!!? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:45 AM Flag
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Well then I wouldn't use them! Seriously, though, you need to check references. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:47 AM Flag
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Or just stay in the room. When Ds had a tutor, not for chess, I stayed in the same room, reading, doing housework, not bothering and not interfering, but around. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:49 AM Flag
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Yes, great idea. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:50 AM Flag
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I taught DS chess and now he plays against the computer -- there are a number of excellent interactive chess PC software packages for youngsters that are very affordable. Hi interest grew quite a bit once we capped his DS/Wii usage to 20 minutes per day. So long as they are going to insist on playing electronic games, it certainly makes sense to encourage chess, etc. Nothing against Mario Bros.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:44 AM Flag
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Yes, there is one by Josh Waitzkin where he talks the kids through the games. Ds loves listening to him talk, even when he's not playing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:48 AM Flag
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There is program held at All Souls on the UES that is well regarded. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:45 AM Flag
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How can I get more information about the All Souls program? Googled it and couldn't find it. TIA! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 11:05 AM Flag
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When our kid wanted to learn at that age, a chess teacher friend (who lives on the wrong coast, alas) suggested a software program: Learn to Play Chess with Fritz and Chesster. It's made for absolute beginners and our kid loved it. Your kid could start with that now while you look for classes. That said, the best way to *keep* the kid interested is if you or dh plays with him. He'll want real opponents soon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:58 AM Flag
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chess kingdom [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:00 AM Flag
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I had DC take lessons over the summer from a teacher who teaches chess in the public schools. He's pretty serious about chess and was $100 per 60-90 min. private lesson, but really taught DC alot in a few lessons. We had to stop because of the cost but if you are interested I can give you his email. He mostly tutors/teaches young kids who want to eventually compete in chess tournaments. In this environment, I bet you could negotiate a better rate at the outset. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:41 AM Flag
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Is he in K or preschool? If you wait til K, I believe most if not all privates and many publics offer it as an afterschool program at the school. And many teach it in school. My dc learned in K at Cathedral where he also learned Chinese chess (not Chinese checkers) as it tied in with the Chinese language study. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 11:07 AM Flag
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PS199 has chess in the afterschool program. Anderson probably has it too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 11:10 AM Flag
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Anderson does have afterschool chess, but it doesn't start until 1st grade. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 01:16 PM Flag
[ - ] any brooklyn moms applying to preschool on? want to speculate wildly with me and worry? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 02.27.09, 06:41 AM Flag
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where did you apply? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:46 AM Flag
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almost all to prek at ongoings and getting really nervous about the whole thing. wish it was just over. I just want dc to have a place to go next year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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We did too but also applied to stand alone preschools. I'm assuming that all the preschool spots will be taken by siblings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:13 AM Flag
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where did you apply? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:16 AM Flag
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Bklyn Hts Montessori, Union Temple, Beth Elohim, and Rivendell for the preschools and Brooklyn Friends, Packer, and Poly Prep for the ongoings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:23 AM Flag
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fyi BH Montessori is technically an ongoing (np) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:31 AM Flag
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OP and we applied to Bklyn Friends, too, for 3s. Do you think there's any hope? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:37 AM Flag
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np: last year only siblings were accepted. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:44 AM Flag
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to the Bklyn Friends 3s program? Seriously? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:45 AM Flag
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Yep. Sibs and legacy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.03.09, 07:17 AM Flag
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anyone have any thoughts on grace church school (brooklyn, not manhattan) the preschool? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:05 AM Flag
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I think it sounds great, but the 2s tuition seemed unreasonable. So much higher than everywhere else. I felt like there would be too great an emphasis on money, which is a shame because I love the church that it is attached to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:16 AM Flag
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oh, sorry I was talking about Plymouth :-). Was never interested in Grace. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:17 AM Flag
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We didn't even make it to round two of the application process at Saint Ann's for the 3's program. It's frustrating since we couldn't even get a tour. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:22 AM Flag
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I think St. Ann's is in a class by itself, no? From everything I hear it's like they don't even interview anyone, just take siblings, period. Closed circle. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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^^so where did you apply? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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It's true-they take very few new families for pre-school, although they do take a few. I think they stopped taking any new families for 4's, because they have to fit in the sibs/legs that they didn't take into the 3's. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:43 AM Flag
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I think Packer is like that too - very few openings for non siblings. However, the difference is they interview every child even if there are only a few spots. I don't know which situation is worse. At least you don't waste your time at Saint Ann's but with Packer, many families have false hopes of getting in. Why would the doa bother wasting her own time with the "juice parties" let alone the families' time? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:56 AM Flag
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because if the doa didn't interview nonsib families what else would she do with her time? she has to fill out her job somehow. i'm totally serious. there are other schools like that in nyc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:02 PM Flag
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Not true. I am one of several non-sibs to get into Packer this year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.03.09, 04:13 PM Flag
[ - ] i am pissed--tax rate going up 5%?? we just reached HHI of 250k--i live so far beneath my means--I would never buy a house that was remotely a stretch--i live in an apartment for christs sake with an $1200 mortgage!! and i have to pay out my nose in taxes for doing the right thing?? BS! 137 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Expecting 02.27.09, 06:41 AM Flag
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guess what? you earn a lot of money. we earn half that and can really use the tax relief. grow up and take on the responsibility you should. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:42 AM Flag
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np Yes, OP, why aren't you willing to give up your hard-earned money to other people who made foolish decisions and don't deserve it? Come on!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:44 AM Flag
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np: the ppl getting a tax break made foolish decisions? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:46 AM Flag
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I am OR and we haven't made any foolish decisions, aren't in debt, etc. we still earn half of OP and could really use a break. your tax hike isn't going to bail out people who took on mortgages they couldn't afford. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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exactly. We earn 100k and could use the break too. The big shots (like oil companies and other corps) have been given too many breaks. The little guy can use a break. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:52 AM Flag
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There is a big difference between earning 250K and what oil company execs earn. Your Marxist like thinking is not going to make the economy any better. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:53 PM Flag
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why should those who don't pay taxes get a tax break? OBAMA SUCKS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:39 PM Flag
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seriously. That is absurd. They probably work for cash and get free healthcare. Not so bad afterall. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:06 PM Flag
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NP: I don't think "rich people are better than poor people and shouldn't have to pay as much" is going to be the winning argument here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:47 AM Flag
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Nobody is saying rich people shouldn't have to pay as much because rich people are already paying a hell of a lot more. I'm saying why increase our taxes (and guess what? we've been hit by this recession too! our salaries are down too!) to support many of those who helped CAUSE this recession with their poor spending habits? I know there are many good, poor citizens out there, but there are many, many undeserving ones too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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I know plenty of people making more than 250K that did some pretty damm stupid things that contributed directly to this recession! There are plenty of underserving rich people out there too. Why don't we spend less time worrying about who is good, who is bad, who is deserving, and who is "lazy and entitled" and more time figuring out how to fix the mess we've jointly made out of our society? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:16 AM Flag
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Some wealthy folk aren't all that bright, huh? People with poor spending habits didn't cause the recession. Guess your grand sense of entitlement has obliterated your common sense [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:35 AM Flag
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do you think the people who decided to teach your children for their career made foolish decisions? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:51 AM Flag
