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[ - ] What is St. Ignatius Tuition? Can't find it on the web, tia 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 08:28 AM Flag
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around $7K before donation and after school [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:30 AM Flag
[ - ] How many of the most important lessons of your life were taught to you in a classroom? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:28 AM Flag
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pretty much none of them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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I learned one of mine while I was volunteering in my son's classroom. Does that count? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:36 AM Flag
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zero. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:38 AM Flag
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Does kind of beg the question of why the school hysteria is so intense. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:39 AM Flag
[ - ] I wonder how the diversity parents feel being the only ones at our "tt" preschool with multiple acceptances. It is so blatant. Most love the system finally working for them instead of against them. 39 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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diversity parents? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:28 AM Flag
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we deserve it. smart and multicultural. we bring more to the table. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:51 AM Flag
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np: My diverse DC had 99x3 ERBs and 99SB, so do not worry about her bringing the IQ level down in the classroom. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:56 AM Flag
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no, you bring the same amount to the table. you just bring a different thing. (it's that kind of attitude that brings the claws out, just fyi.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:31 AM Flag
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well, since diversity is desirable, they obviously do bring something more to the table...signed, white male [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:21 PM Flag
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a diverse classroom is a well-balanced classroom. everyone brings something to the table. no less, no more. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:26 PM Flag
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1st of all, in almost any comparison of 2 different kids/people, 1 will bring more and one less...just the way of the world...but more specifically, if a school is looking to create a diverse classroom, and there are plenty of non-diverse children already in, those with diversity by definiion bring more to the table from the perspective of the admissions office [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:30 PM Flag
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you are arguing that a dc with black skin (for example) has more value than one with white skin. that simply isn't true as far as the schools are concerned, and it's a slippery slope to try to argue otherwise. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 02:41 PM Flag
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One win, 200 years of losses. Yup, we're even now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:55 AM Flag
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seriously? are you begrudging this? have you never been in a position that you can relate? for once, cut them a break. really. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:08 AM Flag
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thank you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:18 AM Flag
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Oh come on, enough is enough, where does it end??? We now have our first minority president, so shouldn't we finally end what has become a racist program?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.18.09, 10:52 AM Flag
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i hope they feel great. especially knowing that someone as ugly as you didn't do as well! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:31 AM Flag
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this has to be a fake post. who would say that? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:31 AM Flag
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This is unlikely to be fake. Ultra light-skinned,straight haired Latina here. I've been around such conversation more times than I care to recall. The assumptions, ignorance and zero fund of relatable life experience are abundant. When my parents emigrated to NYC in the late 60's, it took them a month to figure out that my very dark(Moreno)father shouldn't be accompanying my mother(very light, no accent)on their apartment hunt appts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:28 AM Flag
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So BLATANT huh? You know you don't sound like the typical UB entitled racist. Something about your post seems genuine, and makes me want to talk to you for a second. How many "diversity kids" were there at your tt preschool? I bet the number is less than 5%. If so, your tt preschool properly reflects the tt preschool population. Now why did you send dc to a tt preschool? I am guess ing that it was to facilate his/her entry into a tt ongoing. I am also guessing that this is the same reason the "diversity" parents sent their dcs there. Now let's look at the tt ongoings. In each class of 16-17, there will be 1-2 "diversity" students. Unless it's Dalton, there won't be three, trust and beleive that. So your dcs "diversity" friends will be competing with all the other "diversity" children who apply for a possibility of 3 to 6 spots. Your dcs are competing for a possibility of 45 - 48 spots. The reason it appears that the diversity children from your tt preschool are doing so well, is because so many more white students apply than "diverse" ones. The reasons for that are myriad, and reflect the inequality that persists in our society. Nonetheless, of the relatively few "diverse" children who apply, the schools can still afford to be extremely selective, as they have only 3-6 spots to award, and some of those are reserved for siblings. So they can afford to cherry pick the 99x3 diversity babies, and in particular the 99x3 diversity children who do not need financial aid. And they do. So OP, when you see the diverse families in the hallway celebrating their multiple acceptances, please know that they have not succeeded at your expense. They have succeeded because so few "diverse" people actually have the resources to even apply. I apologize for the long post, but I felt your pain, and I did not want to dismiss you as a bad person, at least not without attempting to at least give you another point of view. I hope wherever your dcs end up, they are healthy and happy! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:32 AM Flag
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Thanks, I guess my post sounded much more ignorant than I wanted it to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:52 AM Flag
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Not to worry. Everyone says stuff they don't mean when they are upset. I am sure you are a lovely person and your kids will be fine! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:24 AM Flag
