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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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How about fjord aquifer?
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05.22.13, 04:15 PM
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ds is named fjord. we're looking for a name that goes with that.
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05.22.13, 04:16 PM
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Creek? Salt water estuary?
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05.22.13, 04:17 PM
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fake
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05.22.13, 04:16 PM
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Sorry, you sound black.
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05.22.13, 04:23 PM
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You sound like moron.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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Why would being black warrant an apology by you?
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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Culvert Gorge
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05.22.13, 04:23 PM
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op--i should point out that this is a name for a dd. also considering river and harber.
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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OK, but what if it is a boy?
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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Reservoir nn Ressie
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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Aquinnah, MA on Martha's Vineyard is one of the most beautiful places on earth. I love it for a name.
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05.22.13, 04:27 PM
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05.22.13, 04:09 PM
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If it were me, I'd bow out and send a gift. Unfortunately, I think you have to buy both a shower gift and a wedding gift if you were invited to the shower.
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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Same.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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You only have to buy a gift if you attend.
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05.22.13, 04:26 PM
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I would politely decline, and no need for gift. Showers were supposed to be for close friends and family, not every woman invited to wedding.
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05.22.13, 04:11 PM
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05.22.13, 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't even send a gift unless your husband is really good friends with her father. I once got invited to a baby shower for a girl who sat at the same table as me for a group brunch. Never met her before that day. I think the bride is being a little tacky if she doesn't really know you.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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I have been to a few showers of people I'm not as close with and I actually find it rather fun -- like, a nice way to celebrate a fun thing for someone. Either way, bring a gift, and if you can't make it, totally fine for you to RSVP no.
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05.22.13, 04:11 PM
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Bow out and send a small gift, an outfit or some board books and those cute little socks.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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shes registered at Bed Bath and Beyond..so I guess I can send her something from her registry- OP. I agree its a bit odd to get the invite. My husband isnt even close friends with her dad, hes just one of the guys that hangs out in his beer drinking group.
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05.22.13, 04:16 PM
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Just send a little something or a card.
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05.22.13, 04:18 PM
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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I love sitting away from him - we each get to talk to new people. It's more fun
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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ITA
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05.22.13, 04:09 PM
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Yes. This.
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05.22.13, 04:11 PM
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Unless you don't know anyone at all, I think it is totally fine to be seated apart. I mean, you see him enough - isn't it nice to talk to other people for a change?!
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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I live with him, we don't need to sit together.
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05.22.13, 04:05 PM
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I don't have a preference.
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05.22.13, 04:05 PM
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always near each other!
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05.22.13, 04:03 PM
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Why???
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05.22.13, 04:07 PM
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That's what we do, everyone I know does this. I've been married for 8 years norm for us!
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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Do you bring him along on girls nights out too?
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05.22.13, 04:13 PM
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No silly, but you sound jealous
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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No, I find women like you annoying. You aren't in high school.
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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LOL.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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Together if newlyweds. Don't put other people's children in between them.
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05.22.13, 04:07 PM
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I've been married for 8 years hardly newlyweds. Cocktail parties and get togethers are when we mingle separate but sit down dinner we seat next to each other. Original poster are you married?
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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I don't mind either way but my friends wife (from Scandinavia) would get very upset if dh and dw were seated together. She even tried to rearrange our seats at a mutual friends wedding which I thought was nutso.
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05.22.13, 04:13 PM
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My spouse is a fabulous dinner guest and I'm a good sharer. Apart please.
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05.22.13, 04:08 PM
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no problem sitting away from each other but agree, lots of people would not be comfortable with this arrangement and get upset
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05.22.13, 04:22 PM
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i would be one of those people. i like being seated next to my husband and would feel miffed at the arrangement forcing me to talk to people i may not feel comfortable with.
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05.22.13, 04:18 PM
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It's a dinner, not an orgy. You can't make small talk for 2 hours?
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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Upset? Are they 12?
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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I defer to the host's preference on this one. If left to our own devices, we'll sit together for dinner, but mingle separately during cocktail hour.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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05.22.13, 04:01 PM
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Wrong and illegal in NY state and many others.
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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np-Illegal? Why?
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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NNP: I have no idea why it is illegal in NY, but an acquaintance of mine is using a surrogate in FL because of this issue.
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05.22.13, 04:01 PM
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Officially because it is contrary to to public policy.
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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really? can you link to something that proves it is illegal?
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05.22.13, 04:18 PM
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You do know what the google is right?
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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np-Illegal? Why?
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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I know many people with fertility issues who used one, so probably the is a way.