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1) Yes, the ones who didn't make the tough choice to save rather than spend recklessly did. No one is exempt from being foolish, regardless of their profession. 2) Teaching is a 9 month/year job with tenure. Not as much competition, not as many skills required to do a decent enough job that you scrape by. Therefore, the lower salaries. The teachers that truly excel are recognized, paid well, and usually get well-paying summer gigs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:04 AM Flag
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what is the mechanism for the good ones being "paid well"? the best public school teacher still makes union wages. (and that's usually more than private). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:12 AM Flag
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This is an interesting comment in light of all the people in NYC willing to pay upwards of 30K for kids to go to privates. On one hand parents expect schools to get their kids into Ivies and yet, people like you say the people who give your kids the Ivy-worthy education don't have many skills. To me THIS is the problem with our society. The values are all screwed up. Teachers should be valued more, not because they are smarter but because of what they help impart on our children. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 03:34 PM Flag
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grow up and take responsibility for those who probably do not work as hard as I do and make the right choices? Are you a communist?? I am grown uo who takes pretty damn good care of herself and her family! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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you have got to be kidding me. most of the people who earn less than you probably work harder than you ever will, at bad jobs, just to feed their families unhealthy food and live in cramped spaces. you have no sense of civic duty, do you. are you a republican? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:49 AM Flag
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FALSE. People just say that to make themselves feel better. You have no idea what kind of mental pressure people at the top of the food chain go through. Much more stressful than flipping burgers for 12 hours/day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:55 AM Flag
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sorry--civic duty is one thing-but there is such much fraud and nonsense within the systems that our government has set up---so there is a limit of how much i want to "help"--paying for someone who is unfortunate and troubled--sure--paying for services for a ding a ling who has 14 kids that she can't afford--is something else entirely [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:55 AM Flag
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no worries octomom admitted she fucked up so you can give her your $$ now!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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HOw do you know this? HOw do you know how OP got where she is? Maybe she busted her ass too. Stop judging her. She's paying her part. Maybe you want her to just write checks to everyone? You people make me sick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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Oh, please, with your civic duty nonsense. How do you know how hard this person works? Then you give all your money away to everyone else. Who do you think you are putting down anyone who is a republican, anyway? Anyone who is not a liberal/democrat is always wrong and selfish? You really should grow up. Why don't you go pay Octomom's bills? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:58 AM Flag
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WHAT????? I think paying 67% of my salary in taxes is unfair. I'm all for "doing my share" but just because I have a job (and degrees) that pay me a larger salary --- why am I being punished? Ridiculous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:51 AM Flag
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who told you you're paying 67% of your salary when you make $250K? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:52 AM Flag
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sorry - new poster... we are in top tax bracket [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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which is 35% [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:21 AM Flag
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unless, of course, you are a business person who makes tons of money and is paid with options, which is categorized as "capital gains tax" and has a ceiling tax rate of 15%. There are many highly paid professionals who only pay 15% tax, whereas the middle-class people pay 35%. Sounds like the American way :( [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:53 AM Flag
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THAT is the problem. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:51 AM Flag
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You are not paying 67%. Top is 35%. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:37 AM Flag
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np ITA [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:54 AM Flag
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You imply that those who benefit from the tax hike don't have jobs or degrees. Look, I worked hard, too, and I have my masters and a nice job and salary and house, but growing up we were pretty poor and school lunches and student loans and a smaller tax burden helped me get to where I am today. I'd like to think I'm doing the same for a future me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:00 AM Flag
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I agree with you. However, I don't think the government has done such a great job with the 50% of my salary that I've been giving them. I am doing my part - we are continuing to spend money, donate to worthy causes, etc. All I am saying is that at some point, the wealthy are not going to continue to give OVER HALF of their salaries to the government. Sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:02 AM Flag
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I completely agree with you. Everyone loves to blame the banks, but where was the GOVERNMENT in all of this? The ones who are SUPPOSED to make sure that the investors and homebuyers don't get screwed? Where were the fancy guys in the SEC and the Fed doing while the banks decided they could do whatever the fuck the wanted? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:11 AM Flag
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It's hard all around. We do very well, top of the tax bracket but we are going to be paying way too much in taxes --- which in turn, will decrease the amount we can donate to other great causes. I would rather the government allow the people to decide where their expendable income can go. I'm all for doing my part and paying my taxes...but you can't keep punishing the wealthy by increasing their taxes. At some point it's going to backfire because they won't have any money left to give. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:16 AM Flag
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Except do people donate to charitable causes? I'm not questioning you personally, but I believe the U.S. lags far behind other countries in terms of charitable donations AND as a percentage of income, the rich tends to contribute less. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:49 AM Flag
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that's not the way it works [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:04 AM Flag
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what do you mean? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:10 AM Flag
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income tax is graduated, so if you earn $255k, only $5k is taxed at the higher rate [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:13 AM Flag
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^^^and the highest bracket pays 35% [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:17 AM Flag
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np: this is a good point. i think a lot of people don't really understand how taxes work. i bet if she figured out how much of a difference it would be, it's pretty negligible. or at least not enough to make a huge stink about. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:11 AM Flag
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Top 1% will pay at least 100k more. That's a lot (considering they pay a huge percentage of all tax as it is). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:01 AM Flag
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for every extra million, they'll pay another 50k. is that really a lot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:11 AM Flag
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that's a slanted way to say it - b/c you're already losing at least half that mil to taxes - so it's really 450k instead of 500k, that is a lot [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:04 PM Flag
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ITA. Obama's tax plan is PUNITIVE. He's an idiot if he thinks a good percentage of those making over 250k won't simply leave the country (many would qualify to move to Canada under NAFTA--and they'd get "free" health care with taxes that are the same or even less!) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:59 AM Flag
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Most making 250K in NYC make it because they live in the city. Outside the city, their rates would be much lower. Duh! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:57 AM Flag
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What responsibility is OP NOT taking on? How do you know what hours she and DH work? If I choose to work 2 or 3 jobs or longer hours than you, why should I supplement your lazy ass? I'm happy to help people who NEED help (disability etc) and support libraries, the arts, schools etc, and rebuild infrastructure and develop alt-energy. I am NOT happy to help people who made a decision to work less or earn less and then bitch about it night and day. And I'm also not happy to help people who don't want to work or try to better themselves. Flame away bitches. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:57 AM Flag
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np ITA finally some sane people on UB [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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np ITA. It's refreshing. Maybe people are running out of Kool Aid and finally seeing the Emperor for what he is. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:02 AM Flag
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np: curious about your statement that you are not happy to help people who made a decision to earn less. does that mean you are against raising the salaries of police officers and teachers? or are you just getting carried away with your point that if people are working hard and making a lot of money, they shouldn't have to pay too much taxes on it (wherever you want to draw the line from 'fair' to 'too much') [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:04 AM Flag
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What if people are making a lot of money but NOT working hard? Is it OK for them to pay more? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:22 AM Flag
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what are you going to do? get everyone's grades for effort and then adjust their taxes accordingly? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:01 AM Flag
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Yeah, let's draw the line. Teachers and POs can pay less, I'll pay more. Not being sarcastic. But at some point, it DOES become TOO MUCH. Disincentives working ridiculous hours and weekends and taking risks. Screw this shit. I'll work less, make less. See how well that'll all work out. Then I'll pay less taxes and then we'll all be fucked in our new commie country. Happy now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:24 AM Flag
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Not OP, but you know what?? FUCK YOU. Why should hard-working family who works just as hard as you do and pays their bills on time have to pay for anyone else? they should be penalized because they earn more than you? I just hate this liberal commie crap [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:58 AM Flag
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np: b/c that's how taxes work. the higher incomes pay a higher percent. steve forbes floated a flat tax idea and you can bet the high income people were just as adamantly opposed as the lower income voters. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:02 AM Flag