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you seem nice too. i cant stand the people who are so hostile. as for op, i ahve made same observation . doesnt mean it makes up for 200 eyars like nasty people above said but its good to know so you can plan accordingly. diversity helps. anyone who doesnt admit that is as self aggrandizing perhapas as the whites probably were for years. jsut liek the alumini wealthy who aslo think they deserve everything . good for them - its their turn and as someone said they are every bit as accomplished and in many cases perhaps moreso - but to say it doesnt exist is annoying . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:16 PM Flag
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as a wl parent at a preschool where i only know diversity families who were accepted to my first choice school, i am pissed off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:18 AM Flag
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What school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:20 AM Flag
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Grace Church and i don't think any are accepting it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:22 AM Flag
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So they are just trying to screw you then huh? You poor underprivileged love. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:23 AM Flag
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no, it is a backwards admit system [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:30 AM Flag
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That school takes whte to a whole new level. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:28 AM Flag
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why? are you an idiot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:21 AM Flag
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I am sure you are. You should try to get a handle on that entitlement syndrome before it costs you more than a morning's discomfort. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:23 AM Flag
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You need to stop blaming your situation on other peoples 'diversity'. We were a pissed off 'minority' family and can't imagine blaming all those 'non-diverse' families for taking seats that our child was 'entitled' to. It's an over 50% crapshoot. If you saw your kid at Grace, you were probably already predisposed to a rather non-diverse environment. Well karma IS a boomerang. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 12:35 PM Flag
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You do realize that the one or two "diversity" kids did not take your child's place, don't you? You do realize it was another non-diverse kid who took the place. You should be mad at them. You're going to be upset about 2 fewer slots when there are 15 other slots your kid didn't get. But I guess if it makes you feel better. Never mind if the diverse kids actually had good scores and deserved their spots.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 01:00 PM Flag
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bitter much? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:27 AM Flag
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I applied to top-ranked colleges out of a rural Michigan high school, and I'm sure I had an advantage over equally-qualified applicants out of Westchester or LI. But I had to overcome certain things as well, in order to get to that position (the average parent in my town thought college was just great, but didn't see all that much of a difference between Harvard and our county community college). When you're talking about private institutions and a selective, discretionary admissions process, nothing is every going to be 100% "fair". [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:29 AM Flag
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why so much talk about it this year? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:29 AM Flag
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there are diversity families are our preschool who are waiting on WLs. don't make assumptions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:30 AM Flag
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really, they must truly be dumb dumbs [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:32 AM Flag
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We are white, not connected, boring jobs, not rich, multiple acceptances (but not Trinity) with super smart, social and charming DC. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:43 AM Flag
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there's someone who posts this all the time. as if there aren't token boring, unconnected families accepted at every school, every year. there are plenty of dcs who are just as smart and charming with families just as boring as yours who got so. you got lucky. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 12:55 PM Flag
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np You sound like the mom of a shut out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:34 PM Flag
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they're used to being a minority. hence the term diversity. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 01:35 PM Flag
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Feel great! Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.16.09, 03:02 PM Flag
[ - ] So I have a Jewish (though not religious) husband. We have a DS and a DD - both with blond hair and blue eyes! I'm getting a bit tired of my husband making comments like, "Who would have thought that I'd have little Aryan Nation babies!", comments along that vein. I'm a strawberry blond with blue eyes - what did he expect? It's started to piss me off. Even he talks about how damn cute they are! 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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Similar situation. Jewish mom, agnostic dad. Blonde/blue eyed kids being raised Jewish. If your husband's comments offend you, let him know. I am sure it is just stupid humor. This does not sound like a big deal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:45 AM Flag
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Aryan Nation babies is really deeply offensive. You need to sit him down on that one. He can marvel at their beauty, but he needs to know that his genes are in there too, and not alienate himself from them just because they look a little different. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:48 AM Flag
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Are they his children -- REALLY? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:54 AM Flag
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np. I'm wondering the same thing. Brown/brown almost always trumps blonde/blue in the genetic mix ... extremely rare for blonde/blue to be dominant. The odds of one kid being like this are slim. The odds of TWO kids ... astronomical. I'm wondering what the mailman looks like. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:59 AM Flag
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nnp: did they teach you math in school? the odds of 1 kid being like this are 1/4, and the odds of 2 are 1/16. Not very likely, but not ASTRONOMICAL either. I certainly hope you're not the one who helps dc's with their homework. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:01 AM Flag
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and he may not be 100% either. A lot of non-religious jews have an Irish grandmother back there somewhere. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:04 AM Flag
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I said my husband was Jewish - I never said he was brown/brown. He actually has brown hair and green eyes. Both of his 100% Jewish parents have blue eyes - so the blue eyes are no surprise. And lots of little kids have blond hair that becomes darker as they get older. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:12 AM Flag
