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[ - ] Can ISAAGNY be sued for colluding with member schools on its cut-off dates? It seems illegal somehow, no?? 39 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 03.12.09, 10:27 AM Flag
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I think some unemployed big law litigator mom is looking into this, no? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:28 AM Flag
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RICO! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:28 AM Flag
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I pucture Babby being led out in cuffs. lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:28 AM Flag
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There are no ISAAGNY cut-off dates for age of child. Schools are free to choose their own. ISAAGNY is about making uniform dates for admission process. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:47 AM Flag
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There is obvious collusion though under the umbrella of ISAAGNY. This should not be allowed. The courts break up other monopolies, why not this one? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:50 AM Flag
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it is hardly a monopoly. they are independant schools that are all part of the same professional organization. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:04 AM Flag
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It's an organization that allows schools to collude. That should be illegal [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:09 AM Flag
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get a life! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:11 AM Flag
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What are you afraid of -- the truth? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:53 PM Flag
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It's not even a monopoly on PRIVATE education, and certainly not education generally. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:11 AM Flag
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omg, are you joking? you are equating voluntary membership in a professional organization, with rules about admissions deadlines and processes with anti-trust violations? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:10 AM Flag
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A number of these schools are not for profit and/or associated with religious institutions. As such they are accountable under Title 12 and possibly Title 14. If found not to be in compliance, yes, they can be sued in a civil case, although there would never be criminal liability. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:15 AM Flag
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I think you're almost as crazy as "20 m/o-letter A" mom. But only almost. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:17 AM Flag
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Why -- because we smell something fishy and are blowing the whistle on it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:46 PM Flag
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Universities have routinely been held accountable for unfair admissions practices, why not private schools? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:58 PM Flag
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What kind of unfair admissions practices? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 02:09 PM Flag
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Oh where shall I begin?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 04:12 PM Flag
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Start with a few. I'll wait. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 05:34 PM Flag
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Tha anti-trust issues actually come in to play when the schools broker with the PSD's. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:12 AM Flag
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exactly, there is nothing whatsoever suspect about the dates per se as a legal matter, and by and large they end up working to the families' favor because you get to hear from everywhere all at once without one school forcing you to decide before you've heard from others. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:43 PM Flag
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No one is saying that the coordination of the dates is a legal issue, per se. The fact that so many other topics are coordinated however creates a monopolistic culture that is problematic and potentially illegal [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 04:15 PM Flag
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So go public [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:23 AM Flag
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no thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:42 AM Flag
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colluding for birthday cut-off dates you mean? seems to me they have cut-off dates for developmental reasons? Also I think if ISAAGNY didn't exist to make some rules this whole private school application process—preschool on up— would be even crazier and more unfair than it is now! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:45 AM Flag
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ITDA. I think there would be an incentive for them to compete for better customers and maybe we wouldn't have the price fixing and other collusion that goes on. I am for a free market. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:48 AM Flag
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You're right. It's not an open and free market. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:06 PM Flag
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You all sound like a bunch of high school cheerleaders complaining that the process for voting for homecoming queen is unconstitutional. Only in your narrow, little world is this an important issue. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:09 PM Flag
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It's not a narrow little world. In case you haven't heard, NYC is a major global market [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:10 PM Flag
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Then quit your bitching. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:48 PM Flag
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You must be a precious clubby. That probably explains your fear of exposure [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:51 PM Flag
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Lady, don't worry about it. You aren't getting in anywhere. They will smell a PITA a mile away. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 02:04 PM Flag