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np And that percentage is too high as it is, thank you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:03 AM Flag
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why is it HER responsibility to take care of anyone but HER family??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:35 PM Flag
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it's like 5k more a yr...this you're bitching over? Yes ppl don't want to pay higher taxes but where do you think the money for repayment of the war was going to come from? This was a KNOWN more than a yr ago when we knew a new administration would inherit this mess. ANYONE who took over was going to have to raise taxes. I don't buy this bullshit that the republicans would have not raised taxes. They would have. Reagan did it in 82..he had to didn't he? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:45 AM Flag
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your taxes are going for health care, medicare, education, etc. we are a society in big trouble because of major wealth inequality. do you not see that? can you really not afford to part with a few thousand dollars more per year? you probably complain that there is no federally funded preschool/maternity leave, too. those things are paid for with taxes in other countries. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:47 AM Flag
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We make $300k a year and I'll be honest and say that we can swing the tax hike. I don't like it but I look around and see so many people are less fortunate than us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:51 AM Flag
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This seems like a reasonable attitude. No one says you have to embrace a tax hike joyfully, but it is important to realize that you are well off. good for you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:53 AM Flag
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Thanks. The way I look at it is, what does 5% mean to me? So I get Chinese food instead of sushi, so I drink less Starbucks. My 5% can do so much more for other families. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:57 AM Flag
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So, the Chinese place and Starbucks have lower sales and pay less tax. Sounds great. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:21 AM Flag
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But Target now has higher sales and pay more tax. It all evens out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:24 AM Flag
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That is true, but when does it stop. We have to remember that here in the tri-state area, we are taxed out the wazoo. I want to know why the govt pays $300 for a toilet seat and why the hospital charges $12 for an aspirin. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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you I like! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:55 AM Flag
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you are a good person and I hope the fact that other people won't be thrown into even worse poverty has a positive effect on you and your family. We do live in a society here, people, and we all sink or swim together to an extent (not to the extent of socialism or communism but do you want to go back to how NYC was in the 70s, 90s?) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:00 AM Flag
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I agree, but I wish the increase could be scaled somehow to reflect the cost of living. $250k in Kansas City in vastly different from $250k in New York City [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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YES - I'm the biggest obamamaniac that I know, and totally get that income/wealth inequality is a massive issue. I absolutely agree though that the $250k threshold has to be scaled differently for Peoria vs. NYC though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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it seems so obvious. I mean you don't even have to live here to get that [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:51 AM Flag
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OK but you are NOT going to earn $250k in Kansas City. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:50 AM Flag
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oh come on...I'm sure lawyers and doctors and corporate executives make that much and more [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:53 AM Flag
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Did you hear about the new breakfast at Denny's, the Octomom Special. 14 eggs, no sausage and the guy next to you pays for it. Tee hee. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:01 AM Flag
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i have two thoughts on this. i don't have any problem with your tax rate increasing by 5%. what i do have a problem with is the reduction of taxes and the tax credits for the lower income families. i think the two together just cancels everything out. why not leave taxes the same for low and middle income families, increase the taxes for incomes above a certain level, and then we can talk about reducing deficits and spending billions on healthcare. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:02 AM Flag
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because the tax levels for the lower middle class is high..too high that makes it unfair. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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i don't know. i'm middle class (income-wise, at least) and i have to say i'm happy with our tax rate. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:13 AM Flag
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^^^ i mean, i'm not going to say "no thanks" if they are willing to lower my rate. and i certainly wouldn't be happy for my rate to go up. no one's ever happy for their rates to go up. i just don't see, at a time when the country is hemorrhaging money, why they are cutting so many people's taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:15 AM Flag
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^^^one more addition to my post. i understand the economic theory, that the more people have, the more they spend. but i just don't think it applies to that many people. the people who are hoarding their money b/c of the economy will do it even if they are paying less taxes. the people who are managing on what they have will continue to manage b/c they'll have the same. the people who are recklessly spending more than they have will do so even if they have more, and those aren't the people we want to be giving more money too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:16 AM Flag
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op here: and I never once said in my post that i had a problem with contributing my share to those in need--I do know the difference and myself have benefitted from social services (which is why i work so hard now).. but there is a limit and the current system and who and how it supports people doesn't work--there is far too much waste and abuse to the system--and yeah--am I pissed that we wasted BILLIONS on an unwinnable war--yes--and I am also pissed that I live in Yonkers and can't even use the school systems and have to pay up the ass in taxes to get a better school district--so yes people i do think it is bullshit! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:10 AM Flag
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I'm with you sister! I think we will be out of here very soon. I need to think about the future of my dc's and my family... not giving more and more to the government to get even less. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:12 AM Flag
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whose fault is it that the school system sucks? The gov't? No..it's closer than you think. It's your Dept. of Education. They need to learn how to spend better. Spend on what's important and and not new desk or furniture for offices [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:13 AM Flag
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but that is the point--i am already paying out the nose on the local level for sub par services--and now it goes further up the chain at the federal level--and I am not allowed to say enough is enough ppl! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:15 AM Flag
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the DOEs need to be scrutinized. They are given way too much ROH..if they have "eyes" on them at all times, things would be better. There are too many cooks in the kitchen..so things never get settled [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:19 AM Flag
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You aren't going to pay an additional 5% on your 250K. After deductions etc it will be much much much less than that, if anything at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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And will you really notice it? I didn't notice Bush's tax cuts. I live comfortably within my means and save. 5% either way is not going to make me make major life changes and like I said, so I buy one less Starbucks and forgo the sushi - so what? What impact does that have on my life as opposed to that 5% going to my parents when I was growing up? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:55 AM Flag
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I'm sure the Starbucks and Japanese restaurant won't be happy you are not going to be patronizing them. So it impacts THEM and their EMPLOYEES. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:18 AM Flag
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I get that, but my 5% will go to someone making $25k and will be used to buy food and pay rent, which will offset the impact on Sushi Zen and Starbucks. AND I can live without my soy mocha, someone making $25k needs housing and food. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:22 AM Flag
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Is that really what you think is going to happen? Please, it's going to get lost in the morass of govt red tape somewhere, lining someone's pocket. But see, here's where I have a problem. Let's say I want to flip burgers p/t, no stress no mess and I make crap money. You want to work 80 hrs a week in a high stress position. Why should YOU supplement ME? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:25 AM Flag
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Shrug. If that's how you feel but there's nothing I can say to change your mind. But forgoing my soy mocha so you'd make rent... I'm okay with that. Maybe it's because of how I grew up with no money. Look, I know that I am where I am today because I worked my butt off and yeah, there are people who are lazy and flip burgers and blow their paycheck on frivolous things, but there are also people like my folks who just worked hard but were immigrants and lacked the opportunities. Sometimes it goes to red tape, sometimes it does good. At the end of the day, it's no skin off my back. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:29 AM Flag
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LMAO! The people to whom your 5% goes are likely to be former Starbucks and Zen Sushi employees needing food stamps because they were laid off on account of lower sales. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:27 AM Flag
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Exactly. These think everything happens in a vacuum. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:23 AM Flag
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I don't think it happens in a vacuum. I'm arguing that the 5% is still being spent but going to different places, but the impact of having the 5% to spend is less on me than someone else. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:25 AM Flag
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Well, how about I don't want to pay for people like Octomom and her 14 kids? If I was in Cali, I'd be hella pissed off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:26 AM Flag
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Apparently the hospital isn't sure it will release all the babies to her unless she can prove she can adequately care for them. I think she figured the cash would be rolling in by now; she must be disappointed that it's not. I think the state should seize ALL the kids and put them up for adoption. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:32 AM Flag