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my son is blond hair blue eyes. Jewish. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:55 AM Flag
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That's deep. Does you husband have some sort of "color complex"? Sort like in the Black community. Our dirty little secret of preferring children who are light skinned, with thin noses, light eyes, and "good hair"? I had an aunt who was very dark skinned but married a very light skinned Black man and when her two sons were born all she talked about was thank God they were light or thank God they have curly hair or thank God they were "red-boned". [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:58 AM Flag
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Hmm...I never thought of it like that before. I wonder... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:28 AM Flag
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i don't see it so much anymore but i don't think you understand the absolute fascination jewish people used to have with blond hair and blue eyes. it was this anomaly. kind of like having triplets or being a woman who is six and a half feet tall. it was always comment-worthy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:02 AM Flag
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what makes him jewish? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:21 AM Flag
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I'm not even going to entertain your question... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:27 AM Flag
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you just did. is it a religion or is it a race? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:39 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone's dd attend one of the tt ss schools and NOT live in Manhattan? If so, how do you do the commute? Can you drive to the city and have dd get one the Atlantic or another bus route at one of its regular stops? Or just drive all the way each way twice a day? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 08:23 AM Flag
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anyone? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:28 AM Flag
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i see HS kids doing it all the time. LIRR to subway [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:29 AM Flag
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I drive my DS in and then sit and read at Starbucks all day and then drive him home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:30 AM Flag
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op Really? I have younger dc so wouldn't be able to do that, but that sounds great. Or do you go out of your mind with boredom? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:32 AM Flag
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No, I'm just kidding. That would be ridiculous. As would driving in twice a day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:36 AM Flag
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op Not to me, but OK. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:43 AM Flag
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Where do you live? Jersey? Brooklyn? Westchester? It obviously depends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:39 AM Flag
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Why does it depend? But OK, Queens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:49 AM Flag
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Well, some towns in Westchester offer buses. In Jersey, you'd take NJ Transit and switch to subway. From queens, why would you not take the subway the whole way? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:54 AM Flag
[ - ] my dd is singing some HSM song but I can't seem to locate. It goes, (according to her): High School step the best..something..step into the future", Anyone know what song this is? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
TTC 02.18.09, 08:19 AM Flag
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My dd says almost exactly the same words. I think it is actually the HIgh School musical theme song. From the CD. I will go look it up and come back. We have it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 11.16.09, 05:24 PM Flag
[ - ] For tt all girls' schools, how many uniforms is it recommended you purchase (for k)? And what's the approximate cost of each? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 08:16 AM Flag
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We've gotten 3 but could have probably made due with 2. They are around $50 for each skirt I think. One option is to buy 2 new and get a 3rd at the used uniform sale for your extra one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:23 AM Flag
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Three is plenty. Each school is a little different. Brearley all you need to buy is the tunic and the gym shorts (any collared white shirt is fine). The girls also must wear sneakers but pick their own. Some schools have uniform shoes and shirts which adds to the price. All schools have uniform exchanges but few people use them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:26 AM Flag
[ - ] If you receive a spot after being WListed, do you have to accept immediately or can you take a day to decide? 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 08:16 AM Flag
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I am wondering about this too? Seems like a double whammy to be WListed and then also have to commit prior to the 2/25 deadline. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:17 AM Flag
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Technically you can wait until 2/25 but you will be pressured to respond sooner. If you told them you would accept if they took you off the WL then obviously you have to accept right away. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:20 AM Flag
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Do parents actually announce to the WL school they would accept right away? Why, any benefits? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:22 AM Flag
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Yes. We told them they were our FC and we'd accept immediately. Because it's true and we wanted to show real interest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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It allows the school to fill a slot immediately and not have to wait until 2/25 to find out. Obviously they have to want your DC in the first place, but it could make the difference in a tie. The other way to phrase the question is: if the WL school is your top choice, why wouldn't you tell them you'll accept right away? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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We have 3WL (no accepts - we are dying), and told each one we would accept ASAP. You have to push each one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:37 AM Flag
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3 WL and told each one we would accept immediately. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:38 AM Flag
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Good strategy. Being coy only works if you have one in the bag. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:41 AM Flag
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I think you would be well within your rights to say something along the lines of, "Oh, how wonderful, we're thrilled. By when do we need to let you know?" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:20 AM Flag
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Are you serious? The calls will start on Monday. Contracts are due on Wednesday. There are huge lists of people who are waiting for spots. Unfortunately, you need to accept or decline pretty much on the spot. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:26 AM Flag
