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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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I do. The last check I wrote was in 2012.
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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yes I still have checks and occasionally use them. Rarely, but i think it's a good thing to have on hand.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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I have one - use checks very infrequently, but sometimes it's the only way people will accept payment in my neck of the woods.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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+1. It's amazing how many entities out there either do not accept on line payment or make it too difficult to do so.
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05.23.13, 02:12 PM
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This. Most of the time I have no need for it. But a couple times a year or so something comes up where a check is clearly the easy way to go.
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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We still pay most bills by check.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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Op. Yes. This is how i know my parents do. We do everything by phone or internet. Didnt want to sound dumb, but i just thought they were obsolete nowadays.
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05.23.13, 02:07 PM
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np They are almost obsolete. But there are always the random situations where a check is the best way to pay. Doesn't happen a lot, but it happens.
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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How do you pay babysitters or other repair people who don't take cc?
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05.23.13, 02:11 PM
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Dont have babysitter. Pay daycare by card. Havent needed any repair recently but before we paid with a card as well. As for people who dont take cc havent run into one yet so i guess that a reason to get a checkbook.
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05.23.13, 02:09 PM
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Need checks because landlord requires checks - does not allow alternate payment options - if not for this would not bother with them at all
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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Same here, but I think we'd still keep a checkbook around regardless. Once in a blue moon, it's handy.
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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No checks - purchases are deducted from my commissary account.
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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I have a checkbook that I use maybe 2-3 times a year. It's helpful for certain situations. Not something you'll use much, but worth having.
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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i do- every now and then- we need to use them...like paying contractors to get odd jobs done- etc
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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Yes
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05.23.13, 02:08 PM
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I write checks every few weeks... for my kids' daycare, for our rent, etc.
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05.23.13, 02:08 PM
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I pay my rent with a check every month. How are most people doing this?
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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I pay mine online.
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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Good question. I still use checks for rent, too.
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05.23.13, 02:13 PM
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Op. i have to go to the bank to get a check every month. Doesnt bother me but it might make sense to get a check book and write them out myself instead of the teller.
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05.23.13, 02:19 PM
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I use a money order.
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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We have to write them for kids activities (baseball team etc). Sometimes the people running them don't have PayPal etc. also write them for weddings and birthday gifts to nieces/nephews
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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I use checks for babysitters, not often, but about once a month. This way I don't have to worry about having enough cash.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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I write a "live check" for the mortgage every month - everything else gets paid online, but there is something about sending the mortgage check on paper that makes me feel more secure. They can't claim they didn't get it, or the bank can't screw up the money transfer because of a system problem, whatever.
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05.23.13, 02:11 PM
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I do. I pay all regular bills, or variable bills to regular vendors, electronically, yet I've still written about 40 checks already this year.
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05.23.13, 02:19 PM
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05.23.13, 01:57 PM
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I don't think this is something you can train them to do - some kids just take longer than others, it's physical.
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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Both DC? What does your ped say?
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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I'm going to ask at yearly checkup for DD5yo in August. I'm sure he'll tell me that DS3yo is normal, although he has actually been day-trained since he was 18mo (self-trained, even!) so I feel like he should be "over" the night wetting. Dunno what he will say about DD5yo.
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05.23.13, 02:08 PM
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just make sure to have them empty their bladder before they sleep-
having them pee 2 hr before bedtime is great- but then have them pee again right before putting them in bed- that sh do the trick..
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05.23.13, 02:08 PM
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I limit water 1 hr before bed. They always pee as the last thing before getting in bed.
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05.23.13, 02:05 PM
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hmm... in this case you might just have to wait it out- be patient- hang in there!
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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Our DC was wet in the morning until he was 5 or 6, if I remember; the ped said it was caused by a smaller bladder and it would stop. And he was right: one morning he just woke up dry. Who really cares if they wear pull-ups at night?
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05.23.13, 02:09 PM
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I'm sick of the wet stinky sheets and the expense and waste of diapers, that's why I care. They soak through the sheets they pee so much, even with a diaper insert. Both kids are about 40lb.