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The impact of your having 5% less to spend WILL affect those in the service sector--so they'll get your money in the end. But in the form of welfare rather than pay. BAD, bad idea. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:29 AM Flag
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Sigh... I was afraid of being taken down this road when I wrote it. I was trying to take dramatic license with the soy mocha. What I should've said is that my 5% gets put in my bank account, which in reality is really what happens. There are consequences to that as well, of course, but at least I won't be arguing about octomom :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:33 AM Flag
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So YOU won't cut back on little things like lattes. But MANY will--particularly around that 251k "let's screw the rich" income. Net effect will be the same. People in service sector and retail losing their jobs or having their hours cut back and requiring govt support to prop themselves up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:13 AM Flag
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I give up, I give up! Issus are way to multi-faceted and complex. Let's talk about octomom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:19 AM Flag
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Issue is that Obama fancies himself to be Big Brother. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:23 AM Flag
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when the top tax rate goes up, you don't pay more on ALL your income, just the income above a certain threshold. perspective people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:45 AM Flag
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Sorry. Oh, actually I'm not. If your HHI is $250K you should pay more in taxes. Get over it. Move if you feel you can't afford NYC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:37 AM Flag
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Welcome to Obama's world. Suddenly McCain/Palin doesn't seem like such a bad choice, eh? You voted him in - - you can vote him out. Write your legislator and tell them to vote NO on Obama's proposed tax increase. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:07 AM Flag
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Lady, the wealthy already pay the VAST majority of all taxes in this country. There's progressive, then there punitive (and that's where Obama's going with this ridiculous plan). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:17 AM Flag
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My DH and I JUST reached the 250K threshold and are definitely not living large in NYC. And we have a DB on the way. I love Obama but it infuriates me that we are going to have to pay higher taxes because we are responsible! 250K in NYC is soooo much different than 250K anywhere else in this country and that should be taken into account! I watch HGTV and pple are buying 5 bdrm houses on 5 acres of land, with a pool and a 5 car garage for 360k. Then, I can see where 250K is considered a lot of $. But in NYC when you live in a 1 bdrm and pay 3800 in rent, and your DB sleeps in a kitchen breakfast nook? COME ON! GIVE US A BREAK!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:50 AM Flag
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Move, seriously. NYC is not for everyone, especially those who can't manage themselves. If you're having to live in a 1 bedroom with that salary, you're either spending huge amounts on something else, or you can't figure out a budget. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:53 AM Flag
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I made $200k last year and we bought a 700k house. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:57 AM Flag
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My mortgage, tax and insurance included, is 3600. Seriously. Do without the fancy address and doorman building. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:01 AM Flag
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So you're one of the people we need to bail out? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:04 AM Flag
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Nope, saved more to boot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:08 AM Flag
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^^ my point was you can do better than 1 bedroom on that income. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:09 AM Flag
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Would like to move, but our jobs are here! And we CAN manage ourselves. We have a gorgeous apt that happens to be a one bdrm. The rents is 3800! And as soon as lease is up, plan on getting a 2bdrm for that price. We are saving a lot of money. I'm just asking, why should we have to pay for pple who aren't responsible. WHEN WE ARE! But you can't tell me that 250K goes as far in NYC as it does anywhere else in the country. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:02 AM Flag
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I didn't say move but I think you can certainly move without leaving NYC at a less desirable address and building with less amenities. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:10 AM Flag
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You're not paying "for people who aren't responsible". Your're paying because you live in a country whose government and private sector have been irresponsible, with devastating consequences for all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:12 AM Flag
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Not true. Yes govt and priv. sector are to blame. But tell me I'm not paying for generations on welfare who keep popping out kids and don't want to better themselves and prefer to live off the govt dole. That's responsible? And that's not a racial remark. It cuts across all lines. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:39 AM Flag
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General Topics 02.27.09, 11:45 AM Flag
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Your taxes aren't CHANGING because millions of people have suddenly become more irresponsible. They're changing because the prior administration and the business community drove this country into the ground with their poor decision-making. And a lot of responsible people with lower means than you are paying the price for that - they are out of work, they are losing their retirement savings, they don't know how they are going to educate their children or even keep food on the table. But you people like you want to blame THEM for this? Because they have a small paycheck than they do, they must be lesser than you? It's truly appalling. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:57 AM Flag
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There are people who ARE responsible, but just lacked the opportunities to move up in the world. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:44 PM Flag
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You're not paying more because you are "responsible" - you are paying more b/c you MAKE more. The tax code doesn't distinguish between "irresponsible" and "responsible" income-earners. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:00 AM Flag
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ITTTTTTA [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:01 AM Flag
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Hmm, go back to high school and think about all the kids that screwed around. Now fast forward to today, generally, they're making less than 250K and those that paid attention, studied, went to college and got good paying jobs are making more than $250. So the tax code is punishing your for doing the right thing. Face it, spending has to be cut dramitically. Tax revenues go up when the tax rate is cut, especially for corporations. Think of how much business is sent overseas to avoid state and federal taxes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 01:17 PM Flag
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does any know what the latest tuition for medical school is? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 03:18 PM Flag
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actually the kids that screwed around are working at hedge funds and the ones that studied are doing alright but nothing compared to their lazy ass friends that went to wall street [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:55 PM Flag
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Where did you get that working class hero clap trap from. The people I know that made a lot of money work 70 plus hours a week and work while on vacation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:03 PM Flag
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Riiiight... ALL wall streeters are dumb and lazy. you just keep ruminating on that while you're on your port-a-potty [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:52 PM Flag
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Well, with pre-tax deductions you should still be under that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 03:35 PM Flag
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what I fail to understand is why everyone assumes that physicians are rolling in money. The average GP or pediatrician makes about 90-100k and still has to pay astronomical student loans. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:54 PM Flag
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And can't write them off, which is the only thing about taxes that really pisses me off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 07:23 AM Flag
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^^^ the interest on them that is . . . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 07:23 AM Flag
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I work in national politics/policy and I will never understand why people believe that their tax dollars are going directly to the great unwashed. The Defense Department gets more money than HHS (which handles welfare), Education, and Agriculture (which handles food stamps) COMBINED. If you're going to direct your anger anywhere, direct it there. Less than 1% of every tax dollar goes to social support programs. So PLEASE get off the golden cross already. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:13 PM Flag
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I guess social security and medicare don't count. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:14 PM Flag
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Medicare is paid for out of the HHS budget and through state tax revenue. Social Security is paid for through Social Security taxes, not the income taxes the OP is talking about. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:19 PM Flag
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Looked at my paycheck and see a deduction from my income to pay social security and medicare. Taxes are taxes. It's the whole package we are railing against. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:21 PM Flag
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Oh PLEASE! If you're going to whine about the "whole package" you're paying, you also need to talk about the whole package that you're getting. The water that comes out of your tap? Federal money helps keep it clean. The cancer research that may one day save your DC's life? Sponsored by federal grants. The airport you fly to Vail from? Built with federal dollars. The trade agreements that allow you to buy imported Prada? Negotiated by federal employees. Of all federal initiatives, why is helping poor people the only thing you choose to care about?! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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Don't forget subsidizing the farm industry so we can have all the high fructose corn syrup we can drink, starting a majorly expensive war with troops all around the world, oh, and bailing out wall street/main street/GM. Plus running the biggest ponzi scheme in the whole world. The federal government rocks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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I like you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 PM Flag
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Exactly! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 07:22 AM Flag
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See the NYTimes story in today's paper. The fine print is that everybody in that income range is already getting hammered with the Alternative Minimum Tax so in reality Obama's tax plan will have very little effect on people in this range. If you'll recall when Bush "lowered'' taxes on people in this income range, nothing actually happened because though the tax rate officially went down the AMT increased in tandem for a net result of zip. Bush's "cuts'' only helped the super rich who make their sh-tloads off stocks and dividends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.28.09, 07:21 AM Flag