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Just trying to intimidate someone who isn't buying into the system! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 04:13 PM Flag
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ISAAGNY probably can't be sued, but certainly the ISAAGNY schools could be sued. You would have to talk to a lawyer to see which admissions practices cross the line into illegality. Not sure about cutoff dates. The private school process is simply not an open and free market. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:45 PM Flag
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and good luck getting your kids accepted into school once the schools see how litigious you are! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 02:04 PM Flag
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Well, the schools count on sheep like you who feed the lousy system. Hardly anything to be proud of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 04:16 PM Flag
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Out of ALL the things to be concerned about in the application process, how does this even make the top 20 list?? I went to private in the mid-west in the 1970's - and guess what the cut-off was then?? Perhaps there is a REASON for it, and I don't see why it should be an issue. There has to be some cut-off date, and I think it would be harder if they were all different. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 02:07 PM Flag
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College wasn't created for 20-24 years old. There may be a reason for it, but it's not a good one, and the system shouldn't be a collusion as it quite obviously is to give people alternative options [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 04:17 PM Flag
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np - I honestly don't even know what your problem is with cutoff dates [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 05:41 PM Flag
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There are schools with cutoff dates after Sept. 1 (Manhattan Country, Saint Ann's are examples). It's up to the school to choose. It has nothing to do with ISAAGNY. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 06:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Desperately need a new OB in Manhattan. I would prefer a kind, friendly female, and my insurance is Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield. If you could let me know where they deliver that would be great too! Thanks for helping. 25 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:25 AM Flag
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First hand experiences would be great, thanks. I don't know anyone in the city to ask, and my current Dr is a nightmare. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:29 AM Flag
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Dr Teresa Cheon at NYU, she is great and is also very concerned with your mental well-being. She always asks how you are feeling aside from the normal baby related issues. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:39 AM Flag
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Dr. Cheon was my OB too, and I had a lovely experience with her. She has been my GYN since 2003 also. Wonderful doctor. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:49 AM Flag
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Dr Cheon doesn't take Blue Cross Blue Shield, but thanks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:24 AM Flag
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I just called the office and she will take the insurance, even though she is not listed on the providor site. I am very happy - thank you all! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:22 PM Flag
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lee morrone [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:40 AM Flag
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great - 4 women practice on 93rd and CPW - Westside OB/GYN - pretty sure they take your insurance. they deliver at Roosevelt. All doctors are great, staff is great, can't really say more [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:42 AM Flag
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Thanks for aall the helpful suggestions, it's much appreciated! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:55 AM Flag
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Dr. Cheon is mentioned a lot on this board. She must not sleep with all the patents. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:51 AM Flag
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LOVED Dr Jackie Worth. Great OB. She delivers in St Vincent's. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:28 AM Flag
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I used to see her -- she was at Lenox. She's at St. Vincent's now?!? All I remember is waiting for 2.5 hours every time I went to see her as a GYN patient (she was better with OB patients) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:50 AM Flag
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Oh major news for you then :) She does OB only now, and the waits are much better. Third tri patients are walk-in. She is at St. Vincent's now, as of October I believe. Although I preferred Lenox Hill :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:05 PM Flag
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i just went to heidi rosenberg on e 32 - i have blue cross and she takes it. She seemed nice. somebody on the boards recommended her [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:34 AM Flag
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I have not met her, and hear she is great, but that's actually the practice that I am trying to leave. I got sick of 1.5 hour wait times, them losing my samples, and never calling me with test results. I have waited 3 days to have my message returned about urgent test results. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:46 AM Flag
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that sucks. I wanted a gyno near my home. I don't need an ob. She did every test I requested so I was pleased. I always get early morning appointments so I don''t need to wait. I had a 9:15 and was in the office by 9:25 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:52 AM Flag
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They were totally fine for gyno, it's just when it gets more complicated and you have to do a lot of tests/sampling. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:55 AM Flag
