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[ - ] job interview a week ago. have not heard any feedback. bad sign? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:44 PM Flag
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Who knows. My dh got a job three months later once and he had just accepted a position. They wanted to make an offer but who could trust such flakes? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:38 PM Flag
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email and follow up! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:53 PM Flag
[ - ] Nothing against SAHMs but for women who say it does not pay to work since it would not cover nanny/daycare (not 50yrs and older who just can't get back in workforce,) what were you thinking in college? How did you know that you would meet Mr Right who would be able to support you without working? Were you ever nervous that you wouldn't or that divorce would leave you in a bad position. Just curious. 43 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:32 PM Flag
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I got a degree that enabled me to get a well paid job. Then i married and kept my job until DD was born. If i thought DH income was insecure i would have stayed working but since his income was secure i quit. Marrying the right man gives you options [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:34 PM Flag
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op: Exactly my point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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This type of answer makes me want to beat something. The right man is someone who loves and respects you and supports your decision. It has nothing to do with money. Money comes and goes and if it goes, you need to be able to support yourself. Money gives you options but taking yourself out of the workforce binds you with golden handcuffs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:30 PM Flag
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NP: Since you feel so strongly about this, I want to know what your situation is. Are you male or female? If female? Are you WOHM/SAHM/WAHM? How old are you and how old are your DCs? Are you married? What city do you live in? Are you an American? What profession are you in? If you can't answer all of these questions, then please, STFU! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:48 PM Flag
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I will answer. WOHM, 1 DC (3), trying for second. American, although lived abroad for a significant time. I have lived on both the East/West coast in major cities (NYC included). My husband can afford for me to stay home but that doesn't make him the "right man". The fact that he loves me and care about me is what is important. Not the ability for me to sit on my ass starting at 30...Happy... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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No. answer the rest of the questions. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:54 PM Flag
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+10000. There are never any guarantees, but my mother sat me down when I was a teenager and gave me a very serious talk. She told me early on to be as good of a student as possible to go to the best college possible where I could meet the best quality of husband possible. NOT that there are not great guys anywhere - but it's all about improving your odds. At any Ivy or similar school everyone is there for something special. Everyone. She told me to get an education so that I could support myself if things didn't work out, and I did. She also told me that the biggest mistake young women make is basing their decision of a husband on hormones, sex and how cute a guy was. She said most women overlook the very best husbands this way and she told me not to pursue the hot guys that every girl wanted, but the guy who was everyone's good friend, who worked hard and didn't party his brains out, who respected the family he came from and who no one had a bad word to say about. I married the most respectable, stable guy I could find who shared my belief system. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:52 PM Flag
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op: My mother told me the same. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
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np. my mom told me this, too! Beware of the hot guys! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:55 PM Flag
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I love your mom. I wish my mom had taught me the same thing. Instead i married the cute artistic guy and am really struggling financially [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:56 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:56 PM Flag
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what do you mean about 50 and can't get back in workforce? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:25 PM Flag
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op: I meant no offence to all 50 yr olds getting back in after a reasonable amount of time off but I have a few friends who became SAHMs directly after college so with nothing on their resume ever even at 40 it is extremely hard. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
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a lot of my 50 year old + friends (female and male) are being laid off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:50 PM Flag
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I am 44 and could never get this job at my age except that I started 15 yrs ago. There is a ton of ageism out there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:56 PM Flag
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I made it a priority to meet a guy in college who had the ambition and motivation to be successful and who shared my views on a traditional family and who wanted to have a wife who would later be a full-time mother. If he ever wavered from that I wouldn't have married him. In the meantime I continued my education through grad school, as did DH. After we married we waited to get pregnant until he could comfortably support me staying home. I worked until I was 9 months pregnant and then gave notice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:38 PM Flag
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Such a gold digger way of thinking. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:38 PM Flag
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Many of us worked for at least a decade in our fields before SAHM. At least I did. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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op: So this does not apply to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:42 PM Flag
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Np. Who gets married right after graduation? You have to have done something! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
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I have the exact same thought. I went to school with a number of women who were smarter than me, more ambitious and more driven and more capable than me, who went to better schools and got into better careers than mine who, at age 32 married a finance guy five years older than them, got pregnant, and immediately stopped working. That confuses me to no end - they clearly didn't just lose their ambition all of a sudden. Which makes me wonder - did they have this in mind all along? Did they always know that they were going to find some guy to support them when they got sick of living the single girl lifestyle? They all made enough money to support child care on their own with a bunch to spare, and many of them had the kinds of jobs like PR or marketing that you can do as a part time or flex time position. So confusing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:41 PM Flag
