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[ - ] We've been paying our nanny of 4 years to stay home for the past 8 weeks and she forgot 5yo DD's birthday- no mention of it and it was 4 days ago. Am I right to feel a little hurt about that? 24 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:12 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:16 PM Flag
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Did you mention it a few days earlier. Why would she remember? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 PM Flag
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It's not about whether it's right. You feel upset because your DD is hugely important to you, and want your nanny to feel the same. That's understandable but not necessarily realistic. Our nannies always remembered DC's birthday, but they were not also dealing with a pandemic. Maybe cut the nanny some slack, you don't know what she's dealing with. If you want her to say or do something, call and ask her if she can maybe call DD and wish her a happy belated birthday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:18 PM Flag
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Your feelings are your feelings. There’s no right or wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:18 PM Flag
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I would. BTW, my nanny expects me to make a big deal out of her birthday (a gift, flowers, etc) and I know she’d be pissed if I didn’t, but I guarantee you she has no idea when my birthday is (since she’s never acknowledged it). Given that, I’d expect her to at least acknowledge DC’s. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 PM Flag
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Yes. I would. We had au pairs many years ago and they still text or write on one of my son's birthdays (the one they were mostly in charge of). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 PM Flag
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Do you know what's going on in her life, possible illness, unemployment, other issues? Probably not. Your DD will survive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:32 PM Flag
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np- unemployment? op said she's been paying her for the past two months. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:35 PM Flag
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She could be supporting out-of-work relatives for all OP knows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:40 PM Flag
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op: of course I do. I text her frequently to check in on her. She's 28yo, single, no kids. Says she hasn't been going out and is bored. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:36 PM Flag
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She’s self-centered, obviously. She’s rude. Our nanny of 4 years who hasn’t worked for us in 6 remembers each of my children’s birthdays, even the one born after she stopped working for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:38 PM Flag
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op: that's so nice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 PM Flag
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Some of these responses are unnecessary harsh. She’s still your employee and you are being generous to have paid her for the past 2 months - plenty of others are not. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect something small and thoughtful like a happy birthday for DC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:36 PM Flag
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op: yes, it's not about the money. I only mentioned that to show that we care about her well-being. DD misses her a lot. It doesn't seem to go both ways and that's kind of sad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 PM Flag
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I would be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:38 PM Flag
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Yes. You're right to feel hurt. A nanny is more than just "help." It's someone who bathes your kids, feeds your kids, plays with your kids. I hear from people whose nannies ask for FaceTimes. And I hear from moms whose parents are paying like you and the nannies don't show signs of missing the kids. It runs the gamut. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:39 PM Flag
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op: she hasn't asked about the kids at all or suggested FaceTime. Seems very checked out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:49 PM Flag
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She’s getting a long paid staycation while also dealing with a global pandemic while living alone. It’s not easy for anyone but now you know where her priorities are. Honestly if I were you I’d fire her. I used to be a nanny and when I wasn’t with the kids (like on vacation) I would check in occasionally and send pictures and definitely call on their birthdays! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:09 PM Flag
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op: I haven't mentioned this to DH but part of me thinks that she is kind of stringing us along and may not come back to work after all this is over anyway:( [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:14 PM Flag
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Highly likely, does she have any other skills? Not the best time to be job hunting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:19 PM Flag
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horrible. I would be furious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:56 PM Flag
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Yes I would be upset [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:06 PM Flag
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You can feel hurt but you need to remember that your nanny is not your family, she is your employee. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:18 PM Flag
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A good employee would be smart enough to remember a birthday. Small touches go a long way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:23 PM Flag
[ - ] Are there any accurate numbers for Georgia since the reopening? 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:52 PM Flag
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/georgia-coronavirus-cases.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:00 PM Flag
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To summarize, cases have gone up slightly but not much. I take this as good news. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:00 PM Flag
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Thanks I hope so. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:05 PM Flag
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All that matters is the number being admitted to hospitals. If the hospitals are not being overwhelmed it might as well be a cold, a bad flu, anything. But if medical attention is not needed it's not overwhelming and people are just recovering at home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 PM Flag
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This is my view. Assuming no vaccine is imminent, all that matters is that the curve is below the dotted line that represent hospital capacity. It seems to be, even in states with no or poor lockdowns. Also keep in mind that in some places raw cases is up because testing has massively expanded. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:31 PM Flag
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I think people want Georgia to explode because they want to 1) prove that red states are dumb and 2) feel validated that we all stayed in for the past how many months and it meant something. GA does not have near the density and public transportation system NYC does so they will not be infected the same way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:29 PM Flag
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I get this perspective and if I am being honest there is a little tiny but in me that wants some of the idiot behavior to backfire because I think lots of people made some bad decisions, but overwhelmingly I want this to be done more than I want to prove a point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 PM Flag
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or: yes I totally agree. I feel similarly. But I really want this all to end. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 PM Flag
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^^^and to be fair there is idiot behavior on the NE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:46 PM Flag
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There is idiot behavior on the UES. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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Me too. I would rather everyone have good numbers, so we can continue down a good path as a country. Schools are important for September, so manageable cases will help everyone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:11 PM Flag
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Navajo nation doesn't have subway either. Tokyo and Seoul on the other hand do. I'm not saying that you are completely wrong, just that there are many factors in play. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:39 PM Flag
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There is no comparing Asian countries to the US. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 PM Flag
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How about Germany? Or do you want to cherrypick? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:11 PM Flag
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you can throw Germany in there too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:24 PM Flag
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Haven’t they been accused of doctoring the numbers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 PM Flag
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They can doctor all they want, but again, look at the numbers in the hospital. If they aren't at capacity or screaming for more assistance what does it matter. The raw data numbers are hard for any state to accurately measure. If they are slightly off does it matter if the hospitals are running okay? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 PM Flag
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They will not be able to hide year over year increase in deaths. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:03 PM Flag
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Again, if the hospitals are not overwhelmed it doesn't matter. Yes, not ideal if people are dying, but people are always dying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:23 PM Flag
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Hospitals being below capacity means every person was given the best care available. It is not possible to save everyone from everything [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:12 PM Flag
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Georgia seems to be fine. Alabama, on the other hand, is having a real problem with their hospitals. The mayor of Montgomery basically said we are out of ICU beds. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:21 PM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone noticed a positive difference in their hair from adding collagen? Like the powder kind you put in your coffee? I am trying to make my hair thicker (41 yo). 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:33 PM Flag
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I took it for a year (the Vital Proteins brand) and noticed no difference in anything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:36 PM Flag
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Same, sadly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:06 PM Flag
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Have you tried the Nutrafol supplement? I'm doing that now - I am 1/3 through my first bottle but I heard it works really well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 PM Flag
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op: haven't tried. Will check it out. Thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:19 PM Flag
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Yes. It didn’t work for me (and was super expensive!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:36 PM Flag
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Not sure if this is helpful or applies to you, but while my hair was never thinning, I'm suprised at how full and thick it has gotten in the past few months being in quarantine (in addition to just being longer). It might be because I'm only washing it like every few days, not using as much product (and certainly not "fixing" it as much during the day). Are you able to go au natural for a bit (or have you already?) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:58 PM Flag
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op: thanks, I already go 3-4 days not washing it and using dry shampoo in between. It does help! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:05 PM Flag
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Try scrapping the dry shampoo too if you can. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:22 PM Flag
[ - ] Just watching the Today Show. Wow. So many people going on as life as normal over the weekend. Will be interesting to see the numbers two weeks from now! 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:07 AM Flag