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oh well if im not happy I 'll change. I have to go back once more for an u/s and then probably only see her once year for a pap smear. I wanted to get all the ovarian cancer tests because i'm a lunatic [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:58 AM Flag
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ITA, I loved her (dr. rosenberg) but the practice was awful. Bathrooms are filthy, you wait forever. It felt like a bad clinic. After first dc, I then switched to Dr. Cheon, sorry she does not take your insurance. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:58 AM Flag
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they changed the clinic name I think - wonder if someone left [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:58 AM Flag
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It's now called Cityscape and it's still awful. Dirty and doesn't give you any confidence. If you check the user reviews (which I wish I had) it's really distressing stuff for pregnant patients. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:01 PM Flag
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They used to be really great, its sad, very sad... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:15 PM Flag
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It is sad that the admin staff ruin the whole thing for everyone. When I finally got to see the nurse practioners, they were lovely. Having to delay my genetic testing due to the fact the took 2.5 weeks to get back to me just to tell my blood type was the final straw for me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:52 PM Flag
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i dont blame you, I would have flipped out. Dr hunt delivered my dd, she was great then she moved to CO so there was no reason for me to stay. They also had a wondeful nurse practitioner Dorothy Adler, she was wonderful, then she left too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:02 PM Flag
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did not like heidi rosenberg.she wasn't very warm or friendly. she didn't even say hi when she walked into her office. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 09.21.09, 10:55 AM Flag
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Dr. Allison Boester - E 72nd St. You may have to wait a while to get in but she takes BCBS (not sure if Empire) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:57 AM Flag
[ - ] Why does my 21 month old pick a day out of the blue to just not nap. it is torture because he is a hyper crazy person without a nap. It's like once (twice?) a month for some reason, he doesn't nap.... 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 03.12.09, 10:22 AM Flag
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can you trace it back to something he eats or does in the morning? makes for a loooong afternoon doesn't it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:25 AM Flag
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Sometimes I think it's when he doesn't eat alot at lunch? or isn't active enough in the morning? It's death! Pure death! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:26 AM Flag
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Trust me I know. I rely on that one nap for my sanity. My dd is crazy hyper active too. Never sits still for a second when awake!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:29 AM Flag
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active in the morning is our key. go go go. mine naps 1-3 or 4. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:29 AM Flag
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Ugh. I know. Unfortunately this started happening more and more as we approached 2nd bday. He gave up naps completely at 2.2. Nightmare. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:35 AM Flag
[ - ] How do dbs go from 2 naps to 1? DS is 10 1/2 mo and morning nap has been awful lately. Short. Should I try and keep him up longer? Will it just disappear or get later and later and merge into afternoon nap? TIA 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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My db just went to 1 nap, he's 12 months. We just started putting him to nap late (used to be 10AM, now noon). At first he was a little cranky, but he got used quickly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:11 AM Flag
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yes, I just went thru this, keep him up longer and give lunch early at 11:30am then nap at 12. My ds will sleep sometimes from 12-3. This transition usually begins around this age. good luck [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:12 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you both! Is 10 1/2 months too early? Also, if you are pushing morning nap back did it interfere with any scheduled activities you had planned? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:15 AM Flag
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10 1/2 months is a fine age, it all depends on the baby and yes it did interfere with daily acitivites so I just started scheduling things in the am like playdates, trips to the park etc. I knew that once noon came I would have time to myself to tidy up or relax. DC will get used to it rather quickly. Also on a day when he wakes at 5am I still do an am nap and a late afternoon nap. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:46 AM Flag
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Thanks! I just signed him up for a music class which may interfere with this transition. Guess I should look at changing it. Good to note about early wake ups. He is a 6 am wake up. I had hoped the time change would move him to 7 am but after a couple of mornings he started waking at 6ish. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:09 AM Flag
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I am sure they will let you change it, I loved music class at that age! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:57 PM Flag
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No such thing as too early or too late - they are ready when they are ready. I planned more things for afternoons (3-4PM) when I knew for sure he'd be awake. OR. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:04 PM Flag
[ - ] can anyone tell me real stories of garden house in sutton not info from brochure. TIA 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:04 AM Flag
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academics? administration? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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anything...i want to hear it all, the good bad and ugly [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:06 AM Flag
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the program is wonderful, the directors are not so bright and full of themselves and inflexible. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:15 AM Flag
