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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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Yes! I would LOVE to have that kind of relationship with you.
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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This! Let me give you some butter and sugar while we're at it!
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05.21.13, 04:10 PM
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Nope. It's GMO, so I don't have any.
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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Is it all GMO? What do you use? TIA
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Olive oil or coconut oil.
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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in brownies, yuck. I love cocunt oil for many things, but unless iw ant cocunt tasting brownies, it just doesn't work. olive oil also has a weird taste that comes through in sweet dishes.
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05.21.13, 03:47 PM
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peanut oil or grape seed oil will work.
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05.21.13, 03:49 PM
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Why? What do want to use it for?
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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"Get out!!!!! Get out!!!!!! I don't *do* that!"
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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Only Extra Virgin Olive Oil in our house!
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Only if you give it back with 20% more as interest.
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05.21.13, 03:31 PM
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if you borrow it, are you returning a new bottle?
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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I definitely don't want to have that kind of relationship with you. Also, please don't chat with me in the elevator. It's very annoying to have a neighbor like you.
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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This. And certainly don't look bewildered when I tell you this.
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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So glad I don't live in your building. I love having my emergency neighbor, and she's glad to have me. Neither of us abuse it, maybe twice in 4 years.
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05.21.13, 03:48 PM
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Sorry, I'm not looking for this kind of relationship. No wait, I'm not sorry, and fuck you for talking to me in the elevator.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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Only if you're using it as anal lube.
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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Sure! Can you watch my kid while I make this phonecall?
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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My Restraining Order explicitly states NO CANOLA OIL. Besides, I squeeze all my own oil from the olives in my ass.
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05.21.13, 03:47 PM
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Sure, come on in while I get it. Are you cold? Would you prefer my sweater or my Dalton sweatshirt?
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05.21.13, 03:50 PM
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HELP! POLICE!!!!
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05.21.13, 03:54 PM
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Lolol
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05.21.13, 04:10 PM
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Diagnosis: Those of you still reeling at original post so much to continue it here lack basic boundaries. You identified with the crazy neighbor because it resonates with your needs and behavior. I bet you were told off similarly by someone you were trying to be buddies with who saw right through you and ran for the hills. Signed, OP of Canola post
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05.21.13, 04:06 PM
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Hang on there, OP. Where did the original thread say she was crazy? And why do you think she wanted to be your bestie? Maybe she just needed the oil?
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05.21.13, 04:09 PM
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np: remember? She looked at her strangely in the elevator and remembered her MIL's name. Those two things definitely = nut job.
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05.21.13, 04:53 PM
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I guess I stopped reading by that point.
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05.21.13, 04:53 PM
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Thanks, but we really don't want to have the kind of relationship with you where we make fun of you and you respond. It's creepy. I'm taking the stairs from now on.
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05.21.13, 04:07 PM
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O snap lmao
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05.21.13, 04:50 PM
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Lol...your nuttiness has legs here! Be proud!
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05.21.13, 04:09 PM
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I have way better taste in potential buddies. I avoid the nutters.
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05.21.13, 04:11 PM
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And with that, CANOLA MOM has become an Official UB Icon.
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05.21.13, 04:37 PM
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I can only aspire. :(
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05.21.13, 04:50 PM
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Oh, don't sell yourself short. There must be something "off" about you, no?
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05.21.13, 04:54 PM
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The "...,no?" MOM! You have returned to annoy me! Signed Canola Mom.
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05.21.13, 05:09 PM
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LOL, no that wasn't me.
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05.21.13, 05:05 PM
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. Awful.
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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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it was explained earlier: poor + don't like gov regulations.
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Oklahoma mom: I don't know who explained it like that, but that is not the issue. In the history of Oklahoma, kids in school buildings had never been killed even when tornadoes caused direct damage to their buildings. With tornadoes, the more concrete-lined, bigger buildings are by far the safest--and schools are built to high standards. These kids were categorically safer at the school than they would have been in their homes. Shelters in OK are often basements--well, 7 children at the elementary school died in the basement when the water pipes burst and they drowned. Many public schools open to the public as "shelters" during severe weather because the way schools are built makes them so much safer than almost any single-family home--but there is almost nothing that can stand up to the force of 200+ mile per hour winds. This is a freak tornado. The meterologists are saying it may go down as the worst that the world has ever seen. The kids and teachers were just at the wrong place at the wrong time for this truly horrific tornado. If it had been the type of tornado that we are far more used to Oklahoma, the school would have suffered some roof damage and maybe the gymnasium dome would have collapsed--but that would have been it as far as damage.
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05.21.13, 03:41 PM
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NP Thank you for the explanation. And this is just so terrible. Horrible. My thoughts are with everyone there.
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05.21.13, 03:51 PM
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So awful:(
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05.21.13, 03:56 PM
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this makes sense. no gov't force in the world can protect against every possible disaster. sometimes bad things happen. horrible.
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05.21.13, 04:01 PM
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So, so sorry. Can't imagine what it must have been like to experience that tornado roaring through. Thank you for explaining about the schools.
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05.21.13, 04:08 PM
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Another former OK mom (now NYC) - I will also chime in. Most devastating tornadoes are on the ground for a minute or two. This was was down for AN HOUR. Virtually nothing could withstand this. It is unprecedented.
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05.21.13, 03:51 PM
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What a nightmare.
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05.21.13, 04:01 PM
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so how do people who believe in God explain all this devastation?
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05.21.13, 04:04 PM
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Back in biblical times, God did much, much worse things than this. Doesn't seem to bother anyone much, though my child was terrified when I read him a few OT stories.
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05.21.13, 04:12 PM
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Unbelievable the enormity and devastation of this storm.
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05.21.13, 04:10 PM
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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I would love that, and would totally do it. Can DH get the kids up and out? What if you prep as much as you can (lunches, pick out clothes, bathe, etc.) at night?
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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op. Sorry, I should have said that DH also has to be out of the house by 6. DB is still pretty young, but I'm thinking ahead to how it would all work when she has to go to school.
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05.21.13, 03:24 PM
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Do you have someone else at home (spouse, older kid) who can get the kids to school? If so, job hours sound great! Or maybe a sister, relative who lives nearby?
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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op. We have family nearby, but we don't want to make our parents help out like this every day.
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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Its got to be either your DH then, or a nanny who starts early.
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Get a college student who will take your dc to school. Pay $20/day.
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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That sounds nice! Although tricky. So long as you can find someone really reliable, why not?
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05.21.13, 03:25 PM
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Sounds like a great plan. But you do need a backup plan ...
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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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I HATE getting up early and generally don't have to be in until 9:30 or later so I have become accustomed to really enjoying morning time with the kids. I love taking them to school (dh and I alternate dcs as they go to diff schools), and find that we have great talks during our walk/bus to school. My situation is different as due to the client-based nature of my work, its impossible for me to get home early with any consistency.