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Big deal, life needs to move on. My dc are going back to school next Monday! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:41 AM Flag
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Really? Where? I thought most of the places where stupid governors had reopened finished school for the year by now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:05 PM Flag
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London [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:10 PM Flag
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Idk. My friend reported that everyone was drinking and congregating for VE in England 2 weeks ago and predicted a spike, but their number are still heading down [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:27 PM Flag
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The curve id flat. Hopefully people are careful and it stays flat. We can’t wait for vaccine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:28 PM Flag
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Amen. People should be careful but come outside. Even in NYC. This weekend was GREAT. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:40 PM Flag
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Yes! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:45 PM Flag
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No the curve is not flat. Look at what’s happening in MS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Any ENT mom on? My two year old had an ear infection in mid-March that we treated with amoxicillin. We had to stop the treatment after 7 days because she developed an allergic reaction. When the doctor examined her 2 days after we stopped the antibiotics she said there was still fluid (in her middle ear?) and we should take her to the doctor 2-3 weeks later. I have an ENT appointment scheduled this week, but not sure if it is worth going because the receptionist said the doctors still see 40 patients a day and I am still worried about COVID, we are in NYC. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:53 AM Flag
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Mayo Clinic's website says an ear infection can lead to hearing loss or meningitis, among other things. Yes, COVID-19 is bad, but so is an untreated ear infection. Have you ever had an ear infection? I've had several, as an adult and a child, they are excruciating. I'm in NYC too, if it were my kid I would keep the appointment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:01 AM Flag
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Did you stop because the doctor told you to stop or because she developed a scary looking rash so you took her off the medicine? I ask because my child had an extreme rash all over starting day 8 and my pediatrician told me to finish the cycle anyway because the rash started toward the end--and while he definitely had an extreme sensitivity it's common and they would still try amoxicillin again. This doesn't answer your question but thought I'd bring it to your attention--something to discuss with your pediatrician. And as for the ENT. Is your daughter still having symptoms? Can you have the pediatrician look at it again before going to the ENT? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:46 AM Flag
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I’m not an ENT, but DC had a terrible ear infection when he was 3, and the fluid took months to clear. ENT said that was totally normal. Fluid takes a long time to clear up after ear infections, and the fact that there’s fluid doesn’t mean there’s still an infection. I’d call both ped and ENT, discuss symptoms and ask if she needs to be seen. If she does, either place can check if she still has an infection, so go to whichever is less crowded. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 09:26 AM Flag
[ - ] What are some good private schools in the south? 53 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:56 AM Flag
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The South is a big area [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:00 AM Flag
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yes it is. Can you name some? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:01 AM Flag
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Are you really willing to relocate anywhere from Virginia to Florida to Texas, as long as there is a good private school nearby? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:04 AM Flag
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maybe. can work from anywhere and would like to send DCs to a school that has a better chance of opening. I know the big ones in Miami and Atlanta, just wondering where else to look [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:09 AM Flag
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Jesus Christ, you are going to uproot your life somewhere totally random just to avoid 3-6 months of remote schooling? I mean, I get if you want to leave the tri-state area in general, but to land on a relocation just because of the relative order they will open schools is... bizarre. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:37 AM Flag
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thanks for your help! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:39 AM Flag
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Np: I was not the poster above, but I agree with her. Please don’t buy into this whole hysteria with schools not opening until 2031, or until the vaccine is developed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:42 AM Flag
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OR: +1, and the other thing I can't wrap my brain around is how people are acting as if they are certain that the NYC schools definitely won't open, but schools in other states definitely will. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:08 AM Flag
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NYC poses unique problems bc of its density, makes perfect sense that other schools may open while NYC does not. Many people were already on the fence about NYC and this is just accelerating their departure. Not sure why this is so difficult for some people to grasp. From what I'm seeing, those most likely to leave are upper middle class professionals. Not wealthy enough for second home and paying private school is not a drop in the bucket. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:02 PM Flag
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I'm not asking why it spread quickly here, I'm asking why you think schools here are certain to be closed while others are certain to be open. You're making things up as you go along and don't actually know anything. It's like you spotted the "density" talking point on a site are just re-posting it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:20 PM Flag
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I'm OP and have some first hand insight into private schools reopening plans. Yes they want to try to open but 1) Cuomo, rightly, is being more stringent on meeting guidelines than many other governors 2) Those guidelines are not easily met in NYC which to the other person's point is more dense than other cities, schools don't have the same amount of space and 3) You have a parent population that includes groups of paranoid, entitled and litigious people. Yes you have them everywhere but NYC private school parents are a different breed. If something goes wrong in reopening schools know parents won't be especially forgiving. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 PM Flag
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I think a lot of these posts are fake [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:41 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:36 PM Flag
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IDK but watching this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:41 AM Flag
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I can tell you the good private schools in Dallas, but I need to know the ages of your DCs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:47 AM Flag
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Long-view school in Austin Texas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:41 AM Flag
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Pine Crest School in Boca, FL. Very good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:06 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:29 AM Flag
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thank you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 PM Flag
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I think many who have been on the fence about NYC are taking this opportunity to make a change. I get it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:28 AM Flag
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Westminster in Atlanta, although definitely has a Christian religious approach [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:44 PM Flag
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There's no way this is real. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:03 PM Flag
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OP: why not? We love NYC but taxes have gotten out of hand (in part thanks to SALT) quality of life has been on the decline and both of those will just get worse over the next few years. Our kids school is here and work, but now work can be done from anywhere and it's hard to shell out $55k a year for remote learning. My DC is about to start high school and given it's only 4 years I'd like to make it as normal as possible (and saving significant money at the same time is a win win). NYC as we know and love it won't be back for many years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:11 PM Flag
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np. I disagree about the last part. I think it much of it will be back sooner than we think. Have you seen the latest antibody testing results for NYC? Parts of the Bronx had 43% of the people testing positive for antibodies! If nearly half of the city has already had it, we are getting closer to reaching herd immunity than many other parts of the country. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:14 PM Flag
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^those results are on Gov. Cuomo's website by the way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:15 PM Flag
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OR:I really hope so. But the revenue loss the city has already experienced coupled with the realization that many high income jobs don't have to be in Manhattan plus long-term impact of lost revenue from no tourism, broadway, restaurants. This is a long-term crisis when the city already seemed to be headed in the wrong direction. Many people I know with kids in private schools left in March and don't plan to come back for awhile. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:19 PM Flag
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43% of what % of population? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:28 PM Flag
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They tested 8,000 people across different neighborhoods and then extrapolate based on the percent who test positive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:34 PM Flag
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But the people tested are more likely to have had COVID so you can't project that onto the general pop [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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pp: no, that's not how antibody testing from the government works. They literally go into a supermarket parking lot and test completely random people. Hence, it is a random sample of the population. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:06 PM Flag
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It's 43% in one zip code [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:23 PM Flag
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correct. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:57 PM Flag
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So you're just going to pack up and move to some random place in the south to which you have no connection and known no one, based on whether that place has a decent private school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:39 PM Flag
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^ Also has work told you your job is going permanently remote? Mine certainly hasn't. If not, what are you going to do when they announce next year that the office is reopening, and you're down in Boca with your kid enrolled in school there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 PM Flag
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OP: I do know many people in the south. But anyway it's not like my NYC network is here. Everyone has left for their second homes and many aren't planning to come back until there is a safe vaccine and a number are doing what I'm doing (looking at other options). And yes, I am confident I can work from anywhere. I'm the head of our NYC office and have had discussions with our global management team. Not sure why everyone is taking this as a personal affront. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:05 PM Flag
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I am sure many people will come back before the vaccine is found. We are not attacking you, we are just saying that many people have overreacted. Please take a possibility that the virus could weaken as it mutates, so things could go back to normal sooner than anyone expected [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:49 PM Flag
