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[ - ] DH and I are about to adopt three siblings from China, 8, 5, and 2. Any questions? 79 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Good choice. babies adopted from China do reslly well [ Reply | More ]
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What? [ Reply | More ]
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Okay.. You're crazy. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm not saying it isn't true, just kind of random to bring that up. [ Reply | More ]
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Racist troll go away no one wants you here. [ Reply | More ]
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I think that's awesome. Good for you. I hope you all connect and become a happy family. I'm sure it can be difficult for all involved, especially the eldest of the children, but obviously better than the alternative. I wish you well, it's an admirable thing. :) [ Reply | More ]
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OP here: Gosh, thanks everyone. We are nervous but excited. I am sure I'll be posting soon with all kinds of questions, as these are my first kids! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 04:53 AM Flag
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I posted below about RAD. If these kids do have RAD, please don't take it personally, please don't overreact as they try to figure out what makes you tick. If it gets frustrating join a RAD support group and see a therapist for yourself on how to deal with parenting a RAD child. It's really not about you, they would react that way to anyone trying to get close to them. Good luck. Hopefully they weren't neglected to the point of facing RAD. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 04:56 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you. Do you have adopted kids? If so, have you experienced RAD? Would love to hear about your experiences if applicable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:14 AM Flag
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I know some people who adopted 3 unrelated children from China. The youngest they got when she was a baby so she was able to attach fine. The eldest boy probably has RAD and was adopted at 7. He is mad that he was beat at the orphanage and left there. [ Reply | More ]
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Did you read up on Reactive Attachment Disorder? You know not to take it personal when they test you? Not to take it personal when they're curious about their genetic parents or seek to find them? You know that reactive attachment disorder is a way of protecting themselves from the past hurt and abandonment they have been through? It's good they have siblings and can b together so they have some sense of attachment. [ Reply | More ]
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We did. My brother is adopted so I'm familiar. One reason that we did end up going with siblings is because I wanted them to have each other. I love my brother and he and my younger sibling always got on well (I'm a bit older), but I think he often felt alone. [ Reply | More ]
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Aw, that's sad he felt alone :( -np [ Reply | More ]
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OP: I can't say for certain. He and our younger sibling were very close as kids (and we all get on perfectly well now), but in hindsight, I wonder if he felt that he was different (we're white, he's Asian). [ Reply | More ]
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If he's Asian is he still close to your family and do you think he will be a good uncle or feel uncomfortable? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:05 AM Flag
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OP: Yes, we're all fairly close-knit. He's young (college senior), so I think he feels about kids the way most 22-year-old guys do. He's worked as a camp counselor before so I know he enjoys hanging out with kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:06 AM Flag
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Well, I am glad you all get along well now. It's hard not to feel different when you look different. That's another reason it's so great you are adopting siblings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:05 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you. My brother really did impact our decision to adopt siblings. I understand that my parents couldn't have when they adopted him, as they already had two other kids! We were originally "signed up" for a set of twins but it fell through, and then these three were right there. We never could've separated them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:09 AM Flag
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:) [ Reply | More ]
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General Topics 08.21.14, 05:54 AM Flag
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Did their parents pass away? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 04:53 AM Flag
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+1 what do you know about their history? Btw I think it's awesome, and amazing that all the siblings can stick together. (: [ Reply | More ]
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OP here: Thanks so much =). Yes, their father died, he was quite ill but nothing that would be passed on to the kids. He was much older than their mother, who is still quite young. It was an arranged marriage of sorts. When the father died the mother went a bit off, left all the kids at the orphanage, and went back to her hometown. We were not able to get in touch with her. The 8-year-old (girl) speaks pretty decent English and so told me a lot of this, which I then confirmed with the orphanage and the agency. [ Reply | More ]
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What if the mom comes back thinking she made a big mistake? What if she got well and wanted to contact them? [ Reply | More ]
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She left them at an orphanage. I don't think she's coming back. And if she does and she is in her right mind then she will be happy for them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:09 AM Flag