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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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I tried this and it did not work so well for me. If you can get it to work it could be great
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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op. Why didn't it work?
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Became tough to get out on time. DH was doing mornings and any time he had a meeting or had to travel I was in a bind.
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05.21.13, 03:44 PM
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^^^ I also realized I like having the mornings with dc's and feel like I am missing out if I do not see them in the morning
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05.21.13, 03:45 PM
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Housekeeper/nanny comes in at 6am, cleans, makes b'fast, takes kids to school, cleans somemore. Works 4 hours per day and then works for another family later in the day.
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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op. Has it been a good arrangement for you?
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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can you actually leave early? My past experience was that you get in early but don't get to leave at the same time = just more work.
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05.21.13, 03:44 PM
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op. Yes, done by 3 or 4.
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05.21.13, 03:40 PM
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So there will be no meetings you need to attend after 3? If you can leave early as planned, I'd like that. (if you are a morning person). What industry is it?
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05.21.13, 03:51 PM
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You will mostly still need childcare in the afternoon if you aren't leaving work until 3 or 4. Seems to complicated to have to hire help in both the morning and afternoon rather than just a longer chunk in the afternoon.
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05.21.13, 03:56 PM
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au pair. They live w/you and work whatever hours you need, up to 45 hours per week and they cost way less than babysitters or part-time nannies and are on call if your kids have to stay home from school when sick.
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05.21.13, 05:00 PM
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You can just tell them to take a break while dc's are in school and they just have to go by that schedule? ie. Work 6-8 and then 3-7.
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05.21.13, 05:07 PM
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I'd see if there is a FT nanny in your building or immediate area that wants to add 1-2 hours onto her schedule in the mornings. less flakey than a college kid.
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05.21.13, 05:44 PM
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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totes (for totally)
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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np I've never heard that.
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05.21.13, 03:31 PM
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You must not have tweens. Is this worse than "whatevs"?
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05.21.13, 05:59 PM
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totes
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05.21.13, 04:01 PM
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yes!
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05.21.13, 05:31 PM
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strategize, escalate (in the context of talking to your boss)
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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those words aren't fake.
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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Huh? These are both real words
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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Just because they're used doesn't make them real.
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05.21.13, 03:49 PM
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look in the dictionary. Even a very old dictionary. They are real.
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05.21.13, 03:58 PM
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I know :(
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05.21.13, 03:53 PM
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um - webster must be rolling around in his grave.
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05.21.13, 03:59 PM
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Sammies
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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yes, hate this! Sounds so unappetizing, too.
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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This
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05.21.13, 04:02 PM
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Lolz
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Irregardlessly.
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Ugh, I look pretty good on paper, but I didn't know this was a fake word.
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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what!!?!?
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05.21.13, 04:02 PM
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paraprofessional
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Uber, amazeballs, and the all time worst word ever "butthurt"
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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I like amazeballs... it has a youthful insouciance to it...
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05.21.13, 03:25 PM
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i second this
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05.21.13, 05:32 PM
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uber is a real word
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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Never heard butthurt or amazeballs. How are they used?
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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Use amazeballs like amazing exclamation. Butthurt... I can't even imagine.
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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ew, gross!
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05.21.13, 03:59 PM
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Butthurt means, like,m "Aw, when I told you can't borrow any canola oil, you didn't have to get all butthurt about it."
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05.21.13, 03:55 PM
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OR: It doesn't even make any sense - that's why it annoys me so much. It sounds like something my 4 year old would make up trying to find a way to use the word butt.
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05.21.13, 05:15 PM
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Amazeballs is awful
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05.21.13, 03:50 PM
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Swag
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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Striver
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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gifting. Hate.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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+1
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05.21.13, 05:12 PM
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YOLO
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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HATE this
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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What's YOLO?
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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I've never heard this. What is it supposed to mean?
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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You Only Live Once. I can't decide if it's a hipster thing or irresponsible young person with money thing.
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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The real douchebags wear YOLO necklaces
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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Wow-I'm so out of it.
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05.21.13, 03:40 PM
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It's ok, if I didn't have nephews, I wouldn't know about this either.
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05.21.13, 03:41 PM
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I'm a hipster and I've never heard this.
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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Hi hipster mom. Where do you live? Why do you call yourself a hipster?
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05.21.13, 03:50 PM
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np You Only Live Once, I'm thinking.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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You Only Live Once.
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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YOLO, so wear a seatbelt. :)
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05.21.13, 04:02 PM
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^^I love YOLO when used in a silly way, like I loved self-aware, ironic use of "no homo."
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05.21.13, 03:59 PM
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and Lonely Island is partially responsible for both of these loves.
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05.21.13, 04:00 PM
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true.
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05.21.13, 04:07 PM
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Drake
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05.21.13, 04:16 PM
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We need to have a Yolocaust
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05.21.13, 05:48 PM
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not really a fake word, but lady bits.
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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Nom nom
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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ugh. hate that! And yummy, yummers, yum
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05.21.13, 03:31 PM
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ITTTTTTA
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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me too!!!
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05.21.13, 04:00 PM
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Veggies, gluten-free
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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ughh veggies.
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05.21.13, 04:00 PM
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sunnies
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Deets
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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irregardless takes the cake
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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YES
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05.21.13, 03:52 PM
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"reals" as in "For Reals!"
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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You mean 4 realz
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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synergize
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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I love this word. And it's not fake
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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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it is totally fake.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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it is totally fake.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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I love this word. And it's not fake
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I hate this word too, even though it's real.
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this
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What even is that.
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Cray cray
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Adorbz for adorable
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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preventative annoys me - amazing how many people that actually do work that touches on the medical world who do not realize the word is preventive.
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05.21.13, 03:46 PM
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Seriously???
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05.21.13, 03:41 PM
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seriously that it bugs me or that people that are in a field that has a medical component use it?
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05.21.13, 04:07 PM
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seriously that it's not an acceptable form of preventive?
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Impact as a verb. Cannot stand.
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love this
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05.21.13, 03:52 PM
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Me, too. Great word.
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Also fututtzle
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Is that like knuffle bunnie's cousin?
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Anything Rachel Zoe says.
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Anything Rachael Ray says
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Eating "healthy"
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Eating "healthy"
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'in agreeance' - ugh the word is in agreeMENT!
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05.21.13, 04:15 PM
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What kind of backwater hick do you have to be to say this?
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IKR! I've actually heard this like three times in the past week. Non-NYers so go figure.
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misunderestimate. although ive actually found myself accidentally letting this slip out a couple times lol.
