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05.22.13, 08:18 PM
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Hahahahahahaha - You slay me!
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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oh go rant in your private journal.
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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np: I think OP's tinfoil hat slipped off.
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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Much like Christianity is a religion of peace. The Crusades, the Holocaust...
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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The Holocaust wasn't Christians...
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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You're right. In my fury I banged that out too fast.
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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In other words, "La la la, I can't hear you point out the problems with radical Islam!"
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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i am sure this is what people said about christianity during the crusades.
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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The difference is that Christianity has evolved since then. Islam has not. Look at how it treats gays, women, and anyone who doesn't completely agree with it.
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05.22.13, 08:24 PM
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Actually, Christianity hasn't evolved. The people who call themselves Christians just don't care much anymore about being true to the more extreme aspects of their religion's doctrine.
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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bullshit, i do.
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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and of course no christian churches are hostile to gay people, or women.
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05.22.13, 08:32 PM
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Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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You're not allowed to criticize Muslims, and least of all Black Muslims. I can't wait to see how the Left handles this latest bit of misbehavior.
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Honey, you are a troll. People on the left tend to dislike gross generalizations made about any religion, race or creed. That said, let me be the first to say that all trolls are stupid and irritating.
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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Any belief that goes to the extreme turns into insanity. Religion, Politics, you name it. Hatred against a whole group of people is bigotry.
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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Well said
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05.22.13, 08:34 PM
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If I criticize A, and you counter with "B is also bad," how is that a coherent response?
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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05.22.13, 08:16 PM
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Industrious immigrants see a need and fill it. Tells me why all the taco places in my neighborhood are Chinese.
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05.22.13, 08:18 PM
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I love those taco places!
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05.22.13, 08:24 PM
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It's a niche and you need minimal liscencing and little English.
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05.22.13, 08:19 PM
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Lately some in my area are run by ladies from Nepal...and a few Mexican or S. American changing immigration patterns just as it used to be with delis.
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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why are diners owned by greeks? if you come to this country and your friend or cousin who is already here has a certain kind of business, its easier for you to do what they did than to start something completely unknown.
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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In my area people from Ethiopia and Eritrea own all the wig/hair extension/beauty supply shops.
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05.22.13, 08:32 PM
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and lot of afghans own fried chicken restaurants.
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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In my nabe in NYC it's chinese, not Korean.
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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05.22.13, 08:16 PM
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I think they are similar to southern Cotillions. It's a society thing, and I didn't think they were that big in NYC.
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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The debutante balls here are no big deal. I think they are mainly for new money these days.
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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OP: Really? Was reading a Vogue magazine and it had an article in it about Vera Wang's DD who just graduated from Chapin and was going to become a debutante as well. They talked about her dress and everything- they made it out to be a big deal as well.
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05.22.13, 08:20 PM
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But you can understand that Vera is not old money right?
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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She is old(ish) money- her parents were wealthy and her father was a diplomat or something like.
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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+1 She went to Chapin.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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These are not the markings of old money fyi
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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These people have no idea what old money is.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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In today's reality she is old considered old money and society
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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Old money and society are very different things. Didn't you know that?
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05.22.13, 08:38 PM
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OR: Exactly. Vera Wang = new money. Not that I'm dissing her -- I think she's great. But to old-school bluebloods, she is just a working immigrant.
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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Not accurate. You sound like a striver desperately trying to sound like you know what's what.
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05.22.13, 08:33 PM
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Lol. Vera probably has no idea she is such a plebe.
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05.22.13, 08:34 PM
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So true!
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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Members at the Raquet Club call the date of theses Deb Balls - opening day of hunting season!
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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it's not about the money. it used to be a really big deal. for some people it still is. for most, it isnt anymore
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05.22.13, 08:19 PM
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How much does it cost to participate?
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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sigh.
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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Girls usually do this after high school. Jr League Ball has been around for ages. I think the girl needs to be invited to participate.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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A ton of girls from Brearley, Chapin, and Spence participate.
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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Seems to still be a big deal...
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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News to me that Jr. League still has a ball. Don't see it mentioned anywhere on the website (I'm a member, fwiw).
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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The higher priced stuff is made by happy, healthy kids - only the lower priced stuff is made by the handicapped
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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lol, like the happy cows from organic v. factory farms?
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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Lol this.