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OP: It's a concern, right? Fortunately by the end of September, enough time will have passed that she'll have waived her parental rights. If ever in the future she somehow did want to get in touch, I am of course open to the kids meeting her. She was never violent towards them, I think she was just so young and so stricken with grief that she was mentally no longer able to function. [ Reply | More ]
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How old was she? Where did she go? How devastating was her mental illness? Did the orphanage say she had been in contact with them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:13 AM Flag
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OP: 24, she went back to her hometown (very small, south of China) but we weren't able to track her down there and the agency said it wasn't the end of the world. It's a US-based agency with lots of China adoption experience. Re: mental illness - it's a touchy subject in China, not discussed and, in rural areas, not understood at all. They told me simply that she was sick in the head but from my understanding speaking to the 8-year-old, she was grieving and unable to cope. [ Reply | More ]
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That is so sad. :( I hope you can be a good, strong, support circle for them and genuinely bond. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you. Yes, I wish there was something we could do for the mother, but even if we could find her, there exists no counseling, no grief therapy for her. My only solace is knowing that perhaps the youngest two won't remember their mother leaving them (not that I wish them to forget her but it seems inevitable). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:25 AM Flag
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Will you be taking trips back to China with the children? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:29 AM Flag
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OP: We'd like to, yes. We'll need to wait a couple of years to go with all three, for $$$ reasons and for our sanity. I plan to take the 8-year-old back next summer if she wants to go. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:34 AM Flag
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They are already in China. [ Reply | More ]
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I see. Happy for you guys! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:06 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you! Expect to see more of me soon with a slew of questions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:19 AM Flag
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Looking forward to it. [ Reply | More ]
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Don't be shy. [ Reply | More ]
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How does the 8 year old speak good English? Where did she learn? Were they a rich family? [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Her English is decent for an 8-year-old's second language. Certainly not good, though. All kids in China now take English in public school starting from K. [ Reply | More ]
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This. Some English is pretty common, almost universally. [ Reply | More ]
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Did the 8 year old understand she would be getting a new mommy and daddy? Did that seem scary for her? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:15 AM Flag
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OP: DH and I lived in China for several years so we speak decent Chinese, so we were able to explain to her in both simple Chinese and English what was happening. She is really pumped about going to the US, though, and so I'm not sure whether she realizes that she's moving there permanently or just thinks she's taking a trip with us... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.21.14, 05:20 AM Flag
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Is she going to be impressed with where you live? The people who adopted the Chinese children seemed to think all Americans were rich and could buy whatever they wanted. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Ha, no. We live in a small apartment near Columbia (not faculty housing, just nearby). We're explained to the older two that, in America, there are people of all different colors, not just Chinese and foreigners. Chinese in China see people as either Chinese or "foreign" i.e. white. [ Reply | More ]
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Are you going to let them share a room to be with each other? [ Reply | More ]
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OP: We have a small 3-bedroom, so the youngest two (boys) will have to, at least for now. Of course they can sleep in whatever arrangements is most comfortable for them. Actually, DH and I were discussing this: do you think 1. we should decorate the rooms ahead of time, so that the kids feel welcome, or 2. we should wait until they arrive and take them (the older two) to pick out decorations, bedding, etc? The 5-year-old boy may have little interest but the 8-year-old girl might enjoy it. I just don't want them to come home to blank white rooms. [ Reply | More ]
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I like the idea of letting them decorate their rooms. I think it will feel more like home to the, that way, them a new forced place to stay. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Thanks, I think so too. DH isn't too fussed either way, though I'm sure he's groaning at the idea of assembling Ikea furniture. [ Reply | More ]