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I understand that one day the vaccine will be found. I'm being rational, thinking about the next two years of school facing disruption coupled with how much we pay for schools, to live here and taxes. My kids is starting high school, so that is potentially half of his high school experience. Moving to Florida would pay for college with the tax savings. Of course I prefer NYC but the NYC I love won't be around for the next two years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:01 PM Flag
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People who are stuck in NYC, for whatever reason, are scared that people are leaving [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:53 PM Flag
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You mean the traitor states? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:46 PM Flag
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Why do you think they would have openings? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:51 PM Flag
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Every school has openings [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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No. They dont. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:05 PM Flag
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because everywhere else just sits around waiting for New Yorkers to come and grace them with their presence. This also goes for the questions I see about "We want to emigrate to another country that's more COVID-free. Which is best?" Like you can just pick up and move to any old country because of course they want you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:05 PM Flag
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LOL! my friend does private school admissions at a very competitive school here in "the South" and every year there's a family from an NYC TT private who just assume their kids will just glide right in. They are oft surprised they need to apply to multiple schools and in many instances need to do a year at public then apply for the next year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:51 PM Flag
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but...but...we were at Dalton! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 06:03 PM Flag
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OP: I don't know but am investigating. Many schools have openings in the middle of summer, including NYC schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:10 PM Flag
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St Marks School of Texas for boys and Hockaday for girls in Dallas. SM was named best school in the country this year. Very difficult admission however [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:47 PM Flag
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Correct, although I don't think many people consider Texas to be in "the South." It is Texas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:47 PM Flag
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thank you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:23 PM Flag
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It doesn't matter. They can go to the best private school in the south but they all still end up at Ole Miss or SMU. Source: I am from the south. And I was a Tri Delt. And I'm keeping my DCs far from that BS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:38 PM Flag
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Not true. Zero of my son's classmates at St. Mark's went to Ole Miss. Several went to SMU having received very large academic scholarships. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:48 PM Flag
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So yes, what I said was true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:45 PM Flag
[ - ] If someone is first gen and low income or lower middle class & has no idea where to start for college planning if no one checks in and asks questions, would it be a bad thing for that person to be forced to monthly discuss the future? Without someone to help, the student would be set up for failure. Earlier I was told that failure is amazing. That we should let kids get a job for a year or two after high school to figure themselves out. I think that is easy to say if the parents are able to provide the adult child with a safety net. But not all parents are living a middle class lifestyle and able to do that. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:46 AM Flag
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THIS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:47 AM Flag
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I’m a hs teacher. I have been saying this for some time. I agree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:51 AM Flag
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Saying what? There are multiple points here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 PM Flag
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IA. Also, tbh, this sounds cynical but my own experience having an extended family where some people go to college and some don't is that working-class/low-income kids who go to college immediately after HS and don't let themselves get derailed have a better chance of finishing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:34 AM Flag
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Failure is not amazing. Most of the time, it is devastating. So yes, the kid should be forced to talk about the future, doesn't have to be college but it has to be something. I made my DC do it, he has an anxiety disorder and never wanted to talk about it, but we insisted, while providing huge amounts of love and support. He is a straight A student who got into his first choice college, with a scholarship. Letting him just flail, and maybe not get in anywhere, would not have been noble, or character building, or better in any way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:10 AM Flag
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I am the poster that said to let your kid get a job. I said that before based on your OP which made it sound like your daughter didn't want to go to college, before you further explained that your daughter does indeed want to go to college, just doesn't want to talk to you about it. My opinion does not come from a place of privilege, I grew up middle class, went to college on a scholarship, and remain middle class (happily, might I add, though it seems no one on this board can imagine being happily middle class...). Quite the opposite actually, my opinion is based on the insane price of college these days. Forcing a middle-class kid to go to college and saddling them with $$$ student debt is also setting them up for failure, no? Again, my comment was based on your DD not WANTING to go to college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 10:46 AM Flag
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^^ Once you explained that the issue was not "my DD doesn't want to go to college" but "my DD doesn't want to talk to me", I gave you a suggestion on how to get her to talk and you didn't like that response either. In fact, you didn't appreciate ANY of the responses on your other thread - each one was met with a diatribe. And when the responses dried up, you started a new thread. I can see why your DD doesn't want to talk to you. You argue like a lawyer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:14 AM Flag
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I made it clear in the OP that I had to do these talks with her, but I want to relieve the pressure she's having. And I did like many of the responses on my post. Just some people did not seem to understand that someone needs to check in briefly since she hates the guidance counselor at school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:43 PM Flag
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OP's daughter sounds like she has just as much of a plan as most highly counseled kids who plan to apply to multiple tiers of private colleges. It's just not the tier that OP prefers. There's a vast difference between not knowing anything about the college application process/financial aid or where to begin, and knowing enough about it to succeed but not wanting to make it into a bigger hassle than it needs to be. FWIW my friend's niece was the opposite of OP's daughter - very motivated about the whole college search process, had a private college search counselor, etc etc. She ended up dropping out of Santa Clara U because it wasn't a good fit but also because she wasn't really ready to be away from home. She went to community college for two years, lived at home and worked part time, then transferred to UC Berkeley (she hadn't gotten in to Davis or Cal out of high school) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:13 PM Flag
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No, I do not care about tier of college. I'd be happy with CSU East Bay. We just have very limited resources, so we need to set expectations for schools where she can actually get in because those application fees are ridiculously high. She just has to go to a university and get a four year degree. Any university we can afford, and any four year degree that can lead to employment. She sounds like she has a plan because once a month she is forced to answer questions about her future for fifteen to twenty minutes. As I said on that post, according to her guidance counselor she does not know if she is going to go to university because she won't talk to the school counselor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:35 PM Flag
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A lot of the "let them navigate it themselves!" advice on UB is just a way for people to justify their lazy parenting... as if it's an actual strategy or something. Sure there are teachable moments throughout life where it is indeed valuable to let kids learn through failure, but sometimes the stakes are just too high for the benefit of that to outweigh the risk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:21 PM Flag
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Yeah, I was first gen, lower middle class in high school. My school would allow the military and for-profit colleges to recruit from our cafeteria. During my senior year I got a part-time job at a law office. My guidance counselor asked if I liked my job and advised me to go for my "paralegal certificate" so I could then go to law school. Two years later, I graduated with a useless certificate and $60K in debt. I spent my 20's working as a legal secretary and paying off my school loans. I never got to go to a real school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:49 PM Flag
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There are laws about trying to bar military recruiters from being on campus. You lose federal funding if you allow employment recruiters but bar military recruiters. You don't lose federal funding if you bar all employment recruiters from campus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:40 PM Flag
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Sure. Both DH and I are immigrants and weren't guided by anyone. Had to figure many things ourselves and missed much. It's always has been hard to be a trailblazer: now, 50 years, 100 yeas and 500 years ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:15 PM Flag
[ - ] How many of you have your sitters and house cleaners back? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 AM Flag
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every other cleaner came back two weeks ago and back tomorrow. We paid her back pay, she was grateful and stayed for 6 hours when she normally stays for 3.5. We stayed in our offices with the doors shut and we did not come out while she was there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:45 AM Flag
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I am having he cleaner come next week. I will pay her all the missed days. Still figuring out the logistics, but I may just give DCs day off from school and go outside with them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:26 AM Flag
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Not yet. Hoping for early June, but have been paying [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:38 AM Flag
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Housekeeper. Will not have sitter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:29 AM Flag
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Have been paying cleaner. She said she was ready to come back this month. I said no thanks and sent her a check. We really have nowhere to go while she cleans. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:34 PM Flag
[ - ] My husband and I are fighting on time and child care, I want three days he wants three , it’s not enough already for me. This week sucks more because of the holiday, not sure we can do this for another few months. I am hating our life, never ending cleaning cooking chores homeschooling. No end in dire, camp cancelled, When are people bringing babysitters back? Other options? 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:29 AM Flag
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Are you in NYC? If not, most people I know are already having their nannies/sitters back if they can come without having to use public transport. We are hiring a college age sitter for the summer - there is just no other way to manage so the reward outweighs the risk. Honestly, you have to do what you have to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:32 AM Flag
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Op really do people have their sitters back? I have had it, yes we are in nyc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:42 AM Flag
