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[ - ] Dh ex’ wife was recently diagnosed with a curable cancer. Is it weird she called him to discuss? I am not jealous. Just curious if this is typical. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:59 AM Flag
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Any minor kids? Of course. At a minimum, she may need him to take kids more often, and kids may be upset. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Thoughts on the girls' names "Charlette" or "Charletta" (as variants of "Charlene")? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Are your aspirations for her a double-wide trailer and at least two missing teeth? Perfect! [ Reply | More ]
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Awful and awful. [ Reply | More ]
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Tramp stamp. Tattoo across chest that says "no ragrets [ Reply | More ]
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No. Charlotte is adorable though. You could Charla but just fyi it means a chat in spanish [ Reply | More ]
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Just no [ Reply | More ]
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Sharlitte [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Name poll boy: Chad or Travis 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Neither [ Reply | More ]
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Go for it. MAGA. [ Reply | More ]
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I actually am from a liberal beach town [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Alone with 3 kids tonight ages 10, 8 and (just turned) 4. We decided to order sushi. Toward the end of the meal (4 year old had finished 15 mins prior), 10yo reaches over and grabs 4yo’s cup of Apple juice (he was drinking water and wanted to try it) and drinks enough to only leave one last sip. Upon witnessing this, 4yo loses his sh**, grabs a container of Oj on the table and turns it upside down, OJ splashing down majestically. WWYD, moms? 26 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:20 AM Flag
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FWIW, I didn’t hit him [ Reply | More ]
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Why do you say "him"? Why do you let the 10YO get away with whatever he does? [ Reply | More ]
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10 yo should have known better, hard time of day for a 4 yo. I would have asked 4 yo to clean up, then remove him/her to room and early bedtime and some consequence for 10 yo. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:25 AM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:27 AM Flag
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I did go ape shit on 4 yo (because he ALWAYS does things like this when he’s angry- destroys property, hurt the dog, purposely spill things) and all the forms of patient parenting I’ve trief don’t make a difference [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:29 AM Flag
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Do you always let 10YO taunt him? Sounds to me that you did not apportion guilt fairly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:43 AM Flag
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No - i get on the big kids too, to not grab things from his hand, etc.. I did talk to the 10yo also, but need these OTT reactions from 4yo to STOP. He always takes it too far.., [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:45 AM Flag
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Sounds v normal for little one. Sounds like maybe you forget that stage now that other two are at a more reasonable age [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:49 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:49 AM Flag
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The 4 yr old is learning self control. The 10 yr old should be further along with self control. This is on the 10 yr old. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:49 AM Flag
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Or the mom. [ Reply | More ]
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At what point will you stop 10YO from picking on the little one? Rule should be don't take food from others. WTF is wrong with you. [ Reply | More ]
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This. Did you sit back and let the 10yo drink the 4yo's juice. Because he wanted to try it? You're excusing his nasty behavior. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:49 AM Flag
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Agreed. OP needs to look in the mirror for some of the problems here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:50 AM Flag
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Agreed, why did not you stop the 10YO when he grabbed someone else's drink? [ Reply | More ]
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This. Your older kid was mean. Who grabs someone else's drink? That's not ok. No wonder the little one lost it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:53 AM Flag
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This. What would happen at school if he grabbed someone's drink? But OP thinks it is OK. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 02:02 AM Flag
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WWYD? Clean it up, tell 4yo not acceptable behavior while secretly applauding his logic. Admonish 10yo strenuously for causing it. No hitting, ever. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:26 AM Flag
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I'd give 10 year old the look and then chuckle to myself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:27 AM Flag
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Tell the two to clean it up and walk away. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:36 AM Flag
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yep [ Reply | More ]
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Are you the one who left the 4 year old at home while the rest of the family went on vacation to London? [ Reply | More ]
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I am guessing that. She evidently does not like him. How sad. [ Reply | More ]
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That was such a weird thread. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:56 AM Flag
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Would you let 10YO stick his penis up 4YO, just to try it? When are you going to deal with bullying? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:58 AM Flag
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Make 4 year old go with you to store and use his own money to replace the orange juice he dumped 10 year old needs to write an apology to 4 year old for drinking his drink. You need to e plain to all the kids botto drink after other people. I think 10 year old should do 4 year olds chores for a day [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] DH here with advice for the women of UB- whatever you do, dont let your sons become "nice guys". 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Fake MRA troll. [ Reply | More ]
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They should be frat boy rapists.... [ Reply | More ]
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lol. Sure. You are a sad guy, aren't you? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:07 AM Flag
