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[ - ] which would you give up first? top quality nanny (put kid in daycare), car (but we live in remote neighborhood), cleaning lady, organic, hi quality groceries (we cook 100 percent of time), cable tv/internet/cell phones? trying to make difficult cuts. 90 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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get rid of nanny and send to daycare [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:14 PM Flag
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nooooo! remote neighborhood = home daycare nightmare. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:23 PM Flag
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not necessarily [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:25 PM Flag
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Get rid of nanny and raise your own kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:24 PM Flag
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gotta go to work [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:25 PM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:26 PM Flag
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huh? to pay the bills? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:28 PM Flag
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If both you and DH "need" to work just to pay the bills, you're living beyond your means. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:28 PM Flag
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since when was that the standard? it's pretty unheard of for a family these days to survive on one salary in NYC. i work for a not for profit, and the $ i keep after paying the nanny may not be much but it makes all the difference to us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:31 PM Flag
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It's only "unheard of" in your limited social circle of people who are apparently working overtime to keep up with the Joneses and the Trumps. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:33 PM Flag
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that's insane. i work for a non profit and all my friends do too, or they're in low paying creative fields. that's why we can't survive on one salary. jesus, you are so off base. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:35 PM Flag
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oh and both dh and i work 9-5, which is one reason our salaries are low and we love our jobs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:36 PM Flag
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My DH works 9-to-5 too, and we manage just fine on his salary alone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:39 PM Flag
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what is that salary? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:42 PM Flag
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$66K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:53 PM Flag
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Of course you can. What do your DHs do? Are they in nonprofits too? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:37 PM Flag
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he's a lawyer but makes shockingly little. on the other hand he's out the door at 6 pm and doesn't hate his job. i'd rather have him be happy and earning very little than miserable and earning a lot. and i'd rather have a nanny p/t (we both have great p/t work from home deals) than have to stay at home full time, which i found very depressing when i tried it. so it's the $ and the fact that i love my job. any other questions? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:41 PM Flag
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What's "shockingly little"? $35K? We're living on $58K in Manhattan and surviving just fine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:44 PM Flag
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it amounts to that after he pays off his student loans every month [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:50 PM Flag
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So what's your problem? That's what we make BEFORE taxes and paying bills. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:51 PM Flag
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do you live on the street? how is that possible???? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:50 PM Flag
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It's possible vis-a-vis living within our means in a modest apartment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:51 PM Flag
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how??? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:24 AM Flag
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np. i have to say, i really admire people like you who work for others for little pay and the fact that this poster is trying to belittle you for it is just wrong. shame on her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:59 PM Flag
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thanks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:07 PM Flag
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that's a myth, actually. the whole double-income, latte-swilling indulgents. because the cost of housing and education (that is, college education and the money it takes to live in a neighborhood with a decent k-12) have risen so insanely since our parents' genration, this is where the money is going. there's a good book on this topic. i'll post a link if you like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:36 PM Flag
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There's an even better book explaining the fallacy of the two-parent income ... and the trap that parents fall into in this obsessive saving-for-college-for-the-kids culture. Believe it or not, it's not the parents' responsibility to send their kids to college (or to private school, for that matter). That's why God created school loans, work-study programs, and part-time jobs for college students. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:38 PM Flag
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np: Obviously you and the op (and I) have different values regarding this issue, so perhaps you can give an answer that is useful to her situation rather than telling her to change her values and lifestyle to suit you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:00 PM Flag
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Um, god did not create school loans, work-study programs OR part-time jobs. Just saying... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 11:05 PM Flag
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studies prove otherwise, actually. but if it makes you feel good to spout nonsense, rock on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:34 PM Flag
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What "studies"? The ones you pulled out of your ass to justify living beyond your means? Please. It's simple economics. Live within your means, have a TRUE division of labor at home (one parent works, the other stays home -- mom/dad it doesn't matter), and you won't need to outsource your domestic help. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:36 PM Flag
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honestly, you're the one talking out of your ass. here's a book that cites several of the studies. http://www.amazon.com/Two-Income-Trap-Elizabeth-Warren/dp/0465090907/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232847555&sr=1-1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:41 PM Flag
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I read the same book. If you'd have read the WHOLE book, you'd know that she strongly recommends against two-parent incomes, and instead favors couples DOWNSIZING their lives so they can live on one income alone, rather than finding silly reasons to justify the two incomes. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:43 PM Flag
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i did read the book and that is not what THEY (it's written by two women) say at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:45 PM Flag
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I guess you gleaned only what you wanted to hear. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:47 PM Flag
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i guess you don't even know that the book had two authors. which means your reading comprehension didn't take you past the cover. i'll take my assessment over yours, thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:52 PM Flag
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I forgot, OK? Jesus you're a bitch when you're backed into a corner while trying to justify your poor choices. Pity DH. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:55 PM Flag