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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We start bedtime routine at 6. So dd knows after we get out of the bath no more liquids. We go to bed at seven and it works. Shes been wearing panties to bed for last week and no accidents. (its only been a week though so well see) but so far this has worked for me.
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05.23.13, 02:09 PM
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I know of several kids that are 5 and 6 yo that still wet the bed at night - they sleep very soundly and it happens. I would not worry about it as an issue - more worry about how to limit the laundry. Can you double up the diaper/pullup?
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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get a bed-sheet. they probably have small bladders and will grow out of it.
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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05.23.13, 01:55 PM
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Yellowstone, redwoods, glacier park
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05.23.13, 01:50 PM
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WAY too late to book accommodations for those places. People book more than a year in advance.
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05.23.13, 01:58 PM
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We didn't have a problem. Guess people cancel
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05.23.13, 01:55 PM
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You *might* find something at the very last minute, but it's tough. If you want to stay inside the park, it's very much a luck thing.
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05.23.13, 02:02 PM
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And you suggest?
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05.23.13, 01:55 PM
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Just read a book review of 100 Places That Can Change Your Child's Life. Great ideas about the benefits of traveling with children. About a third of the suggested places were in the US. Your children are the perfect age for a great travel experience.
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05.23.13, 02:07 PM
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05.23.13, 01:43 PM
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Depilatory cream from Sally Hansen
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05.23.13, 01:44 PM
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Norhing
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05.23.13, 01:46 PM
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Groooooss.
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05.23.13, 01:53 PM
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Sorry my crotch offends you :)
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05.23.13, 01:48 PM
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I'm not offended, I just find a hairy bush rather gross feeling.
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05.23.13, 01:55 PM
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Interesting I don't really feel my pubic hair
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05.23.13, 01:53 PM
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Huh. Anytime I get sweaty I feel like it turns automatically gross. I'm just not a fan. Fine if you are.
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05.23.13, 02:02 PM
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Do you shave your head?
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05.23.13, 01:58 PM
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No, because I like the hair on my head. It doesn't get gross the second I sweat. It doesn't pop awkwardly out of my bathing suit. If it did, I suppose I'd be fine with shaving it. Haha.
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05.23.13, 02:02 PM
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np This is a childish response, but I suppose I agree with the sentiment. Still, to each her own. Maybe some people aren't as crazy hairy to begin with.
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05.23.13, 01:54 PM
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And maybe some people aren't high maintenance groomers
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05.23.13, 01:51 PM
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Do you shave your legs? Because I fail to see how taking the hair off of your pubic area is any more high maintenance than that.
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05.23.13, 01:52 PM
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NP: you fail to see adding something else to the list is more maintenance or you just got your panties in a wad by bring called BM?
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05.23.13, 01:56 PM
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It takes an extra ten seconds. By your definition women with long legs are higher maintenance than short legged women because it takes more time.
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05.23.13, 02:05 PM
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Sorry I offended you. Groom on
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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How was I offended?
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05.23.13, 02:02 PM
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It wasn't *my* def. that's shy I said NP
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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Huh?
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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I think grooming a body part that people don't see is by def high maintenance
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05.23.13, 01:57 PM
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But they do see it when you wear a bathing suit. And my DH sees it. And I prefer the no hair look. It takes a whopping ten extra seconds out of my shower time. I can handle that.
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05.23.13, 02:05 PM
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Are people talking about just what shows on the swimsuit line? Or more than that?
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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Either. In my case I take it all off because I prefer it. But the question asks about trimming too so I assume that is included in the discussion.
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05.23.13, 02:17 PM
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Me neither.
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05.23.13, 01:54 PM
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I shave it all off. I just prefer not having the hair to deal with. That said, I know a lot of people have issues with razor burn if they shave (I've not had this problem), so you might prefer waxing and such.
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05.23.13, 01:52 PM
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I shave. Had issues with bumps at first, but over time that went away.
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05.23.13, 01:53 PM
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I'm growing mine out. After many, many years, I succumbed to the pressure of trimming it short and I hate the look of it. Going full bush again. How long does it take to grow out your hair down there?
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05.23.13, 01:54 PM
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Depends on you. And what pressure were you under? I can't imagine being "pressured" to trim pubic hair. Hahaha. Personally, I shave it all off, but I've never been "pressured" to do anything.