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Here's a question for you. Are you a "nice guy"? You sound somewhat unpleasant, so I'm guessing not? [ Reply | More ]
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why not? [ Reply | More ]
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And don't let them grow up to be cowboys. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Need to find a new facial place in NYC. Not too expensive please. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
New York City 08.16.18, 12:56 AM Flag
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Heyday [ Reply | More ]
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Mario Badesco [ Reply | More ]
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Get a face steamer on Amazon and DIY at your free time. Watch some YouTube videos and you'll be on your way in no time. [ Reply | More ]
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DD and I did masks at home tonight. $1.50 each at Dollar General, and we both are stunning now. [ Reply | More ]
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Oh yeah that is so easy. I'm going to put one on now. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Name ideas for a golden retriever? 28 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Luke, may be RIP [ Reply | More ]
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Pippin [ Reply | More ]
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Cliche [ Reply | More ]
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Our neighbor's was called Bananas. The kids named him. [ Reply | More ]
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Np: great name! [ Reply | More ]
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Jack [ Reply | More ]
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Lucy or Oliver [ Reply | More ]
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Rover. [ Reply | More ]
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Fido. [ Reply | More ]
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Rudy, Moose, pippi [ Reply | More ]
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Snow or Thunder [ Reply | More ]
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or Gumball [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] At a new job for about 6 months and my stress is through the roof. Any tips on how to manage it better? TIA! 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:47 AM Flag
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weed at 5pm [ Reply | More ]
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It's cute you think I get to leave work at 5. [ Reply | More ]
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“Oh, you hate your job? Why didn’t you say so? There’s a support group for that. It’s called EVERYBODY, and they meet at the bar.” –Drew Carey [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:57 AM Flag
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Giggling at the clueless of this post. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:59 AM Flag
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Sorry, cluelessness. [ Reply | More ]
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Giggling at yours. Maybe you meant cluelessness. [ Reply | More ]
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Oh whoops, I beat you to it! Only a red star for you honey. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:29 AM Flag
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Vodka at 8 am. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:06 AM Flag
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What are the stressors? It's different for everyone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:56 AM Flag
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Exercise [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:55 AM Flag
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Stop caring. Make a list of what you absolutely have to do and delegate the rest and hold those people accountable. [ Reply | More ]
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Btw - this is what men do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 02:00 AM Flag
[ - ] anyone who applied for FA for k-12 or k8 private, do they ask your occupation or college, so they can impute income for non-working spouse, or they only know from the regular application? asking for a SAHM physician who wants FA, not me. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 08.16.18, 12:37 AM Flag
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Tell your friend she'll get all the preferential treatment she needs for her situation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:47 AM Flag
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she didn't know what imputed meant. she was an ivy clinical professor. [ Reply | More ]
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I'm sure they'll value her SAH status. [ Reply | More ]
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They impute the same amount for all nonworking parents who don’t have a child under K age at home. [ Reply | More ]
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Or substantially similar situation. DF is the primary caregiver for her mother, who has Alzheimer's. Her DCs school doesn't impute any income to her. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:29 AM Flag
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Not true AT HM, they look at educational level -- but they may link all professional grads the same. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:34 AM Flag
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This. HM says 25 k for high school graduate. 60k fir college grad. More for professional degrees but they're not specific. [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] Do real estate prices drop in fall? Since the rush to get in certain school zones is over? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:28 AM Flag
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Yes, they typically do but even more so in the winter. A buyer also has greater negotiating power. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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Disagree. Fewer buyers, fewer sellers [ Reply | More ]
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but the sellers are desperate, divorce, foreclosure [ Reply | More ]
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Yeah, if you're still sitting after the feeding frenzy, adjustments are in order. [ Reply | More ]
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I was a desperate buyer when I got divorced. [ Reply | More ]
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Real estate volume is seasonal; prices are not- there are simply more choices in heavy seasons. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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Broker mom: I somewhat agree with this, although at certain price points sellers will hold firm in December to see what offers January/February bonus drop brings. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:06 AM Flag
[ - ] I posted about peeing while on the Road. You all mostly encouraged me. Today, I just grabbed a little Garbage bucket, went to the back of the car - took care of business - and kept on driving. Wow - this made my day. No more stress about finding a gas station; no more stress about will the Starbucks let me have the code; no more “holy sh!t, if I don’t go within 5 minutes, the catheter is coming”. I felt powerful and empowered. It’s anazing how something so stupid and simple can reduce stress and make my life amazing. I’m never going to worry again. Hugs. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:15 AM Flag
