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[ - ] BTDT moms. How many outfits do I need to get DD for preschool (she starts this fall)? My mom says at least seven. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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That sounds about right. Get things that mix and match. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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Well, if you' [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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Oop! If you're me, you need enough to get you through two full weeks, as we only do laundry every two weeks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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I hate Brandi. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:57 AM Flag
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stupid q: why is this wardrobe diff from everyday wear? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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NP: It's not really -- but I have to say, I'm excited to go "school clothes" shopping for dd!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:57 AM Flag
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:) OK, now that I understand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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School supply and fall clothes shopping were the best! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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Oh yes it is. Buy cheap stuff for preschool that you don't mind getting stained. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:38 PM Flag
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Seven!?!? Is she going to preschool or a fashion show? What, may I ask, is your budget for this shopping trip? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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I gave my dc "uniforms". 5 dressy/casual outfits they wore once a week. Schedule on closet door. No fuss in the morning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
[ - ] I'm 11 pp and I hear/read all these stories of losing all my preg weight. I've got a good 4-5 lbs to go to get back and have such a hard time! Guess 2 days / week at the gym just won't cut it anymore 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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Do you mean 4 or 5 lbs or 45 lbs. If it's the forner, you're doing just fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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its the former / thanks but my clothes don't fit right - my body is diffenately different and when I see pictures ....ugh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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np: 10 mos pp here, 8 lbs to go, and I too cannot fit into any of my pre-preg clothes. I know how you feel :( [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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that'd be definitely (not diffenately) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:01 PM Flag
[ - ] One of our nannies is a vegetarian and the other isn't. Any recipes I can make for their lunch that would satisfy both? (The vegetarian nanny -- no meat, poultry, or fish but does eat dairy products) 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:53 AM Flag
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you have two nannies? how many kids, just curious? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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Two kids, two nannies. Why do you ask? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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b/c I have two kids, one nanny - why do you have two? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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Hi, I have two kids and no nanny! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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That's a joke, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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this is a joke, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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I think it must be. I can't see making lunch for my nanny. She has access to the fridge. I can't imagine anyone with 2 nannys has enought time to make meals for them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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If she has 2 nannies, she def has enough time to make them lunch! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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Sorry so boring, what about egg salad sandwich? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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does the OP actually cook for her nannies? WTF? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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Hard to imagine that someone with two nannies cooks lunch for them!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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Let your personal chef worry about it. You're late for your personal shopper at Bergdorf. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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I appreciate this attempt to get us off the terrorist threats. How do you feel about yr Bugaboo? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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OP: I'm only here for recipe ideas. Don't need to justify my arrangements to you people. But what's wrong with making sure the people who work in my home are happy and well-provided for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:01 PM Flag
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if you don't want to be flamed, search epicurious. If you post here, you don't get to bitch about having your "arrangements" critiqued [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:03 PM Flag
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Hey, why judge...if she has 2 nannies that's her biz [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 03:12 PM Flag
[ - ] I need a job. What cottage business can I start, run and then sell for 10 billion to Disney 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:53 AM Flag
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Write a book about an orphaned girl who finds out she's a countess who has to get married and dances in her pjs or falls in a fountain. Disney will buy the rights. Not for 10 billion though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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Alright. How about I make them all chipmunks instead of humans? Cute? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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Or dolphins. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:03 PM Flag