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05.23.13, 01:56 PM
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I don't get trimming it short. Either you are okay with the hair, or you prefer no hair. What's the point of trimming? I guess I can see why you'd trim around the bikini area...
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05.23.13, 01:57 PM
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Who exerted pressure on you about your pubic hair????
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05.23.13, 01:51 PM
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Usually I go natural but just got waxed for beach this weekend.
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05.23.13, 01:56 PM
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I prefer nothing, and I wax.
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05.23.13, 01:52 PM
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+1000
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05.23.13, 02:05 PM
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Shave here. Like someone else said the razor burn was only an issue the first couple of times I did it. Now I just shave that area when I shave my legs and it's all good.
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05.23.13, 01:59 PM
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It seems like Brazilian wax look has fallen out of fashion. I for one am relieved. It seemed kind of pedophiliac to me. Women have pubic hair.
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05.23.13, 01:57 PM
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This
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05.23.13, 01:59 PM
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Women also have leg hair and arm pit hair. Do you find it pedo if they remove it?
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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If their armpits and legs are sexual zones for those women, then yeah. Not sure how that would work exactly, but I bet you could do something interesting with a bent knee.
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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You don't think legs are sexual?
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05.23.13, 02:04 PM
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LOL. This! Duh, you shave your legs in part for sexual reasons.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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My dh doesn't care I shave legs for other omens judgement
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05.23.13, 02:07 PM
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Okay. Well my DH doesn't care what I do with my pubic hair. I shave it because I prefer it. how is this different?
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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I see how they are sexualized in the media, films, etc. I just personally don't see them that way.
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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Okay. How does this differ from pubic hair then? YOU see one as sexual and one as not. But maybe I take my hair off of my pubic area for non sexual reasons, just like you claim you do with your legs.
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05.23.13, 02:12 PM
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I don't shave my legs regularly, and when I do, it's like the poster above, because of other women's judgment, not for sexual reasons.
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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np If my DH is out of town for a week I don't even touch my legs. But I still shave my crotch because I don't like having hair there. Only shave my legs when DH is around. This was true in college with dates and such too. The notion that legs are not sexual is silly.
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05.23.13, 02:12 PM
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Like I wrote above, they aren't really for me but I get that they are culturally. I don't see male or female legs as sexy.
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05.23.13, 02:08 PM
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But what does that have to do with the past comments. How is shaving your legs not sexual but your pubic hair is? Isn't it about WHY you shave it? Why do you shave your legs?
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05.23.13, 02:13 PM
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See above. "I don't shave ..."
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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My dhsaid the same about shaved crotch - he didn't like it - said it was too much like ore pub girl for his tastes
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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But how does he feel about your legs?
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05.23.13, 02:11 PM
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He doesn't care. Happy to get laid doesn't care about hair (like most men )
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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Okay, so he has a different preference. I get why SOME might feel like it looks funny, but that doesn't mean it's a pedo thing if you like it. At least no more so than liking a girl to remove her leg or armpit hair which is VERy common.
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05.23.13, 02:12 PM
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shave all. easy, quick, free, not irritating in the least.
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05.23.13, 01:57 PM
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Curious do men shave it all off?
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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Some do. I would assume women do more often than men, though. Men also don't typically shave their legs or armpits, but I bet almost every woman here does that.
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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wax but just basic bikini, don't go all out. I need to do for swim season, but i'm jealous of the girls that don't!
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05.23.13, 02:12 PM
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What is this obsession with hair and its removal?
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05.23.13, 02:07 PM
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Where did you get the impression we were "obsessed"?
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05.23.13, 02:13 PM
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I shave it completely off in the summer. I live in Miami, so I'm in a swimsuit a lot. It's just easier.
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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shave everything. I'm half middle eastern so its not an option for me. I just feel fresher and like the smooth feeling of my skin after a shave
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05.23.13, 02:18 PM
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i'm full middle eastern and would never shave. Too much hair and grows back so quickly! I find waxing much better for our type :)
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05.23.13, 02:20 PM
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+1 (though I'm not middle eastern)
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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Laser it all
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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05.23.13, 01:29 PM
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here is the cycle: poor. get an education. get some money. realize money doesnt buy access on its face. try figure out how to fit in by asking about "old money". start to adopt old money habits. become established. kids are born into it. grandkids spend it. poor. repeat.