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hugs, i do it every week [ Reply | More ]
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Really? What are your bladder issues? How old are you? [ Reply | More ]
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lol [ Reply | More ]
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I keep a small bucket in my car for emergencies like this. [ Reply | More ]
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That sounds complicated. You could just wear a Depends and let it rip! [ Reply | More ]
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This sounds disgusting. I'd rather pee in a bucket. np. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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Believe it or not / I have a big job and I dress very professionally and would not want that diaper bulges [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:46 AM Flag
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You have anxiety problems. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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You have a medical condition and a disability. I'm 55 and had a c-section which caused incontinence. I can still wait until rest stops. Good luck with your disability. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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You’re being mean, right? I can’t exactly tell? Like you’re showing off you can hold your pee but I can’t? Do you have any idea what I might have been through - as you show off about your c section? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:45 AM Flag
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My post is simple. You have a disability. Hugs. [ Reply | More ]
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Ewwww [ Reply | More ]
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Does the bucket come with a cover? Or was it just sloshing around back there afterwards [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:23 AM Flag
[ - ] Heyday UB v. 2018 UB. People lament that it's not uber rich NYC insiders, but isn't some of that that NYC has changed? Many uber rich families in my NYC circle but they mostly live downtown or in Brooklyn, and are fairly down-to-earth, hands-on parents, happily send their kids to public or noncompetitive private, eat at local places, and would never buy a $15k jacket on principle. 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Part of it is that the new rich is recently not so rich but I do feel like UB has a huge Brooklyn contingent. [ Reply | More ]
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Everyone I know who grew up on UES and went to private lives in Brooklyn now. Some do send their kids to their old school uptown but most are in public at 8 or 29 [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:02 AM Flag
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Why do you think the move? [ Reply | More ]
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A lot of the formerly wealthy did not parlay their privilege into money in the current economy. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:28 AM Flag
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Old time UB-er here: that's one crew, but there's still plenty of uber rich with DC who do spend the $. I work at a school and have DC at a different school - it's old and new money alike. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 At trinity, from k to 8 it is mostly rich. the rich get counselled out and smart Asians come in at 9th grade [ Reply | More ]
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They take 9 years of full tuition and make the kids leave? Ouch. [ Reply | More ]
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UB has changed because Manhattan has changed. I went to Dalton and 60 percent of my classmates could not afford to send their own kids to Dalton. There has been a mass exodus to public schools, [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:10 AM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
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+1 [ Reply | More ]
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NP, to be fair, Dalton has more ghetto kids now. A free public scool like 234 has fewer ghetto kids. [ Reply | More ]
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Link? [ Reply | More ]
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Just visit 234 and talk to the moms at pickup time. You will see [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:11 AM Flag
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This is actually correct. How many URM's can or want to buy in these nabes. This is also why the suburbs aren't really diverse. When Real Estate prices dictate, less diversity. [ Reply | More ]
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UB changed- it is not nearly as much rich Manhattan or even Manhattan in general. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:30 AM Flag
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What makes someone uber rich? What income or net worth? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:34 AM Flag
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You know it when you see it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:42 AM Flag
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Eh. They are often under the radar. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:45 AM Flag
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Are you talking 5M assets and 1M income or something else? [ Reply | More ]
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Let's not have any illusions about the UES being rarefied old money. Case in point: the "TT" Trump kids, the original striver family. [ Reply | More ]
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And Ramona Singer!!! [ Reply | More ]
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I don't believe there are many uber rich families who happily send their kids to noncompetitive private schools. Maybe the kids aren't getting into competitive private schools - it's a crazy process - but if they're uber rich education is probably going to be important to them. [ Reply | More ]
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Being loud about being wealthy is very out right now. It's far too reminiscent of Trump and his I'll. And anonymous message boards have really jumped the shark. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:19 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone watching Wheel of Fortune? I really wanted this one to be Ritual Decapitation. that’s an event, right? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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Rats. Lively Celebration. Although, in some cultures a ritual decapitation could be followed immediately by a lively celebration. I just hope none of the guests wears white. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:01 AM Flag
[ - ] S/O it would not occur to me or my nanny for her to leave early once I get home from work. She gets them ready for bed then leaves. I either help and interact with the kids or chill and watch Netflix if long day and I need downtime. Flame away. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