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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It's probably illegal if you have no health problems to justify it. I know in Europe it is that way too.
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05.22.13, 04:06 PM
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Depends on the country. For instance in Italy and France it is completely illegal for anyone in any circumstance. More a well but I'm too lazy to look this us.
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05.22.13, 04:19 PM
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if you have the money, go for it.
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05.22.13, 04:03 PM
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How old are you?
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05.22.13, 03:57 PM
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30
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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Honestly I think it means you are selfish and vain.
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05.22.13, 04:00 PM
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Yes, very strange.
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05.22.13, 04:06 PM
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This is obviously a theoretical post based on a post this morning. That's cool, but don't try to pretend you're actually thinking of doing this.
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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Seriously, OP has no idea why the original woman chose a surrogate. There are a number of horrific genetic diseases she may be a carrier for that require a surrogate.
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05.22.13, 04:00 PM
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Wouldn't that be an issue of the egg/sperm since they provide the DNA, rather than the carrier?
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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Not in the case of an autoimmunue disease that can cause severe clotting, or opposite blood type or lupus.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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Ahh OK that makes sense. I was thinking more in terms of genetic issues with the baby.
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05.22.13, 04:24 PM
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So why should she pass those genes on exactly???
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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I am! I considered it even before the birth of my db, and now that I know what it involves I am seriously thinking about it. Of course this posting is inspired by the previous poster, but the idea was there before.
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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You are selfish and not ready to have children if this is your main concern.
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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I have one child, and I enjoy being his mother enough to want another one. This has nothing to do with pregnancy which I detested and would very much like to avoid.
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05.22.13, 04:05 PM
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Then adopt or suck it up.
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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This.
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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+1000. If you want a biological baby badly enough, you should be willing to actually carry and bear it yourself. I don't have a problem with women with health issues doing this, but it just seems selfish otherwise. I have a friend who is using a surrogate because she doesn't want to deal with pregnancy or weight gain, and honestly I have lost some respect for her.
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05.22.13, 04:27 PM
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Not sure I would call it "normal", and I would not do it if I did not have health reasons to do it. But to each her own, I suppose.
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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I think if you can't handle the discomforts of pregnancy, you won't be able to handle a child
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05.22.13, 04:06 PM
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Perfectly normal. We all do it. (Come on. What a fake post!)
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05.22.13, 04:03 PM
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OK, it is not fake. Pregnancy sucks (and I had an uneventful pregnancy). Why is it so strange to want to avoid it?
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05.22.13, 04:06 PM
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make sure the surrogate doesn't decide to keep your baby. also will dh be willing to save some money and impregnate her the old fashioned way?
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05.22.13, 04:05 PM
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Are you serious? Lol, I want my child, not somebody else's ...
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05.22.13, 04:08 PM
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I used a surrogate for my third child for medical reasons and I would much rather have carried her in my own body. Trust me, having a surrogate isn't something one should do, unless it's for their or their baby's health. When third DD was born, I didn't feel the strong instantaneous bond that I felt with my first two DC with her. She's three now and now I love all my children equally, but with my first two, the love and bond was already there, because I'd already carried them and been taking care of them in a sense for nine months. Having the surrogate herself involved is very stressful as well. I was always worried about what she was eating, if she was taking her vitamins, or doing anything that could hurt my baby. She had a boyfriend who she fought a lot with and I went to her apartment one time and they were screaming at each other. Not the environment I wanted my unborn child in, but I really had no control over it at that point. Carry the baby yourself, it honestly makes everything so much easier.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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np: Thank you for this.
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05.22.13, 04:16 PM
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05.22.13, 04:27 PM
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and how do you know she wasn't drinking or doing drugs?
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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An acquaintance of mine used a surrogate, who was a mother with young DCs of her own trying to make extra $$ to support her family, and the surrogate died of complications related to the delivery.
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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Phomy
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05.22.13, 04:17 PM
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Weird as hell. If you can't be bothered to gestate your own kids, you don't sound like much of a mother. Poor dcs.
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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Adopt a child in need of a good home.
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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eh, don't listen to all these people. Being pregnancy is no walk in the park and if I could have done a surrogate for second baby, I would have.
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05.22.13, 04:23 PM
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So you should rent out someone else's womb? Do you care about the other woman at all?
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05.22.13, 04:26 PM
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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I'd NEVER vote for the Weiner.
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05.22.13, 03:54 PM
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Henry Francis for Mayor!!
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05.22.13, 03:55 PM
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haha. He is good looking. I wonder if the actor who plays him is gay. If so he should run and then he can beat Christine Quinn. He's sort of got an Anderson Cooper thing going on and everyone loves him.
