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[ - ] Idiot liberals wasted a human heart transplant on a thug who is now dead. 17-year-old Anthony Stokes of Decatur, Georgia was part of a liberal-provoked media storm after he was denied a heart transplant at age 15 for a history of medical non-compliance. Moronic liberal dullards whined about it, and a heart was wasted on this cretin, who died today after crashing a carjacked vehicle during a police chase - but not before striking an innocent pedestrian. If imbecilic liberals had not been such credulous fools, this violent thug would have died of heart failure and would have been unable to have harmed all of his crime victims. 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:30 AM Flag
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it is sort of amazing how wrong liberalism is. it takes some people a long time, even longer than a lifetime, to figure it out. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:32 AM Flag
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Liberals are not very introspective with regard to the failures of their ideology. Expect them to ignore this story or to dismiss it when it is raised. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:33 AM Flag
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Keep answering yourself. It's good entertainment. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:38 AM Flag
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And right on cue, the deflection begins. But let's get back to the core issue - a human heart was wisely denied to an unsuitable recipient by a transplant committee of qualified doctors and specialists. Instead of wisely deferring to the committee's judgment, liberals threw a hysterical and ignorance-soaked fit. The hospital buckled under the negative publicity, and wasted a viable human heart, of which there are a severe shortage available for transplant. Those are all uncontested facts. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:41 AM Flag
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shut up. i hope someday you will mature. head out ass, please. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:44 AM Flag
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I'll engage you on this briefly (but only briefly because I have to go to bed). The complaints about his not being placed on the transplant list were that the hospital shouldn't assume that because he had legal trouble, he was likely to be medically non-compliant. 2 years later, that heart was still beating strong. So they were correct that he was able to follow the medical regime. Both conservatives and liberals want transplant decisions to be made solely on medical criteria - not based on the "value" or worth of the recipient. On medical criteria, he should not have been denied the transplant. You want to argue that transplant teams should have the power to decide which lives are more deserving, at least make that argument honestly and openly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 04:53 AM Flag
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...and, crickets. 15 minutes and going but op has disappeared. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:10 AM Flag
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I'm arguing that transplant committees make those judgments BY IMPLICATION due to the fact that there aren't enough hears to go around. It's not a divisible judgment from all the other considerations, and the final recommendation originally made by the committee was the RIGHT decision - until dunderheaded liberals took it upon themselves to get a heart wasted by a violent miscreant. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:16 AM Flag
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Again, it depends if you think hour transplant committee should be valuing the potential recipients' worth against each other. That could be the protocol - we could have laws that say people with arrest records are at the bottom of the list - but it isn't and we don't. The original decision of the committee was not apparently correct from a medical point of view since he was compliant and the transplant was still successful two years on. And no, transplant committees don't have to make those judgments by implication. We can decide that we want them to make those judgments or that we want them to constrain themselves to considering only the likelihood of a success transplant. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:23 AM Flag
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^^^ and by the way, this has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative. Plenty of conservatives (especially conservative catholics) do not want doctors or medical teams deciding which lives are more worth saving than others. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:25 AM Flag
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Show me the conservative groups and conservative activists in 2013 who pushed to waste this particular heart on a criminal. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:31 AM Flag
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As a matter of policy those groups do not want doctors / hospitals deciding based on valuing different lives differently. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:40 AM Flag
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It's not "what I think," it's an inevitable emergent product of the process itself. You can't just tell a committee to consider X but not Y when they know both. The decision arises from X and Y even if it is phrased in terms of only X or only Y. This rhetorical dance is necessary to avoid provoking hypersensitive "civil rights groups" such as the ones which got the heart in this case wasted on a future carjacker, armed robber, and hit-and-runner. This is why liberals need to DEFER TO THE COMMITTEE rather than taking things into their own oafish hands and making a hash of things. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:30 AM Flag
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You're arguing yourself in circles to avoid saying that you think they ought to decide which individuals lives are out valuable. Of course they could consider only likelihood of medical success. You just don't think they should. Why hide from that? (anyway I have to go to sleep now, but you are muddled in your thinking and anger) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 04.01.15, 05:45 AM Flag
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