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How much do you pay her. If you pay her to stay, then there is nothing wrong with this [ Reply | More ]
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She is paid for the hours she stays. Extra if I’m late. [ Reply | More ]
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I had one that always took off as soon as I came in the door regardless of what time it was. She didn't last long. [ Reply | More ]
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Aren’t your kids eager to soend time with you once you get home? [ Reply | More ]
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Nah. Stacy, used to her neglect and have disconnected emotionally from her. They consider the nanny their mother now. [ Reply | More ]
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Many children do. Mine said he wished the nanny were his mom, not me. Ouch. [ Reply | More ]
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Of Course! [ Reply | More ]
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[ - ] 1200 calorie diet mom, or anyone who is counting calories to lose weight: did you buy a kitchen scale? What are go-to meal ideas? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:38 PM Flag
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I just had a salad and put banana peppers on it because they have such a low number of calories it counts as zero. [ Reply | More ]
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Try the Lose It app. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:54 PM Flag
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thanks! I will look at it! I am doing my fitness pal now but I am not married to it! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:22 AM Flag
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I'm counting calories. I just estimate though, usually try to round up so that in actuality I am under my goal. I eat as many vegetables as I want, and I count them, so if I go over by 150 points because I ate a mountain of green beans and a tomato I don't worry. [ Reply | More ]
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Cottage cheese, Greek yogurt, eggs, arugula, spinach, mixed salad, Double burgers, chicken breast, high-fiber cereal, oatmeal [ Reply | More ]
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Also beans, legumes. As I speak, I am eating what I cooked yesterday 2 cups of pinto bean soup from scratch. Very basic ingredients onion, carrot ., Celery, olive oil, garlic, diced tomatoes and boil for a few hours. [ Reply | More ]
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I use my fitness pal [ Reply | More ]
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that sounds delicious! [ Reply | More ]
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I meant vegetable burgers not double burgers, Ha [ Reply | More ]
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I thought they were made of ground turkey! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:30 AM Flag
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Actually my husband makes a great chicken loaf. There are so many recipes out there. It is easy to count points or calories. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:33 AM Flag
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Also there are small ways that you can cheat and still eat outside. For example I love Mexican. I buy those soft tortillas in the package that are measurable. I make my own grill Chicken ( souvlaki is also a healthy grilled chicken it’s all white)and buy my own condiments. Sometimes I’ll buy from a Mexican restaurant grilled cactus which I really like but is a bit difficult to make. Quite often they have bean soups that are a bit more flavorful that you could use to fill corn tortillas. [ Reply | More ]
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*If it is all white [ Reply | More ]
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nopales. I love nopales! Thank you! [ Reply | More ]
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and I am going to get some soft corn tortillas. THANK YOU! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:55 AM Flag
[ - ] I don't get why so many people are all "What do SAHMs do after their kids go to college?!" That's called retirement. They do what any other retired person does. Travel, volunteer, move to Florida, join an active seniors retirement community and play tennis, etc. How is this any different from what a WOHM or someone without kids would behave during retirement? 96 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:30 PM Flag
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People who don't have kids act so confused as to what a stay at home parent would do after the kids go to college, but stay at home parents will most likely have grandkids throughout their elder retirement years, whereas there is no such things as grand-work-interns where the new interns at your old office that you have since retired from will come spend holidays with you and travel with you and spend time with you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:31 PM Flag
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Hey, I had a grand-little in my sorority, lol. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:55 AM Flag
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Ha! Love you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:28 AM Flag
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Unclench [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:32 PM Flag
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Asking a question does not imply clench. Unclench your mindset. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:33 PM Flag
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Your insecurities show. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:11 AM Flag
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Actually seeking to understand a different point of view is quite the opposite of insecurity. Your lack of education is showing. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:29 AM Flag
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And you use UB to become worldlier? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:05 AM Flag
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who is saying this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:33 PM Flag
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I see it on UB all the time when the topic of SAHM comes up. "But what's going to happen when your kids go to college? Then what!" Then I'll be like every other retired person. Take up new hobbies, spend more time on myself, travel, take advantage of those senior discounts, and do all the things retired people do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:34 PM Flag
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If a SAHM has kids at 30 and 32 then she's only 50 when she "retires", and that's way too young to retire. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:35 PM Flag