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05.22.13, 08:34 PM
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there was an article in the Times earlier this week discussing sourcing of alternative manufacturers; it mentioned that even high-end retailers like Neiman Marcus source clothing in Bangladesh
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05.22.13, 08:20 PM
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Look for clothing made in Italy or the USA, which have better labor practices. Buy your clothing used, on eBay or at consignment shops. Or buy vintage. Or buy handmade on Etsy. Also check out this website: http://www.fairtradeusa.org/products-partners/apparel-linens
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05.22.13, 08:16 PM
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Thanks. I wish I had more time to browse consignment shops. Etsy is a toss-up, quality wise. I don't have a lot of money to spend on clothes so if I do spend the extra money, I want to make sure the quality is decent. Are there any mass-market brands that are good? Splendid is made in USA, but the quality has been bad (holes in all the tops I bought there last summer).
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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Yes. What's your question?
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Sorry, question is: what are some specific brands/websites where I can get clothing that were manufactured in a way that's respectful to the environment and the workers who made them? Price-wise, I can go up to, say, Boden prices, but more than that is a big stretch.
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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None, really. Our desire for cheap clothing currently far outweighs our concern for potential exploitation in developing countries. If you really are concerned, and want to DO something, then support a few groups that care, and are looking for change our perception - OUR perception, not change the corporates (they just give us what we want and are willing to pay for). That's the best you can do, and it's a lot. If everyone was on board with this, we could change it. But keep buying the clothes in the meantime; boycotting them will do nothing more than drive up your family budget.
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05.22.13, 08:24 PM
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Wow. this is eye-opening, and upsetting. Can you recommend any groups that care?
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05.22.13, 08:35 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Overdressed-Shockingly-High-Cheap-Fashion/dp/1591846544/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369254026&sr=8-1&keywords=overdressed+book This isn't the best-written book out there and basically the information could have been plugged into a long article, but if you'd like to educate yourself on the "cost" of cheap clothes shopping, here's your guide.
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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Thanks, I listened to her interview on NPR and I agree a book is too much. I actually like fashion and clothes, but don't have time to rummage through consignment stores or sew my own, like she touts in her book. I will look at the links pp posted above.
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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You can't tell by the price whether they are using humane manufacturing practices or not. Only by the label. Look for the good old "Made in the USA".
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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That said, you are safer with bigger names like H&M, Gap, etc because if they are much more likely to monitor their manufacturers for PR reasons. No one wants to be the next Nike in terms of another child labor sweatshop scandal.
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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ugh I HATE this. It's all a ploy for the MTA to get to hold onto any extra money left over, since you can't swipe $1, 75c etc.
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05.22.13, 08:08 PM
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I do a monthly card but my mom was visiting. I went and put five cents on her card. I remember the good old days when a bonus was a full ride. Not just 97% of one.
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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If you add $11.95 next time you re-fill your card it will put a balance of $15 on your Metrocard - exact price of 6 rides!
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05.22.13, 08:18 PM
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You can't do that from a machine, can you?
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05.22.13, 08:22 PM
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Yes using the refill your card option - here's where you can figure how much to add http://www.metrocardbonuscalculator.com/
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Yes, can do from a machine.
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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I read somewhere that the MTA make millions from this.
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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I believe it. I have six metro cards sitting at home with some random amounts on them.
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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You can combine them at the booth. If you can get an MTA employee to help you!
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05.22.13, 08:36 PM
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Yes it's annoying. However - you can add any amount of $$ to your pass to get the balance you need. If you have several of these "weird balance" Metrocards around the house you can bring to an agent and they will roll the value onto your current card so you can use. If your pass has expired with a balance, you have 2 years to transfer the balance to a new card.
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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I don't understand your problem. When you have 2.45 just add another $20 or whatever you do, and off you go. This "issue" has absolutely noting to do with "fair" ticket pricing.
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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It was for my mom who was only here for a short time. She needs rides. Not awkward balances.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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So why are you complaining about fairness? Your Mom can give you the card, and you can add the residual balance to your card, or she can top it up with a $ or whatever to get that last ride or two. Seems like you either don't understand the system, or just don't like it. Bth of which are fine, but neither have anything to do with your post ...
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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Definitely Nantucket
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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Where on the island?
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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sconset
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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West End!
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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Isn't it rhode island?
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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Where in Rhode Island? Little Compton?
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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Newport
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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Riverhead
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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Do you prefer Riverhead to Quogue?
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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Oops - was just told there was a Riverhead in New York, too - definitely not the one I meant!
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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Which Riverhead do you mean?
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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Walmart parking lot or BJ's?
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Target
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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The place to be seen is definitely at the Tanger Outlet. And maybe the Atlantis Aquarium.
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05.22.13, 08:36 PM
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What are you trying to escape?
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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The heat!
