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[ - ] SO of Vanderbilt rape case. Ok so if the breaking down of the door didn't happen, then this whole thing might have just passed silently with no consequences. The girl didn't remember, and the guys would have gone scot free. 32 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:57 PM Flag
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What breaking down on the door ? [ Reply | More
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The only reason this thing was caught was because the idiots broke down the dorm door and the campus security had to go back and look at serveillance film and that is where they first saw the men dragging in an unconscious woman and they sent the tape to police (good for them that they went straight to police and not the college) [ Reply | More
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But lets say security didn't get involved. This woman would have woken up the next day, known something terrible happened, and reported it. And then the security and police would have reviewed the cameras anyway. [ Reply | More
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Well, if she had reported it to the college, they may have swept it under the rug. [ Reply | More
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this [ Reply | More
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NP No, she didn't know. She was horribly hungover. The guy told her she'd been up puking all night and he'd taken care of her. She believed him, even after security called her. She told him she'd help protect his reputation. [ Reply | More
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This. But wouldn't you be very, very sore and know something happened given the water bottle incident and all the bruising (I guess the bruising could be explained away as tequila wounds, but if someone shoved a bottle up my anus, I'm thinking I'd feel it the next day). [ Reply | More
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How unconscious do you need to be to not feel that? [ Reply | More
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This. That's the scariest part. It's not even like she woke up and was like "Wow, I have strange memories of this happening to me." She wasn't just blacked out drunk where she might have some bits of consciousness- they drugged her until she was completely unconscious (then made jokes while raping her that she might wake up, natch.) Even when WATCHING THE VIDEOS it didn't stir up memories, she just knew that it was definitely her in the videos. [ Reply | More
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how is she processing all this information? was it better if she just never knew? would she have had flashbacks? [ Reply | More
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I thought she was just drunk--though I think it sounds like they drugged her. She didn't didn't get checked until a few days later, right? I wonder if whatever it might have been was out of her system. [ Reply | More
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They definitely drugged her. She only had 3 drinks and then passed out cold, though the fact that we're making this distinction proves how silly this topic really is- even if she HAD drank too much, would she have deserved to have been brutally raped, penetrated with foreign objects, and peed on? [ Reply | More
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yup [ Reply | More
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Also, if they hadnt videotaped the incident. The cameras were only in the hallways. So the only thing the security tapes would have shown were people going in and out of the room. [ Reply | More
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and the victim being dragged into the room and then tossed outside. The security cameras also picked up some of the sounds [ Reply | More
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Am I the only one who actually thinks this is an example of the system working well? I mean, the fact that there are guys out there who do things like this is a terrible fact of life. Some small number of men are fucking lunatics who kill, rape, maim, and otherwise terrorize other people. And in this case two of the guys who did that were quickly identified, investigated, prosecuted and convicted, just as they should have been. Is it possible to eradicate rape forever? Sadly, probably not. So the best you can hope for is this kind of proper justice. [ Reply | More
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Agree that Vanderbilt acted responsibly in this care, BUT it's inexcusable that so many people walked by and saw her without helping, the roommate was invited to join and went off to sleep somewhere else without helping, NO one helped or reported it. I would impose some disciplinary action on them all. [ Reply | More
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in a system that works well, bystanders who watch it happen without reporting would be expelled too. [ Reply | More
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Agree 100% [ Reply | More
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Very good point. [ Reply | More
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Well said! [ Reply | More
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Thank god she's alive [ Reply | More
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Yes. The only thing that's scaring me now is that now guys who do this shit will probably murder their victims because of fear of repercussions. That's truly scary. [ Reply | More
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np in this case that wouldn't have "helped." They were caught on video and messed up with their use of technology. [ Reply | More
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Can't help but wonder if this was not a first for the ringleader guy. [ Reply | More
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definitely not. [ Reply | More
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+1 [ Reply | More
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+2 That kid looks like a major asshole. And he's something like 6'6"; he could overpower anyone. [ Reply | More
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The terrifying thing is that there aren't even girls out there who know this happened to them who will now get schools to look deeper into their cases- there may be girls out there with NO recollection whatsoever of this happening to them. [ Reply | More
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Unless there's video, there'd be nothing to go on. But these guys seem to like the "trophy" a video becomes. [ Reply | More
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I'm just so glad the authorities looked so far into this. If you read details of the case, this could have easily been brushed aside. Or they could have just charged the guys with breaking down the door. It's really amazing that this was ever caught. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] What do you do with old laptops and computers? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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We've gotten all of our units at Tekserve. They take back the old ones and recycle what they can. [ Reply | More