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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I prefer Jack Donaghy!
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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im voting for the guliani guy - dont even know his name. the supermarket guy is a loose cannon
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05.22.13, 04:02 PM
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+1, i think his name is lohta.
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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I'm ashamed to admit it, but I will probably vote for him. He was a weiner, for sure, but I like what he did for his constituents.
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05.22.13, 04:09 PM
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I love how Weiner keeps saying he'll never stop fighting for those of us in the Middle Class, etc. That dude folded like a cheap card table 'cause of pictures of him in his tighty whities. Give me DeBlasio!
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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This is great news for Liu and Thompson. For the others, not so much.
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05.22.13, 04:11 PM
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I think Liu has a chance.
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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Nope. What counter did you ask, maybe that's their policy. I've gone to Saks many times before and they do it for free. Of course they always assume you'll purchase something but that is the whole point, no? BG also does it. You just call the counter and make an appointment. last time it was for a party and I went to the Dolce and Gabanna counter with an actual beauty ad from their cosmetics line ripped out of a magazine. I bought a lipgloss and tipped the women who did it $20 and all was well.
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05.22.13, 04:05 PM
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Thanks. It was Laura Mercier counter. Maybe other makeup lines at Bloomies don't charge. I don't usually use this line and thought I'd try it but was surprised at the charge.
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05.22.13, 04:11 PM
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It’s probably like every good free service. People abuse it and they start to charge. Ever been there on a Saturday evening? It’s full of young girls getting their make up done for their evening out and then not buying anything or making tiny purchases.
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05.22.13, 04:08 PM
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I would honestly prefer to pay a flat fee than be pressed to buy products. On the few occasions I had it done at dept stores, they put so many products on my face, just to offer a broad range of products for me to buy. They used 2 pencils and 4 different boxes of eye-shadows on my eyes.
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05.22.13, 04:09 PM
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The makeup artists generally are not supposed to charge except for special events where the charge is clearly stated in the PR materials. But some do because a) they feel the clientele can afford it or b) they are tired of women coming in to get a free makeup application and not buy anything. I understand their frustration, but it's not acceptable to charge when it's not company policy. If someone wants to charge you, ask for the cosmetics department manager to confirm that's the policy. Of course, that may make the application awkward if you do that, so I'd leave and call later to see if that's the policy. If they see you leaving, they may change their minds about the upfront charge.
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05.22.13, 04:24 PM
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At Bergdorf I've gotten makeup done at the Laura Mercier counter and there was no requirement to buy (although in both instances I did buy because the makeup artist worked wonders :))
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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05.22.13, 03:56 PM
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The education at the "non-TT" (a term which I loathe) is just as good as at the schools you mention. It is also about the entire experience. Believe me, no one (except on this board) sits around judging you if you want to Taft vs. Hotchkiss. Apply to a variety.
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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Meant "went to Taft.."
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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I have thought about this too. Unless dc had academic issues (and I see no reason in your post to believe this), I would think hard about moving from a more academic to a less academic environment (regardless of whether boarding or otherwise). On your list were basicallt TT NYC and boarding schools. You also said you were applying to "other coeds in the city" as back-ups. Therefore, I would think you'd also apply to a couple of boarding schools as back-ups. I suspect it's your slight adversity to boarding school that is making you not want to do that. Frankly, your dd is applying to over a dozen schools. If she and dh want to add a couple of boarding school back ups, that does make sense. With that said, I'm with you, I'd send dd to Exeter without hesitation, but I'm not sure that non-TT boarding school is the route I'd want for dc.
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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I feel the same way about NYC privates. Dd is in prek and honestly I will only send to private if she gets into one of the higher tier schools. No way am I spending 40k a year for a mediocre private. Dh went through NYC public school system and he is extremely successful so we have no issues with public options. I wonder how psd's feel when they hear this?
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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I worked at a non-TT boarding school. Not a chance in hell!
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05.22.13, 04:15 PM
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You have an amazing writing style :)
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05.22.13, 04:23 PM
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NP- How? Seems pretty average to me.
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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05.22.13, 03:56 PM
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Nope.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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Me either. Once yes, but two "not ready" -- nope
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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What if it just took the guy awhile and dating other people to realize that she was "the one"?
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05.22.13, 04:21 PM
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a dh: Another chance to be honest? What did he do wrong?