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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Yep, obesity is contagious. It really is. Just like style and fashion and attitudes.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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I gained 15 lbs after moving to the burbs. Same eating habits, but I drive everywhere now. It is most definitely a big problem.
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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I'm overweight but walk everywhere. I do 45 min on a treadmill walking at a 4.3 and going up to a 6 when I run...go figure...why am I still overweight? Ugh
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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Your eating habits
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Oh good. I was hoping we could talk about weight and get a sense of what urbanbaby people really think about fat. It's normally such a hidden and taboo topic here.
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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You, I like.
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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Obesity correlates to iq. In the hi iq parts of nyc there is less obesity than in low iq neighborhoods
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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This. How often do you see an obese person walking around the UES
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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all those high IQs on the UES
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ita the obese people are the nannies.
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Nanny basher alert!
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some are pretty awfully fat
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Proof?
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Look it up. The correlation is tight
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You know, Utah is supposed to be a pretty fit state too, but I still see chubs walking around Salt Lake City. You're right, I can't imagine what Texas looks like. Gross :(
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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I'm not Mormon - what is a chubs?
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lol. I'm not Mormon either, I just meant chubby people.
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Haha you should see Houston. Oh boy...it is really bad down there. But the food is so tasty...
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The St. Louis airport is the worst I have ever seen.
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NOLA mom presenting. Come down here and I'll show you fat. In fact, I will make you fat within a week.
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05.21.13, 03:55 PM
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the fat people are probably tourists. seriously, the heaviest mom in my dc's school is probably 5'4 and 150 lbs and she just had a baby
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05.21.13, 03:56 PM
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I noticed the same thing at school pickup these women are such tiny little people. I want to pat them on the head.
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No - that would never be a good thing. Your death/suicide would haunt your child for the rest of their life. For the sake of your child if not yourself, you need to get psych help.
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05.21.13, 03:09 PM
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You need to call the suicide helpline immediately. Of course your child would not be better off. If you kill yourself, you are condemning her to a life of misery and heartache.
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05.21.13, 03:15 PM
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Omg!!! Nothing makes up for the loss of a mother. Not a thing - not a money not a home not a friend not a thing. I grew up broke with a fantastic mother - we had tons of wealthy relatives - I would have chosen my mother in our apartment time and time again. Get help!!! Oh and get rid of your dh!!
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Call 1-800-273-8255, the national suicide hotline. They can help - right now you aren't thinking clearly.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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I don't think she said she was going to kill herself.
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She didn't say a lot of things - but I too think this is a call for help and appreciate this was posted
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Oh, nope. I think Op is suicidal or depressed by her other responses. Good idea to post. And those people are so nice and understanding. You can tell them anything and they won't bat an eye.
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Can you and your child go live with your relatives until you get back on your feet? Get rid of DH ASAP.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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I don't know, but I think she can.
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omg....please, please, I beg you to get some council today....do not wait....I will be thinking and praying for you.
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05.21.13, 03:14 PM
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What type of work do you do? How old is your child? No matter where she went, your child would probably always feel guilty about your death if you did this. Please get help or give us more info. so we can help you.
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05.21.13, 03:15 PM
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This, They always think it is their fault.
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your daughter NEEDS her mom...she NEEDS you and your family needs you...please, I beg you to get some help today...please.
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Thanks everyone. I just don't know if she will look back and wish she had the opportunity to live a better life without me. I just feel bad that she got stuck being born to me. She is such a good, happy child and deserves so much more.
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She will never look back and wish for a better life. You are her mom , no one in this world can replace you. Material things are NOTHING compared to the genuine love of a mom...she is your daughter and loves you no matter what...please, get someone to talk to....now.
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She's lucky to have you - don't forget that. She could be in a foster care situation (and she might be with a deadbeat dad and no mother -- as much as you think someone else would care for her, no one loves her like you do and will make sure that she's safe -- no one) and subject to horrible abuse and no attachment. You need to get treatment for your depression for her sake. She's worth it.
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I know she is worth the world, and that is why I think she deserves better than this. I wanted to make such a good life for her and it is a shambles. She doesn't know it yet, but she will. There are relatives that would love her and give her a better life than I can.
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IF SHE IS A HAPPY CHILD (AND YOU SAID SHE WAS), YOU ARE DOING FINE. DON'T RUIN IT BY DOING ANYTHING RASH!
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05.21.13, 03:25 PM
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She doesn't care about stuff, a certain address or vacations. If you are providing a safe, loving home - that's all she needs. If you are shacking up with pedos or in a meth house, send her to live with relatives. Otherwise, keep your little family of two together and use her as your motivation to get your life straight.
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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Why do you think she would have better opportunity without you? There is no way you could know this. Many "rich" kids/people are very unhappy. Money isn't everything. Please get help.
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She has YOU! what else can she ask for? Trust me, she IS thankful to have you.
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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Ok... no child ever feels like that. Ever. There are kids in foster homes dreaming about the day their "real" parents will walk through the door and get them and take them home. Please seek help, get on anti depressants.
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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NO! Read what you just wrote - she is a happy child! Your life circumstances are affecting you, and so you need help to work on that - but she has all she needs right now. Do not for a second think of taking that away from her.
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Nothing will EVER replace you. No amount of money, no other relatives. All your dd wants is YOU. You are perfect in her eyes. My df lost her father to suicide. She is 33 and never recovered, attempted suicide a few times herself. Please call someone. This too shall pass.
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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This. especially when it happens young, they are at huge future risk of future suicide because they are unconsciously trying to join the dead parent.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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Op, my father was sent by his single mother to live with his aunt and uncle. They took him too church, taught him the ten commandments, the difference between right and wrong, and gave him some stability. His mom was single after discovering a suitcase full of money under the bed. It turned out his father had knocked over a lot of banks in nearby towns. My dad turned ok.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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See, so you are saying it is better for the son to have moved to the aunt and uncle.
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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See, so you are saying it is better for the son to have moved to the aunt and uncle.
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Yes, but my dad moved back after his mom found a good job in California a year or so later. He was proud of how hard his mom worked.
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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1. If living with relatives is temporary and they are actually offering to help I don't think it will hurt your dd. 2. Would you possibly be better off divorcing and being single mom? What are all the reasons you feel the way that you do?
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NO! Your 4yo does not care about mess, beautiful home, etc. She needs you and nothing can replace that. My dad's parents sent him to live with a wealthy relative as a child because of financial issues and it had a profoundly negative affect (even though they sent him back home because he was so miserable). My mom is convinced it factored into his adulthood depression and their divorce. Please get help, it is the best thing you could do for your daughter.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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So, you dipshit? Your dad's experience doesn't mean jack or. It's not a universal law. Maybe it would be better especially if only temporary.
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I don't think OP meant it to be temporary.