[ - ] My nanny is SO frustrating! 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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and?????? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:47 AM Flag
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so fire her [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:48 AM Flag
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small things like she never washes dd's bowl or big things like she refuses to listen to your instructions? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:52 AM Flag
[ - ] How many people do you know personally whose death would make it into the NY Times obituaries? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:34 AM Flag
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^^^oh, and feel free to drop names. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:36 AM Flag
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well...do you mean besides the paid ones? My uncle did. I believe one of the criteria is that the deceased had to have been written about in the NYT during their lifetime. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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This is true. If they ever made news in the TIMES, then they get a news obit. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:53 AM Flag
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DH's grandfather did - he was a Cabinet Secretary. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:42 AM Flag
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dh's grandmother was in NYT obituaries. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:44 AM Flag
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my dad - was big in politics/law - was in the Times when he died. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:46 AM Flag
[ - ] 2 periods in one month? I am always regular. like clockwork. In Jan my period came 4 days early and now I have gotten my period on feb 4th and today - 2x in one month? WTF? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
TTC 02.27.09, 06:30 AM Flag
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cyst? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:32 AM Flag
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My gyn always says don't worry if period is late or missing (in terms of abnormality), just be concerned about extra bleeding. So if I wree you, I'd call my gyn. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:33 AM Flag
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how old are you? [ Reply | More ]
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General Topics 02.27.09, 10:39 AM Flag
[ - ] What to do about 8-year-old ds who hits me? It's such a strange situation. He is the perfect little student in school. Teacher raves about him, says he's her "favorite" (I know, she's not supposed to say that, but she does). He is very well behaved on playdates and in public. But when he is home, he can go either way: He can be just as lovely and charming as he is outside the home, but he also goes into these rages -- pretty much daily -- where, if he is unhappy about something or doesn't get his way -- he shouts, calls me names, and actually HITS me -- HARD. What's going on? Anyone have an interpretation of this kind of dual behavior? TIA. 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:29 AM Flag
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Kids often save their "bad" behavior for home. It's good that he can hold it together so well away from home, but I think you need to openly discuss with him his need to "be himself" at home, but establish firm limits. He's being abusive. There is to be no name-calling, no shouting, no hitting. The consequences must be swift and consistent. He has the ability to modify his behavior to suit expectations, you need to make your expectations firm and clear. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:44 AM Flag
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Hmm. Your point about modifying beh to suit expectations is interesting. I of course do tell him there's no name-calling, hitting, etc. Doesn't seem to help. I do give consequences. Maybe I need suggestions for more effective consequences. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:50 AM Flag
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np: maybe you need more effective consequences but maybe you need to suggest alternatives to his behavior. e.g. he gets mad, he throws something, you punish, he apologizes. that's great but it doesn't necessarily give him the tools to do something different the next time he gets angry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:19 AM Flag
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OP: good point. I have told him to go to his room and punch his pillow. So far he has not done that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:38 AM Flag
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why don't you ask him to come up with an acceptable alternative to hitting. let's face it. he's 8yo. he knows perfectly well hitting is not allowed. from what you say about him, he'd never try it in school. put up a chart on your fridge if you have to. put two sides. on one side you write down behaviors that are not allowed. (or maybe just start with one - the hitting.) on the other side he has to write three alternative behaviors. instead of hitting, if he's mad he should ___________. you might also want to start a reward chart instead of negative consequences. if he does the action on the chart (e.g. he was angry but he didn't hit, instead he said "mom, i'm so angry at you b/c i wanted the green cup and you gave me the red cup", or he went up to his room to calm down, or whatever it is you think is acceptable for dealing with anger) then he gets a star. if he gets five stars, he gets a big treat. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:48 AM Flag
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^^or he went up to his room to calm down, or whatever it is you think is acceptable for dealing with anger) then he gets a star. if he gets five stars, he gets a big treat. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:49 AM Flag
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OP: Thanks. I can impelement some version of this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:52 AM Flag
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ita with this. we had this problem last year. dd was fantastic in school. participated, was lively, a great student to have in the class. played well with other kids, etc. at home she just would lose it. i think she used up all her energy in school and the way she reacts to low energy is by being rude and misbehaving. three things helped: one was making clear my expectations of behavior in our house. i made it clear that it's ok to be tired or sad or not want to talk when she gets home. but that she is required to say hello, not be rude, not hurt other dcs, not throw things, etc. (you ahve to set your own parameters.) i also changed some eating habits...i gave her a snack for the bus home, i had another snack ready for her when she came home, i started giving supper earlier, etc. lastly, i changed my behavior to make sure things were a little calmer when she comes home b/c i saw that's what she needed. good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:09 AM Flag
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^^^ another snack ready for her when she came home, i started giving supper earlier, etc. lastly, i changed my behavior to make sure things were a little calmer when she comes home b/c i saw that's what she needed. good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:10 AM Flag
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this is the best advice I've ever seen on this site. Also, make sure your own behavior is the appropriate modeling. He should see that the way you handle frustration is reasonable and appropriate. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:15 AM Flag
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hit him back [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:54 AM Flag
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Bad idea. My father did it to my dd - in a similar situation, only she was 4 yo - and she still remembers it and doesn't want to visit him. (5yo now). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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your father hit your daughter?...i can't believe i just read that [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:21 AM Flag
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I don't think so. And I don't think you are serious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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you and I have the same ds. Things that have helped are trying to anticipate situations that bring out his rage and planning accordingly, and effective consequences, usually taking away screen time. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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OP: I am so glad to hear that my ds isn't the only one. Sometimes I'm afraid he had borderline personality traits! Outside the home, he is the most charming, well behaved person. He's very afraid of being reprimanded in school. Always follows the rules. Nobody outside would ever believe me if I told them about his behavior inside the home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:18 AM Flag
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I know..it is rough. And when I do give him consequences, he accuses me of hating him. I guess we should be thankful it is only going on at home. And no, it is not because we are letting it go on, as per post below. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:43 AM Flag
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OP: OMG! We have the same son! DS accuses me of hating him. Says I am the worst mother. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:49 AM Flag
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As a child psychologist, this is totally unacceptable behavior and it's happening largely because you are letting it happen. You need to have boundaries that absolutely prohibit anger being manifested in this way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:27 AM Flag
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np: hey child psychologist (doubtful), have you ever heard of free will? Agree op needs to get things under control by setting boundaries but you should know it isn't quite as easy as "prohibiting" the behavior. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:33 AM Flag
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nnp: there's someone here (ore more than one someone) who posts that she's a child psychologist whose advice i always find questionable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:38 AM Flag
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OP: OF course it's unacceptable. I tell him that every day. I send him to his room. I take away screen time. I take away playdates. He tells me that sometimes he feels like he just HAS to hit me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:37 AM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone slept with a man who seems to never get *fully* erect? even when totally excited, and can come and everything? dating someone like this now, it's odd. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:26 AM Flag
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Maybe he has an issue like a blockage or something and should get help - seriously - I think this is a sign of cancer right? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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alarmist. maybe not - [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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i did in college. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
[ - ] Well-known couples where the wife is older/less attractive than the man. Go: 51 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Hugh Jackman and Debroah-Lee Furness. [ Reply | More ]
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yeah, but isn't she a beard? [ Reply | More ]
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more like a merkin! [ Reply | More ]
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Ha! [ Reply | More ]
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no. they met very long time ago; whe was huge and he was a nobody. rose colored glasses [ Reply | More ]
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He's gay. [ Reply | More ]