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05.23.13, 01:31 PM
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lol. My great great grandparents must have thought the same thing. They left only trust income to their children and grandchildren and all their capital to their great grandchildren (the only one was born nearly 20 years after they died).
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05.23.13, 01:30 PM
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Are you talking about strivers obsessed with old-money everything?
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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OP: money does buy a lot of access to a lot of things and whatever it doesn't buy, you can live without, it's not high school. The world elites are mainly new money, the billionaires are mainly new money. I am pretty certain they can buy their way into anything they want and if they somehow cannot, they make their own. For people with more modest wealth, who are new money, life is pretty nice anyway, obsessing about "not belonging" somewhere is just silly, enjoy your wealth and comforts and what it can buy for your kids' future.
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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Great fortunes are typically not wasted in one generation. This is what people tell themselves to feel better - that in a generation or two the wealthy people will be just like the rest again. Usually not the case. Maybe sometimes true for UMC, if parents don't raise their children well.
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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^^being born into a world of comforts. I get it, they are considered to be more demure and subdued in their wealth-display habits, but they have to be. It would be 1000x tackier for someone born into money to have ostentatious displays of wealth and outrageous behavior, than for someone who earned it.
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05.23.13, 01:35 PM
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It's just something that you cannot acquire, so therefore people can lord it over others. It's like tall people acting like tall is the only good thing in life, or athletic people, or good looking people. It's fun to torture others with what they don't and more importantly CAN'T have.
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05.23.13, 01:30 PM
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IDA. I think it is something new money people latch onto, but old money people are generally very secure and don't really think about. They often drive the beat up Volvos and Subarus, wear LL Bean clothing, etc. While they may appreciate nice things that are inherently nice, they often do not care about labels, social status, etc. because they never felt some itch to feel like they'd "arrived"
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05.23.13, 01:39 PM
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^this. old money wasps have nothing to prove. don't talk about what things cost. consider talk about money and social-climbing vulgar.
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05.23.13, 01:43 PM
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I think it's just something that is discussed here because it's one of the few places you will find ao group of people who even have the experience to discuss old vs. new money at all.
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05.23.13, 01:44 PM
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I don't think there is an obsession with it. There's just a lot of discussion of what is and isn't old money because a lot of people on here MIGHT fall into that category.
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05.23.13, 01:37 PM
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I seriously doubt that a lot of people on here might fall into that category! It's the internet. Anyone can be anything they want to be. If you're "old" money, I doubt you're wasting your time posting on an internet message board!
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05.23.13, 01:49 PM
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people who are old money aren't bringing it up on online bbs, I promise you. and they aren't asking the general public questions about how they behave.
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05.23.13, 01:50 PM
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What I meant was that a lot of people on here think they could potentially be in the old money group.
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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Are you nuts? If you are, you know it. You don't need to ask a bunch of poseurs whether you are or aren't.
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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Nevermind. You're not understanding my point at all.
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05.23.13, 02:06 PM
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I think it is curtain level of refinement that people with old money have that people "strive" for.
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05.23.13, 01:43 PM
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^ certain (sorry)
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I think it is more about a need to feel like you belong in this world and are just as important as anyone else and not even aabout $$$. Do you remember the line from the Curtis Sittenfeld book Prep where she realizes that instead of having a crush on a jock she actually is fascinated by him because she wants to be him? “The interest I felt in certain guys then confused me, because it wasn't romantic, but I wasn't sure what else it might be. But now I know: I wanted to take up people's time making jokes, to tease the dean in front of the entire school, to call him by a nickname. What I wanted was to be a cocky high-school boy, so fucking sure of my place in the world.”
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05.23.13, 01:48 PM
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this board is obsessed with social status, period. old vs new money is just one manifestation of the fixation on appearance and how posters are perceived. others include weight, brands of clothing and accessories, prestigious schools, kids' names...you name it, the women on UB will know exactly where it fits into the insane hierarchy they've created. the level of insecurity this has to reflect is pathetic.