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um, you clicked on the link which took you to a book with TWO AUTHORS plainly listed. seems like you're the one backed into a corner. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:01 PM Flag
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um, hello? tell that to the immigrant couple who work as a cleaning lady and a construction worker to pay the bills. you are so clueless. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:47 PM Flag
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Um ... HELLO. DH is a construction worker here. We get along just fine on his salary alone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:48 PM Flag
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She asked for an answer to her question not a judgement! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:49 PM Flag
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Yes, stay at home with your kids and teach them to be judgmental about other people and their choices, like this person [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 07:25 PM Flag
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those of us with nannies are raising our kids just fine, thanks. isn't there a bible study group you need to attend? or a protest at an abortion clinic? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:26 PM Flag
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Actually you're not. Get rid of the nanny and raise your own kids. There. One major expense down! Clean your own home and get rid of the cleaning lady. Another major expense gone! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:27 PM Flag
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yeah, i would have said that before i got one. turns out all my friends secretly have one too (we're not in finance or anything so it's an unexpected luxury). i feel like this woman has changed my quality of life! i could never, ever find the time to clean this place like she does. and it's a major luxury to have a clean house. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:30 PM Flag
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Stay at home, raise your own kids, and you'll find you have plenty of time not only to clean the house, but pursue other interests as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:31 PM Flag
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i stayed at home for 6 mo and am thrilled to be back at work. i love my job. love db but am not cut out to care for a baby 80 hours a week. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:34 PM Flag
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Maybe you shouldn't have had kids, then. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:39 PM Flag
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that's an amazingly stupid thing to say. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:44 PM Flag
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np. She has a point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:49 PM Flag
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what's her point? you don't deserve to have kids unless you want to spend every waking minute with them? what utter nonsense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:53 PM Flag
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Her point is that if you're not cut out for motherhood, perhaps you shouldn't have kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:56 PM Flag
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and of course "not cut out for motherhood" is a badge of shame that can be earned by not wanting to spend every waking moment with them. to see how ridiculous this is, try applying this standard to fathers. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:01 PM Flag
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Now YOU are being ridiculous. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:05 PM Flag
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so i guess according to you there's a long list of women who should't have had kids: marie currie, golda meir, beverly sills, hillary clinton.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:06 PM Flag
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np:i stay home most of the week with two toddlers and find it very hard to clean a house or do anything but take care of them (which i love)- forget about "pursuing other interests" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:35 PM Flag
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You're apparently not budgeting your time wisely. I raised four kids, stayed at home, took care of all the domestic responsibilities, and earned a law degree in my "spare" time. All of this in an era before computers, email, cell phones, and even microwave ovens. It can be done. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:41 PM Flag
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and that experience has obviously taken its toll because you sound horribly harsh and bitter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:46 PM Flag
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That's it. Lash out at my success because you can't get your act together. Nice lesson for your kids, MOM. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:49 PM Flag
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you're not the brightest, are you? most lawyers, i think, would have the reading comprehension skills to understand that i'm lashing out at your harsh, angry ATTITUDE, not at your mothering/career choices. You sound truly disgusting and awfully unhappy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:56 PM Flag
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I'm quite happy, thank you. You're the one who's lashing out, trying to justify your inability to get it together. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:57 PM Flag
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you sure don't sound it, honey [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:58 PM Flag
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no microwave ovens? you must be very old [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:48 PM Flag
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apparently you are super mom. I wonder what your kids think of you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:11 PM Flag
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Are you kidding? SAHM here and I don't find that to be true at all. Maybe my kids not spending enough time watching TV. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:02 PM Flag
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no, we are. even those of us with f/t nannies spend as many waking hours with our dc as our nanny does. and i can tell you that there are incredibly well-adjusted dcs who were "raised by nannies" in our school and complete nightmares raised by helicopter moms. i realize you need to feel superior because your really think someone who can afford the $300 handbag you can't doesn't deserve to have dcs, but it really doesn't work that way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:33 PM Flag
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If you're home full-time you don't need a full-time nanny. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:34 PM Flag
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and no one here is talking about sahms with f/t nannies. try to work on those reading comprehension skills when you're not on your santimommy high horse and we'll get back to you next round. thanks for playing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:44 PM Flag
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Try to work on YOUR reading comprehension: NO NANNIES NECESSARY, EVER -- when you're raising your own kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:50 PM Flag
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well, that's your OPINION. which has nothing to do with reading comprehension skills the fact that you think the above post has something to do with sahms with f/t nannies pretty much proves you're a moron. and one who, in her embarrassment, has to indignantly play the sophomoric "i know you are, but what am i??" card. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:57 PM Flag
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OK ... I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say in that paragraph. Take a chill pill, refocus, and get back to us when you've gotten a grip on things, hon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:58 PM Flag
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i think everyone here can see you've made a stupid gaffe. instead of being a blowhard and drawing attention to it, maybe you should just log off quietly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:08 PM Flag