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How are they "inflexible"? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:40 PM Flag
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Outdoor area not great (as you can see), but doesn't matter as the kids are only there a few hours. Good teachers, in general. The Senior teacher, Nancy, is *incredible*, though. We still go back to visit her several years later. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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what time of day si best to stop by, do you think to see her. DD mentioned her the other day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:16 AM Flag
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Call and leave a message for her; she'll call back to organize a visit. Sometimes dc reads to her current class. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Does DC's teacher--or anyone at the school for that matter--work with you if DC is going through a hard time, like parents are divorcing? Public or private? DD's Kindergarten teacher sad she was sorry to hear it but made it very clear she doesn't want to talk with me about how this is affecting DD's behavior in school. Passed me off to the guidance counselor who solely deals with exmissions to middle school. There is no psychologist or social worker. Are there public schools in this city where there is more of a connection between home and school? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 03.12.09, 10:03 AM Flag
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Talk to the principal then. You did the right thing by starting with the teacher and guidance counselor. Working up through the hierarchy you've come to the AP or principal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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private school and i've found the teachers to be very supportive. even over something as minor as moving. i told dc's teachers i was concerned she'd be anxious and they went out of their way to talk to her about it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:09 AM Flag
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our private school is the same. And when a child in K was dealing with her parents separating, the teacher read the children a book about it during story time and a few books about other kinds of families and they all had a big talk about how everyone's family is different, some have just a mommy, some have a mommy and a grandma, some have two daddies, some have 4 parents who live in 2 different houses etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:11 AM Flag
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I remember my TT private guidance counselor calling me into the office in 7th grade when my parents divorced. They had one convo with me, and basically ignored my Cs for the rest of the year. (I had been an A student.) They were "understanding" in the worst possible way, letting me use it as an excuse for laziness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:12 AM Flag
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at dd's school (anderson), a couple of years ago, her teacher was very involved in making sure our dd was okay following the sudden illness of our nanny, who had been with us since dd's birth. she looked after our dd, and sent us notes home from time to time to discuss how dd was handling it. she was terrific. fortunately, we have had no other "disruptions" since, but i have found all of dd's teachers to be responsive in general. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:39 AM Flag
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Anderson as well and the teachers have been very involved with helping dc work though a family crisis. They should be there is a huge correlation with academic sucess and emotional well being. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:06 PM Flag
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At private school - The school was great to my dd when we were divorcing. Everyone, including other families were incredibly supportive and non-judgmental. It made the awful process easier. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:40 AM Flag
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At our public school, some teachers are fabulous in working with you re a dc going through emotional times and some don't want to be or get involved. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:48 AM Flag
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OP I wish those teachers had big Xs on their forehead so I could request them. I guess I will figure out who they are. I SO wish we applied for private this year or could get out of dodge. My kid is in one of the better PSs in Brooklyn & I am so dissappointed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:53 PM Flag
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My dc teacher has very limited interaction with parents, well at least with us. Every communication is done through backpack. I know someone recently hired at a charter school told me that she will make calls to every family of her class to introduce herself since she is hired in mid-year. That was a big shocker to me that she will do that... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:15 PM Flag
[ - ] i am 4dpo. i need to have a mammo next week. had unprotected sex (didn't know about mammo). is there anything i can do to prevent a pregnancy this month without taking emergency contraception? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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anyone? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:03 AM Flag
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you would be fine [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:03 AM Flag
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op: what do you mean? that i could get the mammo even if i was pregnant and it would be ok? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:04 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:06 AM Flag
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op: am a little nervous because i need the mammo and am ttc. feeling a little crazy today! thanks for responding [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:10 AM Flag
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next week at your mammo the zygote wouldn't even have implanted it, likely. You would be FINE. If you're still worried, check with your OB. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:10 AM Flag
[ - ] i heard Brooklyn is not getting a citywide G & T -- is this just a rumor? 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 03.12.09, 09:50 AM Flag