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Pierce Brosnan and Keely Shaye-Smith [ Reply | More ]
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ooh, good one. and makes me like PB so much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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she used to be georgeos. She's slipped a lot! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:18 AM Flag
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she has an autoimmune disorder. The medication she takes makes her overweight and bloated, it's not her fault. [ Reply | More ]
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i think he still is gorgeous, just bigger-sized. and i am not big-sized, but i think she looks great, very bountiful. and i think she is much younger than he is -- his last, late wife was the older one. all makes him seem like a supremely cool guy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:41 AM Flag
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Sting and Trudie Styler. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:32 AM Flag
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really? I don't consider her lacking in attractiveness. She keeps herself groomed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:33 AM Flag
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groomed I guess, but looks like a horse. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:35 AM Flag
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and a wealthy and satisfied horse i bet she is. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:38 AM Flag
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wow really says something that there are so few of these, vs. thousands of older/unattractive men with younger beautiful wives. damn, things are so cockeyed still in our society. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:32 AM Flag
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They say money brings attractiveness to an unattractive person. That's how the ugly men can attract the beautiful woman. Unfortunately there are not many independently wealthy ugly women. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:35 AM Flag
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older: susan sarandon, demi moore. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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older there are many. James McAvoy and his wife are 9 years apart. Billy Crudup & Mary Louise Parker (before break-up) were 7 years apart. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:38 AM Flag
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yeah, i don't think older is so uncommon anymore, which is cool [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:39 AM Flag
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so Pierce Brosnan is the only true gemutlich in the world of celebrities. Makes me love him more. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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You like him because he's still with his fat wife? Who knows if they're really even "together" anymore or if he's fucking everyone else in sight. Maybe just a marriage of convenience. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:41 AM Flag
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what's so convenient about having a fat smart wife? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:45 AM Flag
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Someone to make your house comfortable, buy things for you according to your own taste, accompany you to events etc. It's not so uncommon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:49 AM Flag
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WOW i just looked up her pics online and holy cow! (literally) it really cracks me up when celebrities or celebrity spouses, whose one requirement is to look good for the paparazzi and premieres, start accumulating lard. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:51 AM Flag
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That's awful. Do you really think that? Do people really think like this? She's not a celebrity spouse. Why is it her job to look good? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:52 AM Flag
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maybe he loves her for her mind and her personality. That would only be her job if she were a trophy wife, which she isn't. She came to the marriage with a career. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:56 AM Flag
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She is SICK. Not just fat, sick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:34 AM Flag
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You are horrible. Yes, she's fat, but she's still beautiful imo. Why we harshing on these women? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:24 AM Flag
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You are jealous because your dh is a nobody and so are you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:23 AM Flag
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comments like this make me fear I know you or someone like you IRL and just don't realize how horrible you are. you're a sick, stupid chick. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:43 AM Flag
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Come on, is she really fat? I think she is like a size 10 or 12. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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you don't consider that fat? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:20 AM Flag
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Nah. Who cares? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:46 AM Flag
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Paul Newman & Joanne Woodward - but she's goodlooking. It's just thatt I don't know of any woman as equally goodlooking as he was. hope that makes sense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:53 AM Flag
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No, it's a good example. Paul Newman was gorgeous. Joanne Woodward is attractive (and was when younger), but not beautiful -- never got the ingenue roles, for example, even when young. So there were women as attractive, who were the "beautiful" starlets of that generation that would have been equal to Newman, but he loved Woodward (and I do believe that he did). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:30 AM Flag
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I think that is a perfect example. They were married for 50 years and complimented each other wonderfully. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 10:16 AM Flag
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Naveen Andrews (from Lost) and Barbara Hershey [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:32 AM Flag
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Barack and Michelle Obama. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:34 AM Flag
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George H W and Barbara [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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before yes but they are even now [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:31 AM Flag
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I think Michelle is pretty hot. Just my opinion. But she's not older than him. I believe she's younger than him by 2 years. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:35 AM Flag
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i think they are pretty well matched lookswise. both attractive but not beautiful [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:30 AM Flag
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err well not that they are married but jenifer aniston and jon mayer [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:44 AM Flag
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This is slightly different, but Prince Charles is the only man I can think of who preferred his older much less attractive mistress to his young beautiful wife. [ Reply | More ]
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Read Philip Roth and you'd believe that there are plenty of guys like this. That said, I don't find Hillary particularly attractive, but Bill was always slumming it with his mistresses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:17 AM Flag
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for a while john edwards and elizabeth edwards, although we all know how that went... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:23 AM Flag
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He's older, but Karen Hughes married someone way more attractive then she is. [ Reply | More ]
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Jon Bon Jovi and his wife. I think they were high school sweethearts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 11:54 AM Flag
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I can think of a couple but I won't even say it! Imagine if you were the poor woman in that situation. She must already be wracked with insecurities, she doesn't need us snarky UBers rubbing it in. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:40 PM Flag
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Denzel Washington and Pauletta Washington. But I think they've been married for 25 years, so maybe she was hotter when she was younger. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:51 PM Flag
[ - ] Does this sound a bit odd/rude? Since preschool started, other parents in dc's class never really made an effort to get to know me or my family. We were the "new family", so in the beginning I knew I had to put myself out there and make the extra effort to be friendly and although other moms were pleasant enough they never really included me in their little "clique". We have never really spoke, just a quick cordial smile and hello at drop off/pick up. Fine whatever, no big deal. I made other friends with other moms in other classes (I still made playdates with dc's classmates and their nannies). Just this week, out of the blue the cliquey moms came over and started talking to me..."Oh I heard dc got into ***! Congrats! blah blah blah." NOW all of a sudden they're interested in our lives, want to hang out, have playdates, etc. What do you think? 45 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 02.27.09, 06:23 AM Flag
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^^ NOW all of a sudden they're interested in our lives, want to hang out, have playdates, etc. What do you think? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:25 AM Flag
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I think you're nuts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:07 AM Flag
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oh you must mean the other mothers who never paid her the time of day are nuts!?!?! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:07 AM Flag
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did your dc get into a tt? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:26 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:26 AM Flag
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then there you go. you're being invited into the clique now. question is whether you want to be a member. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:29 AM Flag
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How did they hear where you kid was accepted? A couple of things: Maybe they're not a clique; maybe they're in comfort-zone acquaintanceships,established playdates, sahm, wahm,common playground friends.Do you live in the same area?Do they have nannies or share other common circumstances, that you may not?,i.e.similar fields,common extracurricular kid activities? Otherwise, maybe they couldn't or didn't read your social efforts correctly. if you care to know these women better,perhaps you should extend the notion of getting together without kids-as women-for a happy hour, sometime. If not, forget it and focus on making dates with the kids your child seems to like. I initiated a girl's date once and it was pretty interesting to level the view-no kids,factions or 'mommy' aura to stand behind. It was easy to tell which women were there because they didn't want to miss any inclusion and which were into being social. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:02 AM Flag
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not op: people talk at my dc's preschool and word gets out very quickly where so and so got in (k) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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what do you mean by "intereseting to level the view"? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:15 AM Flag