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05.23.13, 01:49 PM
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05.23.13, 01:29 PM
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Ask the mom what girl is into or get des to ask what she wants
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05.23.13, 01:31 PM
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+1 same as any other kid
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05.23.13, 01:51 PM
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They're 10, of course it's more of a "friend" thing. WTF?
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05.23.13, 01:31 PM
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She posts all kinds of I love Ryan things in Instagram and has his name in hearts everywhere
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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Why does a ten year old have access to this?
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05.23.13, 01:43 PM
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Good question.
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05.23.13, 01:45 PM
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How do you usually decide what to buy as gift?
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05.23.13, 01:32 PM
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The same thing you would get any 10 yo. Not sure why the gf thing matters.
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05.23.13, 01:38 PM
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10yo's, boys or girls, all want cash or giftcards.
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05.23.13, 01:33 PM
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No they don't.
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05.23.13, 01:44 PM
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They what do they want?
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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If you ask them they tell you. Gift giving is not about handing cash to someone - especially a child. Not in my house anyway I don't attempt to speak for "all". I think parents are too lazy to put in the effort when they give money
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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You can't go wrong with giftcards.
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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what you would have gotten any of her classmates?
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05.23.13, 01:28 PM
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I have shorts on today
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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Shorts can look great, if worn correctly - inseam people! Inseam! Get it right
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05.23.13, 01:49 PM
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Do shorts ever look good if you have a belly you can't lose?
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05.23.13, 01:49 PM
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Yes, just make sure you get a short that's bit higher waisted and a top that hits right below your crotch - you avoid showing camel toe, bunching and the higher waist keeps everything in place. The inseam is the most important, even an inch makes a huge difference on some people.
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05.23.13, 01:59 PM
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What sorts of shorts are you wearing that result in camel toe?
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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I don't have camel toe, but I see it ALL the time - I think it's because do not wear the right size. However, shorts do tend to bunch in a weird way when you're running around, so I prefer the longer top.
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05.23.13, 02:10 PM
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Ones that don't fit.
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05.23.13, 02:05 PM
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That's kind of a problem with all pants, though, not short specific. It's not like shorts are supposed to be skin tight or something.
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05.23.13, 02:13 PM
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sorry?
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05.23.13, 01:58 PM
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Too many people pick the wrong length short!
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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The only time shorts bother me is in yoga class. Why people? Why?
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05.23.13, 01:53 PM
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Everyone be nice - I haven't worn shorts in, well, in a long time, but they used to be very comfortable, with a t-shirt and sandals.
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05.23.13, 01:52 PM
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WTH is wrong with shorts?
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05.23.13, 02:00 PM
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Huh? I live in FL and I'm thinking "I'd rather wear shorts than die of heatstroke"
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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This.
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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Yes, THIS! I WISH I didn't have to wear shorts. But a good 6 months a year here it's the ONLY decent option for running around with kids.
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05.23.13, 02:03 PM
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I honestly do not understand the hatred toward shorts. Who cares what other people wear?
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05.23.13, 02:04 PM
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Certainly not me. Live and let live.
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05.23.13, 02:09 PM
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I'll take shorts over camel-toe yoga pants any day.
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that's just silly. I started wearing shorts again last year after having dc and I can't believe I didn't wear them for so long! Skirts and dresses are not always easy when you're playing in the park. I love my shorts and I think i look great in them. I don't see the need for hate at all. What bothers you about them?
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Yes it would. I don't know why people have this sick insecure need to knock others down.
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05.23.13, 01:34 PM
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new here? but yeah, of course I agree with you.
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05.23.13, 01:51 PM
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Link to the post on childbirth classes?
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05.23.13, 01:37 PM
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Sing it, sister! We women are our own worst enemy.