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Do you have children? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:42 PM Flag
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Yes, two. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
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It is confusing. But it's very hard to be a woman and to want a career but to also want to protect and care for your offspring the best way you know how. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:44 PM Flag
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Protect is pushing it. We don't live in the wilderness and daycare and nannies tend to be very safe. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:49 PM Flag
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op: Less confusing than people who major in Art History and just assume they are going to get married and be supported. One of my good friends did this and for whatever reason is not married and really struggles to support herself. I'm sure she would have gone for a well paying career if she had known she was not getting married. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:47 PM Flag
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Why can't you accept that you know some stupid lazy women? My female friends are doctors, lawyers, finance, accounting for the most part. I don't have many artsy friends. But I wouldn't mind having some, and I wouldn't judge their choices! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:38 PM Flag
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Artsy so does mean lazy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:54 PM Flag
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^^does not [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:55 PM Flag
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This is the best comment of the year. Manhattan is filled with cat ladies that got low paying jobs and just assumed Prince Charming would come rescue them [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:51 PM Flag
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Maybe she's just interested in Art History? It's not like she would have studied engineering or gone to medical school. People struggle all the time with a wide range of undergraduate educations. On the flip side, there are decent-paying careers for Art History (and other liberal arts majors). My entire college co-hort had "useless" majors, and all of us are doing fine, with or without spouses. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:54 PM Flag
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Bullshit. Most single art history majors fail to make enough to live in Manhattan [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:56 PM Flag
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This has always confused me as well. My goal has always been to create and work to be self-reliant and independent, regardless of who I married. If your criteria for finding a man means he has to be able to support you I find that so different from what I or my friends have ever thought. Do your mothers instill this philosophy? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:52 PM Flag
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Those good careers come with long hours, if their DH also has long hours something has to give. It is no fun to be that family where neither parent gets home before bedtime during the week and one or both has to work on weekends. Finding something flexible is hard, easier to SAH for a while and figure out new options when ready to reenter the workforce. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:53 PM Flag
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I am a lawyer, I assumed I would make good money, have kids and keep working. Reality was a bit different, I worked in big law and hated it. Got out before I got pregnant in hope of finding better balance. Took an alternative option and it paid 60k. Not enough to cover costs when I had my second kid. I stayed home for a while after that because all the stress of working/childcare to net a loss didn't seem worth it. I am back to work now, had to start out at low pay again but it all worked out. It was never my intention to do any of this but the hours at a high paying job were not what I wanted when I had kids. Personal decision [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:31 PM Flag
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I hate to say it, but you sound like the kind of person who used the kids as your way to stop working because you didn't like your jobs that much. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:34 PM Flag
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Can you read? She got out before. Having said that, know a ton of women for whom this is the case. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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I loved my 60k job but it involved travel and irregular hours, DH also works long hours. Something had to give with 1 kid we juggled it and it was hard, with 2 factoring in the additional nanny costs we were way in the hole. 15 k in the hole. Not worth it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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bad trolling. horrible. np. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:51 PM Flag
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Many women are like that [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:51 PM Flag
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I didn't read it like that. It sounds like she actually understood that law was making her unhappy, quit and figured out what did make her happy. Money isn't everything and it isn't a reason to keep working at job that makes you unhappy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:53 PM Flag
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Look, it is always best to prepare for anything. The way to prepare for anything is to get on to a high paying career track and at the same time you are on the high paying track, marry a man with money and with ambition and who is also on a high paying track. If your husband makes real serious secure money you can choose to SAHM or to WOHM. If your husband does not you are forced to WOHM [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:53 PM Flag
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Feminism is all about freedom of choice. Marrying the right DH gives you that freedom [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] How important is it to get kindergarten applications in right away? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:27 PM Flag
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Pretty important. It shows interest, and many schools only have so many interview spots. They will lean towards apps that come in on the early side. At least that's what I've heard. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:19 PM Flag
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I would certainly get applications in quickly for schools that have closed K applications early in the past years. This includes Saint Ann's, Brooklyn Friends and Grace. Obviously Trinity as well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:19 PM Flag
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What would be the advantage of waiting? I mean why wouldn't you get them in promptly, what could you gain from waiting? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