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Have a pile of them on the bottom shelf... [ Reply | More
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Me too. I keep thinking someone's going to steal our information. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] So let's say it's Feb 14 and your kid does still not have a K placement. Then what? Other than public, are there schools that take kids late who didn't apply originally? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Maybe masters or Dwight Englewood or rye country day [ Reply | More
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Call parents league and they will have info on schools that may still have spots [ Reply | More
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thank you. First poster--in NYC please. [ Reply | More
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This is what some people in New York City had to do. first poster [ Reply | More
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can you call them without being a member? should i join today? [ Reply | More
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You need to join. [ Reply | More
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They are also very helpful in helping understand the waitlist process. For example, they clarified for me last year that if you get an offer off a waitlist, you do not have to accept on the spot, you ask them to send the contract, and you have until the deadline to accept like everyone else. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Doe ECFS really not give any feedback? Isn't the doa on the board of a preschool or something? Do they give feedback to some connected preschools? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Can you give it up already? Same post multiple times/day each day [ Reply | More
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yes, i posted once late last night but no reply so just posting again. sorry if it overlaps with other posters!! [ Reply | More
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They keep to themselves for the most part, but not totally silent like Collegiate. Your PSD may or may not get feedback, all depends on who your PSD is, want to share that information? [ Reply | More
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I think you answered the question [ Reply | More
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Do you know which PSD's? [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Dh acting mad at me because I fell asleep in dd's bed. I woke up and came into our room at 5 to go back to sleep and he complained, talked, "hugged" (but only to bug me, not in a nice way) me for an hour despite my asking to please try to sleep for another hour. He went so far as to call me a bitch and tell me to shut the fuck up. wtf? He starts out jokey and devolves to this? I told him thanks for dealing with Dd all night (she's sick) while he slept is the only appropriate response, not "youre so mean to me" etc etc. Fucking hating him right now! 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Is this the dh that flicked his wife for going to bed before him? [ Reply | More
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No [ Reply | More
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You need to do something corrective so that won't happen ever again. btdt [ Reply | More
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I just kept asking him to be quiet and please let me rest over and over. Every word I said was more fuel for him to talk about what a bitch I am. Ugh, how did our day just start like this? [ Reply | More
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How do you let your husband call you a bitch? [ Reply | More
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My husband did this once. I made it clear that was the last time. Totally unacceptable especially since you were dealing with a sick child and he slept all night. You need to have a talk with him once the kids go to bed. If he thinks this is acceptable behavior, he needs to be told it's not, and if that doesn't work, it's time for counseling. I'm disgusted with him for you. [ Reply | More
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I have no idea! That was seriously the weirdest exchange we have ever had. So upsetting [ Reply | More
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If it was out of the ordinary, was he talking in his sleep? [ Reply | More
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No. He threw his back out and actually just apologized and said he is starting to understand how chronic pain makes people suicidal :( yikes [ Reply | More
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Oh wow. If that happened to me: divorce. It's a cruel world and if you don't have someone who has your back, thinks you're terrific and would no sooner call you a bitch than he would shoot himself ... you are missing a hell of a lot. Mean? My DH never is. [ Reply | More
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np: After one incident you would immediately go to divorce? Maybe try finding out why he responded that way. [ Reply | More
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^^ I meant that as a general statement, I know OP didn't mention divorce. [ Reply | More
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Sounds like he's the child. [ Reply | More
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he's jealous [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Name Poll for boy : Falcon 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Balloon boy [ Reply | More
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Wasn't that Balloon Boy's name? [ Reply | More
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Oh those losers http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/15/balloon-boy-5-years-later/17327017/ [ Reply | More
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Crest. [ Reply | More
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Yuckity yuck. Don't do this. [ Reply | More
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I think Pigeon is better. Or maybe Vulture. Or Albatross! [ Reply | More
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Nickname Ross [ Reply | More
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Or Albie? [ Reply | More
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I know an Owl and a Kestrel. What is up with these bird names lately? [ Reply | More
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will his bother be The Snowman? [ Reply | More
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^brother [ Reply | More
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I know a Falcon - don't do that to your child [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Is there any industry that MBAs can't fuck up? Medicine, education, government, even the arts- every time MBA consultants and staff get involved these industries go from fields with people who are trying to help others to fields where everything - staff, clients, works of art - are just another widget to be produced and sold as cheaply as possible. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Most idealists have zero business sense. Mr. Hope and Change is in the Oval Office right now. [ Reply | More
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And he saved the country. But I'm sure you disagree. [ Reply | More
