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[ - ] Does a combined income of 290K, both parents work full-time and 2 dc's qualify us for financial aid at an independent private school? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:53 AM Flag
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We got financial aid making slightly more. Just apply and see what happens. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 06:27 AM Flag
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do you offer anything to the school community? [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] First world complaints? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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I wish Trader Joe's would redesign their bags [ Reply | More ]
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ha [ Reply | More ]
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My kids only sleep in the playroom - they hate their room which is basically a giant toy closet. [ Reply | More ]
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My husband was complaining that the seats in his new car didn't get warm enough. [ Reply | More ]
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My Jo Malone candles give me a headache. [ Reply | More ]
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HHI 350k and can't afford private school [ Reply | More ]
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I gained a pound. Ugh. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] What does SAB special conference mean ? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Pas de trois [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:50 AM Flag
[ - ] Serious question: we have twin dcs, make 180K per yr combined both working ft, no diversity, super smart dcs (all 4s on report cards in 4th grade + perfect math/very high ELA on 3rd grade tests--we'll see about this year--99 g&t) both in g&t now. Do we have any chance at FA for private middle schools? If so, would it be enough to make private possible for us? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.07.16, 04:46 AM Flag
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Why do that to yourselves? You will likely be stretched thin. The cream will rise, the kids will be fine.- finance mom [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:48 AM Flag
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Why would you want private. They seem to be thriving [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:50 AM Flag
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You know FA doesn't mean free, right? It is aid, meaning they will help not pay for the whole thing. They will expect you to pay at least $10k per kid. You can't afford it. Just do good public which seems to be where they are thriving now. Why mess up a good thing? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:51 AM Flag
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You should get actual info about this. Maybe Parents League? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:58 AM Flag
[ - ] 2016 Best private High Schools in New York City Metro https://k12.niche.com/rankings/private-high-schools/best-overall/m/new-york-city-metro-area 54 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.07.16, 04:34 AM Flag
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I hate these lists. We should boycott [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:35 AM Flag
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boycott yourself [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:50 AM Flag
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No surprises here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:35 AM Flag
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This. Not much different from the 2015 rankings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:38 AM Flag
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what a stupid list... no one would go to packer collegiate over brearley or collegiate unless they didn't want to do any work [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:37 AM Flag
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ya ya, go away already brearely spammer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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Nothing more tiresome than the over the top Brearley moms. A school that has literally produced no women leaders of any kind. Tons of HW and stress for NADA. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:54 AM Flag
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Interesting. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:01 AM Flag
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks. "Literally" no women leaders of any kind? Lol. What's your beef? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:50 AM Flag
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I know, she's so defensive. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:57 AM Flag
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Why brearley spammer and not collegiate? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:10 AM Flag
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What's brearley? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:52 AM Flag
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Many schools have a ton of work. But it's not about quantity it's a bout quality. Moreover some kids are simply faster and more efficient than others. Someone who feels pressure cooked simply isn't as smart and thus takes 10 times longer to do HW than most. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:31 AM Flag
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Agree but this is about the High School aspect of the K-12 schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:37 AM Flag
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Note that its only ranking private high schools. Is there a list for best public high schools? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:40 AM Flag
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There are ranking lists for everything [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:52 AM Flag
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Yes. Stuy came in last of SHS. Dead last [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:53 AM Flag
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For public here's 2016 Best public High Schools in New York https://k12.niche.com/rankings/public-high-schools/best-overall/s/new-york/ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:13 AM Flag
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Yes, Stuy is ranked #1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:14 AM Flag
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Everyone knows this already. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:38 AM Flag
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not really.. the list is silly and completely inconsistent with college placement [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:39 AM Flag
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No way is poly prep above Regis. And my kid goes to PP! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:41 AM Flag