[ - ] I think it works out well when both partners make close to the same amount of money or the man slightly more and neither make an absolute ton but are comfortable. That way neither really feels used or unappreciated and it benefits everyone for the couple to stay together. Neither gets alimony in a divorce and neither has so much money they can just trade out for a trophy wife/husband. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:26 PM Flag
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My wife makes three times what I make. It works for us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:35 PM Flag
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op: Do you pull more than your weight at home? Figure out school stuff, sports and activities, outfits, clothes shop, doc appointments, cook and run the house? If not many women or men would be resentful. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:40 PM Flag
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that's a stupid idea. If they both make a lot of money, they BOTH afford to trade out for a trophy husband/wife [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:54 PM Flag
[ - ] Would you trust a charming, sweet talker or am I doomed if I stay? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:21 PM Flag
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life isn't that binary. what is your real question? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:34 PM Flag
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No way. All the sweet talkers I know ended up having affairs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:25 PM Flag
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Nope [ Reply | More ]
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Doomed [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:31 PM Flag
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My exH was that; he turned out to be a manipulative narcissist. Hope your situation is different. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
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How painful for you. I've known men like that, too. Be aware, ladies.. be aware of the sweet talker.. watch how they treat people, their friends, their parents and siblings. watch and be careful [ Reply | More ]
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doomed. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] My dd left for college yesterday. She's an only child and I'm a granny mom. Any Questions? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:20 PM Flag
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Did you go with her or send her on her own? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:32 PM Flag
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I dropped her off yesterday. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:36 PM Flag
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How old are you? Do you work? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:21 PM Flag
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I just turned 63 and yes, I still work. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:21 PM Flag
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Time for retirement! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:35 PM Flag
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I feel as though I would disappear if I just stopped working. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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are you and dd close? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:39 PM Flag
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very close but she needs this time to find herself and I think dd and I do as well. It's a turning point, no doubt in my mind. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:28 PM Flag
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whats your plan for the next phase of your life? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:46 PM Flag
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i did this last week. My advice to you is to let your child initiate contact at first. Don't text back and forth. I haven't heard from my daughter for three days now--and I think this is a good thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:41 PM Flag
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sending you a hug. :) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:34 PM Flag
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How are you feeling? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:42 PM Flag
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I feel as though something has ended and I need to pull myself up by the bootstraps and look for a new adventure, to be honest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:35 PM Flag
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natural feelings. it's a moment for sure, OP. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:52 PM Flag
[ - ] I wrote yesterday about my cousins fighting with each other and how Thanksgiving is coming up and one of the brothers asked us to spend thanksgiving with them while knowing that the one sister won't be going up to his house. (Her daughter is working so she has to stay close to home.) She also has a pit bull.. my dc is afraid of said dog. Even though I'm closest with the sister who has the pit bull I'm thinking of accepting her brother's invitation. We all had TG there last year and my teenager loved it. It's either go there or go to the Berkshires, I guess. I hate that they're all fighting. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:19 PM Flag
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I don't go to houses with pit bulls. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:40 PM Flag
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I hear you. I don't want to hurt my beloved cousin but I think I may accept her brother's invite. She and her brother need to talk.. they haven't been speaking since her mother died. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:36 PM Flag
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You mean you're not going to stick by the daughter who cared for her parents and who took care of all the details of preparing the house for sale? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:29 PM Flag
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Apparently. Apparently she does not want to show her daughter to respect those who take care of elderly parents. I hope her DD remembers that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:41 PM Flag
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Do it! Not your problem. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:56 PM Flag
[ - ] Can you recommend a nice dinnerware set? Nothing flowery. Tia. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:18 PM Flag
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fine china or everyday? [ Reply | More ]
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Everyday but not corning [ Reply | More ]
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I ordered a set online but had to return. None of it was microwave safe which was really annoying. [ Reply | More ]
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What is your style? I hear you that you're not little victorian flowers.. do you like big bold graphics? So you like contemporary sameness? (plain, white) or do you like to wave your unique flag? [ Reply | More ]
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Plain [ Reply | More ]
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simon pearce [ Reply | More ]
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I have Wedgwood Nantucket Basket - white with textured rims. Very durable. Always on sale at Macy's or Char Crews. [ Reply | More ]
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We love Villeroy & Boch -- great designs, long lasting, sometimes go on sale at Bloomingdales [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] can anyone tell me about jersey city? (yes i read the nytimes this weekend). 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:15 PM Flag