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Just curious, would you send your child to a brand new school without any track record? So what if there is going to be a citywide G&T in Brooklyn, does it really make any difference to your district g&t? I don't understand the point of calling it "citywide" and people went ga-ga over it. Would parents at other boros send their dc to Brooklyn for school? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:56 AM Flag
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op our district G & T options are a joke. they are in the worst schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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would you send your K dc to A or N? the traveling time that other people are calling it "crazy"? So if this citywide g&t of Brooklyn is at the far end of Brooklyn from you, would you do it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:10 AM Flag
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np: If it is in Brooklyn, OP would have an option of DOE bus, which makes a huge difference. No such luck for NEST or Anderson. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:38 PM Flag
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not quite, there is a 5 miles rule, if you are out of that radius, there is a metrocard and good luck to you. NEST, however, has a private bus arrangement for Brooklyn and Queens students. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:42 PM Flag
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op Do you know how much the NEST bus costs? I ask as I priced one for my current school & I worked out to $250/child/month & none of the parents could afford. Did NEST help arrange? Our school said they weren't allowed to get involved or rec any company. I would think DOE might be able to get a better price for us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:46 PM Flag
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I heard, don't quote me, that it's about 3000.00 a school year. Not a N parent so can't confirm it. I think it is arranged by the PTA, got the info at the tour of NEST last year. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 01:01 PM Flag
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Nest parent here. you are correct. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:19 AM Flag
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Not OP, but of course it would be an option that people would consider, and if their zoned school is undesirable, you would be crazy not to evaluate the pros & cons of choosing a citywide, if you had the choice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
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Maybe not the first year, but if the school is good -- yeah. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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Here is a question for you, how long do you think it will take to make a "good" school? 1 year is hardly enough. It took Anderson 20 years to get it... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:16 AM Flag
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np: Anderson was a good school long before this year. And there are many, many good public schools in NYC, with active and involved parents, dedicated teachers, and these are schools that you have never heard of. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:20 AM Flag
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The question is not about other "good" schools, it is about what will it take to become a "good" school so people will jump at a chance given. The point is an over-night "citywide" g&t is not worth people going Hip-Hip-Hooray about it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:25 AM Flag
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np again: There's good and then there's GOOD. And there is everything in between. No one realistically expects that a brand new school would automatically be just as good across the board as a much more established school. But no school is perfect, even the existing citywides, and there are plenty of families who are not afraid to take some risks if it means the possibility of a better option than their zoned school. It's all about what your options are. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:28 AM Flag
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Come back in 10 years and we will pick up this discussion then. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:37 AM Flag
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Nah, you are right. Anyone with an opinion or view on this that deviates from your own is most definitely certifiably mad. Why didn't I see the light sooner?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:39 AM Flag
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"Maybe not..." poster: It didn't take NEST long. Now you can argue how good it is and you can cite plenty of posts that it is not warm/nurturing/friendly/populated by unicorns enough for some people. BUT damn, in just a few years there are people traveling some really long distances to get their kids to that school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:41 AM Flag
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have 99, will travel ... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:02 AM Flag
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That would be a great bumper sticker. Well played. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:21 AM Flag
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I agree that it won't take long to build a good rep. But the "citywide" labeling thing is the one that gets me. Look at TAG, they had a hard time filling the seats last year. Some schools are closing down their g&t because their gen-ed is good enough. Some g&t were shut down by doe because there weren't enough people interested. My argument is this name calling thing not necessary makes it a good program/school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:08 AM Flag
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Fair enough. I think the thing is that "Citywide" allows people who have shitty choices in their district G&Ts (and there are plenty of us) to opt for another choice. I love NEST but if my Brooklyn zone had a good G&T choice, I might very well have opted for that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:23 AM Flag
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Nest has only been around for 7 years and look how far they have come. With the right mix of kids, parents, teachers and administration its possible. Both administrations at Nest have had their share of controversy and say what you want, Nest is one of the most coveted schools in the city. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:21 AM Flag