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This. This list seems more consistent with what I hear in real life conversations. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:52 AM Flag
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Oh please. Poly Prep! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:02 AM Flag
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Brearley and Spence not included in the analysis. Invalidates the whole thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:40 AM Flag
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Nor Chapin. What a stupid list. Probably not Riverdale either. Who would put Packer Collegiate at the top? It's a safety school for mediocre kids at our K-8. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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Agree 100%!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:10 AM Flag
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ya ya, go away already chapin spammer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:11 AM Flag
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Chapin is #28 on the list [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:19 AM Flag
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It made Top Thirty. That's awesome! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:22 AM Flag
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Yawn [ Reply | More ]
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ya ya, go away already spence spammer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:11 AM Flag
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Of course, but tell us something we don't already know. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:45 AM Flag
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Love Packer! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:46 AM Flag
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me too but dc was dinged. sigh [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:50 AM Flag
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This is just about high school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:47 AM Flag
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Makes sense, since the first k-8 years are pretty much the same at the top 30-40 schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:48 AM Flag
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Well yeah, but Trinity's k-8 is subpar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:49 AM Flag
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True but the hs is something else. All the real stars coming 9th grade from publics and K-8 schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:54 AM Flag
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Trinity elementary is a joke. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:16 AM Flag
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Thanks! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:56 AM Flag
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please, Packer #4? no way [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:09 AM Flag
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These rankings are for high school. Great but the vast majority of K applicants aren't looking that far ahead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:10 AM Flag
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Agree with this. Horace Mann is the best school in the city. And DD was accepted there! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:12 AM Flag
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Congrats. For HS? MS? or K? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:23 AM Flag
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For K. Not going, though. Chose Brearley instead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:40 AM Flag
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DC accepted at HM. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:45 AM Flag
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Congrats. For HS? MS? or K? [ Reply | More ]
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For K. Not going, though. Chose Trevor instead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:46 AM Flag
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But it's #1 according to this vaunted list. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:52 AM Flag
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This ranking is so stupid. It's based teacher/student reviews. No college matriculation stats listed or taken into account. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:29 AM Flag
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Yeah, no matric stats and no butt hole measurement either. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:33 AM Flag
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why should I trust "k12.niche.com"? I have never heard of it. No clue how they research and what they take into account in their ranking. means zero. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:36 AM Flag
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Don't feed the troll. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:40 AM Flag
[ - ] We are officially priced out of our private school. Dc will be in 7th grade in the fall and we are in District 2. How do I find out which schools we are zoned for? 25 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:34 AM Flag
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Where do you live? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:35 AM Flag
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op: Downtown, east side [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:37 AM Flag
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Baruch is your zoned middle [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:38 AM Flag
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If you want to verify call 311 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:39 AM Flag
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Try and get into sp program. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:41 AM Flag
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You should contact them asap [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:41 AM Flag
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There are no zoned schools for middle school. Kids apply in 5th grade for spots in 6th. All the desireable schools will be filled. You should probably contact DOE to see which schools have openings, but be warned: these will not be the "good" schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:38 AM Flag
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There ARE MIST DEFINATELY ZONED MIDDLE SCHOOLS [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:40 AM Flag
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I stand corrected. I was thinking about the sp programs. Those will definitely be hard to get at this point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:53 AM Flag