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don't bother with those nosey Nellys. They are speaking to you just to find out info. Screw them. It's almost March.. they should have reciprocated your friendliness by now. I was the new mom when my 1st dc went to preschool and it's hard. I'm shy and that made it harder BUT I did persist. I was never included 100% but about 4 of the moms really were nice to me and we even did coffee a few times. Don't bother with these moms..you will be away from them soon enough [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:28 AM Flag
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ITA. Soon you will be starting in on the ground floor with a new set of families. The coffees and meetings start even before Sept, so you are in a good place now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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thanks for the advice! I just don't know what to do. They have been asking me out to have coffee and dc to have playdates all this week and quite frankly I do not want to be rude (we still have another few months there) but I also think what they are doing is really not cool. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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accept a couple of invitations, but keep your boundaries. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:33 AM Flag
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what would you hav done two months ago before all the school nonsense? would you have had coffee with them and playdates with their dcs? if yes, then try it now and try not to talk about k too much. if you don't like it you can always stop. if no, then don't do it now. where your dc goes to k doesnt define who you are and the kind of friends you want to have [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:35 AM Flag
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had they been more friendly/inviting a couple of months ago, yes, I definitely would have hung out with them. but so much time has passed and now their friendship wouldn't seem genuinie...which is why I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not to accept their invitations. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:41 AM Flag
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disgusting [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:29 AM Flag
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I think it's pretty obvious. For some reason they didn't think you were worthy of getting to know earlier and now you have risen in their estimation. It might not be wholly their fault - maybe you were standoffish too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:29 AM Flag
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i don't agree. it doesn't have to be that they judged her and found her unworthy. maybe there was nothing to pique their interest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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ita. people post one side of the story. My op is unapproachable and showed no interest in meeting them because she perceived a clique. I'm not surprised at the responses on the board either. Everyone is so willing to play the victim. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:36 AM Flag
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i think people think there's this club out there and if we have the right ticket, we get in. i thought the sahms had this clique. then i became a sahm and saw it's not true. people are busy. people are involved in their own lives. they have their own friends. now there's something specific that they have to talk about with the op so they are doing it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:12 AM Flag
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I didn't mean unworthy of talking to or anything. Just unworthy of special attention or effort in getting to know her, as you said. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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that's the thing. I really did make an effort in the beginning to get to know ALL of the moms and tried to be friendly especially because we were new. They were nice but kept to themselves and never initiated playdates/get togethers with me or dc. I respected that and moved on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:35 AM Flag
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why was it their responsibility to initiate playdates? You admit that you didn't make an effort. You sound entitled. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:38 AM Flag
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np: you sound like a mom in the clique [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:39 AM Flag
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We're supposed to be adults. I take responsibility for my own behavior and op should take responsibility for hers. If she wanted to get to know someone there was nothing preventing her from walking up to that person and initiating a conversation. If she was here saying she did that and that mom dissed her then fine, but OP admittedly didn't even try. This isn't kindergarten where the new kid gets an assigned welcome buddy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:44 AM Flag
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she did try. read the thread. if you want to know how hard she tried or whether she was genuine you'll have to go out for coffee with her. we can only go by what's written here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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op did say that she made every effort to get to know them. the other moms were the ones who didn't make the effort [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:48 AM Flag
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I did ask to have playdates (but they never worked out - something always "suddenly came up" or they just never responded or gave me clear yes or no answers), and like I said I did make the effort. But after awhile, I wasn't going to chase them around and beg them to be our friends. It was always me having to initiate playdates. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:44 AM Flag
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You saw a clique, but it may not really be. I talk to who I know at school and I smile nicely to those I don't. It is really really hard to walk up to new people and talk. Usually it is some common thread or experience that makes me start talking so it could just be that now they have an 'excuse' to talk to you since you all just went through the same process. My point is it may not be about you at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:30 AM Flag
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I could have written this post! In addition, I had one of the cliquey moms ask me "how did you get in here?" I have been cordial with them because of dc - now they are eager to be with me and my dc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:31 AM Flag
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yes, they just want to pump you for info about how your dc got in. did you prep for erb, who did you use, where else did you apply, fc letter, on and on. gag. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:37 AM Flag
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You just gave me another reason why I don't want to send DC to private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:33 AM Flag
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I think you should look at the whole thing politically... Build a cordial relationship with those who have a dc who'll attend the same school as yours. It'll make things easier in the fall. No need to become bff's, but it'll benefit you to know a few faces come September. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:39 AM Flag
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I am dealing with cliquey moms myself. I am or was one of the cliquey moms whop tried to get to know the new moms but for some reason the other moms weren't interested in getting to know the others. It made it hard for me to 'branch' out. Now, I am n the outs since dc got into another school and we will be leaving our current ongoing school. This mommy thing is uncomfortable. What I have found is that if you are friendly and people respond back those are the ones that are worth your time and effort. The cliquey moms are very insecure and many times, I have found that they are so unkind in what they say about other moms and about each other. It really is not worth it to always have this negative feeling in the back of your mind. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:41 AM Flag
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good advice. thanks [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:46 AM Flag
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It sounds like the op is the insecure one. Only now that dc is in TT does she find herself fabulous enough to return the favor of looking down on the other moms. It's kind of sick to get your self worth from your 4yo's 'accomplishments' [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:59 AM Flag
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jealous are we? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:03 AM Flag
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of course. disagree with you so I must be jealous. you really should get a life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:10 AM Flag
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You people should all grow up. Learn to love yourself and you won't need others approval. I'm friendly to everyone and have just a few good friends from dcs school but rarely see each other there for work schedules. There are some people who always talk to each other but I'm not so immature to call it a clique and make myself an outcast- if I have something to say to one of them I walk up, wait for a break in the conversation and say it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:53 AM Flag
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Maybe since they've been together for a while they've been enjoying this year with one another since it's their last. Now that ongoing results are in, they've started looking ahead. Also, maybe they were afraid that your child was going to take one of their spots somewhere? Where is DD going? I'd just skip it and move on next year. It's kind of no one's fault. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:56 AM Flag
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Funny...my dd is going to a tough-to-get-into private school in the fall (we don't live in NYC), and a little group of mothers at her nursery school who've never given me the time of day because I don't have a Range Rover or go on vacation in Mauritius are suddenly cosying up to DD, and me. She just got invited to one of their birthday parties and even though I know they're probably being inclusive because their kids are going to same school next year, I can't help thinking "Oh NOW you want to be nice to me?" I should let it go, because I want DD to make her own friendships at school without my issues getting in her way, but it rankles bigtime. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:24 AM Flag
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Sometimes it takes awhile to get to know others. I am a working mom and my dc is in her 3rd year at pre-school. It wasn't until the end of 2nd year that I became friends with some of the moms. Try to give them the benefit of the doubt. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:14 AM Flag
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I'm the poster above - I have a bunch of great friends from nursery school (and so does DD), so it's not that I feel shut out; it's the Range Rover Moms that snubbed me and now are being friendly that I can't freaking stand! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 08:15 AM Flag
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It happens, some people think "oh that dc is so smart/family so classy, i want my dc to hang with them". People are like that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:14 AM Flag
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get over yourself. i hope i don't know you in real life. you sound like a real peach. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 12:29 PM Flag
[ - ] What are the upper ES and MS grades at which the ongoing private schools expand? How many openings do they usually add? TIA 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.27.09, 06:16 AM Flag
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Friends adds around 20 kids for 6th grade (a new class). Others schools in Manhattan usually add far fewer--Dalton maybe around 6 kids for 6th grade. You can also look at K-8 schools--they're not usually on the radar for this age (except for prep-for-prep children entering at 7th grade) and may have openings due to attrition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:22 AM Flag