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Many of my friends have their sitters back in NYC - many are having them live in temporarily, others are driving them to avoid public transport. We would have ours back and drive her, but our Co-op board won't allow anyone from the outside in until the stay home order ends. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:51 AM Flag
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Coops suck. And anyone who owns one won't be able to get out of their apt now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:11 AM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:48 PM Flag
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so many antiquated rules. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:32 PM Flag
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No answers but just want to say I'm with you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 AM Flag
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It’s never ending [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 AM Flag
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Get live in help or something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:03 AM Flag
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How many people legit can accommodate live in help in an NYC apt? I'm assuming those who can have left the city, as they can also afford a country or beach home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:40 AM Flag
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We have an au pair in the city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:43 AM Flag
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I have 3 kids and dh’s job “takes priority” because he makes more. I got about 8 hours of work in last week total. I’m extremely efficient and am getting my work done but it is not sustainable. We are paying our cleaning woman but she isn’t coming. I’m considering hiring a college student sitter over the summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:39 AM Flag
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The whole thing is super strange. Reminds you that there are many crazy people in this city. I have a dog who I sometimes let off leash, if someone points it out I put the dog on leash and move on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:07 PM Flag
[ - ] "Karen" incident exploding on twitter . . . 139 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 AM Flag
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dog walker? I saw something about that maybe on daily mail? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:28 AM Flag
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Yep. I bet she posts here, lol. She was horrible. if you watch the video she makes the call to the police and sounds like she is in imminent danger, so manipulative of her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:31 AM Flag
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Evil woman. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:40 AM Flag
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I get she was in a stressful situation but that was beyond. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:23 PM Flag
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OMG she is awful! "Central Park Karen" lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:40 AM Flag
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Listen, this woman was wrong but the man admitted baiting her. When she wouldn't put her dog on the leash, he said if you are going to do what you want, then I will too and you won't like it. He then proceeded to call her dog with treats he has in his pocket. Who the hell knows at that point what his intentions are. Plus, he doesn't have a dog but walks around with dog treat he admitted he uses when people won't leash their dogs because they get afraid of a stranger feeding them treats. He is an asshole and she is a racist. There is a reason he didn't tape from the beginning . He was threatening to her. That said, calling the police and repeatedly saying he was threatening her was an racist move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 PM Flag
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I don't care what petty bicker-fight got them to the point of escalation - they're probably both peak NYC in that regard. But the way she intentionally and wontonly manipulated the situation by weaponizing his being "African American" is beyond evil. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:51 PM Flag
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I disagree. Dog people think they own everything. If you choose to own a dog in NYC, you have to be aware that there are non-dog friendly spaces. People invested in those spaces, like bird watchers, have a right to insist people abide by the posted / legal rules. She was clearly in the wrong. If there weren't so many dog owners violating the clearly posted rules and unwilling to leash their dogs when first asked, the bird watcher wouldn't be carrying around dog treats. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:03 PM Flag
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She could have called 911 and reported unauthorized treats offered to her dog. You sound foolish [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:15 PM Flag
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I agree with all of his very safe tactics. She was breaking the law. He was lawfully doing what he could to deal with it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 07:07 PM Flag
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Knowing how blacks are treated, people like this should be prosecuted. It's not funny, it's evil. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:42 AM Flag
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np: This is the thing - I, first of all, *cannot stand* people who unleash their dogs in areas where they have to be leashed, it is so, so selfish and rude and frankly dangerous, and also, while I didn't watch the video, if she is lying to 911 and saying the man threatened her when he didn't, that is also completely wrong and dangerous. But I also want people to stop trying to meme this incidents and be like "Look! It's Karen! Share my video on Twitter! Share! Make Karen #3,417 go viral!" - it trivializes everything, makes it into a dumb game and doesn't do anything to promote police accountability, which is the real problem here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:16 AM Flag
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np: agreed. this is not "idiotic", it's a terroristic threat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:25 AM Flag
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Maybe watch the video before commenting then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:44 AM Flag
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No thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:55 AM Flag
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^I've already read that nothing of bad consequence happened to the guy involved, so that's good, but then why does the video need oxygen at this point? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:57 AM Flag
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That's because both people left. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:04 PM Flag
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He did say things that were threatening. I think both these people made mistakes here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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He said she wouldn't like what he was going to do, in response to her not wanting to leash her dog. I don't think that's a threat. His tone was non-threatening. She was a jerk. I'm sorry her life is ruined bc of it, but if you find yourself asking someone not to film you rather than just walking away, you're probably in the wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:06 PM Flag
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np: I think what happened here is that he meant that dog owners usually hate it when strangers try to give their dog treats, because it demonstrates that they don't have as much control over their dog as they claim to. Hence, she won't like it when he demonstrates that she has no control over her dog and should have it leashed. I think he may have had a protocol for dealing with people whose dogs are off leash but she didn't know that. I think she is unstable and interpreted it differently. I don't believe she was truly terrified because she didn't leave the area ASAP and easily could have. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:39 PM Flag
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No, he didn't. He wasn't moving toward her, brandishing a weapon or saying anything menacing. After he said, "you won't like what I'm going to do," SHE approached HIM and said "stop filming me." So, she clearly wasn't feeling threatened based on anything he had said to her until that point. She also had a dog with her, which makes her in a safer position and him in an unsafe position. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 07:11 PM Flag
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Her name is all over the Internet. I wonder if she’ll lose her job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:50 AM Flag
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FT tweeted that she’s been placed on administrative leave [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:12 AM Flag
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She's an idiot [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:00 AM Flag
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Well I guess enough people contacted the shelter about the poor dog she was choking, and they tweeted that she surrendered the dog. Apparently her IG feed was about all these ner death experiences of her dog. Hope she's having a horrible evening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:04 AM Flag
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this sounds like a mentally ill person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:16 AM Flag
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Perhaps. But she may also be someone who's not functioning at their best during a time of prolonged stress. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:07 PM Flag
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I'm pretty sure 911 to get a black man thrown in jail is on my de stressing card. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:32 PM Flag
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that is so sad. i hope the dog finds a good home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:40 AM Flag
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Seriously -- you're worried about the dog? Not the man who was reported to police, completely unjustly, for nothing? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:07 PM Flag
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Um, I'm responding to a statement about the dog. My response to the overall situation was OMG, what a crazy, terrible person this is and how sad for the gentleman. I can have multiple thoughts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:25 PM Flag
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I didn't understand the thing he said about the dog treats he had. What did he mean by that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:08 AM Flag
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I was wondering about that too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:09 AM Flag
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That was a very strange remark. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:11 AM Flag
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Yeah, there are a couple of things about this that are very strange. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:17 AM Flag
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Like what? He was trying to prove a point that leashing the dog is important. As soon as he said he had treats, the dog started going towards him. He explained that on Facebook. So weird that people want to find excuses for this woman. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:57 AM Flag
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I'm not making excuses. She sounds like a nut. But I'm curious about what the dog treats he mentioned were. What exactly is your interest in this? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:58 AM Flag
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The same interest that you have? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:01 AM Flag
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Are you saying he goes to the park armed with treats to demonstrate to owners why they need to use leashes? It sounds obsessive on his part but maybe he had a bad experience with an unleashed dog. Do you see how I'm not actually defending her role in this? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:30 AM Flag
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I'm not defending her, but seriously I would think he's going to poison my pet. He told her she wasn't going to like what he was going to do. What the h*** is that?!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:53 PM Flag
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Yeah, I could say more about that too. I'm sure this is the cue for the OR to say "STOP TAKING HER SIDE", which I'm not as a normal, non-crazy person would have left if she was truly frightened. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:31 PM Flag