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start a female group version of the wiggles. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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I hear knitting is all the rage these days. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
[ - ] Any St Ann's parents out there? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 08.02.04, 11:51 AM Flag
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What's the question? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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Am thinking of applying. Live in Manhattan and wanted to know if there is a division btw the Brooklyn families and the Manhattan families. Also, am hoping it is more down to earth. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:44 PM Flag
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NP: where in Manhattan are you? We are UWS are thinking the same thing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:51 PM Flag
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We live way downtown, so it is as easier than uptown schools and the downtown schools are already on my list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:59 PM Flag
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st. ann's alum here. I think the place is very down to earth socially, completely nuts in other (good and creative) ways. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.03.04, 09:33 AM Flag
[ - ] DC's classmate (age 3) isn't allowed to wear short sleeves or shorts because of the threat of skin cancer. But it's hard for me to explain the parents' policy to DC, who wonders why his friend looks so hot and sweaty all the time. Advice? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
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Too each his own. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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^^^ to^^ my fingers are flying [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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tell teh mom to quit making her kid get heat stroke!--SUNSCREEN??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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Re: tell teh mom to quit making her kid get heat stroke!--SUNSCREEN??? Yea that mom is obsessive. Good grief that's what sunscreen is for. Does she lock the kid in the house for most of the summer? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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I'd be honest. I'd say this kids' parents think the sun is too dangerous, and I disagree. I use lotion. At 3 they're able to grasp the concept of differences, I find. I try to just be candid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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There is lighweight clothing available in long sleeves/pants. Its really none of your business. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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I agree. MYOB. Tell your kid, if he is really asking, that diff. families have diff. rules and leave it at that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:01 PM Flag
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Your 3 year old notices? Maybe suggest that the friend needs a drink of water? Or a handkerchief? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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We can all read your subtext here (crazy mom afraid of cancer), but you know what? MYOB. I really don't believe you are at a loss as to what to say to your child and PS, maybe there is a family history you don't know about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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I second this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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I third. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:02 PM Flag
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third it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:03 PM Flag
[ - ] Looking for someone to do an evaluation. does anyone have experience with Dr. Andrew Morrell or Dr. Ann Steinberg? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Special Needs 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
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I don't know Dr. Morrell personally, but he was recommended to me by my own therapist (whom I love). I did not choose him as I found his fee was very high & I found someone else who did a fine job for a lot less money. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:12 PM Flag
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Thanks. If you don't mind my asking, who did you end up using? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:09 PM Flag
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Sure. We used Rickie Schuster (m) located at 80 East 11th St. Phone 212-475-1669 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 02:56 PM Flag
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Thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.03.04, 04:05 PM Flag
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Our school psychologist (mainstream) liked Morrell and didn't like Steinberg, FWIW. I couldn't get into Morrell, but a friend let me see the report he wrote for her child - extremely thorough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:14 PM Flag
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Thanks. Did the school psychologist say why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:10 PM Flag
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I didn't ask. I was having her vet our list of choices, b/c I wanted to make sure anyone we used would be acceptable to his school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:44 PM Flag
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That was smart. Thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.03.04, 04:07 PM Flag
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Dr, Morrell evaluated our child. He is wonderful and lovely with children. Recommend him strongly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 03:19 PM Flag
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Thanks so much! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.03.04, 04:07 PM Flag
[ - ] Anybody know a gyn Joanna Weiss (Cornell East Side Office)? I have received UB reccomendation for Sara Chako, but she will only take a new patient if expecting. The receptionist suggests I call Dr. Weiss. Anybody know her? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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I was a pt. of Dr. Chacko...Weiss is in the same practice...saw all the OB's at one time or another...Dr. Saltzman delivered my twins..I definitely recommend anyone in that practice (Weiss/Saltzman are on UES). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:56 PM Flag