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$300. isn't a particularly expensive handbag and there is no pattern to 'cut-out' for the ideal mom. This is a dumb argument. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 10:33 PM Flag
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cleaning lady and/or cable tv [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:29 PM Flag
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I'd choose good daycare over nanny any day--even if I had all the money in the world. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:25 PM Flag
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why? they get so sick in daycare but with a good nanny they can have a nice bond and one on one attention [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:28 PM Flag
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no such thing as good daycare imo. kennels. might as well park your dc at doggy daycare. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:29 PM Flag
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NP: My dd was taken care of from 8 mo to 5yr by a SAHM with 2 children of her own, one the same age as dd. Rarely had any other kids there. Paid $10/hour. NJ burb btw, in case you think I live in Appalachia. So don't say all daycare is like kennels -- you are talking out of your ass [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:03 PM Flag
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np. i would never leave my dc with a sahm with 2 of her own unless she were a gf. i don't see why you think this is so great. even the $10/hour is not all that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:09 PM Flag
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She has become a great friend. Had great references from many other moms and from the nun at my church. Was an absoluted wonderful set up and since dd is an only child, her dd is like a sister to my dd. I realize that not everyone has the option. Never any outward favoritism towards her dd. In fact, seemed to treat my dd better. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:14 PM Flag
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does the nun know you tell strangers they are talking out of their ass? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:34 PM Flag
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my kids were at a great daycare, where they had fun, played, socialized and learned that the world did not completely revolve around them. They occasionally had to to wait to "have their needs met". It was the best decision I could ever have made. I have seen too many nannies shopping, texting, chatting, and generally ignoring their children. There are very good nannies, but I wouldn't have traded my daycare experience for anything. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 08:16 PM Flag
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np We're cutting down, too. The first thing that went was the cleaning lady. Yes, I hate cleaning the house, and I certainly don't vlean as well as she did, but it's a luxury to have a cleaning lady - so, in times of need, you cut out the luxuries! I'd also really look at prices at the grocery store. You can get a week's worth of groceries without it costing a fortune if you make smart choices. As for cable, we only get basic for reception, then do Netflix. Saves a ton of money! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:43 AM Flag
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Ditto for us -- we're doing our own cleaning now. You can handle it. Also, we use daycare and really love it. If you can find a warm, good place, moving from nanny to daycare won't feel like a step down at all. Our db loves getting dropped off every day -- there's always a lot of activity and he gets a ton of attention... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 07:41 PM Flag
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nanny [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:22 AM Flag
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I would review the finances and see if it is worth to do the nanny part time and day care part time. They usually cost about the same either way. Depending on how old the kids are they can survive in day care. I would get rid of the cleaning lady. How many times does she come? You can do a cleaning service and have them come every other week or once a week. You don't have to cut you have to find better deals. You can also go to costco to buy in bulk every day supplies. and minimize organic when you can. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 05:27 AM Flag
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Cable TV. Examine grocery bill. Reduce cleaning lady hours. Cheaper car/ cheaper parking for car if you have to use it often. If you don't use the car often, get rid of it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 05:28 AM Flag
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You don't have to give up anything. Nannies are so expensive. You can still get top quality childcare for an affordable price by going with an aupair. Aupairs have lots of experience and they are young and energetic but if you go with an agency you can pay only $300ish a week total instead of the outrageous nanny costs. I have been the local coordinator for Cultural Care aupair for 15 years here in NYC. Aupairs are great. Why pay top nanny prices for the same childcare quality. If you want to know more you can reach me. I had auapirs for 7 years and it was the best thing I ever did for my kids. I was still able to afford the cleaning lady, cell phones, 2 cars and private school. call me if you want to talk. 718-667-4104 Donna [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 02:10 PM Flag
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organic food is the biggest scam ever- give it up [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 07:33 PM Flag
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cleaning lady; cut down on grocery costs - if you keep car maybe go to suburban super markets to really get your food costs down; if there is quality day care and it is less expensive than nanny I would definitley do that too; car - depends on how often you use it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 05:54 AM Flag
[ - ] WWYD: sorry to gross you out in advance. dc is 3 and we have had the following vomit schedule: weds midnight almost hourly to 5:00am, thurs at 5:30 pm, fri at 6:00pm and at midnight, sat at 5:30 and just now at 8pm. acted fine/hungry/happy all day fri and sat. do you think this is a tummy bug or something more? am i nuts to call the pediatrician? should i keep riding it out and just offer clear liquids? kid keeps asking for food, but asleep now. 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:03 PM Flag
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Get some Pedialyte [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:06 PM Flag
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thank you for being my only responder. dc won't drink it. doc said gatorade was ok. am worried about getting dehydrated. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:09 PM Flag
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gatorade is fine--dilute with a little water and ice [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:17 PM Flag
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and the vomiting can be exacerabated by dehydration [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:17 PM Flag
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OP: should i call the pedie or just ride it out for a while? would a tummy bug go on for this long (60 hours) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:34 PM Flag
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Hmm. I need to get myself on a vomit schedule. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:22 PM Flag
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My daughter did this last week. Threw up Thursday afternoon again that night. Then didn't throw up again until Saturday night during the night. During that whole time she was eating and happy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:44 PM Flag
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how old? did it just seem like a fluke? did you call the doctor? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:45 PM Flag
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this may sound silly but does he have a cough at all? maybe trying to cough up excess mucus? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:47 PM Flag