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NP: I agree. It's easy to take his side at first, especially when we're told she's a racist and a "Karen" but I would feel concerned if a man in the park told me I wasn't going to like what he was going to do. Any man of any race. Frankly, even if it was a woman saying it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:55 PM Flag
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Some people are HIGHLY allergic and could DIE from exposure to dogs. Owners HAVE to put their pets on leashes in public areas. This is as bad if not worse than the being above wearing masks in public nonsense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 PM Flag
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I've already said that she was 100% wrong to have the dog unleashed in that area and should have left. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:49 PM Flag
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Come on. You know damn well he wasn't being friendly.he said you are not going to like what I do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 PM Flag
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You are what is wrong with society. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:40 PM Flag
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NP: No, you are just trying to see this in one way and ignoring some of the things he said. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:58 PM Flag
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He’s a birder. He keeps dog treats with him to illustrate a point to irresponsible dog owners. It’s not that weird. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:07 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:32 PM Flag
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He was threatening her and said on Facebook that he said You can do what you want and I will do what I want and you won't like it. He then started calling her dog over and trying to give him dog treats. He has no dog and said he uses them to force dog owners to put their dogs on leashes by implying that they may dogs sick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 PM Flag
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This situation is complicated. He is not threatening her safety as she says he is. Though the thing with the dog treats is disturbing. The way he is filming her adds to the stress of the situation and we don't know how things started before he began filming, though I can imagine he wants evidence if it's her word against his. Her description of the man's race is also a way to identify him. I agree with him that the dog should be leashed, but there's a lot going on here. The rush to turn this into a viral video and call her a "Karen" is really not helping. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:46 PM Flag
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He said, "I'm going to do what I want and you're not going to like it." This thing just escalated in crazy ways from both people, I think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:51 PM Flag
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+1. The dog walker's behavior is not defensible but I also think this guy and his sister really, REALLY wanted to get a viral video out of this. I also second what you said that on the one hand, I could see filming this to have evidence that she wasn't in danger and could have just left but on the other hand, they were filming her while baiting her into a confrontation, which is a whole other thing and I don't like how this is becoming normalized, especially when the person being filmed seems to not be compos mentis, which I think is the case here (and yes, I feel the same way when I see viral videos of people of other races who seem to be unwell). I would be more firmly in his camp if all he'd been doing is asking her to please leash the dog or leave. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:07 PM Flag
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He did ask her to leash the dog or leave. She refused. That's when he offered the dog treats. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:10 PM Flag
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That's why I said "if all he'd been doing." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:37 PM Flag
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It's pretty clear. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 07:12 PM Flag
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I'm white and you're black so I'm going to call the police to come and shoot you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:11 AM Flag
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Exactly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:13 PM Flag
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In time of pandemic, let's not blame 45 or the other (white men) people in charge whose lack of leadership has forced us into quarantine. Let's just all unload on random white women. Sexist scapegoating at its finest! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:58 AM Flag
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Did you watch the video? This wasn't sexism at all - it was absolutely racism. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:44 AM Flag
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I'm literally a white, middle-aged Karen, but that Karen totally deserves this--it was blatant racism. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:50 AM Flag
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You clearly didn't watch the video?? This woman called the cops and said a black man threatened her life when he only asked her to leash her dog in CP. Sexism is not even remotely involved. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:50 AM Flag
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IA she's a racist but I'm curious - do you think he and his sister would have felt comfortable filming and having this interaction with, let's say, a white guy built like a body-builder? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:15 PM Flag
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The answer to that question has zero bearing on this issue or on what Karen did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:50 PM Flag
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IA, it doesn't make her actions any more excusable. I also don't believe that this guy in particular was actually going to harm her dog. But, relevant or not, what is your answer? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:54 PM Flag
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^I'm also going to mention that I think he seems like a smart guy who knew at that point that he was dealing with a crazy person, and drew this interaction out to get good video. (I also think she has a mental disorder of some kind and was not actually scared, and also shouldn't own a dog.) I don't even necessarily think he's a sexist, but I do think he and his sister in particular would not have prolonged this kind of confrontation with someone who was bigger and stronger than them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:58 PM Flag
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I think there is a difference in the way you'd react to someone you may feel is more likely to instigate a physical confrontation, but I also do feel like taking a video of the interaction is the way to go in either situation in case the police did arrive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:52 PM Flag
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pp: Yes, I could see why he wanted it for documentation of the encounter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:59 PM Flag
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^To show that he wasn't really threatening her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:59 PM Flag
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Hi Karen [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:29 AM Flag
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Hey Donnie Douchebag [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 08:47 AM Flag
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Touched a nerve, I see. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:40 AM Flag
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Lamest stock response [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:06 PM Flag
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"Donnie Douchebag" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:16 PM Flag
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Can we just not take every situation and turn it into a partisan issue? JFC [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:21 PM Flag
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Are you for real? You sound like a F***** moron! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:44 PM Flag
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She was placed on administrative leave by her employer. Made my day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:12 PM Flag
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I just googled it and have no sympathy for her, but, while we agree that this crisis is bringing out the worst in many people, why did her boss have to get involved? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:28 PM Flag
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Because actions have consequences and her blatant racism is wrong and they don’t want racist employees representing them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:43 PM Flag
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because when you work for a company you represent them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:49 PM Flag
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This is SUCH an American belief [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 PM Flag
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wait, we live in America right? Are you in America? Well then SUCH an American belief matters in this situation because it took place in America. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:33 PM Flag
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I'm not sure I believe you'd employ that philosophy in other situations. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:36 PM Flag
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It doesn't matter. I was only responding for this particular situation. If I work for a company and my name is associated with the company I am a representative. Just as if I taught at a school or university. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:45 PM Flag
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And where does she work? I assume you've been trying to find her on social media and make great contributions to society from your couch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:50 PM Flag
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we know. the news told us all last night. Arthur Anderson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 06:09 PM Flag
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I'm sorry, but what she did was very clearly not on company time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 PM Flag
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^^I'm not defending her: she could have gotten him shot by mistake. But I think her company rep, who wasn't there, is wrong to substitute its judgment for the police, who were there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:47 PM Flag
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Well I guess Arthur Anderson doesn't agree with you. And it's not the first company who has put an employee on leave or terminated someone for off hours antics. I'm not saying I agree. It's just what happened. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:48 PM Flag
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Companies feel obligated to react strongly to these incidents. This whole thing just isn't as simple as people want to make it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:00 PM Flag
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This is why they do background checks and if you’ve committed any crime or have been incarcerated because they want to know you’ve been a good citizen off hours. This is par for the course especially now with social media [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:01 PM Flag
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It's about to be on company time if she gets charged with a false 911 call. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:34 PM Flag
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If there was a toxic racist employee at my company, I would want them out. Clients wouldn't want to deal with them. I'm glad her company agreed, it's a very easy call. You're not entitled to a job and I doubt that she was bringing some mad skills to compensate for her toxic personality. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:34 PM Flag
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Nothing about this situation should make your day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:04 PM Flag
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np- I agree. It highlights how screwed up our society is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:19 PM Flag
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This woman literally put that mans life in danger. He could have been shot by the police. What a vile woman who deserves all the negativity she’s getting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:29 PM Flag
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He did say things to her that sounded threatening. You're not going to like what I do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:59 PM Flag