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Yes, I am serious. What is someone is waitlisted at several places and hasn't heard from all of them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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Then someone who knows they want that spot should get it instead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:32 AM Flag
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I don't know about "should," but OK. Not in the application process this year anyway, but I guess I've learned a few things for down the road! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:48 AM Flag
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too bad. most schools will move down the list if you do not get back to them soon enough. soon enough will depend on which day you get called. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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This just adds to the Tuesday madness. Everyone holding on to all the spots till the last 5 minutes. I think you can ask to call them back the same day to confirm acceptance and then frantically call your other schools to make sure there are no spots. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:35 AM Flag
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You won't "hear from all of them." You'll be lucky if you hear from one of them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:36 AM Flag
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we were given 2 days to decide. We took it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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Before or after Feb 25? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:29 AM Flag
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before. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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Did you take the spot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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yes I am the poster from above. We were wl'ed everywhere and loved two schools. When one of our number one schools called we were given 48 hours and took the spot. we asked doa when they needed to know. She told us. And we complied. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:44 AM Flag
[ - ] 4yo ds told me he wants a job so he can earn money for toys, but i'm stumped as to what he could do that would warrant pay - i expect him to do his chores. 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:09 AM Flag
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Taking out light trash or perhaps just having him empty the bathroom trash can into the kitchen trash can. Teach him to clean the bathroom sink. He won't do a good job and will spill water on the floor but it will give him a big boy job to do. Give him some windex wipes and have him clean the TV screens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:14 AM Flag
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don't give allowance for chores. 4 is a little young for an allowance, but I like his moxy. Why don't you ask him what he had in mind? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:14 AM Flag
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just curious...if you're not giving an allowance for doing chores, then what are you teaching your child by giving them an allowance? won't this teach a child to expect money to be given without any effort/responsibility? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:20 AM Flag
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np: my dd is a little older and there's an implicit understanding that she earns her allowance through getting good grades at school, practicing her dance and piano, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:22 AM Flag
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There are other ways to show responsibility than by doing manual chores [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:23 AM Flag
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I think this is adorable and commendable. You could give him a quarter at the end of the day for cleaning up his toys! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:24 AM Flag
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teaching them how to manage money. responsible for using money to pay for whatever things you decide their allowance will be for. clothes, school lunch, gifts, whatever. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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op: this is my conundrum - imho, an allowance is the equivalent of welfare, but he's too young to really 'earn' any $ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:51 AM Flag
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but the kid wants a job--it probably has more to do with emulating adult responsibility--making his bed and keeping his room tidy and helping mom with something once a week--why not give him a dollar or two to save up for something--some nice life lessons here [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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let him bring the recycling and keep the change. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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Not OP, but that's a good one. OP, do you have a lot of pennies at home to wrap? Teach him how to wrap pennies (the manual way, not with a machine). Then take him to a bank to turn them into paper money. I loved wrapping pennies with my great-granddad. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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My favorite website on this subject is www.prosperityforkids.com It's what we do with our kids, and they love their 4-slot piggy banks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:29 AM Flag
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it's actually http://www.prosperity4kids.com - great site! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:52 AM Flag
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Oops. You're right. Clearly I'm not a shill... heh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:23 AM Flag
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An allowance is a way to learn to manage money for kids and to share in the household spending money (if I was a SAHM I wouldn't consider money I spent to be welfare). Chores are to learn how to contribute to the household. Extra money for extra work is a way to learn about earning money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:58 AM Flag
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General Topics 02.18.09, 10:28 AM Flag
[ - ] Tell me stories about getting pg at 38. For medical reasons, I can't try for #2 until I'll be 38 and a few months. Had #1 at 35, got pg on the first try then, 3x in a row (lost the first two due to thyroid prob, now corrected). Sis had kids at 35 and 39, also got pg. easily. I'm nervous about waiting but have no choice (could push it maybe a month or two earlier, but would that make much difference?). 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 02.18.09, 08:09 AM Flag
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I'm 38 and am pg with #2. Happened on the first try. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:13 AM Flag
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what was it like trying for #1? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:15 AM Flag
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I'm also 38 and pg with #2. Also happened on first try. #1 was also easy. If you got pg the first time easily and fixed the medical problems, I think your odds are good of getting pregnant again easily. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:17 AM Flag
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what about the aging eggs thing? this is what scares me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:18 AM Flag