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had green boogers at the beginning of the week, and a bit of a cough now, but this definitely seems more of the viral variety of vomit. i can't believe i just wrote that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:49 PM Flag
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about a month ago, 2.4 dd puked for six nights straight (first night she puked about 6 times all night long). ped said it was fine, at this age it takes a long time to get out of the system. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:38 PM Flag
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Was dc drinking fluids during the non vomit times on Thurs, Fri, and today? If so, you are no where near dehydration. DD (7yo)vomited 6 days straight last summer, much more often than your dc, and did not get dehydrated. Went to ped during that time; nothing they can do [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:56 PM Flag
[ - ] I cannot wait until Feb 14th. I have been obsessing about schools for like 2 years and now the time has come and the last 2 weeks are killing me. I just need to know at this point...anyone else losing it. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 01.24.09, 04:58 PM Flag
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whats your first choice? just curious [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:59 PM Flag
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a single sex girls school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:00 PM Flag
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Which one? I was in your shoes two years ago, and everything worked out exactly as we'd hoped. GL! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:04 PM Flag
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whatever happens is for the best--seriously. good luck i hope you get what you want! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:02 PM Flag
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You may have to wait until the following Tues. you know [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:02 PM Flag
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3 weeks [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:03 PM Flag
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I know...I was thinking by the last week I would know that I was shut out and have to move...:) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:04 PM Flag
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you won't tho. they'll tease you adn call and PSD will talk about how they love you adn your kid. then you'll get WL maybe and in the end, be SO [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:05 PM Flag
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God that happened to be too- probably from the same school she wants. It is so hard. GL though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:09 PM Flag
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Tritto! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:11 PM Flag
[ - ] WWYD - Sending ds to a tt school would be an enormous financial stretch (no vacations, stay in tiny apt. both parents working full time, etc..). Would you take a spot at St. Ignatius Loyola (we're catholic) instead? Have a better quality of life but forego a top school. 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 01.24.09, 04:44 PM Flag
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If I was comfortable with the Catholic school thing I most certainly would. The economy is going to get so much worse and it's just not a good time to stretch yourself financially. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:49 PM Flag
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first of all its a great school! i would kill to send my son there --and we are at tt. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:57 PM Flag
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It is a good school and if you can enjoy other things you should. I grew up going to a tt school but with smallish apt and limited vacations and it bugged me. Not sure my life would have been different if I did not go a tt. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:00 PM Flag
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I would send db to IG (dd was rejected). I think part of education comes from experiences outside school (maybe a vacation to a European city ), even to other parts of the USA to see where history has been made. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:01 PM Flag
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St. Ignatius. No brainer [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:03 PM Flag
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OMG. If you got early accept. to SIL and you tirn it down, you are insane [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:04 PM Flag
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We did get early accept and feel very fortunate. My only concern is the class size. Don't want ds to get lost in the crowd. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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and that is worth at least 23K/year and total financial sacrifice? It's not like your child will be one of 40 in a room. Jayzus, Mary & J [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:17 PM Flag
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ITA. Why the hell people like you got admitted early is beyind me when there are so many of us who would cry and do a happy dance for a chance at such a great school for 7k/yr. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:18 PM Flag
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I mean the OP. I wish St. I's knew who she was a revoked the early decision. Obviously she was just yanking their chain [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:19 PM Flag
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You can't know for sure your dc is IN at some TT and frankly, you'd be crazy not to take a spot [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:20 PM Flag
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at Saint Ignatius Loyola [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:20 PM Flag
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Seriously. Stop the private school insanity. Go public. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:21 PM Flag
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Hard decision. TT offers great education plus all the extras (sports, arts...) I toured and was surprised by the traditional curriculum, Latin in particular. My parents sacrificed alot for my education and never regreted their decision. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:36 PM Flag
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Would you qualify for aid at a private? Loyola is a great school and very competive right now so your going to get a lot of good kids/families. I would stick to loyola. remember there is more to these schools then tution. They is consant fund raisers and many ala carte cost involved in sending your children to private school and loyola for that matter so if you have a kid that is smart and can handle a big class then don't think twice send him to Loyola. GL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:33 AM Flag
[ - ] DH is being transferred to London. I can't believe the expat package! 25K per month for rent, private school tuition is totally paid, misc other things to sweeten it up. Is it such a hardship that they have to bribe us? PS what do you think of Hampstead/St Johns Wood for a neighborhood? 49 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:43 PM Flag
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you've now posted this three times. stfu already. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:44 PM Flag
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sorry, not good with posting. I don't post very frequently. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:48 PM Flag
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My brother lived in Hampstead and loved it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:48 PM Flag
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It seems almost suburban - did you visit? Did you feel like you were in a city or more of a close suburb? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:49 PM Flag
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i feel like you need to stfu. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:51 PM Flag
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Now you're the one repeating. Mine was a mistake - your excuse? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:52 PM Flag
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you double-posted this braggart post, but you also posted the FLYING BLIND post. you're annoying. sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:56 PM Flag