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He kept a safe distance away from her the entire time and never showed himself to physically threaten her. I think it was clear that that remark was about him recording it and posting it online, which he has every right to do and SHOULD do, because had the police come, he could have been shot on sight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:16 PM Flag
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You are escalating this discussion here needlessly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:47 PM Flag
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I don't think his remark was clear at all. If a man, any man, or even a woman, said that to me in and isolated area of the park, it would set off alarm bells. This situation is not so simple as people want to make it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:51 PM Flag
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Yeah, Karen, really threatening especially when a BLACK man is threatening you with dog treats. Gotta call the cops ASAP! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:36 PM Flag
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People say that kind of thing all the time in an argument. He did no wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:47 PM Flag
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She is a horrible human being. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:45 PM Flag
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If I said You're not going to like what I do, in the middle of a confrontation, I would assume that means something bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:05 PM Flag
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Dear lord give it a rest. You are justifying Just like the men in GA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:34 PM Flag
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Yes, except for the whole murder in the middle of the street part, this situation is really the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:39 PM Flag
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Oh dear, now we see why your responses are so unhelpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:44 PM Flag
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So would you go to a racial threat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:37 PM Flag
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https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/central-park-karen-says-life-is-being-destroyed-over-viral-video/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:33 PM Flag
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When I saw this, I wondered how I would have reacted. I wouldn't have a dog off leash in the first place, but I also would feel pretty triggered by someone telling me what to do. So I think I probably would have behaved badly. BUT. I would not invoke race or LIE to the police!! That's what makes this so awful. Even at our worst, most stressed out, I would hope most of us wouldn't even think to go there. Yet, here she was, a successful woman living in NYC, supposedly a liberal place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:34 PM Flag
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Agree. She has now sent the obligatory I’m not a racist apology and how her life is being ruined. Boo hoo! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:39 PM Flag
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She said one thing and her life is now ruined. Seriously. You don't need to tell me why what she said is a problem and why. But her life is now ruined. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:46 PM Flag
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Her life isn’t ruined. This will go away with the next public outrage. Police aren’t pressing charges and her office will reinstate her when things blow over. But people need to realize ones words and actions have repercussions. She will get a pass because she’s a white woman. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:16 PM Flag
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This. Plus, she was perfectly comfortable with ruining someone else's life through that phone call. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:29 PM Flag
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She was ready to ruin someone else's life -- she had no reason to go to race and she did. She deserves to have her life ruined. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:37 PM Flag
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And yet, her life is the only one of the two involved that will be ruined. And no, this will not ever go away for her. She did wrong. Yes, she did wrong. And he also did wrong. He threatened her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:11 PM Flag
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GTFOOH [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:43 PM Flag
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Zero equivalence between what the two did. That you can’t see that is your race privilege [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:46 PM Flag
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No, he didn't threaten her. There is no proportionality to what she did. She very explicitly threatened him in a way that has historically cost black lives. She is not going to die. She deserves to have her livelihood taken away. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:54 PM Flag
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She said ONE thing? She weaponized her race and gender to call the cops on a black man. She can go to hell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:44 PM Flag
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Has anyone mentioned how odd it is that they share the same last name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:44 PM Flag
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Yes, weird coincidence [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:57 PM Flag
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This whole thing seems very strange. He just starts filming part of it... she says "excuse me" as she is fumbling to call the police, as if she is apologizing to him for taking so long... Idk seems oddly staged. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:56 PM Flag
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Idk. Her life is in shambles right now. Why would they do that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:17 PM Flag
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Why would who do what? She deserves to rot in hell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:39 PM Flag
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She's saying she doesn't think the video was staged. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:08 PM Flag
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Thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:38 PM Flag
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"an African American male with a bike helmet" because yeah most people who want to attack others wear their bike helmets.... I hope the police were laughing at her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:58 PM Flag
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For those defending her, just watch the new video of the Minneapolis man choked to death by the police. They were called bc the grocery store thought he was writing a bad check. They had him in a chokehold for five minutes even when he said he couldn't breathe. So when a white woman threatens to call the cops and says "I will tell them an African American man is threatening me", she knows what is likely to happen and what exactly her veiled threat is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:30 PM Flag
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Yes, and when a man says to a woman in a solitary setting in the park "You're not going to like what I do" that is serious, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:13 PM Flag
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Seriously, shame on you for continuing with your racist bs. Then again, people like you have no shame [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:38 PM Flag
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Except that she called the police after she saw the thing he was going to do that she wouldn't like, namely record her. Stop justifying her behavior. She lied about being threatened, complete with fake white women tears. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:43 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:39 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.26.20, 06:00 PM Flag
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Don't you think if she was truly afraid for her life she would have run away? Would you stand and argue with someone who you thought was about to do you harm? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:13 PM Flag
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Vile people [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:14 PM Flag
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The Minneapolis police literally killed the black man at minute 4.10 of the video. Whaooooooww!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:42 PM Flag
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Her company fired her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 07:07 PM Flag
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I watched the video and read the script. This woman used race against this man and it's wrong, no excuses and no question about it. He was *also* manipulative. He can ask someone to leash their dog (and to call the proper authorities if they don't), but it's not his prerogative to enforce the rules--and certainly not by scaring someone by implying that you're going to harm their dog. And let's be honest, that was the whole point--make her think her dog will come to some harm (via the dog treats) if she doesn't leash it. And that's manipulative--and threatening. We're debating whose behavior was worse (her's), but neither of them should be proud of how they acted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 07:11 PM Flag
[ - ] Should I buy these? I've been trying tone down the online shopping and have been doing a good job, but I think they are so cute! With a white tank for around the house, running, strength training and maybe even tennis on the public courts. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 AM Flag
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https://www.sweatybetty.com/us/power-workout-leggings-5056283402210.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 AM Flag
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whatever, they are leggings. They look like a lot of other leggings.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:35 AM Flag
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Ty. No more leggings! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:40 AM Flag
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If you need UB to decide then the answer is no. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 08:03 AM Flag
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Do you really need UB's help to not buy ugly leggings for $100? Ok, I'm in -- please don't buy these! They are ugly and expensive! You will regret it if you do! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 PM Flag
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Kind of expensive for leggings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:32 PM Flag
[ - ] What are most people hearing from their jobs about potential offices reopening? I am shocked that my company sent an email last week saying they are expecting everyone to return in mid-July once they are permitted to reopen. Don't understand why they are making everyone come back when 80% of employees can work just fine from home. It's a huge company with at least 2,500 employees in our HQ and we sit on huge open floors. Apparently we won't be able to have in-person meetings... so really, what's the point! 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 AM Flag
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We are home until October and after that some kind of TBD phase in with consideration for employee preference. I don't expect that I'll ever chose to go back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:21 AM Flag
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What kind of company do you work for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 AM Flag
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A mid sized non profit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:30 AM Flag
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My office is rearranging cubicles and going to bring people back in shifts, one week at the office one week at home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:03 AM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:36 AM Flag
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Mine is looking at a plan like this. People would only be there in person a couple of times a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:42 AM Flag
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WFH at least until end of 2020, then some alternative reopening. Anecdotally 2 days in the office, 3 wfh or something similar once the office reopens. Priority to those who can’t work from home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:19 AM Flag
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I’ve heard that many offices will start opening in July, with a plan to gradually bring most people back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:33 AM Flag