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I don't know about Baruch but Wagner allows all qualified into sp program. I think if you are squeaky wheel Baruch will too [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:55 AM Flag
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Wait. She was in private and you're just realizing you're too poor? You suck. Should have planned. Not fair to kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:42 AM Flag
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Go away [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:44 AM Flag
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op: The tuition continues to be raised and both dh and I work full time. When we started out in K, dh worked and I was a SAHM. Tuition has gone up tremendously over the years and it's finally hit a breaking point for us. [ Reply | More ]
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Why did you decide after application season. You should know by now that they increase gradually each year, you should have had your kids test for gifted and specialized public. You are too late now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:50 AM Flag
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What is wrong with you? [ Reply | More ]
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op: we just got notified of another large tuition increase and we've stretched ourselves very thin over the years increasingly. It's time to lighten the load now for a better quality of life. Situations change and it's important for us as a family to make adaptations whenever it's necessary. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:11 AM Flag
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can you apply for FA? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:15 AM Flag
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Can you move? So sorry. This is a fear of mine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:16 AM Flag
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You should have projected out the tuition increase of about 4-5% per hear and made this decision well ahead of time. This is why poor stays poor, no planning!!! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:22 AM Flag
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I don't think schools were increasing tuition year after year by 4-5% 8 yrs ago when OP was applying for kinder [ Reply | More ]
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op: precisely! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:46 AM Flag
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Sorry, but unless I knew I had millions to spare I wouldn't have gone this route. Try all the d 2 schools. Spots open up. Baruch, Spruce, 276, 289. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:51 AM Flag
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Yes. Keep trying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:03 AM Flag
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Check the DOE website and find out all the D2 schools. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:03 AM Flag
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I know so many kids who retested into better MS like Lab, etc for 7th grade from less desirable d2 ms. I don't see why they would discriminate against the kids from private schools. Directly Call the schools in which you are interested. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Do you must first choice St. Ann's to have a shot? Or is it a bad strategy wasting FC on them if not connected? Luuuv the school for DD for K next year. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Saint Ann's doesn't require FC or ILY letters. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:27 AM Flag
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Thanks! Technically none of them "require" them, right, but many schools expect them? Do you know which of the top 20 need FC letter to even consider you? Coming out of a small Montessori program and PSD is young & clueless. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Do WOHMs usually have time for their hobbies (or their hobby)? How much time usually and how to you ensure that you can actually have time for it? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:14 AM Flag
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Does reading on the subway count? If not, none. [ Reply | More ]
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What hobbies do people have? I wish I had one. All i do is work and do laundry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:46 AM Flag
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I'm one of the few who truly enjoys my job. It is my hobby- just one I get paid for! [ Reply | More ]
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But other stuff, no, no time [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Packer or PS 234? Worried about getting in for MS and esp HS, otherwise would stay public k-5. TY. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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234 [ Reply | More ]
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234 [ Reply | More ]
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234. They have very good middle school placements. [ Reply | More ]
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234. Packer is mediocre IMO [ Reply | More ]
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234. Packer is middling. [ Reply | More ]
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because k12.niche.com is the most reliable place for school ranking info? I think not... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:37 AM Flag
[ - ] Why do the NYC privates lag so poorly in math? Given the ascendancy of tech and data, you would think the parents would be howling about this poor preparation. Went to the Manhattan MathCOUNTS competition today. All the private schools had teams: all the girls schools, Dalton, Collegiate, AllenStevenson etc. Top 16 kids on the stage for the finals. Half went to Hunter. Half. One kid from Collegiate (who was twice the size of the public school kids---seemed like a summer birthday red shirt situation) and one speyer. The rest public. The Dalton, Brearley et al kids just watched the Hunter and Nest kids take everyone out. Really huge divide in performance. I cannot believe that the Hunter and Nest kids are simply smarter. It does seem like the privates emphasize humanities at the expense of STEM. Do they think the kids are going to work in book publishing? 88 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 02.07.16, 04:12 AM Flag
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The best public schools always attract the smartest kids. Always have and always will. The best private schools only attract the wealthy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:15 AM Flag
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With exceptions, this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:23 AM Flag
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You are assuming prep for this specific competition = math curriculum in school. I know my great math dc went to competition once and refused to go again. It is what it is. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:15 AM Flag