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Yep, mixed emotions. Nothing wrong with that, and if you're annoyed, just skip it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:57 PM Flag
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I guess kind of in between -- not really suburban but not as city like as Notting Hill? His lifestyle was definitely not really suburban in the way a Westchester town would be but he had access to more greenery/gardens than in NYC. I am not sure where the schools are b/c the few people w/school aged kids live in various places in Surrey. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:53 PM Flag
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I thought initially about going to central London, but I would always be comparing it to UWS/NY experience. In those neighborhoods you can get a little garden, which seems to be part of the whole experience, so I think the right approach is just to go for it. And learn to garden. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:56 PM Flag
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Parsons Green area of Fulham is nice [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:14 PM Flag
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That sounds awesome, congrats!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:53 PM Flag
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Thanks! I feel like we won the lottery! (except the part that thinks . . . why do they need to make it so attractive . . . I would have gone for nothing or a loss) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:54 PM Flag
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get over your douchebag self. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:02 PM Flag
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London is expensive even compared to NY and expat packages are notoriously rich. Moving a family, etc..is not that easy and making new friends (finding doctors, schools, even dry cleaners). It is also cold there and they don't really believe in good heating. However, I would have gone for alot less too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:02 PM Flag
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I agree with this. The expat lifestyle is not easy at all. can you fly back as often as the celebs do? is that what you're thinking? they don't call it culture shock for nothing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:07 PM Flag
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No, not expecting to come back frequently, although we will probably come back for the summer (have a steady summer rental and will hopefully continue to rent it. DH will come for one month vacation/work in US office). I saw in the expat paperwork a large section on counseling and figured it must be there for a reason. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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so you don't work because dh makes a sh*tload or because you are really, really stupid? i'm guessing both. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:54 PM Flag
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np ITTTTA. We went to London for two years right after 9/11 (dh had just finished b school). LOCAL package, so we didn't have anything left after all the taxes (those council taxes are incredible). Hard to make friends, too. Even though I'm Canadian (was even able to vote in a council election), I found the culture shock to be huge (which was a big surprise). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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thanks for the reality check. It still seems like an overall positive. I grew up in a very small town and always felt so lucky to live in New York, never dreamed of living overseas. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:14 PM Flag
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hate to say it, but you sound like exactly the sort of hayseed the brits will have a field day with. sounds like dh at least is a little more sophisticated. gl. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:36 PM Flag
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Its colder here than in London ... I don't know where you got this information from. the difference is that itstays colder there longer, i.e. they don't really go through fall and spring as we dp. The seasons feel more like winter and summer only [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:29 PM Flag
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the damp makes it feel colder imo. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:40 PM Flag
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the brits can be pretty nasty to americans. i spent a year there and although i made some great friends, the general snottiness from casual encounters (ie sales clerks etc) wore me down. a lot of north americans i know end up living in a 'foreigner' bubble. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:05 PM Flag
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I am the agreeing person above. I almost posted this although I'm hoping with the new president, the American hatred will be somewhat lessened. The good news is that you will learn what it feels like to be an unwanted minority which is a pretty useful life experience, [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:09 PM Flag
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does this happen to kids as well? My dds are 7 and 4, and I'm leaning toward British schools, but would put them in an American/International school in a heartbeat if the kids are cruel [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:11 PM Flag
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Put them in an international school. We did this with our ds and made some great friends through the school (the children were from Italy, Lebanon, Ireland, US, Canada, etc). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 01:03 PM Flag
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Why do you think it is like this? Is there just a general dislike of Americans or are there certain behaviors/speech that elicit that response? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:10 PM Flag
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i think it's an odd combination of resentment and snobbishness. i lived there under b. clinton so doubt obama will make that much diff. honestly a lot of people just love to hate us: our accents, our mannerisms etc. And I have to say the english are not the best natured people on earth. it always embarasses me seeing how we kiss their asses when they come over here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:16 PM Flag
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Right. there will be a few really well-traveled people or those who work with Americans that you socialize with, but the majority of people you deal with, the grocery store clerk, the next door neighbor, maybe the admissions secretary at the school... and these are the people you have a lot of day to day contact with. anywhere you go, I find, there are a few open-minded people and everyone else is pretty provincial and xenophobic. Just imagine the Brit with socks and sandals on the subway. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:41 PM Flag
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Why don't we just be rude to them when they come over here? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 10:23 PM Flag
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Used to live in Hampstead and loved it. Hope you will enjoy your time as much as I did. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 08:44 PM Flag
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We moved from NYC to London a few years ago. LOVE IT. Granted we'd both lived here before and have friends here, but it's a much easier city to live in than it was even 5 years ago. I like Hampstead all right, St Johns Wood not so much -- DH and I call it the ghetto, because it's got so many Americans (the American school is there). Lots of expats (US, Australia, SA) in all the family-oriented areas, though. DD goes to a local Montessori nursery school and will start at a local prep (private school for ages 4-11) in September. Didn't consider the American school for a second; too many transient kids and the families I know there are in a real expat bubble. Having lived in the UK for 8 years total I'd say you do need a thick skin and a good sense of humor to happy here as an American, but you'd have to drag me back to NYC kicking and screaming. I have a little 4BR/2.5 BA house, I can park my car in front of my house, and I'm 25 mins door-to-door to Trafalgar Square. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 08:29 AM Flag