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ps: you'll see the same OB throughout your pg., I only saw all of them due to my pre-term contractions. Hope this helps!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:59 PM Flag
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I went to her. I know lots of women who were in love with her, but I found her a bit too inexperienced. She handled a complication in my pregnancy very poorly and I switched OBs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:03 PM Flag
[ - ] Foreign guys working on rooftop across the street without any safety nets & walking on ledge....So scared for them & I'm sure their employer is braking law 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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Are they Native American? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:53 AM Flag
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It's scary the chances some people take to make $. DH told me of some Mexican laborers doing abestos abatement w/o an protective clothing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
[ - ] my 7 week dd has a terrible rash on her face. my pediatrican thinks she is rubbing her face against blankets that are too hard. everything I put her on is very soft though. does anyone have a similar problem? is there anything I can do to prevent the rash 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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My niece got a really horrible rash on her face around the same time as your dd. It's finally getting better after a couple weeks. My brother & SIL didn't do anything other than wait it out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:01 PM Flag
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My dd got a rash around that time. She was spitting up alot and I found that using a wet washcloth on her face instead of just wiping with a dry cloth mad a big differnce. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:52 PM Flag
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dd had a rash all over her face. looked awful. i think it was a eat rash. I also wiped her face with a wet washcloth and it went away pretty quickly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:40 PM Flag
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Maybe the detergent has dyes/perfumes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 02:00 PM Flag
[ - ] Friend just discovered she's pregnant ... 5 months pregnant! She just thought she was getting a plump tummy! 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:46 AM Flag
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I would LOVE to find out I'm pg at the 5th month. What a short pregnancy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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Oh come on! What did she think when her old friend Flo didn't show up for the last five months? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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I know a couple ppl that had light periods throughout their whole pregnancy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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I have a friend who didn't find out until 4 mos either. Always had had very light periods due to running. Never put on weight, only "normal" bloating like premenstrual [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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oh jeez, that's just sad. she didn't know for 5 months? i find that unbelieveable [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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OP: She was never very regular to begin with, so it did not clue her off. BTW, this is her 4th. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:46 PM Flag
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I didnt show until month 7 then hello make room for dumbo, I was huge for the last few months. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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That's pretty scary - hope she hasn't been drinking a ton of alcohol in the last 5 months [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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the baby would be doomed if that were me! I still obsess over drinking a lot before I knew I was pg [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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I wish that could happen to me! Pregnant w/ #2 and puked twice already (am 7 wks) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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my friend is 15 weeks pregnant and has been sick every day. she hasn't eaten more than a bagel in this time! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
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Happens! I didn't get my period for two months. Did a test - neg. Went to gyn, he did a test - neg. One month after I found out I was pregnant. At the first sonogram (I was supposed to be at 6 weeks), dr. said baby looked at least 8wo. (m) at the 12w sonogram, the person at the hospital told me she couldn't do the test (nt) because baby was at least 16w/o. At that point I was nearly hoping to give birth the month after :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:20 PM Flag
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I knew someone who claimed she didn't know until the 7th month. She gave the baby up for adoption. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:22 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone else ever wonder how they spend so much time on somethign that is so unattractive, UB has got to be one of the butt-ugly websites. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:44 AM Flag
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No but I had a boyfriend in college I could have said the same thing about. ;) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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Who cares? You are so superficial. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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Not op but that is a pretty catty and broad statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
[ - ] how long can can you keep hot dogs in fridge and still eat them? they're in a sealed baggie, and they're not past the expiration date yet. thanks 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:42 AM Flag
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Please don't tell me you're thinking of feeding HOTDOGS to your dc! jk :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:43 AM Flag