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STEM is not high paying. Are you Asian? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:15 AM Flag
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Sounds like you haven't a clue about the job market. YOu need math for finance and tech and those two are the highest paying professions in the US> [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:18 AM Flag
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That is not STEM. What does finance require like a year of college math? All private school kids will get there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:21 AM Flag
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LOL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:24 AM Flag
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What pays more? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:19 AM Flag
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ceo [ Reply | More ]
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Right. CEOs....major in English and Fine Arts...NOT. Can't be a CEO without math. Can't be a CEO of a high growth company without STEM. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:27 AM Flag
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OP must be running a dry cleaner and has never worked in any white collar field. Fortune 500 CEOs or MDs at Goldman/Blackstone don't even know how to open a spreadsheet. They all are big picture people. What they all have in common? -people skills. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:35 AM Flag
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OP is so obviously Asian! Hi Mrs Yuen! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:23 AM Flag
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NYC privates are largely crunchy/progressive/liberal? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:15 AM Flag
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Yes. Then cram for SAT via prep. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:24 AM Flag
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Why would crunchy be anti math? Just curious by the way. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:31 AM Flag
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You know there are only 50 kids per grade at Brearley, but 800-2000 per grade at SHS. Right. Even Hunter has 200 per grade. Also these public schools have 75% Asian. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:18 AM Flag
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The public schools clearly win by outnumbering and by Asian population. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:19 AM Flag
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LOL.The entire Dalton team was Asian except for a few token kids. They still didn't make the cut. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:29 AM Flag
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Does Dalton have that many Asians? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:34 AM Flag
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Stuy is more like 600-800/grade. Never 2,000 per grade, that is misinformation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:25 AM Flag
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Stuy is not the ONLY SHS. How big is Bx. Sci and Brooklyn Tech? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:32 AM Flag
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You know Brearley spammers tend to embellish to help their weak arguments. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:03 AM Flag
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So there should have been at least one brearley girl on the stage. How about one independent girl? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:28 AM Flag
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So there was a Brearley Intel STS finalist two years in a row. Where were the 10 Stuy or Hunter finalists? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:38 AM Flag
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No Stuy. 6-8th grade competition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:28 AM Flag
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Unless you can provide evidence, other than your own perception, I'm disinclined to believe you. Moreover - a ridiculous sample and sample size. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:24 AM Flag
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OMG. Do you have access google? There's like 50 years of data on this topic. All consistent. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:30 AM Flag
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This is why our kids are at Success Academy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:27 AM Flag
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The school where every kid FAILED the SHSAT test. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:31 AM Flag
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How can you fail? Do you mean that not a single child who put down all SHS got a spot? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:34 AM Flag
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Not a single SA kid passed the SHSAT test to gain SHS admission. [ Reply | More ]
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Even to tech? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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Correct. Not even to tech. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:46 AM Flag
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Stop replying to yourself. So obvious. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:51 AM Flag
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She isn't. I'm asking the questions. It takes nothing to get in at tech. Maybe they only put down stuy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:00 AM Flag
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sure [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:04 AM Flag
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I'll wait to see how their first batch does with college admissions. Reserving judgement till then. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:34 AM Flag
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Looking at how bad they did on the SHSAT, which is similar to SAT, they will have to rely on AA and URM status to gain college admission. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:39 AM Flag
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nice hedge. lol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:56 AM Flag
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The school famous for test prep. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:31 AM Flag
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Better than showing up to match competitions and failing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:33 AM Flag
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You can't "lag poorly in math" and get into great colleges. They might not participate in these public competitions for many reasons other than lagging poorly in math. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:30 AM Flag