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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Wow, not sure what the name calling is about, just giving op an example of how loss of a parent in a much less extreme way than what she is suggesting can devastate a child - or did you miss the part about op considering suicide??
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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You can make the op feel worse. Too much guilt. Maybe she can't handle parenting now and you're saying her other option is a bad choice, but it's not, because you don't know. If op needs to treat herself to a mental ward and send the kid with relatives that is so much better than having a breakdown and killing herself with the kid living with her.
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05.21.13, 03:48 PM
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You have reading comprehension issues.
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you are a bitch. op asked for others' experiences. everyone here is trying to help, you have no idea what will resonate with her.
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05.21.13, 03:39 PM
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Then I am well suited for this board. ;)
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05.21.13, 03:52 PM
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No, your daughter would not be better off without you. You both might be better off without dh. Please let us know what you do...could you stay with some people for a while?
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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My father lost his father at a young age and it haunted him for the rest of his life. He would have been much better with a father. MUCH better.
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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My dad abused me, terrorized me and locked me in closets. I would have been so much better off without him. MUCH better. But op doesn't sound crazy evil like my father.
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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I don't hurt or abuse my child in any way, but I feel that the deteriorating condition of our lives will affect her.
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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Nah. Kids are resilient. You mean you are divorcing and/or becoming poor? Listen I grew up in a rich home (that made people gasp when they saw it) with married parents and wasn't happy. I used to dream about living in a tight knit poor family or wherever the happiness was.
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05.21.13, 03:51 PM
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But she would have an aunt an uncle and grandparents who love her.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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I felt the same way when my husband left me for a girl at work. I had 2 kids in diapers and had left my career. I went to a therapist and told him I wanted to die. He told me that the patients he has that had a parent kill themselves are ALL beyond F'd up. You have no choice but to stick it out.
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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It seems the better solution is to dump your useless dh, have one less mouth to feed. Can you move in temporarily with your wealthier relatives until you get back on your feet and get counseling?
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Probably not. An extra adult would be burdensome, but an extra child not as much.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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well, sorry, but you can't give your child away. think about how much more she will love and respect you for overcoming your obstacles and being there for her. get rid of dh, find cheaper housing, get dc into free activities (boys & girls club, ymca) get free counseling.
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05.21.13, 03:50 PM
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Since when is the Y free?
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05.21.13, 03:54 PM
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I would not be giving her away. I would be giving her something better. I fear that she will have a mediocre life with me, and that it will affect her future, her self-esteem, everything.
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05.21.13, 03:54 PM
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the problem isn't you, its your husband. You should leave him, move to a more affordable 1 bedroom apt with your child and make a nice life for the two of you.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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What makes you say this?
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05.21.13, 03:45 PM
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you're working, you're trying. You said dh isn't even trying to contribute. How is the problem you and not him?????
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05.21.13, 03:58 PM
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Well, I'm failing too if I can't get him to work.
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no, you cant make him work! you can't change him!
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05.21.13, 04:12 PM
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he should file for custody since he is the SAHD and she should pay child support - what is the problem here?
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05.21.13, 04:57 PM
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no, I am the primary caregiver but also work.
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05.21.13, 05:07 PM
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My mother placed me with another family for a year when I was 5 and she was having a hard time. I have happy memories of the family. Is your husband depressed? This can be addressed.
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Your child needs you. Get help.
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Girlfriend, please. Get some perspective. People in NYC have bigger problems than to worry about your arm fat.
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I know. Part of me is insecure about it because I'm not used to looking like that but part of me doesn't really care because I'm 39 and a mom. My body could look worse.
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05.21.13, 03:14 PM
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This is me. Until i lose weight im keeping them covered. I see women with fat arms in tank tops and i wish i had the courage to do the same...but i cant. Do whatever you feel comfortable with.
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05.21.13, 03:08 PM
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I would definitely think gross. But since you're a complete stranger, it wouldn't take me more than 2 ms to make that judgment and I'll probably forget you in 10 ms. So go for it.
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05.21.13, 03:14 PM
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Gross, lose the weight please.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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Arm fat is gross. At 135, you're a chubba. Cut back on the food, baby.
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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OMG, THESE REPLIES ARE SICK. I hope you are being sarcastic. Unbelievable.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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OP: Whatever. People are immature. Looking for people who can give me an opinion like a friend could.
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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not or. I was being completely honest above.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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Thanks:).
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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People will not care.
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05.21.13, 04:41 PM
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I wouldn't care or think twice, but I don't really care about things that aren't my business.
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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I really would not care. Be comfortable. It's hot here in the summer.
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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I probably have worse arm fat than you. Who cares. Life os too short. If you died in a few years would you really want to go knowing you've spent the bulk of it worrying about arm fat and what others think?
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Probably best to get on a treadmill STAT!
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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You are hardly in "gross" territory. Honestly before having kids I noticed the changes in my friends' bodies after they had kids, but not in a negative way. Priorities change and that is ok!
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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Lady, you just pushed a human life out of that body. Stop being so hard on yourself. Wear the tank tops and start working out.
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05.21.13, 03:41 PM
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I'm not a big fan of tank tops. Can't you just get something with a little sleeve.
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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I would never think anything of it, and since you say you want a friend's opinion, I will also add: relax and enjoy the summer with your baby. the weight will come off in time, when you are better rested and have more time and energy to focus on that. don't let UB weight insanity put a dent in your happiness. they really are young for such a short time.
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05.21.13, 03:58 PM
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5'2" 135 doesn't sound that bad. but I guess it depends on how you carry it. I wouldn't think it was gross.. i'm sure there's many worse off than you
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05.21.13, 04:23 PM
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05.21.13, 03:10 PM
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Real Estate might be great for you!
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05.21.13, 03:14 PM
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are you in real estate? are you in sales? I have thought about it --- if you do this, what do you like about it?
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05.21.13, 03:24 PM
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np real estate law? it seems less antagonistic.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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yes, but malpractice insurance is high and basically it's number crunching and title work. You don't make money unless you do high volume, have lots of paralegals, etc.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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How about non-profit? Do you need the money?
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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Well, money would be nice but it's more important I like the work. I have thought of non-profit work, but I don't want to go into development. I don't want to ask people to donate to causes. I guess other areas would be good, esp. if they involved research or advocacy of some kind.
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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are you introvert or extravert?
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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more of an introvert, but so tired of doing solitary work!
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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what is your undergrad degree? do you have any hobbies or interests? are you hoping to make a lot of $ and how old are you?
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05.21.13, 03:24 PM
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Undergrad degree is in art history. I love art, interior design, history, politics to some degree. I like helping people make decisions (just tired of legal kind). I volunteer with historic preservation group occassionally. I have little time for outside interests, usually taking care of dcs or working. I'm not looking for lots of money, but would be nice if that happened! I am 45 yo.