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THIS. Unemployment is down, the economy is much better than when he went in. People have health insurance. WTF. [ Reply | More
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BS. I work in IT and I totally agree with OP. We techies innovate and then MBAs destroy. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Does anyone have a link to the top performing elem schools in NYC? I used to have it, but now I can't find it. It has the top scoring schools for ELA 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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http://ny.chalkbeat.org/2014/08/15/ten-top-10s-from-new-york-citys-2014-test-scores/ [ Reply | More
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http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20130819/tribeca/elementary-school-rankings-see-how-your-neighborhood-school-scored [ Reply | More
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http://www.schooldigger.com/go/NY/schoolrank.aspx [ Reply | More
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OP: This is all great! Thank you all so very much. And they say UBers aren't nice.... :) [ Reply | More
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You're welcome. As I posted them I thought to myself, she's going to come on here and say "no this isn't the right one!" [ Reply | More
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Oh, I thought multiple people posted them. Thank you again! Wishing you good karma. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] General Kindergarten question.... We moved to the burbs in a good school district. However, their K is half day. The hours are from 8:30am - 11:20am. I can't believe how short the 1/2 day is! Would you send DC to private where he would go from 8:30-2:30? Or do you think full day is unnecessary for K? This is our 1st child so we're new to this. I'm a SAHM btw. TIA. 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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If the child is young, I think 1/2 day is fine. If the child is already 6 (as are some), a full day would be better. [ Reply | More
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Thx. DC will turn 5 in early June. Principle said they cram a lot into the 1/2 day. Worried DC will be bored after school is out. We have a baby so she will be napping in the afternoon and won't be able to drive older DC around. [ Reply | More
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Do they have an after school program that she could do a couple of days a week? [ Reply | More
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Yes [ Reply | More
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Does the JCC or YMCA pick up for the afternoon [ Reply | More
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My dc did 1/2 day. It's more work for you (whether taking care of dc or finding a nanny) but it was great for them. We signed up for extracurriculars after school with a lot of other kids so I got to know the other moms and they had a very gentle transition to school. It was a lot of running around, but I look back on that time with nostalgia. [ Reply | More
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I did this when my kids were in pre-Kwhen everyone else was in full day pre-K! We went ice-skating the library we had so much fun [ Reply | More
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Can you get a sitter for 2 or 3 afternoons to stay with the baby at home while you take her to some activities in the afternoon? That way everyday is not a long day and it might be fun for both of you. [ Reply | More
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Some schools will put your K on a bus to places that run after K. [ Reply | More
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Are you in Edgemont? Anyway, if you are a SAHM, I think it's fine. I was a single WOHM in Edgemont, and I had my dd stay for an extra year in day care because of the half days. If I had stayed home, I would have had her start in the 1/2 day K. [ Reply | More
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This is summit. Thx! So you think they learn enough in 1/2 day? Any cons? [ Reply | More
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Or - I think they learn plenty. When dd started first grade, everyone seemed to be right up to speed. [ Reply | More
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Can you afford any help? Ask neighbors with older kids, if they have a nanny or aupair who would like to earn some extra money a few afternoons and say with baby. [ Reply | More
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Yes, can afford help [ Reply | More
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Then I would go with this. I nmy opinion, unless you will be keeping kid in private, kid is better off meeting classmates in K [ Reply | More
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Enjoy it. Mom of two elementary kids who wishes I had one going into kindergarten now! [ Reply | More
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Ok, thx! You mean enjoy half day??? [ Reply | More
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Yes [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Hope the Vandy Ringleader gets it up the ass in prison! 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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I have absolutely zero sympathy for him, but you do realize, don't you, that that's not the purpose of prison? [ Reply | More
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No, I didn't imagine that would be government sanctioned. [ Reply | More
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Really? Thanks for the information. [ Reply | More
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What's wrong with anal sex between men? Creepy homophonic weirdo. [ Reply | More
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I'm not talking about consensual sex here, in case that wasn't obvious. I want someone to dominate this hetero asshole. [ Reply | More
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Hey, I'd be even happier if it were a woman but I doubt they'll put him in the women's section. [ Reply | More
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You're the weirdo if you think the majority of men want this. [ Reply | More
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He'll definitely be raped in prison. I would be surprised if he made it through his first night. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Do you know any Tiger moms in real life? What are they like? 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Yes. Chinese. Llm from harvard law. SAHM. [ Reply | More
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Llm? [ Reply | More
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She was a foreign law school grad who came here for her LL.M [ Reply | More
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One stands out: she started in elementary school, hanging around the classroom, then insisting that her DD get pushed ahead a year. Pretty unpleasant to talk to, if you want to call listening to her parenting theories "conversation". [ Reply | More