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She didn't say poorly, she said lagging. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:33 AM Flag
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She said "lag so poorly" to be correct. [ Reply | More ]
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To be precise not correct. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:51 AM Flag
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Yes you can. Math SAT is dumbed down. You can get a 680 in math and get into a good college. That is not a math score that is predictive of the kind of success OP is talking about here. People who make partner at Goldman or run divisions at Google would not score that poorly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:33 AM Flag
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People who make partner at Goldman or run divisions at Google are good at critical thinking and communications skills. What you are talking about is literally studying to the test. In this case the MathCounts competition. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:41 AM Flag
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You have no idea what you are talking about with regards to MathCOUNTS and the work highly paid finance and tech executives do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:48 AM Flag
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Mathcounts is a BS competition. It requires a very specific skill of answering questions fast. Mathcounts questions are no mind benders but are knowledge based, the catch is the questions are several grades above grade level. That's why Asians who attend weekend cram schools ace the test. It's totally preppable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:42 AM Flag
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Plenty of private kids getting 750 + this is not the level winning math competition but plenty for any finance job [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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Winning math competition is all about prepping as well, just a different kind of prepping. The point is that prepping for a finance job is useful, while prepping for a math competition is not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:00 AM Flag
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LOL. The average math SAT in Brearley is 750. In fact, half the Brearley class scored 800 on Math SAT. I doubt the school even has a student with math SAT below 700. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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^ and it's the same at Trinity and Collegiate. Not sure about Dalton, but I imagine it's similar there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:45 AM Flag
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Prepping not curriculum. Believe me. [ Reply | More ]
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Oh right, because public school students don't prep, or are just bad at prepping. I'm rolling on the floor laughing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:59 AM Flag
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Do you think they actually have time to prep? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:00 AM Flag
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X millions [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:01 AM Flag
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Stuy tiger moms being outprepped by privates? Ridiculous!!! LOL [ Reply | More ]
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Post a public link. I highly doubt that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:49 AM Flag
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I am too lazy to post each school's SAT profile. Here is Trinity, which has a larger class size than Brearley. Look up the other schools yourself. http://www.trinityschoolnyc.org/ftpimages/390/misc/misc_132395.pdf [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:54 AM Flag
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Trinity range is 700-790. That's hardly an average of 750. Please. It's called obfuscation. If the average were 750 they would list it. It's a game the schools play. Look there's too much fluff in these schools to have a high average even with prepping. Bottom half of these schools comprise mediocre wealthy kids. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:05 AM Flag
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700-790 is mediocre kids? What would you call the public school kids that are scoring substantially lower? LOL. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:08 AM Flag
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public school kids scoring substantially less WITH PREPPING, I might add. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:10 AM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:09 AM Flag
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You clearly don't know what you talk about. Listing score range is more transparent than average. And ivys are listing SAT ranges too. If you log into College Board, you will see Trinity has an AVERAGE SAT of 2260. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:21 AM Flag
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Unbelievable stats. Are these schools real? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:06 AM Flag
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I know the boy and he is not red shirted. You are a bit jelly i think... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:43 AM Flag
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I love that you posted this! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:46 AM Flag
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He's just looked very out of place but fair enough he might just be an early bloomer. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:50 AM Flag
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Middle school math competition hardly a good indicator for overall education [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:47 AM Flag
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And what is a predictor for majoring in math,engineering,physics or CS in college? I love how dismissive you are being of this competition when ALL the privates had healthy representation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:07 AM Flag
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I live in Silicon Valley and dh and I are both in tech fields. These math competitions are more like spelling bees. They are fine but mostly good for padding the old college admissions apps. We don't care if our kids do these. Not really impressive, sorry. Fun sure, promotes math, great! But they are not indicative of a strong math curriculum. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:51 AM Flag
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So are you saying the schools who don't have good showing at these math "spelling bees" could have strong math curriculum? even though presumably they sent their highest performing math students who get beat repeatedly? I don't understand what you're saying? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 06:03 AM Flag