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^^in other words, it's not the thyroid thing, which was fine in pg that resulted in ds, it's the age issue that worries me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:19 AM Flag
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had #1 at 37.5 took 6mo of TTC. Second child was unplanned at 39, was planning on having more, but not that close together. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:19 AM Flag
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Got pG twice on first tries, 33 on first 36 on second. Now I am 41 and been trying for a year. epro Endo MD said my fertility bloods are very good but she gave me an injection of HCG to hopefully help timing to be more precise. Let u know if it worked in 10 more days [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:21 AM Flag
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what it does to your body is not good. horrible back pain (incl. herniated disc postpartum) for one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:22 AM Flag
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what? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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pp: what are u talking about? the injection. it's nothing. just the hormone that causes ovulation [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:31 AM Flag
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talking about having a baby in your late 30s or older. the wear and tear on the body is worse. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:37 AM Flag
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May I ask what the thyroid problem was? I have hypothyroidism and am wondering if that will affect ttc #2. what was your treatment? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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I was hyper, had it treated with radioactive, now hypo. Even the hyper ended up being no problem once we knew, but hypo is better in pg. because you aren't supposed to take anti-thyroid meds. Thyroid stuff is very dealable in pg, so I wouldn;t worry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:49 AM Flag
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I had no problems with #1 at 36 and #2 at 40 and no physical problems w/pregnancies either. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:34 AM Flag
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NP: Hijack. I just turned 38. Just miscarried #3. I'm worried it's going to take a while to get pregnant again, and I worry about how old is too old? Have DC almost 4yo and DD almost 2yo [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:36 AM Flag
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3rd m/c or 3rd dc? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:50 AM Flag
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Sorry - meant miscarried third child this week. (First miscarriage) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:53 AM Flag
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I am OP and this happened to my sister. She got pg again right away and had the baby. So.... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:55 AM Flag
[ - ] Moms of kids who got 99 on ERBs/OLSAT did you know early on that your kid was bright? Did they reach their milestones early. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:03 AM Flag
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99+ on SB and 99 OLSAT. Thought he was cute, but that's about it. Never considered him particularly bright. Did think we was a verbal kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:20 AM Flag
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Dc had 99+ on SB and 99 on OLSAT. Yes, he hit milestones early and we could tell he was very bright. Everyone would comment on how bright he was from age 10 months on. Seriously. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:27 AM Flag
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ditto. 99sb and erb [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:54 AM Flag
[ - ] when does the gondola ride end at the Bronx Zoo? Is it running now? Can't find info on website. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:02 AM Flag
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No longer running [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:10 AM Flag
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SkyFari is already done; We'll miss it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 01:00 PM Flag
[ - ] Difference between males and females: my nephew updated his facebook status to read: X is thankful and happy for all the new things in my life: my new fiancee, my new laptop, my new sunglasses, and my new phone. read this aloud to dh and dd. dd laughed out loud. dh didn't get why it was funny. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:59 AM Flag
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your dd is a keen one! I would have LOL too [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:02 AM Flag
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don't see what's so funny... and i'm not a dh. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:07 AM Flag
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check the index to your Sociology 101 book: Women, Objectification of [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:09 AM Flag
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np: why is it objectification? because he used "thing"? i don't think you can necessarily make that ase [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:12 AM Flag
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I think it's being lumped in with consumer goods [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:17 AM Flag
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and he included fiancee in a list of objects, consumer items. It's funny. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:17 AM Flag
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it was unintentionally funny. as his fiancee responding to his update: me vs. technology. how nice [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:11 AM Flag
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at least she was mentioned first. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:15 AM Flag
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OP: that's exactly what he said when I called him on it! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:18 AM Flag
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his fiancee and all of his THINGS are the same! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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I didn't get the objectification thing; I almsot read the opposite. I more think it's funny because though he may genuinely love his fiancee he also genuinely loves all his toys! Guy fetishizing objects. A woman would say something more moony: good friends, exercise class, the spring that's coming soon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:13 AM Flag
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Also, if you read the engagement ring posts on UB, for example, you will see that objectification of love isn't exclusively male at all! Good love from DH = big rock, juicy sweats, Bugaboo. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:16 AM Flag
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that is certainly true. High-status mates help confer status on a weak spouse. That's why the loserish guys only want to go out with the super-hot girls. And why the women who are most obsessed with how tall their boyfriend is are the short ones. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:31 AM Flag
[ - ] Moms of kids with late birthdays (after Sept) did you apply to Hunter one year, and then the privates the following? So, your kid had to take the ERBs twice? How does this work? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:54 AM Flag