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Says who? Plenty of people retire at 50. Hell, plenty of people retire at 40! But having kids at 30 and 32 isn't the one size fits all doctrine. Many people have kids at 30, 33, and 36, and then would retire at 54. Or 30, 35, 40, and then retire at 58. Or 34, 38, 42, and then retire at 60. There are plenty of different outcomes. The expectation that women need some second career after their kids go to college ad they need to fret over being able to get back into the workforce is ridiculous. When the kids go to college, they retire. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:37 PM Flag
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And what is she has kids at 26 and 28. Retire at 46? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:38 PM Flag
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Sure. Or if she wants to go have a second career then that's fine too, but it will be a challenge. Just like it's also possible to go back to school at 60 and then have a second career. Harder at that point but possible. But most SAHMs with means just retire after their kids go to college. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:39 PM Flag
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Then why does the military force retirement around that age? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:43 PM Flag
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Military forces retirement at 50? Really? I thought there were lots of generals in their 50s or 60s. Maybe they just look older than they are due to the stressful nature of the job? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:48 PM Flag
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You are only allowed so many years between promotions. If you made O5 back in 2009 and are still an O5, you'll have a hard separation date in 2019. To make O6, either enough O6s have to retire, or we need to go to war and make new O6 spots. The higher up you go, the more this is true. That's why a branch may force separation when the service member is only 40, 50, 60, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:50 AM Flag
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If you won the lottery at 50 you would retire [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:52 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:02 AM Flag
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np Most people retire as soon as they have enough money to do so. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:52 PM Flag
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This. And some people win the life lottery by marrying well or being born with money. Or better yet, doing both. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:03 AM Flag
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Being a sahm is a hobby. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:08 AM Flag
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And what prompted this? Take it you are a SAHM? And btw do the math..if you have kids in early or even late 30s, it would be quite an early retirement when the kids go to college. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:34 PM Flag
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Not really. Kids at 32, 35, and 39 means retirement at 57. That's hardly "quite an early retirement", it's a few years short of average. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:40 PM Flag
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And women can have children until their mid forties, or even later with IVF which is more common, so plenty of women have kids at 40, 42, and 44. At which point their retirement would be at 62. Or later if their kids don't all move out at 18, which many don't. Lots of kids live at home during college or even grad school in order to save money. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:42 PM Flag
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ITA. Many SAHMs I know had kids in their late thirties and early forties. They retire around 60-65 once the kids leave home just like any retired person. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:43 PM Flag
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This. Even moms who have their kids all in their 30s can still be SAHMs until 65 instead of 57 if they have kids living at home during college which is not uncommon for people who live in cities. It would be stupid to pay for NYU dorms for your DC if you live in NYC already. Same for kids in commuting distance of USC who live in LA or commuting distance of BU who live in Boston, etc. And many kids live at home and go to local state schools for college. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:45 PM Flag
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SAHM is not a job if you have adult children. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:45 PM Flag
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The point isn't how much work and time is involved, the point is that when the kids move out of the house then that's when mom and dad can retire and downsize and move to Florida or whatnot. So the concept of retirement is no different for a SAHM since the same concepts apply to her that would apply to a WOHM or to people who don't have kids. Around 60-65, or more broadly speaking around 50-70, is retirement age when people change their lifestyles and often move somewhere new and change the course of their life for the final third act. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:47 PM Flag
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Sure but they've likely worked before becoming a SAHM. It's different to have a kid in your mid 20s and sit down for the rest of your life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:48 PM Flag
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So clearly you don't have kids. No one has kids and then sits down for the rest of their life. Where are you getting this crap? Are you an MRA troll? The idea that a SAHM could even sit for one day is laughable. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:57 PM Flag
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Don't be so literal. Always amazes me on this site. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:13 AM Flag
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Looking at my list of friends from college, I think the ones who did it right were the ones who got married around 25 right after grad school and then had kids between 25 and 35 and were lifetime SAHMs. Lower rates of special needs kids if the kids are born between 25 and 35 compared to born between 35 and 45. Plus then you can be a younger fun grandma in their fifties and 60s and get to know your grandkids well and be there for their graduations. My grandparents were already dead of old age when I was in elementary school, so I never got to know the special grandma-granddaughter relationship. Jealous of my friends who have relationships not only with grandparents but often with great-grandparents too. I really do think getting married in mid twenties and not waiting until 30s to have kids is the way to do it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:01 AM Flag
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Yes Lil [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:57 AM Flag
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You can't RETIRE if you don't have a job. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:45 PM Flag
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Being a SAHM is a job. It's classified under "job" on any government form or medical document or any other authority that classifies jobs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:49 PM Flag