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05.22.13, 04:12 PM
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Another chance at the relationship
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05.22.13, 04:20 PM
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I would. He was being honest before presumably, maybe he's ready now.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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Yes but cautiously. Go on a date and take it from there.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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+1 It's better that he was honest in the past than stringing you along when his heart was elsewhere. To me that speaks well for him. Sometimes it takes a very long time to get over someone. 1.5 years really isn't that long.
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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05.22.13, 03:56 PM
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We are moving there at end of the school year - cant wait to live in a Tudor home with a backyard!
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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Sounds fantastic. Where do you live now?
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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well apparently they do consider it. aren't the schools great?
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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their loss - plenty of nice places to live in Queens
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05.22.13, 03:59 PM
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We're considering it.
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05.22.13, 04:03 PM
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FHG has everything going for it - absolutely gorgeous, top schools, dynamic community and 20 minute commute to Manhattan.
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05.22.13, 04:04 PM
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DH really wanted to move there, I didn't. It is really small, fewer than 100 homes.
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05.22.13, 03:58 PM
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Did you mean fewer than 1,000? There are well over 100 homes. There are over 100 attached houses on Burns Street alone.
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05.22.13, 04:14 PM
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i was thinking of the "real" FHG, i.e., detached homes. and to the above poster, it is absolutely not a 20 minute commute, once you are on the subway it is 30 minutes minimum, plus it's a haul getting to austin street.
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05.22.13, 04:10 PM
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I was really interested, it seems awesome. My born and raised NYer DH refused to even look because he refuses to move to Queens.
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05.22.13, 04:17 PM
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Living in queens is like living in New Jersey.
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05.22.13, 04:25 PM
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05.22.13, 03:38 PM
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A staples card/michaels card so I can buy school supplies for next year, a case of wine, something related to a hobby of mine ( with a little research you can easily find this out), a pretty plant for the classroom.
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05.22.13, 03:42 PM
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op: I would love to do a case of wine but feel weird giving this to an educator. My hang up - I know.
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05.22.13, 03:44 PM
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Oh come on. We are people just like you. She isn't going to drink it in one night.
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05.22.13, 03:46 PM
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op: I know. Don't get me wrong - I hope she/he loves the wine. I do. Just feel weird lugging a case of wine into school. But love the idea.
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05.22.13, 03:48 PM
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I'd take a bottle of whiskey.
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05.22.13, 03:53 PM
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As an educator myself, I find it odd that you'd expect an entire case of wine.
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05.22.13, 03:48 PM
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Or a bottle, whatever. I don't expect anything, it was just an idea.
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05.22.13, 03:48 PM
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I just was thinking since it was from the entire class a bottle would be really small. Or a gift basket with one bottle. I'm just throwing out ideas. I had a parent in my class who was a sommelier who gave me this once and it was my favorite thing.
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05.22.13, 03:56 PM
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I'd like cards made by the kids with a little blurb telling me what their favorite time in class was. But, I'm sappy and lame like that.
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05.22.13, 03:50 PM
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You, I like.
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05.22.13, 03:46 PM
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1st year teacher? I think parents find these forced.
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05.22.13, 03:46 PM
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12th year teaching.
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05.22.13, 03:47 PM
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op: lol. You sound so lovely. We need more teachers like you!
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05.22.13, 03:55 PM
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We contribute to the class gift each year but I also take my kids to the 'paint your own pottey' place and they make a mug or something.
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05.22.13, 04:18 PM
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Cash - always the right way to go!
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05.22.13, 03:55 PM
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Do a gift card tree. Gift cards are the most appreciated because teachers need/want things too and their salaries are not huge - and the tree makes it more fun than just a plain old gift card. Have each kid bring in a card of their choice for whatever denomination they want (so some can do 5$ from Sbux and others can do $50+ if they would like). You google or pinterest fun ways to present it in a tree form. Maybe clip each card to the leaf of a plant or something.
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05.22.13, 04:24 PM
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05.22.13, 03:38 PM
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OP I am going to say something to him soon, but just in case that has no effect.
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05.22.13, 03:39 PM
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Noise-canceling headphones?
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05.22.13, 03:40 PM
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I would move. It's just a simple fact of city living. You could also try soundproofing one of your rooms but it always looks bad.
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05.22.13, 03:42 PM
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NP: Of course city living means having to put up with a certain amount of noise, but it also means that you have to be considerate of your neighbors. I agree with the poster below who suggested negotiating rehearsal times. Just as if you want complete silence, if you want to play your guitar at all hours, you should move to a house in the 'burbs.
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05.22.13, 03:48 PM
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Ask if you can work out rehearsal times. Daylight hours? Not after 8 pm? He may not realize you can hear him.