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oops, sorry, used to lurking, not posting. A good sense of humor, is what I was going to say, to be an American here. But you'd have to drag me kicking and screaming back to NYC - I love my little 4BR/2.5BA house with its little garden, I can park my car out front, and I'm 25 mins door-to-door from Trafalgar Square. Take the money and go! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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which neighborhood are you in? I'm looking forward to the house/garden experience too! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 10:53 AM Flag
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Chiswick. The poster below is right - we are in a downturn here, but I haven't personally noticed any resentment of Americans coming over to take highly-paid jobs. More working-class resentment of eastern Europeans. Granted DH isn't a banker/lawyer and our package is not nearly as generous as yours sounds...but the benefit of having suffered through small NYC apartments is that we're happy to not spend all of our housing allowance on our little house. We squirrel a good chunk of it away, just in case things go wrong. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:13 PM Flag
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PS feel free to email me if you want to discuss further, stveronica@gmail.com. I think a lot of the posts on this thread reflect perspectives that are pretty out of date. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:16 PM Flag
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np I posted above. Left London four years ago, so not so out of date, imo. What are your council taxes running--those will be coming out of the housing allowance and they are huge. I think many Americans think you just cough up your rent, income tax and VAT and that's it. Not so. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:27 PM Flag
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Very true. What I was referring to was the "they all hate Americans" thing. It's a v cosmopolitan city; of the 12 kids in DD's nursery class, only 2 have 2 British parents. Look, of course it's not cheap. But with that kind of package, the OP could have a nice house in a great neighborhood and have plenty left over to put in the bank. If you want to live like Gwyneth, well, that's another story. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:35 PM Flag
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Expat here in London and I would not go around bragging about the relocation package. The UK is in a downturn (a really crappy downturn). The dollar is gaining on the pound and everything here is twice as expensive as NYC. Brits are starting to get angry about the "foreigner" coming over and taking jobs. Think long and hard about the transfer because if the company tanks, you and the perks are going to be the first to go. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 10:25 AM Flag
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get over yourself [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:15 PM Flag
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seriously. what an a$$hole. considering there are posters who've been laid off here the bragging is beyond insensitive. maybe she should spend some of that $25k on learning to keep her mouth shut. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:38 PM Flag
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Duct tape. $4.99 a roll. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 01:10 PM Flag
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What's your plan for school? I'd figure that out and then pick a nabe accordingly. Fwiw, Hampstead is physically pretty far from the center, and in St. John's Wood, you'll need a car. I personally would prefer something more convenient. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 12:41 PM Flag
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We were transferred to London with a 13 month old in tow. We were there for 4 years and would go back in a heart beat. Our second child was born there. We thought we had a sweet ex-pat package also, but it was eaten up pretty quickly (of course, we traveled a lot while we were there and made the decision to live in Chelsea because we really wanted to be near everything). We sent our son to an english private school - it was fantastic. He was so ahead of his peers academically when we returned to the states. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 01:00 PM Flag
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Lived in London for a year, pre-kids, so take it fwiw. Hampstead is beautiful. Felt sort of like Park Slope distance-wise from midtown compared to Central London. Check out the train lines if you care about the commute; it does feel removed from Central London, which can be good or bad depending on what you want. Hampstead Heath is absolutely gorgeous and very special. Also lots of cute shops and restaurants in Hampstead. I found stJohns wood to be scuzzier, but didn't spend much time there and could be mistaken. It is a bit closer in, though. London is enormous. You should post here as to what type of things you are looking for in a neighborhood and maybe ubers can help you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:13 PM Flag
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or maybe we can tell her to go f$ck herself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:46 PM Flag
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thats my fave [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:51 PM Flag
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I am very jealous. I passed up on opportunities for overseas postings and now it looks like it won't happen for years given the destruction in the financial markets. Enjoy your life experience and the broadening of your horizons. I'm sure there will be times that you are lonely, but you can be lonely sitting in NYC or whatever US city/town you live in. Get out there and take it all in!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:52 PM Flag
[ - ] DH is being transferred to London. I can't believe the expat package! 25K per month for rent, private school tuition is totally paid, misc other things to sweeten it up. Is it such a hardship that they have to bribe us? PS what do you think of Hampstead/St Johns Wood for a neighborhood? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:42 PM Flag
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Congrats- you will have a great time! Hampstead and St. Johns Wood are great for expats as the American School is nearby. Check out Primrose Hill which is very near St Johns Wood but much more low key with lots of neighborhood pubs. We were there from 93-2005 and lived in S. Kensington and sent kids to local schools. We made a lot of friends. You will need the 25K, as we were paying about $3500/week for a very nice (but not luxury) 3 bed room- notice that this is per week, which is how rents are paid there. And that was in 2002. Schools are cheap- they are still around 8-10,000 GBP, a steal compared to NYC and our kids came out with a terrific education. Good luck!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 08:46 PM Flag
[ - ] Can people just indulge me and please respond if they have knowledge of these things? This K application process is literally driving me nuts. I just cant get a handle on it because it is so unfamiliar and seems so arbitrary based on posts here. 1st, we need FA , I know thats a minus. We have "visible diversity" which is a plus. DD had great interviews (per feedback) and is smart, funny and very mature for her age. We are a nice, well-educated couple. ERB was v 87, p 98, overall 94 (ok, but not great according to UB). Applying to all the Brooklyn privates: BC, Packer, Bklyn Friends,and Grace, Friends Sem, what are our chances? 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 01.24.09, 04:38 PM Flag
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Your chances are excellent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:46 PM Flag
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You'll get in. We on the other hand who are middle class and white are screwed [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:06 PM Flag
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That's gross. Never blame anything on your being white. Come on. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:08 PM Flag
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you ourself mentioned the diversity. Also, middle class means we make too much for FA and not enough to pay hefty private tuition. We get screwed [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:09 PM Flag
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Well I'm not the OP actually. Any middle class family in NYC could apply for FA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:46 PM Flag