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We can’t live like this for an extended period of time. Schools will also open in September. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:38 AM Flag
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our office said no consideration to open till sept due to kids, but likely will follow suit of tech companies and look to an early 2021 reopening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:42 AM Flag
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DH works for a bank in midtown, he's been told that he likely won't be back in the office in 2020. I'm freelance, usually work in a group of around 10, the earliest I am hearing about work coming back is late June. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:46 AM Flag
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I *have* to go into the office this week. Not the whole week, but still! We are not an essential business, by any means, and we are in NYC, ipso facto, the business should not be expecting workers to come in. I am PO'd beyond belief. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:44 PM Flag
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Companies will want people back by July. They pay a fortune for the offices and want them filled again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 PM Flag
[ - ] What's your fave/least fave Jane Austen book? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:16 AM Flag
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Fave: Persuasion. Least: Mansfield park. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:20 AM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:43 AM Flag
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does not get better than Darcy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:33 AM Flag
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Least fave: Northanger Abbey. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:00 AM Flag
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Favorite between P&P and Emma, probably P&P has the edge. Least favorite, Northanger Abbey. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 10:49 AM Flag
[ - ] If you know couples that were together for several years before getting married or decided not to get married at all, do you know what their reasoning was? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:15 AM Flag
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My friends got pregnant after dating 6 months. It was too soon to get married for both of them. They were old enough that they weren't interested in letting the pregnancy go. They chose to live together and move forward, but not rush marriage. When their daughter was 4, she said she'd like them to get married. They went to city hall and did the deed. They're doing really great. I think they were just both old enough that marriage didn't super matter to them. But they were very happy together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 AM Flag
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DH and I were together much longer than I would have liked before we got married. He was very afraid of commitment and was worried that I would want him to change/demand more from him in marriage. I asked him what kind of idiot would get married for good to someone who was not exactly what they wanted? Now he's said to me that even though he knows all of the above to be true he can't even remember feeling that way because he's so happy with what we have. He's an introvert that takes a lot of time alone, I'm an extravert who is happy to hang out with friends and when we are together we have a great time. Quarantine has been almost fun. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 AM Flag
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DH and dated almost 5 years before we got engaged. The we had a small but wonderful ceremony and dinner. It was because I was apprehensive about getting married for a 2nd time since my 1st marriage was bad. DC was 4 when we met a so I wanted to make sure that worked, too. We’ll be married 5 years this summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 AM Flag
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DH and I were together 5 years before we got married. We were 22 when we met. I would have liked to be engaged at 25 and married at 26. We got engaged and married at 27 because DH dragged his feet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 AM Flag
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I think marriage is kind of silly and was in no rush. DH wanted to get married before we had kids so he proposed after 8 years together. We've been married for 12 years now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:49 AM Flag
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We met at 26, engaged at 32, married at 33, now together 15 years. It was frustrating at the time but looking back it was the right timing because we both had to be ready. he wanted to be further along in his career, knowing pressure would come for a house and kids quickly, which it did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:59 AM Flag
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DH and I were dating for 8yrs before getting engaged. We met very young (I was freshman in college) so it sort of made sense. I would have preferred to get engaged maybe 2yrs earlier but in the end we have a happy marriage so all is well that ends well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:26 AM Flag
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We dated 7 years before we were married. We met in college and both wanted to live on our own first. We knew we would get married so there wasn't any stress about it. We got engaged at 27. Still married 20 plus years later. Our friends were together a long time and he didn't want to get married but she did. He was always a procrastinator and I thought he was making a big mistake. They broke up. Turns out she was pregnant and she said he could be as involved as he wanted and he proposed. They are very happy and he has not regrets. Another friend dated someone for years but was never really sure. She was getting older and they got married. They got divorced 4 years later. The amount of time doesn't matter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:26 AM Flag
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My dh and I dated for 6 years in our 20s before getting married at 30. We lived in separate apartments. Dating is fun.arriage is serious. We were in no rush. 20 years later we are still married but with both of us wfh w kids ft I would love to have my own apt to escape to right about now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:39 PM Flag
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Together for 7 years, married for 20+. DH was scared, his parents' marriage was terrible (FIL was a serial cheater who had left MIL for OW, but was pretending he hadn't yet so still in the house, MIL was needy and passive-aggressive, putting her own needs first and pimping DH for info about who FIL was with). Our anniversary was this weekend, DH said he's glad I married him. Waiting was right for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:30 PM Flag
[ - ] Our ped sent a mass email with a hot take - basically if there's a resurgence, NYC will be the safest place to be as prepared. what do you think? (he may just be trying to be nice) 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:15 AM Flag
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Sure, we'll be more prepared, but once again it will spread more here and we'll have many more cases in total because of the way we live here so close together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:19 AM Flag
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This. And we won't have even had a nice summer to enjoy life like everyone in the burbs is doing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:21 AM Flag
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Don’t you have to be the most prepared because you’ll likely have the most cases? Why does a town with 500 people in the middle of Montana even need to be prepared? Highly unlikely it will be an issue [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:18 AM Flag
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Cohen? I thought his email was so flippant and stupid. And then they changed their tune about testing and are now doing antibodies for anyone who wants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 10:50 AM Flag
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np: I use and like Tribeca Peds for a lot of reasons... he's not one of them lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:02 PM Flag
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Also, immunity. No, we won't have herd immunity, but with >20% and close to 40% in hard-hit areas, this will make a difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:14 AM Flag
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This! With 20 to 40(!!!) percent immunity throughout the city, our second surge can never be anywhere close to as big as our first. Other states with 4% immunity can easily have giant surges if it comes back full force [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:47 AM Flag
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This is why the temporary hospital in Brooklyn was taken down this week (along with the ship, Javit's Center and temporary hospital in Queens earlier this month. All of the leaders know that it won't be needed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:50 AM Flag
[ - ] we are at a hill school and our bus company just announced they aren't running this fall. the hill schools have to figure out bus service right? this company has been around forever... I'm nervous the companies feel like they won't be able to provide buses that will comply with all the cleaning and social distancing. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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They may decide it isn't worth the liability as they know they'll be sued by someone at some point when their kid gets the virus. But how they'll stay afloat without taking on schools, I don't know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:17 AM Flag
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Yes, there will be a bus company. Honestly, though, I think a lot of parents will drive their kids, or 2 or 3 kids together with a driver [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 AM Flag
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And with parents working from home, those with houses in CT may decide to stay in CT and drive their kids to school, especially if one parent doesn't work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:25 AM Flag
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op: driving isn't an option for us... and we are new to the school and don't know other families to coordinate a driver with. we don't live uptown and never considered the bus wouldn't run. We are still holding our spot at a D2 middles school - will a hill school let us out of a contract if they don't have a bus company? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:43 PM Flag
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There will 100% be a bus. I just think the school is going to contract with a smaller company because less people signed up for the bus for the 2020-2021 school year. It's not a liability issue. It's not a cleaning issue. Supertrans is still running for HM because enough families signed up for the bus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:40 PM Flag
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ok, thank you for this info! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 05:21 PM Flag
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I think families aren't willing to commit to a bus contract without knowing what the school situation will be. If kids are only going a few days they will drive them. And many just don't want to commit to anything at this point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:43 AM Flag
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they don't want to take on the liability with a bunch of litigious parents [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:45 AM Flag
[ - ] Going to an open house for a day camp next week that is entirely outdoors - no indoor facilities no food on site (everything packed in). An older child of mine went a few years ago and loved it, but it was pretty rustic. Now that seems appealing... assuming I am in a place with lower infections than LI, NYC, NJ and the NY burbs of CT, what would you want to see at this camp to feel comfortable? I don't think they plan to have kids in masks. no touching between campers? what kind of staff to camper ratio? 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:07 AM Flag
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depends on age of kid. our contractor 'surprised' us with his 5 year old yesterday as he had to do something in our yard and i had to oversee the 5 yo plus my 4 and 6 year olds and make sure they kept apart and it was hellish. also they didn't. then i got a migraine. so I would say i counsellor per child if they are little! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:09 AM Flag
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op: this is a group that's going into 2nd grade. still tough I'm sure but also my kid totally gets it at this point. many of the other's do too. needs reminders for sure though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:14 AM Flag
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my 6 yo is going into 2nd grade and he 100% gets it but 100% immediately forgot 'it' once excited by playing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:16 AM Flag