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Yes, I like the idea too of getting to know them, asking what their favorite colors are and planning and decorating a room together. You're right, though it could be scary to have a blank white room so at least but some teddy bears and colored sheets in there Hello Kitty, Ninja Turtles, something until you plan it together. You don't want them to form a bad first impression. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: It's funny that you mention Ninja Turtles, because these are the sheets all 3 kids in my family had growing up and my mom just asked if I wanted them for now. I think I'll have her bring them and explain to the kids that when I was little I also slept on them. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm just trying to think of something so big and universally popular. I think if not Ninja Turtles, Transformers should do it. Or Pokemon. [ Reply | More ]
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Could you ask them what they liked to play with at the orphanage and what things were popular with them there? That way you can know their interests ahead of time and surprise them. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Ah, good suggestion. I will, and that'll give us a heads up for when we arrive in the US. Too late to decorate now as we're in Hong Kong (my parents are at our apartment and could decorate for us if I asked them to - we won't be back in NY for a week). [ Reply | More ]
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I guess you could but I think if you explain to them very when that their rooms won't stay that way they would understand. Go with your instinct. [ Reply | More ]
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What are the sexes? Just curious. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Girl: 8, boy: 5, boy: 2 (almost 3). I was surprised to find that the orphanage was almost 50/50 in terms of sexes. I thought there'd be many more girls. [ Reply | More ]
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They don't do infanticide as much as you would think. Rates have declined. [ Reply | More ]
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Keep us updated op, will you? Now I'm vested in the fate of these poor little kids and hope they'll adjust well. Let us know how it goes, ok? [ Reply | More ]
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OP here: Absolutely! I appreciate all the nice feedback. I'm sure I'll be back in a few months with questions about schools and little league and how to get the kids to eat vegetables. =) [ Reply | More ]
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What will you call yourself so we'll know you? Chinese adopt mom? [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Ha, hmm I think more of myself as the "who are these kids and why are they calling me mom?" lady, but Chinese adopt mom is much nicer. Will post again tomorrow or Saturday after we get the kids. [ Reply | More ]
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Please post tomorrow [ Reply | More ]
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+1 keep posting, I'll be on the look out. I'm curious and I think it's great what you're doing. Would love to follow. [ Reply | More ]
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np This is silly, but I was thinking if money were no object, I would try to hire an older Chinese speaking housekeeper, nanny, cook, who could permanently stay on with the family and be sort of a grandma so the kids could retain a little bit of their culture and language. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Not silly at all! It's a great idea and one DH and I have discussed and think would be great for the future. My best friend is Chinese and her parents always speak to me in Chinese, so I've asked them to sort of be our kids' Chinese grandparents. [ Reply | More ]
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These children are so lucky to have parents who used to live in China, speak Chinese, have Chinese family friends and a Chinese uncle. I think you're going to do really well as a new family. :) [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Thanks so much. I give it half a year before our eldest is teasing me and DH for speaking Chinese like toddlers. My brother is Korean but it's still nice for them to have someone else in our family who isn't white. [ Reply | More ]
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Oh whoops. Yes, it will still be nice no matter! [ Reply | More ]
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If it wasn't so late NY time, this would have made most popular. Not that that matters, but i'd like to keep following your story. Thanks. [ Reply | More ]
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OP: No, thank you. I realize that I posted quite late. We're in Hong Kong heading to see the kids tomorrow, and I'm spending the day working/distracting myself with UB. I'll try and bump the post tomorrow as I'd love to hear from other people who've adopted. [ Reply | More ]
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There you go op! You can ask them what they like tomorrow and what their favorite colors are and tell them you will design a room for them at home they can play and sleep in. You can also make sure the girl knows it will be a permanent thing and talk to her about the transition and how big of a deal it was so she can make sure she knows. I'm so excited for you! This was really heart warming. Good luck!!! [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Thanks so much! I really appreciate the suggestions. Taking the big plunge is easier hearing from other parents. Will report back tomorrow. [ Reply | More ]
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Good night :) [ Reply | More ]
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Wow! Congratulations! I have 3 about the same ages, and I can say that part for sure is a great fit. It makes me so happy to hear that you are doing this. You must be so excited, eager, nervous, etc but it just seems like what's a leap of faith you're doing for them will be the most extraordinary gift to you. You're so lucky! [ Reply | More ]
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OP: Thanks so much! How do your three get along? Do you find that the youngest acts older because of influence from the other two? Do you spend one-on-one time with them? Do they bicker? Sorry for all the questions! I WOH but am taking four months flex-time leave, so this is a totally new experience for me. [ Reply | More ]
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