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Hell, let's be honest. The NEST people are trying so hard to get their kids into is really only three or four years old. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:25 AM Flag
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thats right. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 07:26 AM Flag
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You know what's different about citywides? They are the only ones with accelerated curriculum. Of course, this should not be the sole criteria for choosing a school, but coupled with other situations, it may be a desirable option. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:27 AM Flag
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i wouldn't be surprised. it doesn't make sense in this economic climate and it's not like there's tons of time to do it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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I heard that in the DOE info session on G&T in November. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:14 AM Flag
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Hear what? That it wouldn't happen? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 12:49 PM Flag
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that it would happen [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:28 AM Flag
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Did you hear anything about the Queens one? And did they mention what grades they will start with (just K, or 1st as well)? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.13.09, 06:30 AM Flag
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I made the point about TAG starting to climb up because of a change in parent body and student demographics. Whether NEST or Anderson is better is not the point, the point is that people have those opinions. It is not just Anderson anymore for a choice. In 3 or 4 years it could be TAG in the mix of choices. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.14.09, 09:37 AM Flag
[ - ] any recs for 3 night getaway spot within 3 hr drive from ct? thanks 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:45 AM Flag
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It is not cheap, but I love Mohonk Mountain resort. If you go when school is in session, there will not be kids there. There are many kids around on weekends/summer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:48 AM Flag
[ - ] when dc goes to visit friends, do you check with parents to see if they are going to be there, or is that overkill? 27 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:41 AM Flag
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what age? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:42 AM Flag
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16 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:44 AM Flag
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omg major overkill. Dc is old enough to drive, for god's sake. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:44 AM Flag
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that's what I was thinking, but my sister always called when her dd was going somewhere [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:47 AM Flag
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I do not think I want my 16 yo DD going to some boys house alone with him if the parents aren't around. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:50 AM Flag
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this is a group: 2 girls, 2 boys, and as far as I know there are no romantic alliances. were involved in an afterschool thing for years when they were younger and have recently reconnected through Facebook and started hanging out together. In the past, they always did stuff out doors. This weekend they're meeting at someone's apt. to watch movies [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:55 AM Flag
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watch movies=have sex [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:46 AM Flag
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not in this case [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:49 AM Flag
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ita caught my 17 yo dd & her 18 yo BF "watching movies" in basement theater - embarassing for all but led to great sex discussion with dd [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.09, 11:19 AM Flag
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My mom did the same - always annoyed and embarassed the hell out of me, but it got me to tell the truth. I guess now I understand having a dd myself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:50 AM Flag
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as far as I know dd has never lied to us about what she was doing. I guess my inclination is that it's sort of a gift to show her we trust her [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:59 AM Flag
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Then I would say continue that way - you sound like a great mom and your dd is lucky!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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Hello-our kids are old enough to drive when they have our permission, support and practice and exhibit responsibility. That goes for unsupervised 'hangs' too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:15 AM Flag
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most of the people on the NYC board don't have to deal with the whole driving issue [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:25 AM Flag
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I would. You're the parent until the child turns 18 so if you want to know where they are, then they have to deal. You are the adult after all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:54 AM Flag
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it's not a question of knowing where she is though. I believe her when she says she's going to be at so-and-so's house with whosit. She's never given me any reason to distrust her. The question was would you disallow if an adult was not going to be present? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:58 AM Flag
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no, unless there is going to a party. Then I want parents home. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:09 AM Flag
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just to clarify. no, you would not disallow unless it was a party, then parents should be home...that's sort of how I feel [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:13 AM Flag
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i would check. i would consider case-by-case before deciding whether to disallow. i'm predisposed to disallow. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:00 AM Flag