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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Maybe I am too old to change. I don't feel 45, and I have received compliments that I look younger, like late 30s. Does that matter?
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05.21.13, 03:34 PM
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or: no one feels 45 when 45... To be completely honest if you want to make any money you probably need to stick with something where you actually have a skill set. IA you can switch to RE law or go in-house or something of that nature. You aren't going to make any money as a decorator, art anything, or adviser starting out at 45. Just my opinion.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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What do you do? How old are you?
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05.21.13, 04:07 PM
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I am 38 and work in technology but I did a dual major so I also have a degree in FA in addition to engineering. I feel the same way as you and would love to change but I don't think I will be able to earn much of a living:(
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05.21.13, 04:16 PM
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You know, when I was in law school there were several there who were older, 40s, 50s, even one in their 60s! I truly believe you can achieve whatever you want, at whatever age. Although I do admit age discrimination is out there and one cannot overlook that when deciding on their future.
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05.21.13, 04:23 PM
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I am not talking about age discrimination or whether it is feasible but whether it is realistic or cost effective. If you can afford to have a fun job I am sure it is completely feasible.
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05.21.13, 04:50 PM
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start some vanity business like my mompreneur friends who dabble in little startups to keep busy. you know, open a bakery or boutique or something.
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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what about trying to work for your local government?
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05.21.13, 03:44 PM
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Why not just do wills & estates and maybe real estate law? It's pretty cut and dry and rarely gets that antagonistic. You just show up for closings etc.
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05.21.13, 05:03 PM
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wills and estates - maybe, but lots of solitary work. tks
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05.21.13, 05:27 PM
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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I like it.
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05.21.13, 02:56 PM
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OLD
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05.21.13, 03:03 PM
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LOVE IT. My best friend's name (but she's 36)! Never met another one.
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05.21.13, 02:57 PM
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Op. i know, its rare to hear. Went to lower school and middle shool with a Meredith. Always loved the name.
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05.21.13, 03:05 PM
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or: and it's pretty, but not frilly at all. My friend goes by Meri (like "Merry") if you're looking for a nn. Love it - congrats!
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05.21.13, 03:00 PM
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My friend named one of her dds Meredith; I think it's pretty.
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05.21.13, 03:06 PM
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go for it, nice perfect name not overused.
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05.21.13, 03:08 PM
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It's a nice name ... reminds me of Mary or Maria.
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05.21.13, 03:03 PM
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Just reminds me of the office Meredith. No good.
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05.21.13, 03:09 PM
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love it.
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05.21.13, 03:04 PM
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MerDer - Grey's Anatomy.
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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Love the name. I'm from the South and it is fairly common here. There is a Meredith College (women's college) in Raleigh NC.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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I don't like the sound of it. It's not pretty sounding.
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05.21.13, 03:20 PM
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Love!
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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Nice name and a classic case of popular in the parent's generation (I must know of 2 dozen) but totally out of favor now.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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If there's no alimony, I'd be worried that support would be cut if former dh's lawyers got wind of me staying at home.
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05.21.13, 02:56 PM
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op: I have not discussed this with my ex dh and I wouldn't do it unless he agreed to it. I'm still debating if that's even a possibility we should consider though so I haven;t approached him yet.
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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It is not morally wrong. They are his kids too.
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05.21.13, 02:57 PM
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But she's no longer his wife. Child support assumes that both parents contribute towards the child's care - not that one decides not to work. If there is extra money after mom and dad contribute towards the child's expenses, put it in an account for her future.
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05.21.13, 03:06 PM
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Child support is for child care, if it goes to support the household while the mother cares for the child than what is the big deal? She could use it to pay the nanny and then get a job, but that kind of seems like an exercise in futility just for some weird principle.
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05.21.13, 03:04 PM
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Strongly disagree. Child support is for the benefit of the child - same reason why a parent can't argue it away - it's considered for the child, not the "family". If she's bringing home 67K, paying Nanny 40K, her half of the nanny is 20K. That means she is making 47K after to pay for herself and her child. She shouldn't become unemployed and live off her her child's assets. It's lazy and entitled and dishonest.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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She is using it so she can stay home and be with her kids. It's not like she went out and bought jewelry with the money.
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05.21.13, 03:09 PM
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She's a single mother - she can not support herself without working. Living off of her child's money is morally reprehensible.
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05.21.13, 03:16 PM
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Disagree. You can't care for the child without caring for the caretaker.
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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That might be the most self-serving rationalization that I've ever heard.
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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ita it seems that are plenty of morally bankrupt people on this board!
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Agreed. I don't know why I find that so shocking but I do.
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Depends on the age of the child. If child is in school all day, get a job. if preschool, or short days, I have no problem with this.
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05.21.13, 03:42 PM
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Bigger issue is that that support is going to run out and you will have no job and a spotty employment record.
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05.21.13, 02:58 PM
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op: I am a nurse with many years of experience. It would be quite easy to find a position in my area. That is not really my concern. I'm afraid I will set a bad example for my dc by not working.
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05.21.13, 03:05 PM
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You kind of will, unfortunately. it makes sense to moms because there are SAHMs and kids do need you, but all kids I knew who grew up in this situation have issues related to it.
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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Can you find part time work? I do not think you living off your childrens child support is a good idea
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05.21.13, 03:48 PM
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I would do it, definitely until all dcs were in school, or work part time. I know a nurse with 2dcs and she works one day a week. Nurses seem to have a lot of leverage in work schedules, esp. if good and experienced.
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05.21.13, 03:03 PM
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No, I would not feel it morally wrong but if I made 67K I would not pay nanny 40K
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05.21.13, 03:03 PM
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She doesn't. Her ex pays half with his support.
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05.21.13, 03:16 PM
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If the amount of the support is set she would get the same $ whether she paid this nanny 40 or 25
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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True and then she would have more money left over.
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05.21.13, 04:01 PM
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Live your life girl!
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05.21.13, 03:03 PM
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can you find a cheaper nanny/sitter?
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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op: She has been with us since my first dc was born and dc are so used to her. It'd be hard to replace her, unless I take over full time.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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how old are your dcs?>
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05.21.13, 03:16 PM
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11, 7 and 3
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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oh well, it's time for a change. Children adapt very well. They'll be fine with cheaper nanny. I think not working is not an option for you as a single mom.
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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Are you jealous because it's not an option for you?
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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np: who would be jealous of a single mom who is trying to be a SAHM with three kids because she can't afford a nanny?
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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I don't think anyone is jealous of an adult woman willingly sucking her children's resources because she's too lazy to provide for herself. Ick.
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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And this differs from the SAHM how?