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hunter doesn't use erbs. so you just test for hunter one year, then erb the next year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:56 AM Flag
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Ok, thanks. Is the test only at Hunter? I can't download the PDFs from their site. I thought I had another year till this started, just realized I have to do Hunter next year! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:01 AM Flag
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hunter has its own process, separate from all the other schools. 1st test is SBV, then some kids called back to testing at the school for round 2. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:11 AM Flag
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Late bday kid at Hunter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:57 AM Flag
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Congrats. Did you apply to other publics? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:02 AM Flag
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got Hunter placement before we received OLSAT score, did not submit G&T lottery form, decided was happy with Hunter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:21 AM Flag
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that's wonderful. hope it works well for your dc [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
[ - ] ok. have posted before about being fed up with the burbs (ha-not the only one...all those post are not me...obviously, I am not alone!)...is it even possible to try and move back to the city on 200k?? we are looking at a few years with no bonus...and I really, really do not want to go back to work (as DH has suggested if I really hate NJ). Could we buy anything? (1DS, so we would want a 2bed) (would not move to Brooklyn,Queens, etc. BTW...he would only move to be back in Manhattan) 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:54 AM Flag
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There are some great "deals" in Midtown West for 2bd room apartments. New buildings. We live there and make less than $200K/year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:25 AM Flag
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op: thanks ;-) guess I just needed to hear my pipe-dream of getting out of the 'burbs could be a reality...now...just neeed to find out how much I'd loose now if I sold this darn house :-( Midtown West would work for us I think - DH works midtown east - so, not too bad a walk. will run that one by him (or maybe show up and kidknap him for lunch for apt. hunt!) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:10 AM Flag
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Enough with these idiotic questions. The median salary in Manhattan is $70K. Yes, MILLIONS of people ... including entire families (including my own) live in the city on less than six figures. Get the Fcuk over yourself, please. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:19 AM Flag
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not fair. seriously. I lived in nyc for many years....I made under 50k/year (about 8yrs ago) and lived very well, thank you, on the UWS. got married...had kid...wanted more space...wanted to own something...and bought a house (actually, we are on our third in the burbs)I think perhaps I should have phrased thing differetly (!) you get USED to having an easy life and space, etc. and I wouldn't live in the same type of place I had at this point in my life. (I'm not syaing you do, BTW!!!) I was just curious how much I would really need to purchase a nice 2nedroom in a nice-ish neighborhood and not feel I had to go back to work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:46 AM Flag
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It is a difficult choice to down-size and also difficult to know how much your cost-of-living in the city vs. the suburbs with children will be if you have not been in both situations. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:47 AM Flag
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op: we also have very little equity in our house at this point :-( maybe only 50-100k, so I'm worried if we would even qualify for anything in the city mortgage-wise [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:56 AM Flag
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WHY WHY WHY do you need to buy in the city??? I don't get it. If you spend on a house/apt. that is still owned by the bank (=mortgage), and it appreciates the same as say a second property that costs less (house upstate, property in puerto rico or Tuscany etc) - why does it matter. For I have a friend who bought a farm upstate 10 yrs ago on like 50 acres for $100K - did work on it herself and now easy can sell it for 7 times that amount...she has been renting the city all along. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:25 AM Flag
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BTW - you can easily get a 3 bedroom in the city now, with about 1500 sq ft for under $5K/mo and if schools are not an issue - you can even get a townhouse for that price in Park Slope. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:28 AM Flag
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I don't know why but you sound super annoying so I wish you would just stay in the suburbs. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:02 AM Flag
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I'm feeling seriously sorry for your DH. You really, really don't want to work, but yet you're going to insist on being miserable while he supports you wherever you are. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:06 AM Flag
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We are in the EXACT same boat. Our plan is to rent a great place for about $4.5K/mo and then get a place upstate for weekends and go skiing (around $200K, which will give us like $1000/mo mortgage to carry). Kids will go to great public as we are moving based on this and we are pretty confident that they might have shot at G&T. I have run all the numbers - this comes out cheaper then suburbs and scores at schools we are looking at in city are neck in neck with our top school in suburb (in fact some gen ed's scored better!). Good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:16 AM Flag
[ - ] Asked late last night, but I want to ask again, for any Anderson parents out there: If my child is smart but a little dreamy, would she be happy at Anderson? Is it all speed or are there sufficient creative, reflective moments in a day for a kid like that? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 07:52 AM Flag
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Why are you asking now? Results are due out until April, and even so, lots of 99s didn't get in to Anderson. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:53 AM Flag
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Just on to the next obsession. Humor me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:04 AM Flag
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If you dc is smart enough to get a 99 on the Olsat, I am sure she is not as dreamy as you imagine [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:55 AM Flag
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In Kindergarten it is very playbased and easy going but starting in 1st grade they get more academic. That being said they do wonderful projects, the kids love Mr. Moy the science teacher and his creative teaching. They learn about the community, architecture and photography starting in 1st. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:58 AM Flag
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Can you tell me more about how the photography study works? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:10 AM Flag