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actually it's for me :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:46 AM Flag
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Whew! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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They're fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:44 AM Flag
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i get sick easily so my rule is if you have to ask, chuck it! dh has iron stromach and never gets sick he'll eat stuff that been there forever. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:48 AM Flag
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you are saying you opened them, then put them in ziplock right? If so, I'd give the smell test and check that they aren't slimey. (No more than four or five days I'd guess... but I have a cast iron gullet.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
[ - ] Just a heads-up to people applying to schools who are new to this board. Please be aware that some people will say things that may not be true to try to give their child an advantage in the application process. (m) The posts below about some downtown independent schools not being desirable made me think about this. Of course some people will choose PS 41 over Friends, Grace, LREI; on the other hand . . . 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 08.02.04, 11:41 AM Flag
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I too was surprised about what was written about LREI, but it is true that lots of folks down here are sending their kids to PS 41, and these are families who could afford private school. Reading this board makes you think everyone wants a private school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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Absolutely true, but I do know people who are going to give PS 41 a try before they fork over $25,000 a year. It's different downtonw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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Do we know the same families? :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
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My next door neighbors had two kids at PS 41, daughter very very happy there (m) but the son was a little lost. He is now at (yep!) LREI, needed the smaller class size-- [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:12 PM Flag
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It's possible. However, I am an old time NYer & still view these schools with suspicion. Just because they are filled with banker kids doesn't make them dalton you know? But I do try to keep my views silent most of the time so there's less competit for my kid if we have to go uptown! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.03.04, 06:39 AM Flag
[ - ] Let's ponder another scenario: What if there's another election fiasco this November - lost ballots, questions of poll-rigging....Americans roll over w/o a fight again or riot in the streets? (Or talk for a week and then shrug...) 26 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 08.02.04, 11:41 AM Flag
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I've wondered this, too--our collective attention span is so short, and our investment in our own democracy so limited, it wouldn't surprise me if we were pissed for a week and got over it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:42 AM Flag
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Funny you say this because I think the Dems philosophical issues with this war are very shortsighted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:45 AM Flag
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I think about it. I don't think the country is ready for a revolution. You know, I don't think that revolutions are spontaneous - it can take years to develop. Please get out to vote, volunteer as a pollwatcher, help your neighbors do the same! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:44 AM Flag
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If there is a revolution, you Dems are in big trouble. Guess who believes in the "right to bear arms." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:46 AM Flag
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LOL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:46 AM Flag
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You don't need to have guns in order to have a revolution, moron. I guess Bush appeals to idiots who carry firearms [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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OK.... and what exactly do you plan to fight with - carrots, tomatoes are more effective. I know use all that duct tape to tie us up! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:49 AM Flag
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Since when is violence the only way to struggle? Watch Manchurian Candidate for some other ideas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:51 AM Flag
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Sorry, you're too stupid to engage in any kind of discussion. Go back to reading People and shut up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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Oh come on, liberal dem here - get a sense of humor! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:52 AM Flag
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I think she really meant it. And thought she was clever. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:53 AM Flag
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She was clever. I laughed, and now I'm laughing at you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:55 AM Flag
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I got my shot gun and I'm a comin after YOU! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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Yeeeeehhhhaaaa!!!! Careful with that, Daisy Mae! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:17 PM Flag
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Can you name a successful political revolution w/o guns? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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They are going to bore us to death with their witty banter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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The vast right-wing conspiracy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:59 AM Flag
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Gandhi? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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First, Ghandi wasn't the only person fighting for Indian independence, just the only non-violant one but I think, (not a historian) had WWII not happened, GB would not have granted India/Pakistan independence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:25 PM Flag