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op: right. that's why I think small groups and forced distancing activities (think archery and corn hole and kayaking) will be key [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:18 AM Flag
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How would the kids get to the camp? If a bus, that is what makes me nervous. When the swim there are no changing rooms? And how are bathrooms sanitized regularly since it's thinks like door handles and sink handles that can be filled with germs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:10 AM Flag
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op: I would drive dc - it's 10-15 mins away. they said no bus service this summer. there are changing rooms and I agree - that's a good question how would they change. the bathrooms are porta-pottys. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:12 AM Flag
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Port a potty’s? Gross and unsanitary [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:26 PM Flag
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Send your poor kid and let them have fun. The fact is you willing probably be interacting with more kids over the summer as the restrictions loosen. I would rather do that at a place with a vested interest. Only question I would have is will all kids be tested? Will you be informed if there is a kid with a fever or other symptoms [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:28 AM Flag
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We are planning to send our kids, youngest will just have turned 6, to a similar camp in CT toward the end of summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 10:52 AM Flag
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op: yeah, I figured I could give the camp a few weeks to get going and maybe join in mid-july [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:41 PM Flag
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Our camp is discussing small "pods" of children that can stay together all day throughout each activity and play with each other without distancing. This will allow for easy contact tracing if someone were to get sick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:53 AM Flag
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op: I would be comfortable with this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:40 PM Flag
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No. Every time it rains camps will be shut down. No reprieve in a heat wave,No thanks ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:26 PM Flag
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op: well, there are two huge lakes, so on truly hot days they swim a lot. Also, it's rare it gets over 85 here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:40 PM Flag
[ - ] Once restrictions start easing up how much will you change your behavior and what risks are you willing to take or not take? I think we will let our kids see friends/do play dates outdoors and we will have our nanny and cleaning lady come back. Will start going to stores vs. just ordering everything online. Won't be eating at a restaurant anytime soon (at least indoors) and won't take any public transportation. Also don't think we will fly or stay in a hotel before Christmas at the earliest. Not sure yet how I feel about hair and nail salons, although desperate for a root touch up and pedicure... just don't think it's worth the risk. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:05 AM Flag
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I'm thinking of letting my cleaning person come 2 weeks from now. In NYC. She'd wear a mask and gloves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:07 AM Flag
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I'm in CT and having my cleaning lady come this week. We will leave and spend the day at my parents' house (they aren't there). I am counting the minutes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:08 AM Flag
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I'll probably avoid stores as much as possible, no movies, cleaning lady is back. I'll see the trainer outdoors until we see if there is a resurgence. I'll go to derm for top up, but i'm more worried about haircuts just because of the duration. I might get a cut and let the color grow out. I'd love a pedicure too, but I'm thinking we might be in and out of this for a while and I don't want to get back into things that require frequent maintenance. I can't picture flying until at least next summer. No restaurants, but maybe patio drinks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:09 AM Flag
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Zero risks. We are sequestering. All we will do differently is occasional socializing six feet apart with masks. It's literally not worth dying to get a haircut or have your nails painted. Do you want to be that story? My mom died because she wanted a pedicure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:09 AM Flag
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I’m sorry about your mother. But many people take a different view and that’s okay: what if we don’t have a vaccine for 2-3 years? Can you stay sequestered that long? The goal of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don’t get overwhelmed and let us prepare in two ways 1) allow hospitals to learn the most effective ways of treating patients and how to protect their staff and 2) learn what public health measures can keep the reproduction number lower eg masks, hand washing etc. But after that, we need to figure out how to live with the new normal. Especially if you believe the antibody testing that 20 percent of people in NYC have been exposed, the death rate for COVID is very low for people under 60 without pre-existing conditions. I fear mass lockdowns aren’t actually protecting the most vulnerable. Why aren’t we setting up free delivery services for older people? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 11:39 AM Flag
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I would only do things I had to do. have to fly and see my parents in europe so would likely find a way to do that. And ideally school is something that warrants some risk. maybe restaurant outside. i guess playdates tho a lot of touching happens there. honestly i think we have to focus on things that let us open the economy back up so play dates are low on my list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:12 AM Flag
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I am going to let my hair go gray. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:18 AM Flag
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just did mine - turned out pretty nearly perfect. still looking forward to going back to colorist, but was pleased I could pull off on own under circumstances. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:21 AM Flag
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I’ll act the same as I did pre Covid. At this point I’ve been out and about a ton anyway and haven’t caught it so and I want to live as normal a life as possible [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:41 AM Flag
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I don't really see much changing. DH really wants a haircut and he's a quick 10 minute buzz kind of guy. I feel no need to shop in a store or be in a restaurant. I would like to go to the library but I think those will be low on the list of reopenings. I already go to the grocery store, liquor store and nursery with my mask and gloves. No cleaners, no sitters but we don't have those at the country house anyway. We're going to get antibody testing next week and if we're positive we might start spending time with some good friends of our who tested positive. Told MIL again today that we will not be visiting her this summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:55 AM Flag
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Just a reminder that antibodies doesn't mean you are immune. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:58 AM Flag
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It doesn’t mean you aren’t either. Most doctors think it confers some degree of Immunity at least in the short term [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:10 PM Flag
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OR--exactly. I'm more comfortable spending time outside, picnicing or swimming with friends who were sick than I am socializing with people who haven't been ill. Maybe it's unfair but that's my comfort level right now. I don't want to get sick or to infect anyone else. We've also all been isolating in the country for nearly two months now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:19 PM Flag
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not going to inside for long of a time with other people beside my family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:02 AM Flag
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Look at this link. Hair Salons are high risk. Outdoor with friends is not. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/05/23/861325631/from-camping-to-dining-out-heres-how-experts-rate-the-risks-of-14-summer-activit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 03:32 AM Flag
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Hair salons are medium to high risk that can be mitigated if both parties wear masks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:22 AM Flag
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My work is freelance so I am around different people all the time. When I go back to work I plan on wearing a mask and/or face shield, depending. I don't see myself eating in a restaurant for quite some time but I would feel safe getting a coffee or quick bite to go. I'm a little worried about seeing friends inside still, as I commute for work and will be working alongside many strangers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 04:48 AM Flag
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Will continue to avoid stores, salons, and restaurants. Will continue to have socially distanced walks and outdoor visits with friends and family. I really don't miss shopping, the salon, or social events. I do miss theatre and work trips to NYC. But I also know I'm very lucky to have access to a private beach, which I will take full advantage of this summer. As long as I can see my closest friends and family and spend time outside, I'm good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 12:46 PM Flag
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No playdates. No need to shop in a store. No cleaning lady. No WAY on salons. Waiting for first post-restriction life to settle down and then will reconsider. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:07 PM Flag
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Getting hair done in 2 weeks, cleaning lady will also come back in 2 weeks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:27 PM Flag
[ - ] Is there anyplace to order cleaning/disinfecting wipes at this point? Clorox (or the equivalent) or the 75% alcohol wipes? Anyplace to order hand sanitizer? Getting tired of looking through listings on Amazon that seem to be scams or products that may not be what they are described. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:04 AM Flag
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Costco has Kirkland brand disinfecting wipes, 2-day delivery. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:06 AM Flag
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Do you have to be a member? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:07 AM Flag
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Website says Out of Stock. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:11 AM Flag
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I'm seeing them in stock, but it may be based on zip code. https://www.costco.com/kirkland-signature-disinfecting-wipes%2c-variety-pack%2c-304-count.product.100413817.html. Yes, you do have to be a member. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:24 AM Flag
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I have had luck getting both Lysol and Clorox brands on Walmart.com but you have to check religiously, like 5x per day. The come in stock and then are sold out an hour later. Where are you located? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:13 AM Flag
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Brooklyn [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:42 AM Flag
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hand sanitizer is everywhere. at whole foods, drug stores ( not purell) and i ordered several types on line. just google andyou will find tons. wipes are tough [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:37 AM Flag
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Just spray diluted bleach onto a paper towel or even an old rag. You don't need special wipes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 01:56 AM Flag
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I don't like using bleach for a lot of things. Always seem to end up ruining clothes with bleach spots. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 02:52 PM Flag
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am in the minority for wondering what on earth everyone is sanitizing constantly with wipes? we wash our hands and have sanitizer if we go to a store to pick something up or takeout, but i mean are people wiping down their whole apartment? where are you going that is so dangerous? if you take your shoes off when you get it, wash your hands immediately isnt that sufficient? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.20, 06:19 PM Flag
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