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not overkill. I would do it until the kid finishes hs. When they are in college, overkill. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:35 AM Flag
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how old are your kids? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:35 AM Flag
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Depends. A lot can happen after school in the house without parents. That's why the kids go there after school. Same goes for night-time hang-outs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:39 AM Flag
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of course a lot can happen, and it will happen if kids this age want it to badly enough. they'll just lie about what they are really doing and do what they want anyway. it's very empowering for a kid to know his parent respects him and trusts him...even if it may be a blind trust [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:48 AM Flag
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There is an advantage to being older and bigger (especially for boys and especially for sports). Think long-term. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:44 AM Flag
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sorry - meant to this to go under the K question. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:44 AM Flag
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but somehow fitting here as well ;-) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:46 AM Flag
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only if she has already given you a reason to not trust her [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.30.09, 11:19 AM Flag
[ - ] i think i need a kick in the pants. our income is going down to lower middle class but i don't want to live the lower middle class lifestyle. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:38 AM Flag
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kick [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:40 AM Flag
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define "lower middle class" [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:43 AM Flag
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take home pay is being halved. i'm going to have to find a new job. but meanwhile i'm struggling between cutting expenses to save money or living the way we are living b/c we have the money now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:48 AM Flag
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I don't think anybody really wants to live the 'lower middle class life-style' including the people living it. whether it's temporary or has been their way of life for years. I am 'middle class' but I am happy because I would hate to spend my whole life wishing I had more, I'm going to be happy for what I have (a healthy loving family, food on the table, and roof over my head) and thankful instead of being sad for what I want. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:52 AM Flag
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i know. i'm just debating between taking dc out of her daycare while i'm out of work. i did get severance so we can afford it. but i think the responsible thing would be to keep her at home. why pay extra when we'll need it later one. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:04 AM Flag
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You make it sound like you have to embrace NASCAR and cozy up with a Coors. This is where the UB tendency to dictate class solely via income is shown to be ridiculous! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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sorry. didn't mean it to be a class issue at all. meant it to be an income issue and the things a higher income can buy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:11 AM Flag
[ - ] Slightly random, morbid question: For those of you without sisters, just sisters in law, what will you do with your mother's jewelry and things when the time comes? Do you expect to get everything? Share a few key pieces but keep the bulk? Or share equitably? 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:37 AM Flag
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why would you give a sister in law your late mother's jewlery? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:39 AM Flag
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Because brother should get mementos too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:40 AM Flag
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ok - share. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:42 AM Flag
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OP: Exactly. But I can't get my head wrapped around the idea of sharing equally. I helped my father design or pick the bulk of that jewelry, or went with my mom to get things reset. It's been something we've done and shared together. Neither my brother or sister-in-law have ever been a part of that and I'm feeling like I don't want to give such a large part of my mother or our shared experiences away. Yet I wonder if I'm just being selfish. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:43 AM Flag
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i posted below. my dad got some of his mom's jewelry and i have a piece and my sister has a piece. it's very nice for us to have that connection to her. and it enhances the heritage of my father as well. it's normal to feel an attachment but not healthy to feel a possessiveness over your mom's jewelry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:46 AM Flag
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np: what a great way to help your nephews and nieces appreciate their grandmother... "I remember going with Nanna to this little shop in the East Village where this man reset the stones for that ring your mom is wearing. He had a Persian cat and Nanna just thought it was the most delightful animal... After we left there we went to Katz's for pastrami. What? you have never been to Katz's. OK, next Sunday, family trip to Katz's..." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:01 AM Flag
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np dh: If I were in this situation, I would expect that my daughter and my wife, with the expectation that it will later go to the daughter, would get some of the jewelry. I would not expect, request, or care to get an even division. I think my wife would feel the same, except maybe she wouldn't expect or ask to get any at all, but would want daughter to. But that's just me and my wife. YMMV with other guys and their wives. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:08 AM Flag