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I have a very dreamy ds at Anderson. He loves it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:22 AM Flag
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Can you tell me grade? And - what does he love about it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:28 AM Flag
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My dd is at Anderson. I'd call her more playful and goofy than dreamy, but she's doing fabulous. Worth it to try for MSC as well - not G&T, but progressive and possibly a good fit for a smart, deamy, creative kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 04:23 PM Flag
[ - ] I'm sure this has already been discussed ad nauseum, but bear with me. I'm looking for opinions on the best public elementary schools in Manhattan. Go! 50 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.18.09, 07:51 AM Flag
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234 & 6 downtown, 89 also, though all are getting crowded and running short on space/resources. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:06 AM Flag
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top schools downtown are 234 and 41. 89 doesn't really come close. 6 is uptown. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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290 is beating 6 in the scores. both are crowded [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:13 AM Flag
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hijack, which is the best on UES? how about UWS? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:29 AM Flag
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UWS - 199 and 87 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:46 AM Flag
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and MSC [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:53 AM Flag
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You have to lottery into MSC, 199 and 87 are zoned. And while I know many, many happy families there, their overall test scores are below 199 and 87 and on par with 75, which is a much larger school and has a lot more non-English speaking kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:47 AM Flag
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Scores do not tell the whole story - 75 is in no way comparable to MSC. MSC elementary grade test scores are on par with 87 and 199 - it's when the elementary scores are aggregated with MSC's middle school scores that they are lower. The year my dc was in 4th grade our 4th grade scores were higher than PS 6. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:03 AM Flag
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Not a slam but a serious question, why, if the scores are that good at the 4th grade level do they drop off in middle school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:24 AM Flag
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The middle school is still a work in progress - many kids leave for Delta etc., or want to somewhere new in middle school. The new kids who come in did not have the benefit of MSC all the way through. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:30 AM Flag
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I know MSC has its own lottery, but is there any chance of getting into 199 and 87 through the D3 lottery or will zoned kids fill up all the spots? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 01:51 PM Flag
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UES - 6 was always considered the best, but in recent years 290 has been scoring higher. my understanding is that 290 is more progressive and 6 more traditional. 6 definitely has nicer facilities (cleaner, newer looking, gym, playground). 158 has in recent years been up to par with the other two - it has a gym and play yard, but the bldg is def really old and not as nice as 6. moms i know seem to be happy with 183 as well, but not sure about how the scores have been. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.24.09, 08:02 AM Flag
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NP. I live on the UES and agree with this summary. I know of people happy at 290 and 6. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.24.09, 08:07 AM Flag
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Depends on the kid. For my too-cerebral 99+ SB kid, it's PS 3 by far. I pulled him out of TT private and moved into zone to send him there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:33 AM Flag
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I would be very interested to hear why you think 3 was the place for him. We are zoned for 3 and have a very smart kid, not old enough for school yet, but coming up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:06 AM Flag
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Academically, my kid is always going to be fine. He read before he turned 3. He's been doing basic algebra (4x+7=19, solve for x) since kindergarten. PS 3 has done a nice job of rounding him out, without letting him suffer academically. Do I think his writing would be a lot better if we'd kept him at TT? Sure. His math? Well, he's doing some pre-calc now and PS 3 has been great in accommodating that. (Oddly, his TT was less excited about letting him excel at his own pace in math.) I think the TTs have plenty of extras, but academics are the focus. PS 3 really is about educating the whole person. I love the art he brings home, and I really appreciate that his friends are all over the map intellectually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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Such a funny post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:42 AM Flag
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np: I think it's funny and a little sweet. But I'm also fairly certain I know the OP and her kids. We like PS 3, but she practically worships the place. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:57 AM Flag
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She sounds like a freak. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:13 AM Flag
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nnp: She sounds like a mom who doesn't know how to properly educate a gifted kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:22 AM Flag
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She doesn't know how to educate herself. Basic algebra since Kindergarten? If he is so smart he should be at Hunter. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:28 AM Flag
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If it's who I think it is (there's really only one kid at PS 3 that this could be, though there was a 5th grader last year doing calculus who is at Salk now), Hunter wouldn't have been an option. They moved to the city when the kid was in 2nd grade. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:35 AM Flag
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Then her kid wasn't at a TT private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:49 AM Flag
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I doubt very much that there is a single "proper" way to educate a gifted child. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:42 AM Flag
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Huh, what makes you say that? The above sounds like a perfectly good answer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:41 AM Flag
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NEST, hands down. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 08:54 AM Flag
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np: I agree. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:46 AM Flag
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Not a chance. Horrible school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.20.09, 07:17 AM Flag