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05.21.13, 03:44 PM
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Because a SAHP is married and the couple jointly decides whether and how each person works. In this situation, the court orders support for the child's benefit and assumes that both parents will contribute towards the support of the child. For one person to unilaterally decide to use the children's money so that she doesn't need to work -- that's just stealing from the children.
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05.21.13, 03:54 PM
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This is why ex-wives have such a bad rap. The marriage ended as did the gravy train. Your Ex doesn't have to provide for you.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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Oh, shut up.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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Truth hurts. Carry your own bags.
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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You don't know what it was like when they were married. for all you know he was an abusive ass how made her support him, like my DH is.
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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So what - she made the choice to get and stay married and then divorce. A bad marriage doesn't entitle a woman (or man) to stay home forever. If the tables were turned, people would be screaming.
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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If a spouse can support an ex-spouse to be the primary caretaker of a kid who is living parent without the other parent, I don't see why that is any different or worse that a married parent doing the same.
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05.21.13, 03:40 PM
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Married parents have an obligation to work jointly for the family. Single parents have an obligation to each contribute to the children, but to each provide for him and herself.
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05.21.13, 03:57 PM
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If a spouse can support an ex-spouse to be the primary caretaker of a kid who is living parent without the other parent, I don't see why that is any different or worse that a married parent doing the same.
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05.21.13, 03:40 PM
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Stupid comment, she is not getting alimony, only child support, which will end, when kids are of age, so she has to still figure out how to support herself and is solely responsible for her future. No gravy train I see here, it's not like she won money and can roll in dough for the rest of her life without lifting a finger.
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05.21.13, 04:09 PM
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Isn't that exactly what she's contemplating doing? An able bodied woman capable of working is going to sit on her duff because she can afford to do so with the child support?
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05.21.13, 04:24 PM
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Sounds like a very nice life you envision
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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So it's ok for a SAHM but not for a divorced mom with support? Aren't the best interests of this child still paramount?
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05.21.13, 03:41 PM
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CHILD support. The money is for the CHILD - not for the mom. In this case, the mother can also work and take home 47K of her own money to contribute the the house, the college accounts, the kids' activities, vacations, etc. and of course her own keep. If there is money left over from the CHILD support, it should go into an account for the CHILD's future down payment or medical school or something. It's not money for the mother.
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05.21.13, 03:56 PM
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As a nurse, can you change your schedule so that you work mostly when exdh has the kids and just get a college sitter for the little bit that you need one? If exdh has the kids part of the time, two of the kids are in school f/t, one is in school p/t and you work 3 12 hour shifts, you shouldn't need too much child care.
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05.21.13, 03:48 PM
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Is your ex basically covering the nanny's salary? How much is it cutting into your income? If you could do it without any additional cost to your ex, I don't see an issue with it. Shouldn't your ex prefer that his kids' mother care for them rather than a nanny?
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05.21.13, 03:48 PM
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so you must be living off alimony anyway because your take home pay is likely paying for the nanny. this is a no-brainer. I would stay home with my kids and consider part time work when they are in school full time.
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05.21.13, 03:58 PM
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not to mention, dh would have childcare expenses. they would just be a salary for you to take care of the children (who are also his). It is a job- obviously, the nanny is doing it!
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05.21.13, 03:59 PM
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+1. This is my thinking too. If you work, DH still has to pay for daycare. Does it matter that the pay goes to the nanny or to the mother? I'd argue, it's better if it goes to the mother. The only problem is you supporting yourself, DH allows you to pay for the nanny, so that you can keep your job and support yourself once the kids are grown up. so, another way to look at it, and decision is not really moral at all, it's how you plan for your future.
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05.21.13, 04:06 PM
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You are not very smart.
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05.21.13, 04:02 PM
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I don't think it's morally wrong, kids need to be taken care of, does it matter if DH pays for a nanny to do this or for his ex-wife to stay home, the money will be spent. And it's better for your kids to be with their mother and you have 3 of them, no small task. I would not feel guilty for a second. The only thing I would worry about is supporting yourself once your kids are 18 and no longer get child support, since you don't have alimony. You need to keep up with your skills and make sure you can get employed again, since nobody will support you until social security kicks in. Maybe if kids are older, you can jump in part time, just to make sure you will be able to provide for yourself.
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05.21.13, 04:04 PM
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DH is not paying for a nanny - he's paying for a portion of the kids' food, shelter, yes - child care, hopefully college savings, activities. He should not be paying so much that he can support an entirely separate family of 4 while the other responsible adult does nothing to provide for her children. Have you women no pride?
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05.21.13, 04:25 PM
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I would get an au pair. Why are you spending 40K a year for child care? Au pairs get a $200/week stipend plus room and board and you just pay au pair agency an annual fee (around $8,000). You can get a well-educated young woman with childcare experience who can also teach your child a foreign language. They work whatever hours you want which is great for a single parent if you need to work late one night or want to go on a date or something.
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05.21.13, 02:58 PM
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Are you looking for someone to say that your friends are shallow and trying to impress others while you focus on caring for yourself and your family (thus are a superior being?)
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05.21.13, 03:07 PM
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np I think that's what's she's doing.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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I am just wondering what people's priorities say about them.... Just struck me
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05.21.13, 03:10 PM
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A richer interior life? But I think that you will find even painting the door, maybe flanking it with two planters, would help a lot!
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05.21.13, 03:16 PM
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Why don't you just hire a landscaper, get some flowers in there, maybe some patio furniture. Something simple and nice. That's a nice problem to have.
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05.21.13, 03:04 PM
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it shows you are not really that "together"
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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And the neighbors are probably driving by wondering why your house looks dumpy.
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05.21.13, 03:32 PM
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05.21.13, 03:27 PM
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I hired a landscaper just saying I put my money on the inside of home first -
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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it shows you are basically selfish and inconsiderate
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05.21.13, 03:44 PM
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ITA and not community oriented, just care about your own needs/family.
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05.21.13, 03:45 PM
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I think both are bit weird. We worked on inside and outside at the same time. Bought 18 months ago. Did a lot of inside work before we moved in and fully furnished bedrooms/kitchen. Room by room we are replacing our old furnature with new for the common rooms. In the meantime, we did the lawns, then did the retaining walls, then painted the outside (all while we were living there). Still working on adding to the landscaping.
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05.21.13, 03:53 PM
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I would think they are outdoor people and appreciate nature. I would think that I am like this
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05.21.13, 04:00 PM
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Your friends are not hoarders
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05.21.13, 03:55 PM
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I don't think it means anything - doing the whole thing at once can be overwhelming. I've done projects as they've struck me, sometimes because they were necessary (exterior paint was peeling), sometimes because the status quo was too annoying to live with (hideous wallpaper). our landscaping was good enough to let slide while I worked on some truly ugly stuff inside, now that the worst is taken care of indoors I've moved out. Eventually I'll get bored or the weather will turn and will tackle more projects inside.