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You again? [ Reply | More ]
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Parts of Jersey city are filled with violent teenage thug gangbangers who live in housing projects. Other parts are filled with upper middle class ivy educated families. It depends in the neighborhood [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] What are gangbangers? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Not PC [ Reply | More ]
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Men who sexually abuse women in porn films. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:41 PM Flag
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Yes. but no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:47 PM Flag
[ - ] Michael Jackson's birthday is in 2 days. How about an MJ tribute post? Anything..favorite song, favorite fashion (if you wore one glove, you know yourselves), favorite video... 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Annie are you ok? Annie are you ok? are you ok Annie? [ Reply | More ]
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Thriller [ Reply | More ]
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When that 'black or white' video came out ( the morphing faces ) it BLEW my 90s mind! It aired during prime time on a few different networks- god that was eons ago. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:16 PM Flag
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Hotel balcony Dangle Baby [ Reply | More ]
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Man in the mirror [ Reply | More ]
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Don't stop,till you get enough [ Reply | More ]
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How can you celebrate a child molestor [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
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+1000 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:40 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone live in Battery Park? How is are those apartments? What's it like? Considering buying there, but not sure about the neighborhood. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:07 PM Flag
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It's v different in north BPC vs south. North = new, more amenities, close to Tribeca, easy walk to PS89 , $$$. South = older, sometimes smaller buildings (with exceptions), quieter, more neighborhoody/lots of long-time residents, v easy walk to BPC school. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:27 PM Flag
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The public schools in BPC are very safe. And the apartments are much less expensive than tribeca or soho [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:28 PM Flag
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Other inexpensive parts of Manhattan have violent children in the schools. Not BPC. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/boy-forced-perform-oral-sex-male-classmates-article-1.1359299 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:29 PM Flag
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battery park is not really an inexpensive part of the city. The sales prices for condos/coops is lower because the carrying costs are raised by high maintenance and taxes due to the land lease. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:38 PM Flag
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Be very careful buying because of the land lease situation. Talk with a good lawyer. [ Reply | More ]
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This [ Reply | More ]
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The boats pulling out of the marinas have to sound their horns. (It was a law on the books, but no one did it until one kayaker made a big stink). Residents of BPC have been complaining about lack of sleep, etc. because of all the noise. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:47 PM Flag
[ - ] Hi, I'm 36 and been reading a bit about genetics but some things still unclear. My paternal grandfather was diagnosed with prostate cance in his late 60's and died of it at 83. My uncle, this beng my dad's brother died recently of prostate cancer, at only 63. My father died at 50 of aortic anneurism so we do not know whether he would have had prostate cancer although my mother told me he did have some prostate inflammation at some point. If I inherited the X chromosome from my father would I still have a chance of inheriting the BRCA gene (which also causes prostate cancer) although he seems to have gotten it on the Y chromosome from his father, a chromosome I would not be inheriting? Or does the BRCA gene transmit through different chromosomes and not the sex (x,y) chromosomes? My questions is do I inherit the brca from my father's father/paternal grandfather? I can't seem to find this answer anywhere. TIA 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 03:57 PM Flag
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Have the blood test done and you will know for sure. [ Reply | More ]
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I don't think my insurance will cover it though [ Reply | More ]
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BRCA mutations can be passed down through men. You should talk to a genetic counselor and find out if it's worth getting tested for the mutation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:12 PM Flag
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRCA_mutation; assumingyour GF had it (not all breast or prostate cancers linked to BRCA) 50% chance your dad got it; then if he had it, 50% you got it from him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:24 PM Flag
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wow. this is the exact right place to ask those questions. or maybe you should ask your doctor ...... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:35 PM Flag
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My doc appt is in November so I'll ask him next time. Till then, I have you:) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:43 PM Flag
[ - ] In the last month I have received 2 cold calls from alumni of my CUNY college who are now financial advisors and looking to talk to me through options. Let me tell you something. I know the kind of people who end up as financial advisors were the losers of the class who never had any interest in finance or internships or the industry in general. they partied their way through cuny on federal financial aid and when the music stopped got a low-paying FA position. and they want me to trust THEM with my $$?? LOL!!! byeee. rant over. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 03:55 PM Flag
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Cold calls like that are annoying no matter who they come from. I will cut off as a friend anyone who gives my contact info out to someone for this kind of thing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:03 PM Flag
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while this may be true of the people you know, not having an interest in finance when you're 20 is not really significant of anything. for that matter, partying through college might be a sign of immaturity but does not speak to who you "grow up" to be. so unless these folks are only a year or 2 out of school, i would give them some benefit of the doubt. that said, i will never understand why the cold call concept remains so central to new business development in fields like this. the best way to get a financial advisor is through referrals and interviewing several. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.27.14, 04:11 PM Flag
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