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PS 183. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:32 AM Flag
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How about 41 and 3 and Midtown West? DOn't actually go to these, so others who know more can chime in, but have always heard wonderful things about these schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:39 AM Flag
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41 is one of the best publics in the city, 3 is almost as good, mtw is an unzoned school that's decent if you don't have other good options. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:00 AM Flag
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i heard mtw has some amazing arts programs, etc and was considering it over 41 -- bad idea? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:11 AM Flag
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yes, imo. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:38 AM Flag
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thnx -- i will rethink and look into this a little more deeply. 41 is much closer, so actually glad to hear this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 02:09 PM Flag
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Again, it depends on the kid. I know kids who left 41 and are thriving at 3. And I know kids who left 3 and are thriving at 41. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:11 AM Flag
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PS41 uses TERC math. Yuck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:46 AM Flag
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as do most gen eds. you still couldn't pay me to send dc to nest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 10:49 AM Flag
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I didn't mention NEST+m? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:22 AM Flag
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I think the point was that NEST is a prominent non-TERC option. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 11:43 AM Flag
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Your dc probably couldn't get in anyways so don't sweat it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 05:48 PM Flag
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nope. 99 ds got in but we turned it down. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 05:56 PM Flag
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Yeah right. Why did you even apply if you "couldn't be paid" to send your dc to Nest? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 07:17 PM Flag
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ranked it on a lark (really only wanted anderson but thought we should rank two of three citywides) without knowing much about it. toured, did some research and were totally turned off. didn't really care since we only wanted a anyway. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.20.09, 07:32 AM Flag
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loved 41. dd was young for class, tested into HUnter and we left, but we would have been very happy there if we stayed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.24.09, 07:54 AM Flag
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top public gen eds are: 6, 290, 87, 199, 41 and 234. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:59 AM Flag
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"Good public school" is a bit of an oxymoron in NYC. Our public school system has one of the worst graduation rates in the USA, and the curriculum at the schools mentioned above is no different from that in the "worst" public schools in the outer boroughs. The kids at schools like 6 do well in spite of the curriculum, not because of it. And it's indisputable that the longer kids stay in NYC public schools, the worse they do in terms of standardized test performance. If you can't afford private, then explore Catholic schools. Just look at all of your options carefully and before you settle on a public school. The lone exceptions are Hunter and NEST + M, who use entirely different curriculums than the other publics. Which highlights why gifted students in Manhattan are so underserved by the public school system. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 02:29 PM Flag
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Well put! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 05:50 PM Flag
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the graduation rate is way up under bloomie (whatever you have to say about him, you have to give him and klein credit for that) and the curriculum except for terc, which is taught at many schools in the burbs, is perfectly fine. i'd like to see your "indisputable" statistics about the longer dcs stay in nyc publics like the top ones mentioned above (which is what we are talking about), the worse they do on standardized tests, because i think that's bull. finally, i looked at catholic schools, and except for regis, i was suprised by how mediocre they were, and this was confirmed by parents who were there and left. i don't know if this has to do with the shrinking funds, the aging faculty or other issues, but they aren't good. finally, nest doesn't use "an entirely different curriculum." it is part of the doe after all. know what you are talking about before you post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 06:02 PM Flag
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I could respond to all of your points above, but I've got limited time so will just respond to one: "the graudation is way up under Bloomie". Our rich mayor won't listen to his critics when it comes to education, and is nothing but self-congratulatory on the subject of public schools. Here's my favorite from the latest PR campaign: "Public school graduation rates are up 20% since mayoral control in 2002! Keep it going NYC!" The on-time graduation rate in 2008 was 45.2%, and that is because NYC public schools suck. Get your head out of the sand. The public schools like PS6 and PS199 are popular with some parents because they are a rarity in NYC: they have a majority white population. But that doesn't mean they teach any diffently from other schools - - indeed, except for Hunter and NEST + M, virtually all public schools teach the same crummy curriculum mandated by Bloomberg and Klein. Are graduation rates up? Sure they are. But they haven't gone up every year since 2002. They went down in 2005, and in 2006 the on-time graduation rate was 38.6%. You find Catholic schools to be mediocre? Their graduation rate is consistently above 95% (98% last year) and 80% fo their graduates go on to college. NYC public schools can only dream of being so successful. The "best NYC public schools", to borrow the whitewasher Clara Hemphill's phrase - - schools like 199, 6, 234 etc., are mediocre. The balance of them just plain stink. Catholic schools and most privates remain far superior to NYC public schools, and that's not going to change. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.18.09, 09:56 PM Flag
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np. i know this sounds like let them eat cake, but graduation rates really don't concern me since at our zoned school they are vitually 100%. and there's really no logic in arguing that because the curriculum at top schools is the same used at schools where the dropout rate is over 50%, the curriculum must suck. is the curriculum perfect? no. do many dcs get an excellent education at nyc publics and go on to top universities? yes. as for catholic schools, they really aren't so great and haven't been in a long time. and that includes st. ignatius, ephiphany, etc. only regis is a top-drawer catholic school and that's because it's not funded by the diocese. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.20.09, 07:39 AM Flag
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