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our HHI is about 100K [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:50 PM Flag
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Not easy. Obviously visible diversity is a pro. The ERBs and FA are cons. Did you go to desirable colleges? Are you black? Asian? Hispanic? That might also make a difference. It's a hard year for FA but you and your daughter sound nice and normal. I'd give you an 85% chance of getting into more than one school, 95% chance of getting into one. GL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:44 PM Flag
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Black [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:51 PM Flag
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I seriously know NOTHING but I'd give you an extra point for black! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:52 PM Flag
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we went to great schools too, do i get a point for that?,lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:54 PM Flag
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np - You should be fine. GL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 07:12 AM Flag
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Totally! Double points. Looking good. Really! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 07:29 AM Flag
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my guess, you'll have your choice. have fun! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:04 PM Flag
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You'll be accepted at all of those schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 07:57 AM Flag
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The real question though, is whether the OP will get FA, and if so, how much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:21 AM Flag
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the max she will get is 1/2 tuition. so, 13-18K (increasing yearly) may still be prohibitively expensive to attend private school on 100K HHI. i personally would stretch (pick up extra hours, tighten belts) and make it happen but that is a very personal choice. also depends on if dd is an only child? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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Just curious why you think that the OP would only get maximum of half tuition. On what basis? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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purely anecdotal. i live in brooklyn, my own kids attend one of the schools she listed. i know kids at the other 2 brooklyn schools she mentioned. most of our friends are getting some FA, none get more than 1/2 tuition. most get about 1/4. my guess is her dc would get 1/2.. just a guess. no expert though. maybe she'd get more from the manhattan schools? almost everyone in brooklyn who i know goes for FA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:41 AM Flag
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op: is the half tuition thing a rule? that is worrisome, I am not sure we can even swing that, looking for 75% off, a real discount. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.29.09, 08:24 PM Flag
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Apply to a charter school - go to uncommonschools.org or achievementfirst.org they both have schools in Brooklyn and they are charter management organizations that run college prep elementary schools. i.e. public schools, but good schools [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.26.09, 08:46 AM Flag
[ - ] I am on amoxicillin 2 grams daily for 5 days and on days 6-10 will take biaxin and flagyl. I am so scared of vaginitis. Anyone BTDT. I am being treated for ulcers caused by H pylori. Any advice 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:26 PM Flag
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Eat a ton of yogurt. Drink plenty of fluids. Stay away from alcohol (obviously). Otherwise not the WORST thing in the world to have a yeast infection, why so scared? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:32 PM Flag
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I always take Florastor when I'm on antibiotics. Prior to that, I always got a yeast infection so my doctor would just prescribe diflucan or you can just use the cream while you are on it if you are that worried. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:36 PM Flag
[ - ] How often do you give 9 mo Emetrol? She has the stomache virus thats going around and keeps throwing up all the time. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Newborn 01.24.09, 03:50 PM Flag
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Is there any info on the packet? Did you ask your ped? So sorry she has a bug, what did ped say to do for it? At that age it is FINE for you to call the dr. after hours to ask how to manage. Can you even do that "kiddie gatorate" stuff, hm, what is the name, now I am blanking? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:26 PM Flag
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pedialyte [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:31 PM Flag
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Whew, that's it! Thanks. Pregnancy brain.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:34 PM Flag
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My ped talks so fast plus dd was screaming in backround. I asked her to repeat but still didn't get it all down bc I am so stressed bc I am doing a catering party tomorrow. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:10 PM Flag
[ - ] Wondering if we are going to qualify for FA? We have a HHI of 130K, and dh gets a bonus, but nothing like IB bonuses. The most it ever was was about 24K. We rent, have no car, no nanny and take 2 inexpensive vacations per year. 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Preschool/Kids 01.24.09, 03:30 PM Flag
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Any type of diversity or special appeal? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:42 PM Flag
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you could, but it probably won't be much [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:43 PM Flag
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No. We are in a similar boat and looked into it. WE don't qualify, so I had to go back to work to afford the tuition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:50 PM Flag
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How did you look into it? That should qualify you for some amount in most schools. Absolutely. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:54 PM Flag
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NP: You could look at the sliding scale at Manhattan Country School. If you slide off the end, you can "afford" any private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:57 PM Flag
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That means nothing. I wouldn't stop from applying because of that school's scale. It's based on something very different and the money is spread around differently, they want a different demographic... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:03 PM Flag
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Do you work? If not they will add about 50 thousand to that income. Even with that you could qualify. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:55 PM Flag
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Do you work? 130K plus bonus of 24K falls into possible financial aid territory under usual circumstances. If you don't work (and don't have a young child at home), the schools will add at least 35K to your total hhi, putting you close to 200K. This year will probably be different from other years though, with schools stretching to aid families with children currently in the school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:58 PM Flag
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I think the cut off is between 150K and 180K. If you don't work (+35K), you total 184K. Doesn't look good. Remember, also, that if some schools may use FA as a deciding factor--they don't have the extra money to pay it, so they will not even WL you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:02 PM Flag
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I've heard the cutoff is around 200K, with families usually expected to contribute 10-15% of their total hhi as their share of tuition. This makes sense, because 15% of 200K is about equal to one full tuition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:30 PM Flag
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op: I am a SAHM, have a 2 year old. I have a small part-time business but I am just breaking even, so no real $$ yet. Also no diversity or connections. FWIW, very high ERB, stellar school report, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:01 PM Flag