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Oh well then, I guess Gandhi was just a pointless shlub. Nevermind. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:37 PM Flag
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Ghandhi was a miserable failure, dontcha know. Depressed him so much he couldn't eat [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:44 PM Flag
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MLK. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:09 PM Flag
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Suffrage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:10 PM Flag
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Oh, wow. I guess you lose, huh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:16 PM Flag
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LISTEN HERE: Anyone who lives in a county or knows of someone in a country that uses electronic voting machines. Tell them (or go) to go get an absentee ballot. We need a paper trail! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:51 AM Flag
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We want you to leave a paper trail so we don't have to listen to you whine "unfair" for 4 more years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
[ - ] Contemplating CIO for 7 mo. old DS. His sleep habits are getting way out of control. My fear, though, is that we would go thru the pain and agony of CIO, and DS still would not sleep better. Has anyone out there done CIO by the book (not giving (m) after a night or two) and not have it work? I wan't DS to learn how to sleep better, but I don't want him to go thru all that crying if it won't work in the end. 28 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 08.02.04, 11:41 AM Flag
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What are his sleep habits? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:43 AM Flag
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He won't sleep in his crib -- prefers our bed, goes to bed at night anywhere between 8 and 11 pm, and usually has to be nursed to sleep after a long time fussing. He wakes a few times a night fussing, and I usually have to nurse him to get him to (m) sleep again. He takes naps at random times, and can't just be put in his crib. He either needs to be held and rocked, or he falls asleep in his stroller. He takes really short naps, and wakes up crying because he's still tired. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:54 AM Flag
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Here's what I did: I established my ds's nap schedule per Weissbluth. That is, a nap after no more than 2 hrs. of wakefulness. I established a naptime routine. That is, close the blinds, put on soothing music at a low volume, pacifier and rock to nap. Even if he slept for 20 mins, he went down two hrs. later the same way until bedtime. I established a bedtime routine of bath, massage, bottle of bm, and bed. Sometimes he wakes up and we pick him up and he burps or just goes back down again without incident. We give him a pacifier. The naptime routine got much better within 1-2 wks. You've got to work hard at it and be committed. When my 8.5 mo ds wakes anytime after 4 am, I nurse him and bring him into bed with me until 6-7 am. Some babies need to "learn" how to sleep but they need their mommy to implement routines so that they can follow the cues. It doesn't happen overnight, but it's worth the work. I'd rather not CIO while my db is teething, gassy, etc. I feel that as an adult, we have lots of restless nights and know they are not easy. If you must resort to CIO, read Ferber who suggests going in at 5 min intervals to assure your db you are still there, but it is time to sleep. Have you tried NCSS (No Cry Sleep Solution)? Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:12 PM Flag
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Re: Here's what I did: AT WHAT AGE DID YOU IMPLEMENT THIS SCHEDULE? AND HOW OFTEN DO YOU FEED? I HAVE DIFFICULTY FITTING IN FEEDINGS IF HE SLEEPS EVERY 2 HOURS FROM BEGINNING OF NAP TO BEGINNING OF NAP [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:38 PM Flag
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OR: I began at 3 mo. I bf ds. I fed around the nap schedule as that was the most important thing to me. His nap schedule has fallen into place -- 9 am, 1 pm, 4 pm. 45-45-30 mins. Bedtime at 7:30. (m) He nurses at 5 am, 7 am. Breakfast at 8 am (cereal & fruit). Nap at 9-9:45. Nurse betw. 10:30-11. Lunch at 12. Nap at 1-1:45/2. Nurse at 3/3:30. Nap at 4/4:15 (30 mins). Dinner at 5 (veggie & fruit). May nurse at 6. Bathtime at 7/7:15, massage, dh gives bedtime btl, bed. Now he's 8.5 months so he stays up longer intervals but not more than 3 hrs ever! My mom just started babysitting 10 days a month and she says he is a dream to care for as he knows exactly what to do at those set times. Now I'm teaching him to self-soothe by rocking him and putting him down while still awake. She just called to say he wants to be put down with eyes open! I just started that a week ago. They learn fast. Hang in there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:46 PM Flag
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no no it's 2 hours from end of nap to beginning of nesxt. So only 2 hours of wakefulness at a time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:15 PM Flag
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I just want to say what a great response. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:11 PM Flag
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Yeah, that so sounds like my DD. We were on the verge to actually do CIO with her but never got the nerves to actually do that (plus, you just don't do that to a young baby, anyway :). We sat it out. It took a few more months and without any "training" methods she now sleeps through at 14 months. It will happen eventually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:56 PM Flag
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My ds just regressed at 6.5 mos. He's now 7 mos and I rushed out to B&N this weekend and bought Weissbluth's book. I haven't started yet, as I haven't read enough. But from what I read so far, I think we're going to go for it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:47 AM Flag
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Weissbluth is quite harsh on CIO. Why don't you try the nap schedule first. Is your ds teething? If so, you might want to try a little Tylenol before bed. Does he take a pacifier? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:50 AM Flag
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OP here: I'm reading Ferber. Is he less harsh than Weissbluth? DS may be teething, but really his sleep habits always were really screwede fault. Our fault, I guess. We let him do whatever he wanted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:57 AM Flag