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I fondly remember the tea plantation I grew up on in the Punjab where we had a two pet tigers and one gave birth to twins... [ Reply | More
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Oh, how cute! [ Reply | More
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Yep. Tiger couple. The mom loves her kids very much, I think she just views catering to emotions as a luxury kids who want to be successful cannot afford. Life is work. They're both self-made and work long hours so kids are scheduled every minute. They believe every kid needs a hook to get into college, so they all have to pick a "passion" to focus on intensely in elementary school. Vacations are spent following the kids to their various competitions in other states. When the kids have a minute of downtime, they go wild. [ Reply | More
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Watch "Child Genius" on TLC - on Tuesday nights I think, and you'll see a few. [ Reply | More
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Signing your kid up for a reality show about how smart they are just sounds like a recipe for disaster. Hubris. Way too much to live up to. [ Reply | More
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Most people do things for the money. They're getting money for being on the show, not to mention "fame." [ Reply | More
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so not worth it [ Reply | More
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Not if you have money but if you don't, it might be attractive. [ Reply | More
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Love this show, amazes me how smart those children are [ Reply | More
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yes. was very high ranking official in WH. OTT. type A to the max. my DH wants me to be like her. #helltotheno [ Reply | More
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Yes. DC is in G&T K and getting Kumon tutoring already. [ Reply | More
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I do. Her daughters got the attendance records for school, they did not have play dates, the mom teaches Chinese school on the side. Daughters always on the high honor roll. I met her when her daughters were learning golf. The first one is at Brown now. [ Reply | More
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Brown? She obviously failed. [ Reply | More
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I used to think I was one but not compared to the desceiptions below. Probably tiger mom light :-) bc my kids have play dates, are allowed to drop activities. But I expect 100 or close to it on every quiz or test. We did Kumon at 4 but it was going too slow so I taught them myself. Dh and I both went Ivy u degrad and grad and I banking and hedge funds. Now I am a SAHM for the kids sake [ Reply | More
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I could qualify but dc likes to do Math for fun. [ Reply | More
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[ - ] time warner guy is here. help! do i tip?? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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I normally do but I asked this once here and a lot of ppl don't [ Reply | More
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thanks.. what do you give? [ Reply | More
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Depends on what the issue is/how muh work. I think anywhere betw 5 and 20. [ Reply | More
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blow him [ Reply | More
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I would but not if I only had 20s, which has happened to me. [ Reply | More
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+1 - will give around $5 [ Reply | More
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no [ Reply | More
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When people are considering tipping cable guys, that's when you know tipping culture is out of control. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:55 PM Flag
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ITA. Ridiculous! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:06 PM Flag
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Hell, no! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:04 PM Flag
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This is how culture of corruption begins. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:10 PM Flag
[ - ] s/o Venderbilt rape. Speaking from experience, I really do believe that most teens are not mature enough to go away to college. Bad things happen. 27 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:10 PM Flag
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Women used to get married and start families at 16 and 18. Men who drug women to have sex are criminals and are the exception. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:12 PM Flag
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Not so sure about that. If you watch old movies the men are constantly trying to get women drunk. Women who are not experienced. Alcohol is a drug too you know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:15 PM Flag
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NP: I know what you're saying, yet the ability to do something doesn't mean that it is best done that way. We know that the brain doesn't develop fully until our mid twenties. That doesn't mean we should be infantilized. But maybe it doors mean that many of us are behind the curve and just should not be going to college. For example, these were football guys. Maybe they aren't really college material but they're there because we force athletes to first attend school before going professional. It bears some thinking about what we expect from college students and college education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:15 PM Flag
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turns out experience is the best teacher. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:12 PM Flag
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Perhaps, but it is fraught with peril. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:25 PM Flag
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I disagree. Besides, it's the parents job to make sure they are ready. If they aren't you failed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:13 PM Flag
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Well - apparently a lot of parents are failing and jeopardizing the whole lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:17 PM Flag
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The parents who fail are the ones whose sons rape. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:32 PM Flag
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Lots of moms on UB are pretty crappy it seems. Lots and lots of victim blaming. Amazing. Changes my view of moms of sons. I don't trust them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:13 PM Flag
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I think parents have very little impact on the morality of their children in the long run. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:16 PM Flag
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The masses who don't belong in college yet go and seek a "party school" are trouble waiting to happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:20 PM Flag