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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The plebs!
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05.22.13, 08:26 PM
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And the newbies...
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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And black people.
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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Newport
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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+1
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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Northwest Harbor in Maine is where the real--and really quiet--money is.
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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Northeast harbor, right?
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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Whoops! I was typing too fast--you are correct.
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05.22.13, 08:17 PM
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Blue Hill?
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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Marthas Vineyard, but only Edgartown.
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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I would have said MV, but NOT anywhere in town.
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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There are 6 towns on MV - all have old families. Oak Bluffs has old AA money. Each town has a different atmosphere but each has a great feel.
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05.22.13, 08:33 PM
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MV is not old money
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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Old MV is old New England money. It's just become a bit warped over the past 20 years with the influx of new capital.
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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Sorry, but it certainly can be. There's "old money" in every town - East Chop and Hart Haven in Oak Bluffs, West Chop in Vineyard Haven, parts of Edgartown and parts of all the up-island towns. MC areas in all too,which is why I love it.
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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Ronkonkoma
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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Fishers island, Parts of Maine, Nantucket
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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Fishers is amazing.
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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Which parts of Maine?
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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coastal
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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Northeast, Southeast H., kennebunk
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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Northeast harbor definitely
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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The hamptons
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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South or east
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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old money dear, not new :)
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05.22.13, 08:21 PM
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then you don't know much about the hamptons if you only associate it with new money.
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05.22.13, 08:18 PM
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Definitely a difficult proposition to defend. Hamptons has gone to the newly minted money--very few old money people there any more.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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THIS
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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It mostly is.
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Adirondacks, Maine, North shore of Boston
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Vague
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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I think of the Adirondacks as more of a fall place, but that may be just me.
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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Millbrook
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05.22.13, 08:20 PM
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Isn't there a lot of new money there too?
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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Do you prefer Millbrook to Washington?
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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I meant Millbrook to reference the whole area, but I do prefer Washington/having property vs the village
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05.22.13, 08:30 PM
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If you need to ask....?!
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05.22.13, 08:27 PM
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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It doesn't mean she isn't lame. She is the ultimate in golddigging.
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05.22.13, 08:06 PM
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do you feel that way about any non-royal that dates a royal?
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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I feel that way about anyone involved in the whole scene. It is so dumb.
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05.22.13, 08:17 PM
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np: How is she a gold digger? Her family's rich, just not aristocratic. I mean, they were together for years before they were married. They seem to be in love (but who really knows) and he has to have children, so they had to get married. Who knows, maybe the marriage was a big compromise for her ( media scrutiny; no career) but she did it because she loved him. You never know.
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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No her family isn't. Her mother grew up in welfare housing and they had a middle class mail order party planning business that only grew once KM got notoriety for dating Wills.
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05.22.13, 08:16 PM
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And how are you a feminist if you are attacking the young female in the group? Go pick on Prince Philip- he's a real a-hole
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05.22.13, 08:09 PM
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Yep and he killed Diana ;)
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05.22.13, 08:29 PM
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some people are just jerks.
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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She is very middle class, and this is why she is a good match for the monarchy. Her taste is very bourgeois and she clearly suffers from the same ED as his mother. She could have a career though- would be nice.
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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Why would you say that about an ED? She was obviously under a lot of stress from the wedding. I do not think she has an ED
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05.22.13, 08:23 PM
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Just as Diana, she keeps herself reed thin- but her young adult body shows her natural tendency.
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05.22.13, 08:24 PM
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Oh purleasee. Kate Middleton is not a WAG by any stretch.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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She sure can keep her tits out!
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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Had an mc at 6 weeks and got pregnant with a baby who is now 6 months old 2 cycles after my mc. You'll be fine. One mc is not a predictor of any more mcs.
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05.22.13, 08:24 PM
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Yes, I had an ectopic, almost lost my tube but didn't (had a d&c and was still
pg, then they figured out it was ectopic!). Shortly after that, had to have surgery to remove a fibroid that was blocking the tube and also to correct a septum. 3 months post surgery, got pg with db! There were times I thought I would never be able to have a baby, especially during all the surgeries, so I understand. Just keep having faith and trying to focus on the positive (I know it sounds cliche, sorry!). Sending good thoughts and prayers your way.
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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I had 2 m/c's and then my younger DC right after (now 6). It will work out for you!
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05.22.13, 08:31 PM
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Had one at 8 weeks, got pregnant 2 or 3 cycles later (its a couple of years ago, can't remember) with twins. Totally healthy, uneventful pregnancy.