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No it is not a job. A job implies monetary compensation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:58 PM Flag
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And if you are married as a SAHM then half of the marital income is yours, ergo "monetary compensation." And if you are divorced and getting child support while being a SAHM then that is also "monetary compensation." Your definition is falling apart, isn't it... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:02 AM Flag
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ZZZZZZZZ [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:09 AM Flag
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Lol. Not really. Being someone else's dependant is not a "job". I don't see why you want to pretend it is. Being a SAHM is a great choice. It's not a "job", though. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:09 AM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:14 AM Flag
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Sexist of you to assume every SAHM is dependent on her DH and doesn't have her own money or savings. Shame on you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:30 AM Flag
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Wow, you're very defensive! Why do you want the choice to be a SAHM to be defined as a "job" anyway? Why would you want that? It's a great choice, but it's not like having to go to work every day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:47 AM Flag
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dependent —SAHM who can spell [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:35 AM Flag
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Sad. I guess these little successes get you through the day. See, you think, I did have an education. Once. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:57 AM Flag
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And yet, here you are being a jerk and picking on people. Enjoying your success so much to be this happy and kind to others? Or a bit jealous and bitter? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:34 AM Flag
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You're the one on UB busy correcting other people's spelling. Happy and kind? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:43 AM Flag
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Um honey, it's not yours when he decides to change the direct deposit to an account with only his name on it. This is one of the stupidest comments I've ever read. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:15 AM Flag
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Are you really this stupid? That would be called siphoning marital assets and is illegal and a judge would order him to give it back. Anything the DH earns during marriage is legally half DW's money. Ergo, monetary compensation for her job. Want to try again with a different approach since you've lost this line of argument? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:31 AM Flag
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He doesn’t know how to change the direct deposit. I handle that. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:35 AM Flag
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Many jobs are paid in material and nonmaterial benefits instead of cash. SAHM is one of those jobs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:39 AM Flag
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SAHMs DO get cash. Half of their DH's cash is legally theirs. Is a DH tries to change the names on the accounts, the bank legally has to notify DW. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:39 AM Flag
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This. If a DH tried to do this and got caught he would lose majorly in a divorce and DW would get more than 50% of the money since judge would say DH was not negotiating fairly and was trying to skirt the system [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:40 AM Flag
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So Michael Bloomberg’s work as mayor of New York wasn’t a job? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:34 AM Flag
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This [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:37 AM Flag
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And I guess by her definition the nuns and priests who live at Jesuit boarding schools and universities and teach classes there in exchange for their boarding and food also aren't working? So teaching isn't a real job either then. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:38 AM Flag
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Your ego is trying to justify the wasteland that you call a brain. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:13 AM Flag
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Sahm is a hobby [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:10 AM Flag
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If it were I would be better at it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:11 AM Flag
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This. I wohm. I have children who attend school and do everything to stay home mother does in a shorter span of time. No I don’t need the money. No I am not jealous. Yes I am sending an excellent example for my children but especially my daughters. Our home gets cleaned, food gets cooked from scratch, homework gets done, children get bathed, and we spend quality time with the children. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:27 AM Flag
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My FIL's sister was a SAHM. Finally, he kids are all launched. Now her siblings expect her to take care of their mom, because they are still working. That's been the only drawback I've seen if you have a marriage that survives and you can afford it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:45 PM Flag
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My MIL is was a doctor before becoming a SAHM at 30 and then being a SAHM for the next 35 years. now she is the sole caregiver of her own mother who is in her nineties, not because MIL is the only one who doesn't have an outside the home job but because she's the only one alive due to her brother passing away. This is why it seems risky to only have 1 or 2 kids. If you live until your 90s which many women do, then it's not out of the question that one or two of your children will pre-decease you and die in their 60s. Plenty of people die in their 60s or are too ill from cancer or whatever else to be able to help out family. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:53 PM Flag
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So have kids for the purpose of being your nursemaid. Nice. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:54 PM Flag
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No, that's not what I said. I didn't say have them for that purpose. I am saying that it's one of the many millions of factors that go into deciding whether or not to have only 1 or 2 kids or to have 3 or 4 kids instead. 3 or 4 more more seems better for the family in the long run since people are bound to get ill or injured in life and having more family members to count on is better. And before someone harps on me that "not all siblings get along!", yes that's true but the odds of having a supportive sibling at higher if those siblings exist than if they don't even exist. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.15.18, 11:56 PM Flag