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I would say that is a fair percentage of 17-18 year olds. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:25 PM Flag
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So they should go to a vocational school and go to work. No getting drunk and hanging out at a 4 year party. And then leaving with debt and no job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:27 PM Flag
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Agree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:13 PM Flag
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The only way to get 100% ready for anything is to actually do it - you need to stretch yourself, take risks and learn from experience. The Vanderbilt victim didn't do anything risky or foolish, she was just unlucky. And don't tell me that sociopath wouldn't have been above slipping a roofie into someone's drink as an adult. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:43 PM Flag
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i agree with you 100% [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:59 PM Flag
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She drank too oblivion. That was a major factor. If she had stayed sober, she would not have been raped. People need to stop denying reality and their complicity in their own demise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:17 PM Flag
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She had THREE drinks. Three. The third one knocked her unconscious - she said she had never been that drunk in her life. They were able to carry her around, drag her through a hallway, beat and abuse her without her waking up or remembering a thing. She was drugged, you idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:25 PM Flag
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No, girls get knocked out drunk sometimes. I didn't read that she had had only three drinks. But she had them in very quick successions, all within 1-1/2 hours. I'm not entirely convinced she was drugged. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:51 PM Flag
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It's amazing how the bar for maturity and adulthood is pushed further and further out. This rape has nothing to do with immaturity. These guys are pigs who weren't taught any values. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:55 PM Flag
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Sometimes they hear it and just don't absorb it, their frontal lobes are not developed. Then they get drunk. As someone who did some scary shit in college when I was blacked out drunk, and who is lucky to be alive in a few instances, I see how it happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:10 PM Flag
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They have to go serve out their punishment, but I feel bad for everyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:12 PM Flag
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Dumb risks, yes. This was not riding without a seatbelt or peeing on the front lawn. And it appears to have been planned in advance. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:27 PM Flag
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Agree 100% [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:26 PM Flag
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Actually I kind of agree with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:12 PM Flag
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I really think college is a bad construct. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:12 PM Flag
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Agree. It's not just the rapes, but the binge drinking, fraternity hazing. It's fucked up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:14 PM Flag
[ - ] Between measles at Disneyland and getting murdered by white supremacists at Disney World and getting blown up by muslimist terrorists at EuroDisney, do I need to go to Tokyo now to get my Disney fix? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:07 PM Flag
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Hong Kong [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:07 PM Flag
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Wait who got murdwred by white supremacists [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:08 PM Flag
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Trayvon Martin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:09 PM Flag
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Except gz was not white. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:18 PM Flag
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I think life is telling you to grow up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:38 PM Flag
[ - ] I really want ramen. I havent had it since high school. Does Trader Joes have an alternative, or any other supermarket for that matter? TIA. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:03 PM Flag
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lol, you don't have a butler to buy some for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:04 PM Flag
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Try your local 99 cents store [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:07 PM Flag
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what's wrong with actual ramen? they have it in the food emporium in my neighborhood. i'm betting d'ag would carry it too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:11 PM Flag
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Any drugstore. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:12 PM Flag
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Whole foods has an organic one. My kids like it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:13 PM Flag
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I've tried the "better for you" versions and in all honesty it's not he same at all. Just get the good ol cheap stuff and use only half the seasoning packet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:24 PM Flag
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I wonder if I make it differently. I put the dry noodles and whole packet in a small pot, then fill with water. When the noodles are good I drain off the broth and just eat the noodles. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:14 PM Flag
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I loved ramen as a kid, but like it even better from asian grocery stores/delis. check seamless. I bet you can find some amazing ones. whole foods does have ones without mSG. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:27 PM Flag
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Ugh. Why not just go out and find a garbage can to pick from? Or dumpster dive behind a McDonald's. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:10 PM Flag
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Of you can tolerate great, get Korean. They invented the genre, after all. They have them in many bodegas. Also, they have some black bean noodles in a packet, which is really Chinese in origin but very good nonetheless, if you dislike heat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Gawker reader here. I think your site is disgusting and reeks of White Privilege. 35 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:02 PM Flag