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05.21.13, 04:08 PM
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05.21.13, 02:57 PM
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In a wrestling match?
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05.21.13, 02:53 PM
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Did we decide if Quinn is a good baby name?
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05.21.13, 02:53 PM
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Haha
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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for a girl. Pearson for a boy.
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05.21.13, 04:54 PM
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I like Pearson (the education company)
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05.21.13, 03:05 PM
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Employee?
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05.21.13, 03:21 PM
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Really? Do you work for them? Doesn't the g&t fuckup bother you?
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05.21.13, 03:24 PM
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Good for her. I think Pearson is too cozy-cozy with all these education departments.
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05.21.13, 03:31 PM
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Without standardized tests, how can a kid be evaluted objectively? Based on the recommendation letter, like what she proposed? That's too subjective. How can she propose something like this? I bet she was a terrible student.
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05.21.13, 03:38 PM
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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What's your verdict? Is he just disorganized or are the teachers truly horrible? Assess the true nature of the problem and then get back to us.
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05.21.13, 02:59 PM
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He says he wants to study finance, and is very business oriented. Definitely marches to his own beat. He likes making and growing his money, so is always coming up with different business ventures. right now, his thing is hosting parties. He made over 1k in his first event. But when it comes to school, it's like pulling teeth. I'm tired of the constant meetings, and I wish I could just let him fail and send him to the local public school.
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05.21.13, 02:53 PM
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why can't you? he sounds like a smart self-starter. perhaps he would be better off!
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05.21.13, 04:09 PM
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because there's no backup. We live in the south bx, low income. He'd be the first in my immediate family to have a real chance at college. All our distant family live overseas and are all very successful. We immigrated only to struggle, deal with violent deaths, and school dropouts to work.
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05.21.13, 05:44 PM
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Look at the tumblr founder her is a high school drop out (Bronx Science) and he is doing well. Steer him toward what he is good at.
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05.21.13, 03:00 PM
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Make sure he doesn't have mild ADD or depression. I wish someone would give me that advise years ago...
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05.21.13, 02:55 PM
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THIS. It's the first thing I thought of.
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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depression/ trauma- just make sure nothing bad has happened to him that he is hiding. My nephew was like this-- did super well through middle school. Then all of a sudden began getting C's in high school, despite being very intelligent. They found out years later that his depression started at that time (grandfather with severe mental illness so parents should have been more on top of it). He's still depressed now, but angry that his parents did not get him help earlier (for depression and ADD). Not saying at all that is what is going on with your child- but parents do need to keep their antennas up when grades drop.
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05.21.13, 03:33 PM
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Oh yes, prescription drugs are always the answer for our children!
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05.21.13, 03:43 PM
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Private tutor
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05.21.13, 03:05 PM
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I'd have him have a full educational Neuropsych evaluation.
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05.21.13, 03:14 PM
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this and explain that he will lose his scholarship if he doesn't shape up. that IS making his own money.
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05.21.13, 03:52 PM
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he did have one, paid by the school. Nothing really came of it. Besides more time during tests which he said he did not need. It stated some slight weaknesses, but overall he seemed fine. they wanted him to keep a highly detailed planner, but that fell thru very quickly. I just don't know what else to do. I go to these meetings and I tell them, he gets punished, I tell him to do his hw, to study for tests etc. what else am i supposed to do? He'll be 15 in a couple of weeks, I have 2 other kids, single mom, and a full time job. He is amazing when he is interested in the topic, or if he has opportunity to show off/lead. Otherwise, while he knows he must go to college to have a better life, he thinks school is kind of worthless. Seeing as how he sees other "lazy boys" have tutors do everything, and go off to college and have money. sigh.
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05.21.13, 03:56 PM
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Any signs of mild Asperger's? Maybe do some reading, ask school teacher and/or psychologist.
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05.21.13, 03:28 PM
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he was diagnosed adhd inattentive when he was in 5th grade. Took meds for 2 yrs, then said he no longer needed it. He seems ok, I keep wondering if meds again would help him. I keep thinking he just wants to his own thing. It's almost always the teachers fault in his eyes. He is just not motivated. I feel like he never feels the full extent of his mistakes because I'm always trying to help him out of his mess for fear of him ending up like I did. (messed up my first 2 yrs of hs and never fully recovered)
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05.21.13, 03:49 PM
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I know it's hard but it sounds like he may need to fail before he will learn to stand on his own two feet. better now than later.
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05.21.13, 04:04 PM
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ANy drugs- marijuana, etc?
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05.21.13, 04:07 PM
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nothing. He steers clear of all this to the point of unfriending anyone that does, especially females.
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05.21.13, 04:47 PM
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05.21.13, 02:48 PM
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It is...
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05.21.13, 02:50 PM
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Love Triscuits! Give water crackers as another option
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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Whoever says it is not tacky to serve Triscuits is correct
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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It's only tacky if you have the newfangled flavors of Triscuits. Regular are totally apropos. (Old school WASP, FWIW.)
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05.21.13, 02:46 PM
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If you are a WASP living in NJ with ducks or pheasants printed on your pants, it is fine.
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05.21.13, 02:52 PM
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Triscuits and cheese whiz are typical WASP hors d'oeuvres.
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05.21.13, 03:16 PM
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Triscuits are delish! Not tacky.
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05.21.13, 02:46 PM
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Nah, I love triscuits
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05.21.13, 02:52 PM
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My mil eats Triscuits so it's safe to say they're tacky.
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05.21.13, 02:46 PM
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Issues at all?
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05.21.13, 02:50 PM
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lol. She serves that onion soup mix dip with them and Cheetos. Those things are tacky, imo.
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05.21.13, 02:55 PM
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not tacky at all!
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05.21.13, 02:46 PM
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I wouldn't, but I am a food person. I would feel embarrassed.
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05.21.13, 02:46 PM
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OP - thanks all, I knew I was right (I was the one that said it's not tacky - original flavor, of course, none of that black bean / sweet potato stuff). And may we always have such discord in our home. LOL.
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05.21.13, 02:53 PM
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how the heck are Triscuits "tacky". The olive oil ones are delish.
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05.21.13, 02:49 PM
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OP - ITA with you! DH thinks they are tacky, he wanted to buy a $7 box of crackers. I think not.
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05.21.13, 02:56 PM
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I serve water crackers but they are completely flavorless. I'd eat Triscuits with nothing on them. I often DO eat them nekkid.
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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When we visit with our wealthiest friends they serve saltines and wrapped singles of processed cheese (but really good scotch!)