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05.22.13, 08:32 PM
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05.22.13, 08:05 PM
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St. Regis
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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The Pierre
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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Four Seasons
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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Waldorf
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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Wherever the peasants with the flaming torches have the best access, so they can more conveniently guillotine you all.
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05.22.13, 08:08 PM
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lol!
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05.22.13, 08:06 PM
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Waldorf Astoria for sure.
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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+1
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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i would be most excited about attending an event at the pierre or the st regis. they are the nicest and also most expensive. the others are differing degrees of less nice/more run down. that being said, for a charity, my chief concern is NOT the niceness of the event. frankly, when it's too nice, i think the people organizing the event are doing it more for their own glory and less for the good of the charity (i.e. a ball in a medium room sends more money to the charity) so for a charity event, i'd pick something more reasonable like the waldorf or the plaza. just my two cents.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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05.22.13, 08:01 PM
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OMG!
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05.22.13, 08:03 PM
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meant to say BBC, news media is awful
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05.22.13, 08:04 PM
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Big black cock!
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05.22.13, 08:06 PM
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All I saw was an ad for the Liberace movie.
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05.22.13, 08:01 PM
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I'm going to watch - Liberace was fun!
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05.22.13, 08:04 PM
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I'm excited too.
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05.22.13, 08:07 PM
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ZZZZZZZZZZ
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05.22.13, 08:02 PM
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Not allowed to criticize blacks or muslims - move on, nothing to see here!
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05.22.13, 08:25 PM
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Well, he did cut a guy's head off while yelling Allah Akbar, so I think he may have lost the right to complain about his media image
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05.22.13, 08:15 PM
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05.22.13, 07:56 PM
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probably death. What old woman wants to give up the kind of attention they enjoy only to become completely ignored.
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05.22.13, 07:58 PM
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Wouldn't the Boards ask them to step down gently?
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05.22.13, 08:06 PM
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What Boards? These schools are not models of perfect governance.
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05.22.13, 08:10 PM
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What? Who would know this unless they have dc at all three? I think you are one of these ladies.
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05.22.13, 08:00 PM
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Individuals might know the answers to individual questions (e.g., Lydia will retire in three years), but not to all three.
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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Is this something you need to know?
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05.22.13, 08:01 PM
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It would be helpful, yes. It seems like these schools are about to go into transition periods and I'd like to understand them better. And yes, if my child doesn't get into one of these, then they'll stay home for another year.
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05.22.13, 08:12 PM
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And what about whatshername at STMPG. She's just as tenured/valuable/old
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05.22.13, 08:11 PM
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my vote is on lydia. but it's all fair game.
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05.22.13, 08:28 PM
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THEY SHOULD COORDINATE ;-)
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05.22.13, 08:35 PM
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05.22.13, 07:55 PM
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Fuckin' A - I'm with you!
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05.22.13, 07:50 PM
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Damn is not a swear word in my house.
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05.22.13, 07:52 PM
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DH and I are both English majors and wholeheartedly believe in the well-chosen curse word. Our kid curses like a sailor.
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05.22.13, 08:00 PM
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OP: I'm liking you all tonight. And now I am intrigued-favorite curse words?
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05.22.13, 08:01 PM
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motherf*cker, hands down
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05.22.13, 08:02 PM
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np: I'm actually kind of getting into the C-word these days. I kind of think women should own it, like gay people have co-opted "queer."
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05.22.13, 08:04 PM
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I believe the ingenious introduction of the verb "cunt punt" may have officially started that cultural movement ....
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05.22.13, 08:32 PM
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Not a curse word; called an obscenity. Look up the essential components of a curse.
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05.22.13, 08:08 PM
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OR: We just use all of the usual ones. But when DC was little, his favorite was "Fucking Dammit."
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05.22.13, 08:03 PM
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I'm with you, especially if he used it in the right context. I overheard my 4yo son stub his toe really bad and whisper the f word under his breath. I corrected him, but I'm not losing sleep over it.
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05.22.13, 07:56 PM
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Even if you don't think the actual word is a big deal you should use it as a lesson on watching what comes out of your mouth and knowing that every word isn't for every where. I wouldn't take the age route instead I would talk about words that might not be okay in a church/library/school but are okay when you are at home.
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05.22.13, 07:57 PM
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yes, time and place for everything. Making it a "grown up word" just gives it power.
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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THIS. ITA!!!!
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05.22.13, 08:13 PM
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I just don't think it is a big deal. I wouldn't let my kid walk around the house swearing, but I would far more upset about hitting or being a jerk.
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05.22.13, 08:14 PM
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