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Go to buzzfeed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:03 PM Flag
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fellow gawker reader here. gawker reeks of disaffected williamsburg hipster. own it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:10 PM Flag
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I saw that article about ancestry on gawker and I actually laughed out loud about the proud English woman with 800 years on incest bloodlines and land stealing, that's far from nobility. You're just jealous because Americans have nice teeth and we won the battle for our freedom. You mad bro? As for thinking the site is disgusting why the hell would you even waste your valuable time posting on here? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:26 PM Flag
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Ily [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:38 PM Flag
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Ha ha. That was me. I couldn't believe it got picked up by gawker. Jealous? Wonderful! I take it you have never actually BEEN to an English country estate? How could we possibly be jealous about a colony we essentially gave up. Anyway, all the freedom stuff is a bore as you invade Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc. and shoot black children in the street like it's Apartheid era South Africa. Rather sad actually. But your aristocratic lineage claims are being furiously forwarded around London and making quite a few Facebook posts. Please, keep it up so we can have a few laughs. Someone printed a page and posted it at a private club here. But maybe that's going a bit far. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:42 PM Flag
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You have rather selective memory about history. But then again, England hasn't been much of political force in the last 200 years. I guess getting their ass kicked by their own people makes them think twice about hanging out past their welcome in someplace with a real military like china. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:49 PM Flag
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Sure, darling. Just remember to courtesy and bow when you are here, as all Americans fall over themselves to do. enjoy the buckingham palace tour this summer when you come! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:53 PM Flag
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Do you still do that affected bullshit? It's like Disbey for stupid old people. And no one is more enamored with your fake royalty than you people are. Enjoy your princess Diana figurines. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:05 PM Flag
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We can't. Americans have bought them all up. She was always more popular over there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:16 PM Flag
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COURTESY and bow? Is that a thing (like bad teeth) for you folks across the pond? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:09 PM Flag
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COURTESY and bow? Is that a thing (like bad teeth) for you folks across the pond? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:09 PM Flag
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"England hasn't been much of political force in the last 200 years" The UK was the world's largest economy until around 1900, and had a worldwide empire up to WWII. You're a fucking moron. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:03 PM Flag
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You almost got your ass kicked twice by Germany. You needed every other country in the works to bm bail you out if that mess. You're welcome, btw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:11 PM Flag
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We thanked you. And paid handsomely for your services. Really, trying to invoke WWII? Pitiful! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:18 PM Flag
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Just pointing out how incompetent your system snd country is [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:28 PM Flag
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Oh, a country has to be incompetent to be attacked by Germany? I guess all the people killed by hitler were incompetent as well. Nicely done. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 04:06 PM Flag
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Isn't the British military in all those countries with us? You're nobility system is a dying joke. Please explain, if you're so wealthy why not take proper care of your teeth? You're also far less educated than the average American because your "king" did not want to give up the colonies at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:57 PM Flag
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Anything to make yourself feel better ... And I noticed you ignored the reference to how America behaves... How about this, you justify Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and Eric Garner and I will answer any questions you have. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:01 PM Flag
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Please, the last time you shit up little Indian children in the street you were chased out of India because an old man in robes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:06 PM Flag
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Ha! Sixty years ago? Really! Your troops and still in Afghanistan and Iraq and eric Garner was killed a few months ago. You're getting worse, not better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:19 PM Flag
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British women are souring a baby boom for Isis. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:49 PM Flag
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And please show Mahatma Gandhi the respect of referring to him by name and not calling his traditional dress "sheets". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:21 PM Flag
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Or robes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:22 PM Flag
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Pretty sure I'm quoting what he said, laughing as u high tailed it. Again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:48 PM Flag
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High tailed what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 04:05 PM Flag
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And honestly, has the English ever done anything good or invented snything of significance since tea time? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:07 PM Flag
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Sorry, another thing- it's noteworthy that you're offended by what I wrote but apparently unbothered by all of those postings from people who considered themselves "pedigreed" because their families ATTENDED- not founded, just attended schools they consider prestigious. Really! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:50 PM Flag