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With a high ERB, send dc to a G&T. If you can not afford private for one dc, you really won't be able to for 2 DCs. G&T is free. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:03 PM Flag
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We were told not to bother applying for FA. We make 180K--AND we have racial diversity. I doubt you would qualify. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:05 PM Flag
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Who told you not to bother? Was it just one school? I'm very surprised anyone would do that, no one can speak for all schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:11 PM Flag
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op again: I should also say that the sss recommends that we should only pay about half of a private school tuition. Just don't know schools follow the recommendation, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:11 PM Flag
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Each school is different. They can offer you much more or less. GL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:12 PM Flag
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This is national scale. The schools norm it for NYC. Seems like your child is a strong candidate for many reasons. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:28 PM Flag
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Do PSDs provide any insight into these issues? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:15 PM Flag
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definitely. despite what people here are saying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:28 PM Flag
[ - ] What does Babby look like? I am fascinated by the postings here. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 01.24.09, 03:17 PM Flag
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She's not tall, but you can feel her presence. Always smiley and friendly. Good person to the core. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:22 PM Flag
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I can't quite remember but I sort of recall a version of that Everybody Loves Raymond mother except with very dark hair. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:18 PM Flag
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Petite, shortish dark hair. Her energy is positive/high, enthusiastic. She's probably in her 50's. On a separate note, she sells Dalton really hard & makes it sound like a truly wonderful place & then rejects you anyway. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:21 PM Flag
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wrong, her hair is blondish [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 03:50 AM Flag
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It doesn't matter. Power is hot! (that's for you Babby, if your scrolling.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:37 PM Flag
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I was curious too! Google image search... Babby Krents. http://intranet.dalton.org/alumni/photo_album/AlumniNight2001/index.htm [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:12 PM Flag
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not what I expected [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 09:59 PM Flag
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I know. We are only applying to 2's programs now but I am very much looking forward to seeing her in person in a few years, and already curious about whether we'll be interviewed in the basement. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:32 PM Flag
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a little bit like Joy Behar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:43 PM Flag
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really? the google photo made her look more like mrs. kravitz on the old dick van dyke show. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:22 PM Flag
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^^oops, meant bewitched! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:25 PM Flag
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no way. she is much prettier. thinner. shorter. nicer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 10:20 PM Flag
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mrs. kravitz was very thin [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.25.09, 04:09 AM Flag
[ - ] Inside Info; Just got back from afternoon coffee with a friend who works at a TT. She said the rumor is that many TTs will be over enrolling/Wait listing more kids this year to pad enrollment. They believe MANY families will have to leave the city during the next 6 months and there will be empty seats in fall... Thoughts? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 01.24.09, 03:07 PM Flag
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Don't know. In our TT, nobody talks about it. It's business as usual. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:23 PM Flag
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In ours people talk about it. It depends on who you mix with I think. I know many families who are not on FA but aren't super rich. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:56 PM Flag
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dh in financial career, he agrees the next six months will be beyond what anyone has seen in their lifetime (financial aspects of how USA functions), also think schools would be foolish to say "no" to any dc they might accept if financial circumstances made more than usual number seats avail for WL kids. Why in the world would the schools give a straight "no" and then have seats empty? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 03:27 PM Flag
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I meant anyone our age (with dcs in private). Looks like we are headed into something like we had in the 30s [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:13 PM Flag
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np: finance mom here and ITA. Still surprised at how many NYers who aren't close enough to whats happening on Wall Street are still in denial. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:37 PM Flag
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There are still a lot of people applying to privates and in privates that don't rely on Wall Street income. There aren't that many seats to fill. That said, I would expect the schools to pad the WL just to leave their options open, that is just common sense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:42 PM Flag
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i think it will surprise people how many leave [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 04:44 PM Flag
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I will cry about the economy but LMAO at those private school bastards [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:07 PM Flag
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I work in an university and I think this is pretty common practice with any admission process. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:22 PM Flag
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Right. But where they might normally accept, say, 55 for a class of 50, they might now accept 60 to avoid having to go too far down the wl and diminish their cachet. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 05:47 PM Flag
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I work at a private school & many are doing this because they need more students and more tuition, which is why it is a fairly good year to be applying for an off year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:13 PM Flag
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I work at a private school also, and am involved in admissions, and we are not intending to increase enrollment at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:15 PM Flag
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sure, but no post is suggesting a school would increase enrollment, just increase acceptances, correct? the idea being that yield might decrease based upon the economy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 06:59 PM Flag
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Exactly. Don't know where she got the idea that anyone thought schools would be increasing enrollement. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 07:05 PM Flag
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Read above "need more students and more tuition" more than suggests increasing enrollment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 01.24.09, 08:24 PM Flag
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