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eh you are presuming a lot... It is an after school activity, not related to the kids' grades. Kids who are interested, do it. Kids who aren't interested (and may be the highest performing math students), don't do it. Large public schools have a whole machine for these competitions and because they have more students, they can end up with many more students participating. I think the two schools listed in the OP are gifted magnets though - test in with IQ testing? Not surprised they have a great showing. It doesn't mean the kids are getting a better math education. I just looked at the Intel STS for 2016 - from Silicon Valley, 5 out of 6 of the finalists are at private schools. The one finalist from a public school is in cupertino. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 06:32 AM Flag
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I was very surprised when I toured the privates. Math very very weak. I too would love to know why. You would think for the $$ they are asking us to pay they could up their game. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:52 AM Flag
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You must have touted in LS, when TTs teach student skills and G&T brag about being above grade level. The problem is that by middle school it is the TTs that are laughing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:02 AM Flag
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How can you tell by a tour that the math is weak? Not trying to be confrontational - I really want to know. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 06:16 AM Flag
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You are correct, Hunter and Nest kids are not simply smarter, they simply studied to the test. In this case the MathCounts competition. Unfortunately, rote memorization has very little to do with real life jobs that require critical thinking and communications skills. These kids are going to be doctors, lawyers and businessmen. Privates are not emphasizing humanities at the expense of STEM, they are teaching skills that are required for a successful career as opposed to winning competitions. I've got a better question for you, do public schools emphasize teaching to the test because they think that the kids are going to win math competitions for a living? PS Brearley Intel STS finalists two years in a row. MAthCounts winners produced exactly NONE. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 04:54 AM Flag
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If TT privates were so amazing at teaching, then why is the tutoring ubiquitous at TT privates? And how do you defend preprofessional communication skills of students who are learning in environment is single sex? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:04 AM Flag
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Tutoring is ubiquitous at top publics as well. The other question you are going to have to repeat in English. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:05 AM Flag
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But top publics are free, sweetie. Why would parents pay TT $$ plus tutoring? Seems like a rip off. What exactly are you buying? A brand? Nicer digs? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:08 AM Flag
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This is laughable. Hunter graduates are supreme court justices, celebrated artists, gifted musicians, playwrights, Intel Finalists etc etc. Comic relief. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:09 AM Flag
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Except that there were no Hunter finalists in the last two years and there were two Brearley finalists in the last two years. Comic relief indeed. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:11 AM Flag
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This is so ridiculous that I have to chime in. Have you ever done a math competition before in your life? It's exactly one of those things that you cannot "teach to the test" for. It's a essentially a problem-solving, IQ-testing competition. You simply need brains, albeit a special kind, and exactly the type that I'm looking for when I hire. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:48 AM Flag
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What "rote-memorization" are you talking about?? No such thing in a math competition! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:50 AM Flag
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A lot of time public gifted magnets have teams for these things. Robotics competitions, math competitions, stuff like that. I would not assume that the kids are getting a stronger math curriculum at school because you don't have nearly enough info to figure that out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:03 AM Flag
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In what grades are these kids? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 05:19 AM Flag
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take seniors from all the 7 TT schools. combined, there are significantly fewer than a class at stuy. these kids do a lot of extracurriculars and sports, and quite a few aren't aren't all that into math. Stuy picks its students based on math, ec's are relatively limited, and there's much more of a culture of prepping for math competitions. it would be surprising if there weren't a difference. lots of ways to learn and eventually be successful. why the vitriol? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 02.07.16, 06:11 AM Flag
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I don't know. There is nothing wrong with community service being required. [ Reply | More ]
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I disagree. I'm a thallus thrilled that the problem is being addressed. We may stumble, but at least we are walking in the right direction [ Reply | More ]
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Actually [ Reply | More ]
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Encouraging high school kids to make “more meaningful contributions to others” will just provide new ways to game the system. [ Reply | More ]
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My family doesn't have to be encouraged. It's a way of life. Nice to have it a knowledged [ Reply | More ]
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There's already too much of this fake compassion. [ Reply | More ]
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Do you love the school you got into, and do you truly believe it is head and shoulders above your zoned public? Could you move to a top public zone if push came to shove? The commute scares me too as we are downtown and the ongoings we like are all way out of the way...DH not open to moving and not sure I am either. Might stick with PS. [ Reply | More ]
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Can you stop panicking and re-write a coherent post? [ Reply | More ]
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lol [ Reply | More ]
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