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That's the great thing about America all we have to do is attend an ivy league and we become wealthier than your 800 years of incest. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:00 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:08 PM Flag
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Then why was the original post about "pedigree"? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:11 PM Flag
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"Incest. Incest. Incest. Bad teeth!" These are sophisticated argument being taught at your Ivy League schools? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:12 PM Flag
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I'm pretty sure you're the last person over there. Isn't it lonely? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:50 PM Flag
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Your future king is technically middle class, take your incest, bad teeth, and develop your own website for London moms. This site was created mainly for New York City, at the very least women who reside in America. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:06 PM Flag
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I have only shown my gratitude for the laughs this site provided. Don't get your feelings hurt and stop obsessing over teeth. Worry about the literacy rate in Detroit instead. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:08 PM Flag
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Which, by the way, is 47%. I sometimes get the feeling Americans think no one knows what actually happens over there. Your dirty little secrets aren't exactly secret and no one belives your rhetoric. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:10 PM Flag
[ - ] Serious question. How on earth do the spammers make any money off spamming urbanbaby? What could possibly be in it for them? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:49 PM Flag
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i've pondered the same question for quite some time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:07 PM Flag
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There might be spyware or adware or whatever on the sites they link to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:24 PM Flag
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No, once they're was a link to a site that was nonexistent. And I think each post must have a separate login because the mid was unable to prevent them by banning the poster one night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:22 PM Flag
[ - ] Good morning! I apologize in advance - I am NOT a mother and therefore don't really belong here. That being said, I have a problem I am hoping some of you can help me with! I gained a lot of weight quickly- about 40 lbs in 10 months or so- due to some deaths in the family and the fact that I was briefly on Depo Provera. I dond't look huge- I want ot lose 40 or so but would look great / fine if I lost 20- but I have pretty prominent stretchmarks on my thighs and lower back. I'm mid 20s and pale skinned- I spoke to my sister who just had a baby a little while ago, but we have different builds and skin tones so although she suggested cocoa butter she also suggested I come on here and ask you ladies! So: best (cheapest!) way to tone down stretchmarks on pale, pale skin? I know they won't totally disappear, but I at least don't want them to be so red and noticeable. Thanks, ladies! 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:47 PM Flag
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Coconut Oil is very effective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:49 PM Flag
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Thanks! I already use Coconut oil for everything else, so I guess here's another thing to try it on! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:27 PM Flag
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There is actually no proven effective way to do this unfortunately. I'd save your money for something that works. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:50 PM Flag
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Save your money for what then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:53 PM Flag
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Anything. A bottle of wine to enjoy. A new shirt to cover the stretch marks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:07 PM Flag
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OP here: I like the way you think! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:27 PM Flag
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Don't stretch marks fade over time, naturally? I know you want an immediate option, but I don't think there's anything to do that gets rid of them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:57 PM Flag
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OP here: Thanks everyone! I am losing the weight, (Seriously, Depo was the worst- as soon as I was able to talk my Dr into letting me off of it, I started losing) but am planning a trip to the Bahamas this summer so just trying to figure out how to get myself looking good again! I appreciate the suggestions! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:25 PM Flag
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You're welcome! :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:30 PM Flag
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There's nothing you can do except embrace them. They'll fade over time and eventually you'll barely notice them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 01:59 PM Flag
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I like mama mio products. My stretch marks are gone post pregnancy, but they were pretty light to begin with. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:19 PM Flag
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I like Mama Mio tummy rub products too. But it's time that will make the biggest difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:29 PM Flag
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They fade naturally over time. It's not the mio products. The stretch marks happen underneath the skin and can't be fixed by topical skin creams. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:17 PM Flag
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My derm says it's all genetic. Stay out of the sun. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:37 PM Flag
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I don't think anything can dramatically improve the appearance if stretch marks -- think if it like a wound. Can u do much to heal faster? I think red led has some effect but its not as cheap as vitamin e oil. Studies comparing vitamin e oil showed fewer stretch marks in women in thei second pregnancy who hot stretch marks during their first [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 02:42 PM Flag
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Try mederma [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:23 PM Flag
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My derm friend said the only you can do is laser them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.29.15, 03:55 PM Flag
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