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05.22.13, 03:39 PM
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White noise machine.
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05.22.13, 03:41 PM
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Is he any good?
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05.22.13, 03:55 PM
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He's pretty good, but there's nothing more annoying than listening to someone banging out the same notes over and over.
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05.22.13, 03:51 PM
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Don't know how you can suggest this delicately, but he should be able to practice using earphones (assume it's an electric guitar since you can hear it).
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05.22.13, 04:06 PM
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Does he have thick carpeting with padding on the floor? Not sure, but maybe that would help drown out the noise.
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05.22.13, 04:03 PM
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OMG! You are me! We saved up to buy a nice home for our family only to find out we lived next to musicians who play all day long. They're not mean but this is their living so they just play all the time. Our money is locked into the apartment so we are stuck and miserable. Hope your situation is better.
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05.22.13, 04:07 PM
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05.22.13, 03:36 PM
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I think it is fine unless there are more than enough parents to cover it, IMO parents get touchy if a babysitter volunteers and they don't get a spot.
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05.22.13, 03:32 PM
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so much drama - that article was specific to guard duty or whatever its called. it was also saying too many families never show up and always send the nanny. occassionally sending the nanny is fine - just dont shirk all school obligations
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05.22.13, 03:40 PM
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I agree about the drama, but when I taught I had numerous parents complain that they wanted to volunteer and were told they was no room, but so and so's babysitter got to and WAAH it isn't FAIR.
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05.22.13, 03:44 PM
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np: I see that point; however if that kid never gets to have a caregiver attend - and the parents can't make it - then it's not really fair to the kid either.
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05.22.13, 03:52 PM
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I was thinking about bake sales and book fairs, a trip is different I my eyes. Parents will complain about that too.
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05.22.13, 03:57 PM
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That doesn't describe "involved" to me. Sorry. I'd say better not to send and find a way for parents to take time of here and there to participate.
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05.22.13, 03:38 PM
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I meant that the working parents were trying to be involved as they could. I know that some people will never think it's enough.
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05.22.13, 03:47 PM
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IMO, if the activity is mostly about the kids (e.g. attending Spring Fling or whatever), nanny takes her. If it's mostly about the parents (e.g. staffing a bake sale), it is weird to send a paid employee. Just skip it if you can't volunteer and donate more money to the PTA yourself. I do think there's nothing wrong with getting pre-packaged food for a bake sale, though.
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05.22.13, 03:33 PM
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Can either parent do ONE thing a year -- one bake sale, make phone calls, chaperone one trip, send in a non-perishable item for a food-event? I feel like that is reasonable and beyond that, not sure why a caregiver needs to help on top of that. BTW I work pt and live near my dd's school, I have been a class parent and done some time helping in the classroom. I would never dream of counting who is there, who isn't, etc.
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05.22.13, 03:34 PM
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I would say the latter. If you're generally involved, I think that it should be fine to have your nanny cover one or two things a year.
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05.22.13, 03:40 PM
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I'd say the school should be perfectly happy to have a pair of hand regardless of whose they are.
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05.22.13, 03:43 PM
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None of this stuff is really about the school needing extra pairs of hands
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05.22.13, 03:52 PM
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Yes, agreed.
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05.22.13, 04:15 PM
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Only if you have a smart babysitter. Some are useless and resentful.
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05.22.13, 03:48 PM
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I find they same in some mommies.
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05.22.13, 04:15 PM
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True, but at least the other mommies don't complain to the teachers about it.
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05.22.13, 04:17 PM
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Don't send a caregiver unless you're in a severely underinvolved school. And FWIW, we both WOH, and parent-teacher conferences come with the territory and don't really signal involvement. If you want to be seen as involved (totally up to you-not necessary, in my book), you will need to do more, yourselves.
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05.22.13, 03:41 PM
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Valid point. I meant that the parents were generally involved with their children - not that they would be considered involved in the school compared with others. At my kids' school, I don't think there's one f/t WOH parent who I would say would be considered "involved" in comparison with other parents. That's ok - it comes with the territory. There are only so many hours in the day.
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05.22.13, 03:50 PM
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Sending kids with nanny to School Sing tonight unless washing machine repairman arrives before 5 on a 2-6PM repair slot. Sometimes life just sucks and you have to go with it.
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05.22.13, 03:51 PM
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In our current school we do every event that is on a weekend (e.g. Spring Fair, Book Fair) and usually volunteer for a planning role rather than just a staffing role. For school day events, we just sit out.
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05.22.13, 03:52 PM
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