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05.23.13, 01:45 PM
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I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly, but I have noticed that UBers very quickly personalize posts about childbirth. For example, there are statistically many unnecessary C-sections in the US. I think that would be an interesting thing to talk about, that a lot of women would be pissed that doctors take decisions out of our hands for non-medical reasons. In other words, I think that conversation could unite us, it could be about female solidarity, about us women supporting each other. But posters here assume you are saying THEIR C-section was unnecessary if you even bring it up. I have no idea if YOURS was necessary. Let's just say it was. We still have a huge problem in the US, in doctors' attitudes towards healthy, uncomplicated childbirths, and we can ask together that it be addressed.
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05.23.13, 01:51 PM
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I agree. I am the OP here, not new to UB. I posted a few days ago about childbirth classes.
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05.23.13, 02:02 PM
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OP - I posted a few days ago asking people where they took childbirth prep classes. I thought this is a pretty straight forward post. I got so many responses like "only idiots take classes" and when I tried to explain saying I was not out to question my doctor just be informed as to what my options are...boy people just either laughed, like "honey you will not even care" or "you think you read a couple of books and now you are an expert" it blew me away how many women could care less about what is happening to their body? regardless of choice about pain meds, I believe that all women we should support them, some epidural is wonderful, some birth centers are great and for yes some csection is the best option, why judge, why not support, birth is an experiece, amazing, scary, transformative, no matter which way you go. I just was floored by the responses,...so sad
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05.23.13, 01:19 PM
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Going to miss sports but more focus and funding on academics is preferred
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05.23.13, 01:27 PM
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Aren't there more cuts than sports? Wont all ECs be cut?
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05.23.13, 01:22 PM
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Not a Scarsdale mom, but grew up there, parents on school board and many village committees, and I'm stunned that the budget was defeated. The schools are at the core of the property values and the whole reason to live there, as far as I'm concerned, but then again, I chose to live in NYC and send DC to public here, rather than move back.
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I am not certain why this happened. The Board pressed forward with a "Wellness Center" and a bunch of other things that acted a lightning rod for people that wanted fiscal resonsiblity.
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05.23.13, 01:24 PM
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OR: I'm guessing that another reason it happened is due to voter turnout. It's never been heavy, but the "No's" motivated people to turn out. I was surprised to read about that Wellness Center. When I lived there, a small group would always try to get an indoor pool built at the High School, but the board felt it was an unnecessary addition. Is there going to be a revised budget and new vote?
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05.23.13, 01:35 PM
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It was very heavy turnout, both Yes and No voters.
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05.23.13, 01:30 PM
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Glad to hear that. Turn out was often abysmal when I was growing up. Will there be an attempt to pass a revised budget?
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05.23.13, 01:39 PM
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Right now all the Board is saying is that they did not do a good enough job selling the budget. What arrogance! High turnout, people are sending the elite a message and they do not want to hear it.
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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05.23.13, 01:19 PM
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Prostitute.
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05.23.13, 01:21 PM
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Neither on its face if a mature adult is selling services. But if there is poverty, pressure, underage issues or whatnot it's a different story.
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05.23.13, 01:16 PM
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05.23.13, 01:22 PM
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How often does this occur outside of poverty issues? Especially when it comes to prostitution, I would bet most are related to age and poverty. Surrogate parenting involves a wider range of candidates. Not always a money thing.
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05.23.13, 01:18 PM
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Huge numbers of nyu students on seeking arrange,ents. They aint poor
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05.23.13, 01:19 PM
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Eh. They still do it for the money. Not necessarily poor, but they do it for more spending money. And they are very young. Definitely exploitative.
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05.23.13, 01:30 PM
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I think prostitution is more commonly damaging to one's psyche. There are plenty of surrogate mother arrangements that are quite supportive.
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05.23.13, 01:22 PM
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This. Dh and i used two
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05.23.13, 01:18 PM
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Two Prostitutes or surrogates?
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05.23.13, 01:26 PM
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HAhahahaha, sorry this made me laugh
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05.23.13, 02:13 PM
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You don't think it damages someone's psyche to carry a baby then have to relinquish him/her?
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05.23.13, 01:35 PM
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I think depending on the situation there are some who very much know what they are taking on and want to do this for someone. Others probably struggle with it.
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05.23.13, 02:15 PM
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This. I was a surrogate for my sister, and it was not damaging in the least. All depends on the situation, like pp said.
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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Oh, please.