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I do know the Hill Schools add a lot of kids [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:33 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone going to Village Kids NUrsery? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.27.09, 06:08 AM Flag
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yes and it's been a wonderful experience for our kid and much more encouraging and richer than the other program we tried or others we looked at. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 07.09.09, 09:10 AM Flag
[ - ] Re: the private school diversity post: It's true, smart (or fairly smart) underrepresented minorities *do* have a better chance at the Ivy League. Once you're above a certain level of grades/scores/extracurriculars, admission seems almost random. It's all up to chance whether they'll take the state-level tuba player or the state-level volleyball player. But being a minority and being at that level gives you a guaranteed "in" 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:59 AM Flag
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^^ I'm not trying to incite racism, but that's pretty much how colleges interpret affirmative action anyway: if you have a white candidate and underrepresented minority candidate at about the same level, automatically go for the minority. Which is why, if you are a well-performing minority, you have a much better chance than a well-performing majority (this includes Asians as well) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:01 AM Flag
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Not true for Asians in the UC system. Look at what happened at Berkeley. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sats/race/timeline.html [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:08 AM Flag
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OP - I was including Asians in the majority along with whites, not as underrepresented minorities, sorry if that wasn't clear [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:12 AM Flag
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np it's worse. my round of college apps were in 1999. it was so frustrating to see the white and asian kids shut out of ivy, stanford, wellesley while these two black kids, who were just as rich but nowhere near as hardworking or talented, got in EVERYWHERE. aa needs to be ABOLISHED [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:17 AM Flag
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nnp: I disagree about AA needing to be abolished. I know so many smart ppl who were helped by AA. Many of them were poor minorites but extremely smart. Because of their smarts and AA, they were given the opportunity. Just because those 2 rich black kids were admitted, doesn't mean they get a free ride while they are in their universities. THe minorities are admitted but they have to do the work to stay in..if not they will flunk out [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:42 AM Flag
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You might not want to think they are as hardworking or talented but the ivies aren't into accepting kids (wealthy or not/diverse or not) that are not at an equal level with other applicants; they might appear that way because they're actually smarter than some of their peers. At the end of the day, most kids that make it into college are there because they work hard and deserve to be there. The diverse kids that do get in are still underrepresented in the scheme of things and unfortunately also have to deal with bitter people, like you, who undermine their abilities and efforts based on the color of their skin [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:50 AM Flag
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thanks for telling me what i think. in what way did i judge their abilities based on the color of their skin? these were people i'd known since 1st grade and grew up with. you can tell how hard someone works and how smart they are after knowing them intimately for 12 years. so basically, you're WRONG [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:52 AM Flag
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you said a ton by your post. You said a ton by saying abolish AA...obviously you aren't a minority. You judged the abilities of all minorities by your comments and by saying end AA [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:58 AM Flag
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stop putting words in my mouth. i described the particular situation my classmates and i and how unfair it was. and the logical conclusion is that a policy that permits unfair situations should be abolished. go take your bleeding heart elsewhere. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:01 AM Flag
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again, I doubt an ivy would admit anyone that was not on par with the other kids being admitted so they obviously DESERVED to be there not just because of the color of their skin; your post is loaded with stereotypes and I doubt if you knew them so "intimately" or I think your tone would be different. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:03 AM Flag
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nope, they absolutely did not deserve. it was not just me who thought so, it was our entire class. even other black kids who hadn't applied to the ivies were surprised these 2 got in. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:06 AM Flag
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AGREED. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:53 AM Flag
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This may be true, but underrepresented minorities do tend to have a culture and life experiences that are very varied and different from the majority. This additional advantage/emotion IQ, cannot necessarily be tested by the admissions process, but is generally seen as a good things, both for the student and for other students in contact with the student. Its why its the best way for the school to pick students of equally high caliber. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:50 AM Flag
[ - ] Just heard that Speyer is full for boys -- only accepting applications for girls now. I didn't think that would happen. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:59 AM Flag
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lolol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:04 AM Flag
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The private school crowd is gone! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:00 AM Flag
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Not true. I called. [ Reply | More ]
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np: i believe it is true and they are full for boys in k. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 09:17 AM Flag
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how many boys are they accepting? will the genders be even? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:31 PM Flag
[ - ] Do you think any NYC private schools would accept a home-schooled child for upper elementary or middle school? Assuming the child's test scores were high and he/she interviewed well . . . any chance at all? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.27.09, 05:58 AM Flag
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of course, why not? And I was reading a study somewhere which said a proportionately higher percentage of Home schoolers get into good colleges than regular applicants. Just make sure that you sit the same exams as the other kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:08 AM Flag
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maybe. our son is homeschooled, and he outperforms regularly-schooled kids in his age group. I think it's probably a case by case evaluation. Why are you sending him to school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:08 AM Flag
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why not? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:09 AM Flag
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My dc's school accepted home-schooled children for middle school and younger grades. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:18 AM Flag
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I would think not- they would probably worry that the child will not be socialized to school and will have slightly nutty parents. But maybe some schools wouldn't have this prejudice. Pretty my kids' school would not be so interested, though. Many educators are very strongly opposed to homeschooling, so they will not look favorably on your choice. Just my opinion, though. I could be wrong... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:30 AM Flag
[ - ] No independent schools in NYC offer a year of paid maternity. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:57 AM Flag
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Very few companies do, so... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:06 AM Flag
[ - ] Help - DS is outgrowing his gifted baby clothes fast! Recommendations for decent, inexpensive baby clothes - either online or in NYC? 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 05:55 AM Flag
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jane's exchange in the east village (4th st? between a & b) and flying squirrel, in williamsburg, both have good used clothes. also try ebay. i've found lots of great, designer new or used baby clothes on ebay for little money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:00 AM Flag
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^^ also try h&m on 34th street. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:00 AM Flag
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Jane's Exchange is on E. 3rd St. bwt A & B [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:11 AM Flag
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old navy - good enough quality to last until DB outgrows them again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:00 AM Flag
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old navy stuff for baby is totally good and cute and inexpensive [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:04 AM Flag
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i have to say, i think i've been on ub too long. i thought you were saying the clothing was for a gifted kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:03 AM Flag
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At first I thought you were using gifted to describe the clothes. I was like, they have clothes for smart 2-month olds now? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:03 AM Flag
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LOL! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:05 AM Flag
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For nyc retail, Daffy's will always be best,if you prefer quality and Euro style/brands. I agree w/H&M, Old Navy and add Target,ZARA kids and Lilliput on Lafayette St for other retail; Those resources are perfect for style and some last longer than a growing baby will wear them. Online, I like TEA collection,Zutano,Osh Kosh and Carters. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:21 AM Flag
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I read the same thing and was already starting to write a smartass answer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:22 AM Flag
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Does Kmart have good stuff? Live in UES and not sure whether it's worth the trek... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:13 AM Flag
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It's way too hit or miss at Kmart. Target (W225 st off Bway)has a better selection of styles and prices. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:22 AM Flag
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NP. I don't think so. It's very cheesy with weird characters. Old Navy, Target (online), H&M, and Lord & Taylor has a lot of Ralph Lauren sales. Children's Place usually has really scary colors, but occasionally you can find something pretty normal for $7. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:24 AM Flag
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Gap Kids, Children's Place, Target [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 06:49 AM Flag
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Century 21 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:12 AM Flag
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H&M! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.27.09, 07:13 AM Flag
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