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Hi Lilly. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:24 AM Flag
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Np-This made me laugh. My sister-in-law completely believes this and that is why she had so many of them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:16 AM Flag
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If you only had one child to rear you likely have enough money left over to hire professionals to care for you in old age. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:31 AM Flag
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That's a big gamble. You may spend all that money on various health emergencies long before you die. Or other non-medical emergencies. Counting on being rich is not as good as counting on family to help one another. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:37 AM Flag
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Adult offspring are not legally obligated to look after broke parents in their old age. I would bet on money before I’d bet on some random DIL’s willingness to put my care in her monthly household budget. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:07 AM Flag
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Oh yeah. More unpaid labor. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:22 AM Flag
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I love how UB Sahm’s are sending their children to TT schools to ready them to snag a rich husband and become a stay at home mother for the rest of their life...and perpetuate the cycle. How sad would it be if those daughters all became stay at home mothers. What a waste of an education! Please spare me and don’t say by sending them to a TT school you are making them worldlier and they can SAHM if they want to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:19 AM Flag
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I always wonder this. Study hard so you can..... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:32 AM Flag
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So you can have a good education and understand the world around you so that you can navigate it in order to get what you want in life. Duh. For most women the ultimate goal is a good family life and plenty of time with their kids. I take it you went to state school and majored in marketing? And probably have never taken a classics or art history or philosophy or anthropology class in your life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:36 AM Flag
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Hey Lil, you're rambling again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:52 AM Flag
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Lilly’s tripling again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:31 AM Flag
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Spread your legs to the wealthiest guy you can reach for! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:01 AM Flag
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Also have babies, sahm, be prepared for potential divorce but are comforted that you are married with kids and can get a huge divorce settlement. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:03 AM Flag
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Put out [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:17 AM Flag
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How low class and uneducated you are to assume the point of an education is to make money. What an NOKD mindset. You clearly don't get it. The point of an education is to make you a better and more well rounded human being who is more capable of understanding the world around them and making smart choices and having many doors open to them. Marrying well is one of those many doors. Having the option to stay home and raise your own kids is another one of those many doors. More doors open up to you if you are more educated and better able to navigate the world, the economy, social classes, and culture at large. You clearly didn't have a good education, so these doors are closed to you. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:34 AM Flag
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I might agree with you, but I think if you were better educated, you wouldn't be so condescending - np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:50 AM Flag
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It's Lilly. She goes off on psychotic tangents. Best method is to ignore when she's manic. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:55 AM Flag
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Yep [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:56 AM Flag
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She’s an infantilized loser. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:44 AM Flag
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And have a nanny raise that child for you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:02 AM Flag
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Lilly. You are a trust funder. You don’t know jack about life. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:43 AM Flag
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Who says this is the case? Whatever. (public school mom) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:09 AM Flag
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Gee whiz, I'm in my 50s and not retiring any time soon. Sounds like the perfect excuse to freeload. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:31 AM Flag
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So retirement is freeloading now? Are you planning on working until, you die then? You better. Otherwise you're a freeloader! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:34 AM Flag
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You don't get it obviously. Your DH continues to work, apparently, as you "retire." LMAO. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 12:38 AM Flag
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np What if my DH is also retired? Is that okay? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:10 AM Flag
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Yawn. Stay on point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:32 AM Flag
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Bitter Betty is jealous yikes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:31 AM Flag
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Hey Lil, calm down, you need to have strong arguments as well as strong rebuttals. Name calling may work at school but it doesn't hold up in court. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:36 AM Flag
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:24 AM Flag
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Just enjoy doing what you want to do and who cares what anyone says? Anyone with stuff to say about this is just jealous. Enjoy and travel and live your life! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:30 AM Flag
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Omg you are FINE, sah if you like - or don't - no one cares, but this post stinks of insecurity and defensiveness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 08.16.18, 01:37 AM Flag
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