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05.23.13, 01:19 PM
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It so depends on the situation. IN general, I would guess that prostitution is more exploitative.
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05.23.13, 01:19 PM
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the same, but what's wrong with exploitation?
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05.23.13, 01:28 PM
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SAHM
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05.23.13, 01:36 PM
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How is that exploitation?
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05.23.13, 01:38 PM
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Shut up. (Signed, WOHM)
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05.23.13, 01:35 PM
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Assuming both are done as responsibly as possible, surrogacy is much more exploitative. You're taking over someone else's body for 9+ months, for your own selfish reasons. With prostitution, you're taking over someone else's body for only a night, for your own selfish reasons. If done responsibly, you can't even give her STD's. Pregnancy can be dangerous, and at the very least you're altering her body forever.
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05.23.13, 01:33 PM
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But if the surrogate makes an informed decision how is that exploitive?
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05.23.13, 01:38 PM
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It doesn't matter if the surrogate is informed, educated, has 5 PhDs, whatever. If you pay someone to carry a baby, at risk to her, you're taking advantage of an inequality. You are exploiting your economic advantage and her body. Paid surrogacy should be outlawed, it's uncivilized.
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05.23.13, 01:41 PM
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Then let's outlaw professional athletics. Athletes are just being exploited, right?
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05.23.13, 02:16 PM
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I don't have a problem with the banning of professional (financially compensated) sports. They don't positively impact society and they use human beings like race horses.
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05.23.13, 02:14 PM
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The length of time you "take over" is not what makes something exploitative. It's a matter of if the other person is in a reasonable position to deny your request vs. almost NEEDING to accept for monetary reasons.
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05.23.13, 01:45 PM
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I disagree. I think that exploitation (in this case and any case) is partially a function of the damage/inconvenience you do.
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05.23.13, 01:43 PM
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Well sure. But you can in theory have a surrogate situation where you do no damage.
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05.23.13, 02:01 PM
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In theory, yes. But I think with your average woman (again, assuming you the exploiter try to be responsible), the average sex act will do less longterm damage (physically and psychologically) than the average pregnancy. We all know that one woman who looks exactly the same after a PG, but isn't she the exception who confirms the rule?
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You need Gangnam Style
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So... white tops and metallic shorty shorts?
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05.23.13, 01:18 PM
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The MTA clearly underestimated the average size when they created those horrendous bucket seats.
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05.23.13, 01:17 PM
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I remember when I used to take the subway - thought of it now makes my skin crawl
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05.23.13, 01:23 PM
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go to Denmark. Look around. Are you 5'9" tall with straight blonde hair, slim athletic build, high cheekbones and perfect posture? Yes? Go to a store and buy 15,000 euros worth of clothes and ship it back to New York.
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05.23.13, 01:29 PM
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We do have great posture, but we're not all blond!
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You need to build a core wardrobe and all the elements should go together. 2 pants, 1 jean, 1 legging, 2 cardigans/sweaters, five tops, two dresses - that is my core wardrobe. Then I have all the other "stuff" - my core wardrobe is neutral and all the other things are either seasonal statement pieces in neutral or simple colored pieces. Also, I wear lots of statement jewelry. On a regular day, I wear leggings/jeans with a simple top and statement necklace and flats - it looks very put together and effortless.
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I think there is a Financier in Grand Central?
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yup. they'll definitely have them
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Macarons or macaroons?
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Yes, I'd go to Food Emporium for macaroons - love the coconut ones dipped in chocolate!
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05.23.13, 01:31 PM
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She's not confused. Macaroons are coconut dipped in chocolate. Macarons are the colorful French cookies with filling. They are entirely different. I work at a bakery. Trust me.
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There's a Financier near Rock Center too.
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05.23.13, 01:32 PM
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La Duree for macarons (but not inexpensive)
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Just sit on the edge and gently scootch back until the tush fits. Helps to say excuse me. In most cases, it's not the tush that's the problem, its the boys that need to open their legs wide. Can their thing really be that big??!!
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it's not the thing being in the way, they just don't do enough yoga to be able to put their legs together.
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I think the guys overestimate the size of their packages. What's up with guys sitting with their knees all spread out?
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