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^^^ sorry about typos. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:00 PM Flag
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CIO is harsh to a baby in any method used but Ferber sounds more humane to me in that you keep going in at longer intervals 5-10-15 mins, assuring db you have not abandoned them. Some babies truly have sleep problems. Most don't. Most need our (m) Patience, commitment to naps/bedtime, a routine to signal to them it is time to sleep (dark rooms, soft music, quieting down, etc.), and we need to catch our babies in their first signals of sleepiness -- first yawn, rubbing eyes, fussing -- which occurs within 2 hrs of wakefulness. You do admit it's probably your fault that you let him do what he wanted but poor little guy doesn't know what to do to sleep or how to do it. Don't be hard on yourself either, as new parents we don't know what to do. Babies do not come with manuals. But we are the adults and we can draw from deep within and find patience, empathy, and respect for our babies. Please give him a chance with gentler methods before resorting to CIO. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:21 PM Flag
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Keep reading Weissbluth and you'll see several suggestions identical to those here. You'll also learn why if you are going to CIO, full extinction is preferable to partial (e.g., Ferber). I know it's counter-intuitive, but much about babies' sleep i [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 02:56 PM Flag
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There were a couple choices in Weissbluth's book. You don't have to use the 'extinction' method as he describes total CIO. I know that I cannot leave my DS to just cry his brains out for too long. I can't imagine it's all that healthy. (m) But if he is in 'normal' spirits- ie not having a teething fit, then I think letting him cry for a few minutes in the middle of the night as opposed to constantly getting up and nursing him is a better approach to getting him to sleep through the night. At 7 mos, he should be able to get through till the morning. Or at least get through with only 1 night feeding as opposed to 3 or 4 (don't you think that's too much?). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:58 PM Flag
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I prefer the gentler methods of No Cry Sleep Solution (Pantley) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:56 AM Flag
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That's what we're doing, and it's not working. I'd give it time if it seemed to be improving, but things are getting worse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 11:58 AM Flag
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You sound like us. Also begining to contemplate cio... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:21 PM Flag
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We were in the same boat with our 11 mo old son. We were dedicated to the No Cry Sleep Solution, but it wasn't working after months. Then son fixed it for us - just started sleeping from 9 until 6. Who knew? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:50 PM Flag
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How are his naps? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:53 PM Flag
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Exactly my point. It is probably very hatd for parents in OP's position to believe this. But it is true. Most babies change their sleeping habbits to the better from one night to the other. Hang in there, OP! :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:58 PM Flag
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OP here: Thanks, will try to avoid CIO for now. We're going on vacation soon anyway, so we'll wait and see. Maybe a miracle will happen and DS will start sleeping better! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:11 PM Flag
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OP here: I still haven [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:54 PM Flag
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^^^ Oops, hit enter. As I was saying, I still haven't heard from anyone who's done CIO and didn't have it work. It sounds like it works, although not fun for all involved. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:56 PM Flag
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You said it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 12:59 PM Flag
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Of course, it works most of the time. A baby is a human being just like you and me and every will can be broken. In the end it is a fight between you and your baby and the strongest will win. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:13 PM Flag
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NP: We did CIO for 5.5 mo ds after months of night wakings and terrible naps. We were scared by the anti-CIO UB moms so we tried Baby Whisperer, NCSS, Dr. Sears... nothing worked. It took 3 days of CIO & ds slept thru. (m) I'm not saying you have to do CIO, it's a tough decision. But also don't be scared by the anti-CIOers into thinking it won't work or your baby will be scarred or whatever. It was so hard for me to hear our ds cry for the first few nights but in the end I think that this was the best thing for him. Nothing else worked. I hope for your sake that your dc will grow out of it but we couldn't wait, as his sleep habits kept getting worse and he kept getting up more frequently thru the night and was always tired and cranky. Now he is well rested and happy, and I can actually be productive at work too after sleeping for more than a 2 hr stretch at a time. Good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 01:57 PM Flag
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I don't think I'm the person you asked to hear from, since we weren't consistent, but I'll just add the middle-of-the-night CIO didn't work for us, maybe due to our inconsistency, but bedtime CIO was a LIFESAVER. So if you're hesistant, I would say start by giving DS an opportunity to learn to go to sleep on his own at bedtime and see if that doesn't help him sleep throught the night. In the meantime, if he wakes at night, just give him a few minutes to see if he'll go back to sleep, then go to him. We also gave up on naptime CIO and just nurse/bottle/rock DD to sleep at naptimes. By the way, CIO is not about breaking DB's will, it's about giving them a chance to learn self-soothing skills. Believe me, DD does not hesitate to let us know, at any time, if she is unhappy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.02.04, 02:47 PM Flag
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