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05.21.13, 02:52 PM
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OP - sounds like me, we splurge on the alcohol. Not wealthy though!
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05.21.13, 03:00 PM
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Are they being ironic?
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05.21.13, 03:02 PM
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If they were hipsters, I'd say yes - but this is a couple with old money - they seem to have a few things like this that I don't fully understand
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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np People like that typically do not care about food. They eat grilled hot dogs and hamburgers, multifarious salads with a mayonaise base (chicken, potato, cole slaw) and swill it down with liter bottles of Pinot Grigio.
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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I think that's us, but I'd still go with water crackers and the cheese plate from Costco. Not Kraft singles
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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Triscuits are LB.
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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What's that?
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05.21.13, 03:01 PM
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Low brow.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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So wrong. They are old school wasp, wasp, wasp.
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05.21.13, 03:25 PM
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this.
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05.21.13, 03:36 PM
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If you are a wasp and your guests are wasps then it is totally normal but otherwise no.
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05.21.13, 02:59 PM
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Your DH is trying too hard.
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05.21.13, 03:08 PM
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OP - lol, no shit. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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Its not tacky but triscuits are disgusting
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05.21.13, 03:10 PM
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WRONG.
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05.21.13, 03:12 PM
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So bizarre.
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05.21.13, 04:17 PM
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Just slap the cheese on a tray and arrange the Triscuits and other crackers around it, and serve plenty of alcohol. You're over-thinking this.
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05.21.13, 03:22 PM
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Why would this type of cracker be any tackler than another type?
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05.21.13, 03:31 PM
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do they come with a Coach logo?
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05.21.13, 04:05 PM
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Triscuits are fine for every day but for dinner parties we serve good crackers from WF, w/ this cranberry pepper jelly and brie on top. SO GOOD.
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05.21.13, 03:37 PM
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Not if you are WASPs.
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05.21.13, 03:59 PM
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And invisible on here....
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05.21.13, 02:53 PM
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Depression? See your dr.
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05.21.13, 03:02 PM
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What would make you feel more visible? I am sure you are important to many people, you just don't realize it.
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05.21.13, 02:57 PM
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I am barely invited anywhere - I just feel like I am rotting away
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05.21.13, 02:59 PM
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Maybe if you weren't so damn depressing.
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05.21.13, 03:09 PM
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Asshole
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05.21.13, 03:08 PM
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But seriously - read your post. You don't sound like you invite happiness and light and people in. Own your part in all of this and stop being a victim. Get involved. Invite people to your house. Have a GNO. Volunteer. Don't sit here and whine that no one can see you.
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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I do - I always host invite etc - it is rarely reciprocated - I'm tired - feel like a social outcast...
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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Volunteer. Find your own passion, don't wait around for others. As the young-uns say: YOLO.
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05.21.13, 03:26 PM
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What is a GNO?
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05.21.13, 03:35 PM
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girls night out.
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05.21.13, 04:02 PM
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Where do you want to be invited? Maybe you can invite others over? All's you really need is one or two friends.
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05.21.13, 03:13 PM
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Oh, get over yoursef. Get a drivers license and buy a car.
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05.21.13, 03:07 PM
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? What
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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I also feel this way. I invite people to places and they don't even respond.
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05.21.13, 03:17 PM
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What is it?? What do you think? Not only are we not invited, sometimes we are outright excluded, and I'm not paranoid, it's purposeful. Miserable
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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Are you frumpy or ugly? People gravitate to those who are attractive, maybe take greater care in your appearance, and I don't just mean the outside only, change attitude and also be more outgoing in addition to being more put together on the outside.
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05.21.13, 04:13 PM
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Funny bc I am very put together - I can't figure out why I suck
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05.21.13, 02:43 PM
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Matt who? If a relative (or anyone else) I hope they are safe :)
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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matt lauer, on the today show.
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05.21.13, 02:48 PM
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So sad :(
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05.21.13, 02:49 PM
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Hate that douche...wish they'd can him.
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Me too.
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05.21.13, 04:00 PM
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Why do you say this?
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05.21.13, 02:56 PM
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because he was pissed that he was stuck in texas when he could have been in boston
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05.21.13, 03:00 PM
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Did he really say that? What a penis.
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05.21.13, 03:11 PM
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no, but it was implied
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05.21.13, 03:29 PM
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Oklahoma mom: Are you implying that our tragedy is somehow less important because of where we live? Super classy...
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05.21.13, 03:23 PM
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no not at all.
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no not at all.
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np You sound a bit paranoid out there.
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Not paranoid...just trying to figure out the intent behind the snarky OP.
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I think OP is snarking about Matt Lauer. He likes to be where the action (read: tragedy) is so he's probably thrilled to be at the scene of one now and not having to watch one of his colleagues steal his thunder.
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I learned this because dd brought home a petition to free kaitlyn hunt, the girl on trial for lesbianism in florids
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05.21.13, 02:43 PM
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Florida
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Makes sense because if she is found guilty it will set a precedent for all the 18 year old senior boys banging the 15 year old girls from the freshman class
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05.21.13, 02:48 PM
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Sign me up!
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I disagree. IMO the TT SS are very into people fitting a certain mold and that mold is not being a lesbian. I actually think it's tougher to be a lesbian in a SS than in co-ed.
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Brearly is very pro lesbian. My homophobic, neaderthal dh was horrified when he saw an "Out" magazine prominently displayed in the library. Me, I thought it was cool.
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05.21.13, 02:47 PM
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You'd be more believable if you actually knew how to spell the name of the school
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That sounds horrifying.
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05.21.13, 02:38 PM
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Tell us more!! What crackers do you like? This is fascinating.
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05.21.13, 02:38 PM
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And salad dressing.
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05.21.13, 02:40 PM
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no crackers. just naked tuna and salt. reminds me of eating potato chips.
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How can canned fish be like potato chips?
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np What the hell kind of potato chips are you eating that salted canned tuna would remind you of them?!?
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05.21.13, 02:48 PM
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Maybe she meant potato chips after you chew them
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05.21.13, 02:52 PM
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OP ... yes!
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05.21.13, 03:18 PM
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lol
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05.21.13, 02:48 PM
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ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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05.21.13, 02:44 PM
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That's nasty and unhealthy.
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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Sounds good to me
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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Rosie?
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05.21.13, 02:52 PM
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The smell of canned tuna is pretty much one of the most offensive smells on earth.
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05.21.13, 02:54 PM
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Odd and the salt is still unhealthy.
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05.21.13, 02:51 PM
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Careful of all the mercury you are eating!
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05.21.13, 03:02 PM
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OP ... thanks!
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05.21.13, 03:19 PM
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Why do you think it's ok to OD on salt if its own tuna?
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05.21.13, 03:30 PM
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