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my dad has one sister and a lot of brothers. each sibling took the same number of pieces. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:40 AM Flag
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I'm an only child, so will probably take everything. I'll offer some to my aunt, and keep the rest. I have 1 ds by the way, so can't even pass along to any daughters. This is a sad, sad question. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:42 AM Flag
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It is sad. See above and you'll understand why it's preying on me. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:43 AM Flag
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In that case, I would take charge of it - take everything and offer a few pieces to brother/sil. Good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:46 AM Flag
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So what? You will get half of it. Do brother/SIL have children? I am sure they would love memories of their grandma. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:59 AM Flag
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why would a sister have more claim to mom's jewelry than a brother? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:44 AM Flag
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np Because a brother can't wear it. Obviously the mother's decision, but I would keep all jewelry if I were in this situation and it was left to me. Especially if my brother hadn't been married for long. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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Odds are it would not be all left to you, siblings normally share estate. And your brother may well have a daughter that would love to have a piece of grandma's jewelry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:00 AM Flag
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OR (and a dh) I only have brothers but I would fight you on that one. I remember going to Tiffany with my dad several Christmases. Especially the year we went to pick out my mom's onyx necklace and ring. That was the day I started shopping for engagement rings. I would love to see my wife in some of my mom's stuff. (In truth a lot of it I would not care about because I have different taste than my mom/dad. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:06 AM Flag
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np: ITA, I assume my brother and I would get same amount. My brother has a daughter so it would go to her eventually. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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I was amazed to get a diamon ring when dh's grandmother died. Didn't expect it (we had been married a short time). But I've always been very grateful. I loved his grandma and I wear the ring quite often. It reminds me of her. When dd is old enough, it will go to her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:57 AM Flag
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I'm surprised at these responses. When my dh's grandmother died, all the jewlery went to dh's mother, except one piece to each granddaughter (dh's uncle had 3 dds). Dh's uncle didn't get anything, and while dh's sister got some, I certainly didn't, nor did I expect to. When dh's mother dies, that jewlery will largely go to dh's sister, with probably one piece to my dd. And when my mother dies, I certainly don't expect to be sharing anything with my SIL (although she has my mother's engagement ring already) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:14 AM Flag
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My grandmother just distributed all of her jewelry a couple of years ago. She gave most of it to her 2 daughters and granddaughters but did give her daughter-in-laws some with the intention that they would eventually give it to their daughters. You could do the same. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:19 AM Flag
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i think it's incredibly selfish to say that it should all come to you. if you are so sentimentally attached to it, have it appraised and let your share of the estate consist of the jewelry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:19 AM Flag
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Has your mother recently passed or is she extremely ill? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:32 AM Flag
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Isn't this your mother's decision? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 11:22 AM Flag
[ - ] ugh my nail just broke low only on 1 side...what should i do? file it down? ouch 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:35 AM Flag
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file down and then do the rest short. makes typing strange for a few days but they grow back... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:43 AM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone have a sense of whether there were many private schools that over-enrolled their K classes for next year? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 03.12.09, 09:35 AM Flag
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since most schools went to their wls, that doesn't seem liklely [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:36 AM Flag
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how do you "most" schools went to their waitlists? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:37 AM Flag
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UB reports of getting of wls [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:40 AM Flag
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right. very reliable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:43 AM Flag
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and yet you are asking the same source to confirm your hypothesis [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 09:44 AM Flag
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I heard from a reliable source that several schools added classes this year because they are concerned about significant attrition from economic fallout so they intentionally overenrolled. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:00 AM Flag
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Most schools just don't add classes. It's about available space and many are already bursting at the seams. Overenrolling by a couple of kids is one thing. Adding entire classes is something entirely different. Doesn't sound like much of a source. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 03.12.09, 10:05 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone with a Freshdirect code? thx. 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 03.12.09, 09:34 AM Flag
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